Pre Spring Position Reviews - Quarterback
by John Berkowitz on Feb 16, 2012 6:37 AM PST
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PrintWe have entered the time of year when no news is usually good news if you are running a college football program.
With that thought firmly in mind we are going to spend the next few weeks breaking down the status of the team on a position by position basis heading into spring football.
Quarterback appears to be a position of strength on the Washington roster even though back up Nick Montana has departed to attend a junior college in Southern California. There will still be talented depth behind Price this season but it will be very young and inexperienced talent.
Jr Keith Price is the undisputed leader of this football team. He is an artist/wizard who uses the entire football field as his canvas to create his unique type of magic. He went from being that unknown guy with the nice smile that was replacing Jake Locker to being a QB who will be in the national Heisman discussion over the next two seasons.
He isn't the biggest or strongest guy in the world but he is incredibly accurate for a guy who spends most of his time being chased around. He is really smart and he sees the field really well. He spreads the ball around getting all of his targets involved during the game.
The goal for Price this off season is to get healthy and get bigger. He could really use another 10-15 lbs of muscle on his frame between now and next fall. The knees didn't need surgery so he has a good chance of getting back to 100% this spring.
RS Derrick Brown enters spring as the uncontested backup now that Montana has transferred. He is a good looking prospect who opened up some eyes last season while working with the scout team. He has great size and is built like a middle linebacker so he should prove to be pretty durable.
Brown also has a strong arm and that strong arm coupled with the emergence of Keith Price were probably the main reasons that Nick Montana transferred. Brown wasn't recruited with a bunch of hoopla and fan fare but he is a real solid prospect who will compete to start when Price is down.
RS Thomas Vincent from Kings HS in North Seattle is a preferred walk-on who will see the field one way or another next fall. He is pretty valuable as a walk-on QB because there are only two QB's on scholarship this spring. He is a real good athlete and I expect that he will begin to earn time on special teams next season.
Highly touted true frosh Jeff Lindquist and Cyler Miles arrive this summer. Both of these guys were the MVP's of their national all star games. They are both pretty special and it is amazing that Washington was able to land both of these kids in the same year.
Both of these kids were Elite Eleven QB's and that usually is a pretty good harbinger of future success. It is real tough to say who I like better because both of these kids are real good fits for the Sark system.
- Jr Keith Price
- RS Derrick Brown
- RS Thomas Vincent
- Fr Jeff Lindquist
- Fr Cyler Miles
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I'm not very worried about our inexperienced depth at QB
There is not much we can do about it. Even if Nick stayed, it would be a concern. Nick Montana only played a little last season, so it’s not like he is very experienced. He knew the system better than the other QB’s on the depth chart but by how much? Montana just didn’t have Pac-12 talent, we all saw it. I was excited about him when he got recruited, I hope the best for him, but I just think our talent has gotten much better since Jake left to where we won’t feel the loss of Nick very much.
So would the plan be to red shirt both Miles and Lindquist this year?
Also, is anyone else worried about the effects of losing Polk on the passing game next year?
by JaaronGriffeyJr on Feb 16, 2012 8:22 AM PST reply actions
Of course a little bit
But we have some decent talent in Sankey, Callier and Cooper (if he can heal up), as well as as incoming freshmen Erich Wilson and FB Psalm Wooching. However, I think the biggest difference for these back will be the experience of the O-line. We should be just fine.
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by Randall Floyd on Feb 16, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
I liken this concern to the feeling we all had regarding "life after Jake"...
Keith Price pretty much destroyed any fears we had there…and then some. “If” we get the needed maturity at the O-line spots (and some good news healing wise) I have even less concern for the running game than I did at QB…Johri Fogerson should be back at somewhere near 6’1" 220,Dezden Petty is almost the exact size as Polk 5’11" 220,and if we can get Cooper and Co. all full speed ? the competition and talent will be very good for this offense…it will have dynamic depth with no one player taking too much of a beating and lot’s of change of pace options to Sark and Co. Also, I believe something happened we all have missed for years…the addition of the Ubertightend! Not only did ASJ bring another dimension to that side of the ball…he came with 2 twins in Hartvigson and Hudson…3X6’6" TE’s who can go up and get it gives the running game another gear…the “redzone” another shade of red.
I agree
Our tight end situation is really good, and we have a lot of talent and depth at RB we haven’t had in a while. I will miss CP1, just not as much as I thought I would.
by datboyeddiep on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
depth at RB remains to be seen
With Cooper & Fogerson being questionable coming back from their injuries, that leaves us just 2 experienced RB’s in Callier & Sankey. We don’t really know what we have in Petty or Wilson. And we don’t know how good Fogerson and Cooper will be if they are able to play again.
I’m really excited about what I saw from Sankey last year, and I have some hope Callier will show growth in his game without Polk getting 80% of the carries, but I think it’s premature to say that we have a lot of talent and depth at RB right now. We might, but there’s a lot of unknowns.
What can I do man? I'm a optimistic fan!
I have full faith in Sankey and Callier.
by datboyeddiep on Feb 16, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
TE is better
It won’t be 100% until we are five deep.
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by John Berkowitz on Feb 16, 2012 6:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not as worried about losing Polk as I feel I should be
Something about watching Bishop Sankey last season in the little time he got has me excited. He is really quick, like straight through the hole, no BS, and he has back end speed Polk never had. I’ll miss Polk running over defenders and powering through, but I feel like it is ok. And not to mention Jesse Callier, who I think is going to have a big year for us this season. I feel ok at RB, not worried.
One thing losing Polk does……. I can’t yell at Sark for not running him 30 times a game anymore.
by datboyeddiep on Feb 16, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Losing Polk
will hurt us the most running between the tackles. We have pretty good edge speed with Sankey and Callier and Cooper (crosses fingers). Supposedly Callier can be effective running between the tackles, but it remains to be seen if he can pick up all the hard-fought yards that Polk did. He will definitely be missed in that regard.
The reason I’m am not particularly worried about it is the reemergence of our TE position combined with Price’s accuracy. In today’s game, a pass over the middle to a 6’6" TE achieves the same end as a 5 yard run. It forces the defense to leave guys in the box, freeing up the outside runs and longer passing routes.
To that end
I guess my biggest concern is Price’s height. Those little flips over the line are a lot riskier when you can’t see clearly over the line. Having said that, Price has pretty good vision and touch on his passes. I’m confident in his ability to arc it in there with the best of them.
We know Callier and Sankey can play
We’ve seen many examples of this. But the real question that needs answered is if they can take the constant pounding when their carries increase. I foresee the early play calling to be pass oriented, until the new studs find their grove.
All I saw was purple
I would assume
That they will both try to redshirt. I think the only way that changes is if Price misses significant time. I believe if its just one game the will use Brown. And even if Price misses multiple games, the coaching staff my decide Brown is a better option anyway
Polk
I am not concerned that much. Every year every college team loses great players. Is Sankey going to be Polk? no but he is a very good back as well. Plus i think our OL and TE’s will be better. Our passing game will be good as well. all that will cover up the loss of polk
The next 5 years at QB is set
This list of very talented and young QB’s puts a very big smile on my face!
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About Miles and Lindquist
I’m interested to see how it works out. I want both to play for the Huskies!
That battle for playing time
is going to be amazing to see, and I honestly think it will make both of them better players in the end (even if they don’t both stay Huskies).
Just because
I have been looking for a place to use this gif because I liked the camera angle. I want to see a lot of this next year. Get it into the hands of ASJ.
by bigtrain21 on Feb 16, 2012 7:51 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
QB Depth
Damn – some good comments on this topic. Wished that I had logged on to it sooner.
I am a bit concerned about Price’s durability, and especially so since we need to replace the primary running back and the left tackle. Polk did his job keeping blitzers off Price’s back. And Price’s blind side was handled pretty well by Kelemete. It will take the new replacements some snaps to get up to speed with those assignments, and matching up to LSU early in the season will be no picnic. As far as protecting him in the pocket, it is my opinion that the players moving on were better at it than whoever will be starting as their replacements at the beginning of next season. Price will have to be pretty nimble on his feet at the beginning.
The plan is for Price to put on some weight and muscle to better take those big hits, but that begs the question of why he hasn’t been able to do that yet with 3 years already now into the program. Maybe his body frame and metabolism can’t handle it. He doesn’t have a lot of time between now and Spring Practice, and then the short period until fall camp starts means that gaining those extra 15 pounds is a real aggressive objective.
Derrick Brown better be ready to play as I believe he will get his opportunities sooner rather than later. I’ll be disappointed if Brown does not get into both the San Diego State and Portland State games, as I am sure he will need those (game experience) snaps to bolster his confidence for when Sark really needs him and has no other option but to have him play. I would prefer not to see a replay of last seasons Ore. State game.
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