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Signing Day Ceremony thoughts

Just a few quick observations from the Signing Day Ceremony in Hec Ed earlier tonight.

  • These guys work their asses off. All of the coaches looked like they could use a 24-hour nap. They did the best they could and were generally funny, enthusiastic and charismatic, but you could tell they were all running on fumes. Sark mentioned his new DC, "Justin Sirmon" - I think that says it all about his exhaustion level.
  • Related to the above point - one of the stories was about how the staff managed to flip Pio Vatuvei from USC. The USC coaches apparently finished up their call with Pio last night at around 10PM. Bad call - that left the window open for Tosh to call him, and by 1AM the staff had succeeded in finally flipping him. This wasn't the only good Vatuvei story...

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  • Sark talked Lupoi into sharing a story from their in-home visit to the Vatuvei household. Tosh apparently told an abbreviated version (according to Sark), but the gist was: They got wind USC was going to be there the same night, so they re-arranged to come in after the USC coaches. On the way in, they also got wind that USC coaches felt they'd sealed the deal. But they put their hard-hats on and went to work convincing Pio and his family to come to Washington. Then Pio's dad came home, and things got very chilly. Dad is a big-time USC guy. And after listening to Tosh's pitch for a bit, he blew up and asked him "I don't get you - first it's Cal this, Cal that, now Washington!" But the staff weathered that storm and left that in-home with Pio really torn about what to do.
  • Sark also talked about Miles. Apparently Miles went "dark" for the 24 hours prior to 1PM today - Sark couldn't reach him at all. Said he figured he'd lost him. He was on his way to the sauna to get ready for the 2PM press conference, and it was Miles on the phone - said he paced back and forth on the Hec Ed floor in his gym shorts and towel around his neck, no shoes or socks, talking to Miles before he decided to stick to his commitment.
  • Tosh isn't a big personality like a Demetrice Martin, but you listen to the guy speak and you get why he's so good. He's a good speaker, and you can see how he would be a guy that kids relate to and can confide in - just comes across as confident but not cocky, earnest without being geeky, tough without being a caveman.
  • Heyward has a little more Martin in him, but is a touch more refined. Told a good story about playing here in 2000 when Oregon State suffered their one loss, and how intimidating it was to face our crowd.
  • Sirmon was called by Sark "the miner", because he's got his hard hat on working his tail off in locating the next crop - already has logged more than 50 Skype calls to 2013 prospects. Good personality, easy to see why he's considered an ace recruiter. Talked about how he was finally a Dawg after so many years (I half expected him to call out Dick Baird for not offering him out of high school).
  • Wilcox is a well-spoken guy, good sense of humor. Sark made a telling statement about how it's great to be a fiery, intense coach, but that you also need to be a great teacher. Clearly Sark thinks Wilcox is a better teacher than Holt was. And Wilcox talked about how he wants more length and more speed, but also more football IQ. They pointed out how much they liked the defensive players that also played a lot of offense.
  • Nansen is still a bundle of energy, and it's easy to see why he does so well with the Poly players. The rest of the staff loves him - Lupoi in particular talked about the number of times Nansen kicked his butt for kids in Hawai'i.
  • Really like Joel Thomas - I think he doesn't get enough credit as a coach and a recruiter.
  • Jimmy Daugherty impressed me more than usual tonight - he's got more edge to him than I remember, and in a good way.
  • Didn't get a great read on what Kiesau is like, but I didn't not like him. A little more understated than the other new hires.
  • Cozzetto was not present - he's undergoing shoulder surgery.
  • While getting Lupoi & Kiesau wasn't strictly about tearing down Cal, it was a factor based off of things Sark said. And I get it too - damaging Cal helps vault us clearly past them, and we can now focus on getting good enough to go toe to toe with Stanford & Oregon.

The comments on individual players wasn't much different than you've probably seen already from his afternoon press conference, but a few things that stood out to me:

  • Cory Littleton will be an OLB, and was cited as the model for the LB's they want to get - longer, bigger, fast guys. They know they'll need to coach up Littleton a bit on being more than a hand on the ground edge-rusher, but I think the days of recruiting Safety-sized guys and hoping they get bigger are gone.
  • Shaq is amazing - 'nuff said.
  • I love Lindquist's film as much as I did the first time I saw it. The kid has great tools - terrific arm, compact delivery, good speed and really good size, great running instincts. He's probably a little slower and not quite as physical a runner as Locker, but he's a lot more refined as a passer.
  • Miles clearly has the credentials, and he's accurate and has a good arm and is a good runner. But he's got a hitch in his windup that hopefully Sark & Kiesau can fix, and I didn't see the same arm strength as Lindquist. That said, his track record is fantastic, and it'll be a lot of fun watching he and Lindquist compete. Derrick Brown better bring his A-game if he wants to be the backup to Price...
  • A lot of speed on display in this class - Jaydon Mickens, Dwayne Washington, Erich Wilson, Kendyl Taylor, Cleveland Wallace, Shaq Thompson all stood out.
  • Pio Vatuvei is a beast. Hope the rumors of grade issues aren't true - this kid can compete right away for playing time.
  • The JC kicker Coons has a really, really strong leg. He will for certain be our kickoff guy at the very least, and expect to see a lot of touchbacks.
  • All of the OL highlights showed these guys staying with their blocks and burying their guy into the turf. Granted, these are highlight tapes, but they appear to have the nasty you want in an OL.
  • Kalei Auelua (as noted elsewhere) is a greyshirt candidate due to an injury he suffered this season.
  • Ryan McDaniel appears to be the only early-entry guy.
  • Don't forget about Marvin Hall & Antavius Sims who will become members of this class due to their delayed entry - both are fantastic athletes and also bring a ton of speed to the team.

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oh, and one more thing...

…Tosh didn’t get a boat. Sorry to burst the bubble of all those angry Cal fans.

by kirkd on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 PM PST reply actions  

That won't deter them.

They will just make up other stuff.

by bigtrain21 on Feb 1, 2012 11:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

We should all kick in $10 to buy Tosh a boat anyway.

Each dollar will be worth a thousand to bug eyed Cal fans . . .

and besides, it would be waay cool to have photos of coach(es) commuting to work at our beautiful stadium on the Lake by boat!

by HuskyInExile on Feb 2, 2012 1:49 AM PST up reply actions  

He needs a boat,

so we can get a photo of Sark and Tosh racing to work in their boats and put the photo on the tickets to our next home game with Cal.

"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis

by Carne Guisada on Feb 2, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

doesnt everyone in Seattle have a boat technically?

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Feb 2, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

It is nice to hear about all this stuff that we missed by not being there.

by bigtrain21 on Feb 1, 2012 11:51 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

The guys that I'm most excited about are

- Jake Eldrenkamp
- Ryan McDaniel
- Shaq Thompson
- Jeff Lindquist
- Shane Brostek

by Carl Shinyama on Feb 2, 2012 12:35 AM PST reply actions  

Blake Rodgers and Kendyl Taylor

Is one that I am really excited about. Prototypical size @ 6’2 220 who will get bigger.

Kendyl Taylor is versatile, tough and physical. I think he will bring an added dimension to the offense.

I hope Psalm Wooching is not Kimo Makaula V.2. A player who plays offense but should be on defense. The same things that Sark said about Psalm he said about Kimo a few years back.

by MNDawgfan on Feb 2, 2012 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Out of curiosity, why Lindquist & not Miles? Do you feel he is a significantly better talent?

Or if you have already laid out this argument before just link me to that if you would. Thanks

by C Dubya on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

from my perspective...

…I like Lindquist’s film significantly more than Miles. Much better mechanics IMO, stronger arm, just looks more polished.

However, this is based off of watching highlight tapes. Highlight tapes can be misleading (for obvious reasons), and you might easily miss areas where Miles is superior to Lindquist. I suspect Miles may be more accurate than Lindquist. It’s possible he makes better decisions too.

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I've seen Lindquist play in person twice, and two of Miles' games on TV.

I think your assesment is pretty accurate. Lindquist is further along as a QB right now. Miles is probably more accurate, but it’s tough to say how much of that is due to the fact that he’s throwing to much better receivers than Lindquist had. Like (I think) you mentioned somewhere, he’s also got that little hitch in his delivery, and it looks like he overstrides a little. Lindquist throws the ball downfield more than Miles did in the games I saw.

I think Miles might have a higher ceiling just due to his size and speed, but he’s got further to go. He’s going to get some damn fine coaching the next 5 years, though.

by Sundodger on Feb 2, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

the hitch really stood out to me

I hadn’t really studied Miles’ film prior to last night, but man – it really popped out at me. Hopefully Sark & Kiesau can smooth that out. I think you’re right about the over-striding too.

And then to see Lindquist’s film right after – the difference in mechanics was striking.

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The Clarkson camp was a tremendous benefit for Lindquist.

The Elite 11 stuff is great, but I think it becomes as much a competition as it does a teaching situation.

by Sundodger on Feb 3, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping Lindquist & Miles will push each other in practices

Having two stud QB’s in the same class could have benefits if they both have the competitive fire to see the other guy playing really well and pushing themselves that much harder to get the edge.

by kirkd on Feb 3, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Huge competition

Because if you’re not one of the best there, you don’t get the “Elite 11” tag.

by thecassino on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for this kirkd.

This just gets me so excited for the future of this program! GO DAWGS!

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 2, 2012 1:20 AM PST reply actions  

Ditto

Thanks for sharing great write up!

by lorenzothedog on Feb 2, 2012 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It'll be nice to have a kicker who can get the ball into the back of the endzone on

a regular basis. No offense to Erik Folk but I certainly hope that Coons is more consistent on FGs as well.

by Coach Owens on Feb 2, 2012 2:55 AM PST reply actions  

from watching all the various vids,

“pancakes” are going to be on the daily menu.

by ole dawg on Feb 2, 2012 4:12 AM PST reply actions  

When is next years signing day!?

Not only am I on pins and needles for next season, but I can’t wait to see this staff recruit…this class was an intense warm up…next season is the “getting paid” phase.

by bigdave967 on Feb 2, 2012 5:10 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah

I’m excited to see what this new staff can do with an entire season!

by datboyeddiep on Feb 2, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting how parallel the stories are with Pio and Payton.

We talk to Pio until 1 AM and end up flipping him, Mora talks to Payton until 1 AM and does the same thing. Guess that’s the tradeoff.

by huskies2010 on Feb 2, 2012 5:21 AM PST reply actions  

Pio vs Payton

Do not get me wrong, would have LOVED to have Payton on board but it terms of need, Pio, I believe, was a bigger get. You can never have enough good/great D-Linemen, esp. a hybrid inside/outside guy. With 3 WR’s signed and a lot of young guys on the roster, Payton’s flip didn’t hurt as much as not getting a top D-Linemen. Pio was a huge pick up and I hope he continues to lean down and work on becoming a big time DE in our 3-4 scheme.

by bigdave967 on Feb 2, 2012 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

agree

and I am sure the coaches were prioritizing that late, and assumed Payton was probably a done deal

by CODawg on Feb 2, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Our offense is already rolling and we are nationally perceived as an offensive school. We should have no problem bringing in top flight WR talent. I really like all of the defensive talent we brought in. I am also really interested to see how this staff uses the current talent and integrates in these new guys.

by SeaHuskies on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Dwayne Washington

He’s got a LONG video on YT. About 14 minutes but after watching it I can safely conclude that Payton is not the player that Washington is. This kid is so physical and fast. Expect big things from him if he can stay healthy.

by murchy on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Write up

Great write up! Appreciate the run down :) Go Dawgs!!!

by tobinshack on Feb 2, 2012 6:05 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks for the great insight!

It’s amazing what the coaches go through for recruiting. I’m excited to see our new coaches and new recruits!

"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis

by Carne Guisada on Feb 2, 2012 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks Kirk

Way to take one for the team and give up your evening for us!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Feb 2, 2012 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

Great Job

Especially the small blurb about Joel Thomas. My father actually played a round of golf with Joel Thomas during the Sonny Sixkiller Husky Celebrity Golf Classic this past summer. He came away very impressed by his charisma, football knowledge, and commitment to the kids.

by SeaHuskies on Feb 2, 2012 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

Thomas is terrific

Every year I keep worrying “this might be the year another program swoops in and takes him away”. I guess as long as he gets a promotion to OC somewhere, I’d have to be happy for him…

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

a few other things I remembered:

- DT Josh Banks is apparently a workout fiend. Tosh told a funny story about recruiting him, saying he kept trying to talk schemes and technique with him, but what Josh really wanted to know about was the workout program, whether any lifting records had been set recently, etc. Tosh gave credit to Ivan Lewis for sealing the deal with Banks.

- Just wanted to add another note about Wilcox – he’s definitely got that air about him of “future head coach”. He’s going to really impress the AD’s he interviews with.

- Sark joked with Heyward about Shaq, saying “You know I call the plays, right?” You watch his film and you understand why Sark would want to use him on offense too. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see both Shaq and Sims get some snaps in the backfield in addition to playing in the secondary.

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

Just wanted to add another note about Wilcox – he’s definitely got that air about him of "future head coach". He’s going to really impress the AD’s he interviews with.

Sarkisian hired the Steve Sarkisian of defensive coordinators. Young, energetic, enthusiastic, highly intelligent.

by Sundodger on Feb 2, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, enjoy him while he's here, because it probably won't be for long

I keep thinking the timing might work out for Wilcox to head a few hours down I-5 in a couple years. Riley’s seat is starting to get warm, and as we’ve seen, Kelly is thinking NFL (though it seems likely Oregon will promote Helfrich if they can’t get Petersen).

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Another note on Lindquist

When I went to MI, our team won 1-2 games each year. There is little to NO football talent on that team/island, and what you see from Jeff Lindquist is that he made everyone around him better. He was not only a great leader, but I think he played the role of field general where he would actually coach his teammates on the field.

The MI football coach was my math teacher. His specialty was math. That was pretty much it.

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by JLee2025 on Feb 2, 2012 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Lindquist is a stud

I think a lot of us got into star gazing over Miles because Lindquist committed early but the truth is Jeff is a good runner (you don’t realize he’s 6’3 225lbs) and he’s a more technically gifted passer at this point. The battle should be ferocious.

by murchy on Feb 2, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The MI football coach was my math teacher. His specialty was math. That was pretty much it.

I went to a Mercer Island game to watch Lindquist. Not only does the marching band have about 5 times as many members as the football team (MI had a roster of about 30 players), but the crowd was more into their performance at halftime than in the game.

by Sundodger on Feb 2, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Kirk for the info!

Excellent read. Great way to start the day!

by datboyeddiep on Feb 2, 2012 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

really good recap overall

just a tip: first time you mention someone in an article use their full name (“Cyler Miles”) or an identifier (“Coach Sark” or “Coach Lupoi”). i’m sure there’s plenty of people that don’t have the same familiarity with all the new players and coaches yet.

by 206 on Feb 2, 2012 10:48 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

another bit I remembered from last night

Sark talked about how Lindquist & Miles were assigned to room together at the Elite 11 camp, and how they got along. Sark said Lindquist was also calling Miles in the last few weeks after Nuss left and Miles started considering USC, trying to convince Miles to stick with the UW.

I know a lot of people will want to portray these two kids as rivals, but it sounds like (at leas so far), they are happy to be teammates, and both understand the bigger picture of how it helps the program to have both of them.

by kirkd on Feb 2, 2012 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, the more I hear of Lindquist, the more impressed I get.

Calling another top QB and trying to get him to come to UW is above and beyond. I completely understand trying to help recruit other players that you will play with, but trying to help recruit a guy that is going to compete with YOU for the starting QB spot, that takes balls. That and it speaks to his team mentality and leadership. I’m very impressed.

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"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Feb 2, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It's great that they get along.

But the reality is that they’re likely going to be in the same class (assuming both redshirt). One of them will probably get the job at some point. The other will probably transfer out to get playing time. That’s just the reality of it.

by Sundodger on Feb 3, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

true

Chances seem high that eventually one of them will transfer out.

Wouldn’t it be something if this was our own Tim Tebow/Cam Newton situation? Speaking of Tebow, Miles’ passing mechanics remind me of Tebow – he drops his hand and has the long windup into his throw.

by kirkd on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Tebow is a good comp.

Price didn’t necessarily have the hitch when he first got here, but he had the windup and was too over the top. You wouldn’t know it now, with the way Sarkisian and Nussmeier rebuilt his throwing motion. Hope they can do the same with Miles. Most of it is up to him – how coachable he is and how willing he is to do the work.

by Sundodger on Feb 3, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

I recall Casey Paus and the bad mechanics he had. Neuheisel & Axeman were never able to fix it. A throwing motion is a tough thing to rebuild because of how much muscle memory you have to erase and rebuild – I’m not going to put too much blame on the coaches for not fixing Paus.

by kirkd on Feb 3, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey kirkd, meant to ask...

…did the coaches talk at all about Pio playing inside or outside?

by Sundodger on Feb 3, 2012 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

I've heard 5T or potentially 3T...

…but I honestly don’t recall if I heard that at the ceremony or if I read that elsewhere. He sure looks like a perfect 3-4 DE. Probably a touch undersized at the moment for 3T, and I haven’t seen enough of his frame to get a good sense of how much bigger he can get and still be effective.

by kirkd on Feb 3, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

He looks like he'd be a good end in a 4-3 as well. Like some of the guys USC usually has.

If you go by his bio at gohuskies.com, he’s already about the same size as Potoa’e (but taller). He definitely looks like he could add 15 or 20 pounds fairly easily, at least in this picture. Potoa’e obviously needs to get bigger as well, though.

The Dawgs really need to shore up that 3-tech spot. It’s been a killer on the line for years.

by Sundodger on Feb 3, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm really excited about Kendyl Taylor

i live in Chandler, AZ where he’s from and i’ve been to many of his games, he’s a total stud. great hands, great speed, runs good routes, impressive field vision. plus he comes from a school that is

very
used to winning (other than this years state championship, they hadn’t lost a single game in 3 years). Lindquist/Miles to Kendyl Taylor will be something special.

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by 206Dawgs on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

whoops, meant to put ‘very in italics’

"Attending Washington State is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."

by 206Dawgs on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

he looked really good on film

Excited to see the various ways Sark deploys him on offense. Sounds like he could get some carries out of the backfield in addition to being a WR.

by kirkd on Feb 4, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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