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Washington Recruiting Update

It has been a wild couple of weeks for Husky fans with most of the news being a disappointment until the hiring of Justin Wilcox and Peter Sirmon was announced yesterday.

I really think this hire sends out shockwaves across the country. These are two very hot assistant coaches we just hired. They are both going to make an immediate impact.

So whats up next? Justin Wilcox says it is time to hit the road to do a little recruiting. The Huskies have nineteen solid commits as of this morning and have room for approximately nine more. The majority of those guys will have to come from out of state.

The two biggest areas of concern heading into the final weeks is the offensive line and cornerback. Washington desperately needs to sign Zach Banner (Lakes) and Shane Brostek (Hawaii Prep) to resurrect this class. Jake Eldenkramp (Bellevue) who will choose between UW and WSU would give the class a nice finish even though I would prefer another tackle.

At corner Brandon Beaver (Dominguez) remains the number one target left on the board. The coaches would love to pair him with Randall Goforth (Poly), Richard Smith (Poly), or Davonte Neal. Alphonzo Marsh (Dominguez) also remains a possibility once Wilcox finishes evaluating some film.

I don't see Washington grabbing another safety unless Shaq Thompson (Grant) wants to come aboard. Most think he is a Cal lock but he has UW and Notre Dame among his finalists. If Washington is able to poach a DB coach off the Cal staff it could help.

Washington is still in on a couple of highly rated linebackers. Matt Rowe (Poly) is a likely visitor in January. Jared Afalava (Bingham) will choose between the Huskies, Nebraska, and Utah. The latest I heard is that he is Nebraska lean...that could all change with a good in home visit from Sirmon.

DE Dylan Cozens (Chaparral) has Washington in final five. He visited in December and enjoyed it. He was described as a sleeper earlier in the year but now he has offers from most of the Pac 12. Washington could still steal a visit from Deforest Buckner (Punahou) if he hits it off with the new coaches. Pio Vatuvei (Patterson) remains a possibility.

Christian Powell (Upland) can play FB, DE, or even LB. He is 6'0 250 lb kid with a lots of potential. Washington and Colorado are his top two. It will be interesting to see if the changes in the Washington coaching staff is a positive for him.

WR Jayden Mickens (Dorsey) is a kid I can see Washington landing if they still have room. He has offers from most of the Pac 12 and he had a good time on his UW visit. He was early SC commit but they dropped him when they ran out of room.

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I think this is encouraging

The hope being that Wilcox and Sirmon are able to infuse new energy and vitality with the remaining recruits, and close out the class with a strong finish. These coaches wanted to be a part of UW, and that passion will be transmitted during all their in-home visits. And you never know, the possibility always exists for a late surprise from last minute defection. One month left, time to hit the ground running.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 10:24 AM PST reply actions  

This class doesn't have to be a disaster....

They just need to finish strong down the stretch and make sure they have the holes filled at CB and OL. If they don’t do that it will a setback.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Curious

When Kiffin went from Tennessee, how many recruits followed him too USC? I wonder if any Tennessee recruits will follow Wilcox and Sirmon?

by Juneautom on Jan 3, 2012 10:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Just a couple. But it was complicated by the potential sanctions coming down the line.

Markeith Ambles was a solid TN commit that followed him to SC. Nickell Robey was being heavily recruited by Kiffin at TN, and was quoted as being “high on USC coaches when they were at TN”, and ultimately committed to SC. These are the only ones I can think of.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

We may get one ...

….but we aren’t exactly geographically attractive to most of the guys they recruit.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Banner

John, you mentioned in a previous comments string that he’s a lean to OU. Any more clarity on that?

Also, good news on Hall and Sims getting enrolled at UW, and on the team . . .

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010312aac.html

by NY85Dawg on Jan 3, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Hall and Sims are indeed in...

Banner is going to visit USC later in the month and then make up his mind. Oklahoma seems to be very attractive to him for some reason. Hopefully the attraction of also playing some BBall for Romar is what puts us over the top.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Family Split between UW and SC

Is what was said on Dawgman and Oklahoma would be a neutral pick for him where he would not have to pick one side of the family over the other.

by MNDawgfan on Jan 3, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

finally, the Sims soap opera ends

glad to get him in. Hopefully the juco DT gets in quicker.

by dawgdude on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal db coach

Are we talking Ashley Ambrose?

Is David Shaw still on the radar or did Graham retain him?

by PandG on Jan 3, 2012 10:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Ambrose

David Shaw is the head coach at Stanford (who is out looking for a new kicker today). Ambrose is the top name being kicked around today because Wilcox coached with him at Cal and UW could give him a pretty big raise.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Ambrose would be nice

And I wouldn’t mind a bit it a Cal PSA or two decided to give UW a second look either.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

i meant Greg Burns

Who was not retained by Graham.

This is what the coaches conference in S.A. is for.

by PandG on Jan 3, 2012 11:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Of course they are

Imagine a fanbase not taking some shots in this situation. But I do feel for Tenn, seeing how they have been hit the last few years. It is a proud program.

Benno

by Benno on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Reading their blog it seemed interesting but their arrogance regarding the move put me off.

Roast Duck is a delicacy.

by PurpleHeart on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Sub-lateral?

Perhaps they say that because UW’s defense is worse, and probably less talented than Tennessee’s defense. I wouldn’t blame them for having that perception.

I’m more inclined to view the move as being more lateral, unless perhaps they are going to get a considerable pay raise, in which case, I’d call that a promotion. Also, as things stand currently, I would dare say that UW appears to be trending upward more so than at Tennessee, despite UW’s defense, so I’d strike that as being considerably more than sub-lateral move.

I can see how they’d be bitter. But as we’ve learned in the recent past with Demetrice Martin, that’s part of the business.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I think it's clearly lateral at worst

Tennessee does have a more storied history than Washington, but in comparing the current state of the programs I don’t see Tennessee having any advantage – Dooley is on a very hot seat and unlikely to survive next season, their record is worse during the 3-year stretch Sark has been at Washington (18-20 vs. 19-19) and trending the wrong way. That last time Tennessee was particularly good (2007), current recruits were still in middle school or younger.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I went and checked Wikipedia for a quick history comparison

First year – Huskies 1889, Volunteers 1891
Overall record – Huskies 668-416-50 (.611), Volunteers 792-345-53 (.688)
Postseason bowl record – Huskies 16-14-1, Volunteers 26-24-0
Claimed National titles – Huskies 2 (1960, 1991), Volunteers 6 (’38, ’40, ’50, ’51, ’67, ’98)
Conference titles – Huskies 15, Volunteers 16

by CMC_Stags on Jan 3, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

UT and UW are pretty much on a par

UT always thinks that they are on the same level as an Alabama and even though they have some good years in the past they aren’t the Tide and they will never be the Tide.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

historically...

…I have to give the nod to Tennessee. Not by a lot, but they do have a more storied history.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Tennessee has a richer history, they also have a much larger following. The stadium seats 100,000+ and the football program brings in quite a bit more revenue (for now).

by DawgPak on Jan 3, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Tennessee is also Tennessee.

Meaning it’s the only major university in the state. Here we have WSU for competition. UT is like Nebraska, they’re the only game in town.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 4, 2012 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

WSU doesn't really count as competition. How often do we lose legit recruits to them?

UT has to compete with the SEC, Big 10, ACC, Big 12, etc.

Football matters way more in TN than in WA. I was there a couple months ago and the state shut down near Knoxville when the game occurred. People like UW but the fans aren’t quite as in to it.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Why does it matter...

if the move was lateral or sublateral? The fact is that Wilcox and Sirmon jumped at the chance to coach at Washington. Obviously, a more “storied history” and a 100,000+ stadium capacity wasn’t enough to keep them.

by UWDawgyDawg on Jan 4, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I missing something?

At lot of gloom and doom about the Dawgs, but I think we are better off today than we were a week ago. We lost out on Russel, but people seem more concerned about where he lives than what he would bring to the UW. I’m more concerned about linemen and LBs.

We have 19 recruits and they are rated 38th. Not mind blowing, but we have a month to go and many of us feel the new coaches will get us more kids than the loss of Nick will cost us.

I had high hopes for Holt and the D, especially after the Holiday bowl, but that was clearly the highlite. Even with Holt, I feel the D would have been better. Now I really feel good about next year, and we still have two openings.

Concerning the Duck coaches….I think the break from all U$C/Idaho is good. These guys coach and recruit well. Some say they may not be here long, so what, do you want dead end coahes? I feel good about the Huskies and I’m anxious for next year.

by dawgdude on Jan 3, 2012 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

not making Garnett's final list is a tough blow...

…and the rumors about Banner are not encouraging. I agree that I’m more concerned about how we close on linemen, though it does suck to lose a play-maker like Russell.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

We didn't get visits from Williams, Garnett, and Dozier...

I mean that is pretty pathetic…cross your fingers on Banner because we could really use him.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Fingers Crossed on Banner as we speak!

I sincerely hope we can get him…I mean we are well on our way to do great things in the PAC12 (the near future)… And with Zach Banner in the lineup, that improves our chances a great deal (even on the national level)!!

by Jake Locker on Jan 4, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What rumors exactly?

The last I had heard about Banner was him speaking about his UW visit, and Banner had said that he though very highly about UW.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

same here

i heard banner giving UW a 12 out of 10 it sounds to me like he loves us.

by charles188 on Jan 3, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

my impression

His mind was about made up on OU until he visited UDub. OU is still the favorite

by CODawg on Jan 3, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

premium info from DM.com, but...

…the same sources that told the recruiting guys at Dawgman that Russell was going to pick Notre Dame are saying Banner is going to pick Oklahoma.

An explanation I’ve seen is that the family is split between UW and USC, and Oklahoma would be the neutral compromise.

Who knows – we’ll find out for sure on Signing Day.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes no sense.
An explanation I’ve seen is that the family is split between UW and USC, and Oklahoma would be the neutral compromise

I guess I didn’t really go through the recruiting process myself, but why would you ever choose everyone’s second choice?

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

happened with Kellen Winslow Jr

He wanted to go to Washington, his dad wanted him at Michigan State, they settled on Miami.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

famous story

Jr. was all set to announce on live TV and Sr. forbade him from picking the UW – he was a staunch union guy and Neuheisel had been a scab during the NFL strike season in 1987. He also had strong feelings about minority coaching opportunities which is why he championed Michigan St. (this is when Bobby Williams was head coach there), so it’s a bit odd that Sr. was OK with Miami.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It does makes sense...

From a post up above from me…

Family Split between UW and SC

Is what was said on Dawgman and Oklahoma would be a neutral pick for him where he would not have to pick one side of the family over the other.

by MNDawgfan on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That reasoning doesn't make sense.

Why would family memebers take offense at him choosing whatever school he wants to go to? Makes it sound like a few too many people are taking part in his decision.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

it's message board speculation...

…I wouldn’t treat it as gospel. Who knows what’s really going on. Hopefully Zach prefers the UW and his family and friends support him.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It happens all the time

Keivare Russell part of the reason why he didn’t go to UW was his mom’s dislike for UW.

Kellen Winslow above, Lache Seastrunk, I think Kirifi Taula was another, Tevin Carter, James Montgomery.

List goes on and on…..

by MNDawgfan on Jan 3, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, I know parents obviously have influence.

Is the rumor just that each of his parents has a different preference and because they can’t agree he should just go to OU? Still sounds dumb to me.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 3, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in total agreement with you there!

His parents are split between option 1 and 2, so he chooses option 3 to placate his family? That’s completely skewed logic, isn’t it?

by Jake Locker on Jan 4, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

How about the quality of life as well?

That and having to deal with OKC fans, who would wish that upon their son?

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 3, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

not to mention how much further away it is for visits and watching games in person

I still have to think UW will end up with Zach given that he seems to be very close to his parents and that would make it easiest on them.

Cross your fingers…

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was in charge of the in state recruiting this year?

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

in-state is split up amongst all the staff

Not sure which coach had which parts of the state, but Sark split up in-state duties among all his coaches.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They all need to re examine how they handle instate then...

Hard to believe this year of all years would be this horrible.

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

They got Jeff Lindquist, so it's not all bad.

They also got Cory English and Nathan Dean, so they didn’t do too horribly this year.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

In a year with this much talent?

I’m guessing you didn’t write this with a straight face. You can’t tell me missing on almost all the blue chips in state is doing well? If they don’t get Banner at minimum this is a horrible recruiting job in state, with Banner its at best average. Don’t get me wrong, I love who we have commits from but when we miss out on Garnett a legacy, a Russell, Caleb the TE, the kid going to Wisconsin, Dozier, I don’t know of a year where we’ve missed out on so many in state guys even in the worst of times… or maybe I don’t care to remember.

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 4, 2012 10:10 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

It could be worse. Way worse.

And remember, UW was in the running for every single one of them with the possible exception of Walker.

I’m not passing judgment on this class yet. Not until years down the line. However, I certainly do not think this class is horrible. This year’s class still has nine spots left, so there’s time to bring in recruits who tend to be more highly regarded.

I think some people got spoiled with last year’s success in bringing in all of the state’s blue chip recruits. That was the first time in a long time UW had done that.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2012 1:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

bringing in all the blue chips on this side of the Cascades is the expectation though

Maybe it’s no longer realistic, but the expectation since the days of Owens, DJ & Lambo is that the UW gets all, or very nearly all of the in-state studs. Possible exceptions being kids in Spokane or Vancouver.

Yes, DJ didn’t land every single in-state guy he wanted, but his success rate was very high.

by kirkd on Jan 4, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And that's more of what i'm not understanding

I can see missing on one or two, but missing on 5 or 6 and 1 being a legacy? You just can’t miss on these guys in a year where the talent is so deep in state, I would have settled on getting half these guys, but only 1 or 2 is very disappointing.

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 4, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree...I think it was 3 steps forward...1 step backwards

But with the overall situation very much improved… (feeling a giant sized hole to fill with Polk gone though) I really like this group of kids coming in! Now, close on some needs on D this month!

by gliderdawg on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

How about offensive lineman!

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by dawgfan22 on Jan 5, 2012 6:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't even comparing coaching staffs to past coaching staffs..

But I understand what you’re saying.

That said, my feeling is that this year appears to be an anomaly, and I do not believe that with the exception of Walker, and perhaps even Russell, that not landing most or all of them is an reflection of UW’s current coaching staff and their ability to recruit.

Heck, tonight, Condotta included quotes by those who follow college football recruiting who appear to share that sentiment:

Recruiting analysts say they think Washington’s inability to secure most of the top in-state talent this year is hard to pin on any one specific reason.

“I would call it unique circumstances,” said Jacob Worthen, the West recruiting analyst for Fox Sports/Scout.com. “Josh Garnett, from the beginning, we felt was headed to Stanford, and that’s still where I think he will sign. With him it was an education thing, and any time you lose a kid to Stanford it’s not an indictment as much as it is how much that kid values his education.”

Even though Dozier attended Lakes in Pierce County, he’s not a typical local recruit who got away.

“He’s not from the area,” Worthen said. "He grew up in Georgia and he has some unique family situations, so for him it wouldn’t be as much staying at home (to play at UW) as it would be for a kid who grew up in Washington.

“I think KeiVarae was the one that kind of shocked people, just because he is a born-and-bred Washington kid. He’s had a good relationship with the staff. I think Washington was at least a co-favorite all along. So that one was a big blow.”

Adam Gorney, the West recruiting analyst for Rivals.com and YahooSports, calls UW’s in-state losses an anomaly.

“I don’t think it’s any kind of indictment on the Washington staff or the job (UW coach Steve) Sarkisian is doing,” he said. “I think it’s just really a group of guys who wanted to go out of state more than wanted to stay home and play.”

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach Cox handled the South Puget Sound

Cox is an excellent position coach but apparently he screwed the pooch on the recruiting trail this past season by rubbing local kids and coaches the wrong way.

He was responsible for Zach Banner, Josh Garnett, Cedric Dozier, Caleb Smith, and Walker Williams…not a single commitment out of that group as of today.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 5, 2012 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow...

it’s suprising to me that Sark didn’t handle some of those big fish himself.

by Snostrebla on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Head Coaches

Those guys are the closers and they are limited to only one home visit. Sark’s one on one role with the recruit becomes a lot more prominent in January.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 5, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

it seems to go a little deeper than academics with regard to Garnett

If you see the interview with Scott Garnett, there seems to be a disconnect between him and the UW. And when you consider that Josh has said he wants to go into medicine, the notion that Stanford (and Michigan for that matter) is clearly superior academically is no longer a valid excuse. Both Josh & Scott also talk a lot about the current state of the various football programs, and curiously downplay the rise under Sark and how the UW compares to Stanford & Michigan.

by kirkd on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t watched the video but from what I’ve read it sounds to me like they (Scott & Josh) put a lot of “weight” on who has done the best job of developing NFL talent on the OL as opposed to overall record. My guess is that Stanford having two OL about to be drafted in the first round is huge to them. ND and Michigan have done a good job of developing lineman also. Unfortunately UW…not so much.

by Snostrebla on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

plus...

…maybe they don’t like Cozzetto. He’s been known to rub some kids the wrong way…

by kirkd on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sark is in charge of ALL recruiting

As for who the main points of contact are in-state, unless Sark changed it recently, it’s split up among all his assistants as I noted above.

by kirkd on Jan 4, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

Like I had said about Keivarae Russell, I guess I have a much different personality than some of these kids do. If I was 17 years old again, and I was in their place, I’d make my decision on where I want to go, not my mom, not my dad. Nobody but me. It’s my life, not theirs. If they don’t like my decision, tough for them.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So, if they decide that way

then who are we to get all vainglorious about how the recruiting coaches could have done better?

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by OLDDOG on Jan 3, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Mom

It’s really a great excuse for him to say when he decided his reason personally and didn’t want people to hate him for it. Everyone hates his Mom now.

by DawgPak on Jan 3, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hm. I hadn't thought of it that way.

Yeah, it would be a great excuse if he indeed wanted to go to Notre Dame and didn’t want to be hated on. But then, it’s his life, and if people don’t like it, tough.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This makes more scense

When I first read about his mom not liking UW my first thought was “then how did we make your top two?”. Wouldn’t you think we would have been eliminated a loooooong time ago?

by Snostrebla on Jan 4, 2012 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

So is this the first year that UW can start using the Pac 12 network as a recruiting tool for out of state prospects?

I imagine that it will be better once the network actually goes live, and coaches can actually show a family on their TV where they’ll be able to watch their son play football every week. Obviously it doesn’t give any advantage over other Pac 12 Schools, but it will be nice if UW tries to recruit outside of the Pac 12 footprint.

by Mind of no mind on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

Tairen Owens

Speaking of recruits, check out the senior tape of Tairen Owens. One word…ELUSIVE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN6nW-tx14A

by MNDawgfan on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

As an aside

Lindquist currently looking real solid in the Semper Fi bowl.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

How many recruits we have playing in that game?

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Lindquist and Dean are our commits

PSA’s we’re still targeting are Afalava, Jaxon Hood, and Jayden Mickens (also looking good tonight). Hopefully Lindquist is working them over when possible ( and Lindquist did toss a TD to Mickens in the 2nd quarter).

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

db coach

On Bob C’s blog he talkes about Al Simmons as db coach

by Robert M on Jan 3, 2012 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

also...

…Simmons used to coach Shaq’s brother SydQuan at Cal. I doubt we get Shaq, but this probably helps our cause.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Beat me too it

apparently Shaq Thompson tweeted that we just hired his brothers old DB coach. He seems to know a lot about UW’s football hirings for a guy that is a lock with CAL. crosses fingers

by SeaHuskies on Jan 3, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If they hired Simmons...

His first PSA call would be to Shaq.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope not

since it’s a dead period

by zifnab32 on Jan 3, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

1 phone call per prospect allowed during Dead periods

And prospects can call coaches any time, no restrictions. So not only could Simmons call Shaq today, he could also put word in via Shaq’s H.S. coach to have Shaq call him.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

UW loses another potential recruit.

Three star LB Jared Afalava.

@JakeWorthen: South Jordan (UT) Bingham LB Jared Afalava has committed to #Nebraska… #UW

by Coach Owens on Jan 3, 2012 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

nothing's final until Signing Day

Let’s see if Sirmon can’t turn him around.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Or swap him with one of they're Tenn recruits!

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 3, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Tenn. Recruits

Apparently there aren’t any Tenn. recruits that are looking at Washington.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7416300/tennessee-recruits-stunned-coaching-departures (insider story)

“Santos was also recruited by Wilcox and Sirmon and said he talked to the coaches recently.

“I had no idea,” said Santos, who said Washington would be too far away if the two coaches came calling."

by bigdave967 on Jan 3, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Still some time to sell them on the idea though..

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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 3, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but it's always frustrating to see them committ somewhere else.

Especially in a year where the team’s only had a lukewarm class so far.

by Coach Owens on Jan 3, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

where's the beef?

Gotta get a few more big uglies. Brostek would be a great addition, and obviously it would be awesome to land Banner. Could really use a pretty good DT prospect too.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

probably a SDE, or 3T at the most

Still would like to see us get a legit NT prospect to add to the depth behind Shelton & Lagafuaina.

by kirkd on Jan 3, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Those guys are hard to come by. It wasn’t a good year for NT’s on the west coast this year.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

"Those guys are hard to come by"

Huge understatement, but I mean that nicely in that you noticed just how rare those guys are coming out of HS.

by HuskyInExile on Jan 4, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Only about three or four top notch NT on the west cost this year. Hard to find for sure. We are VERY lucky that we got Shelton last year.

by Snostrebla on Jan 5, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I would agree that they need more linemen.

Outside of Banner and Brostek, I don’t know of any other higher-rated linemen that UW is in the running for.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Just looked at his junior highlights. Very impressive.

He looks like he projects far better as a guard at the college level than as a tackle. I’d love for UW to get him if he’s interested.

He appears to play in a ZBS scheme; I see very little man-blocking. If so, he will have to learn an entirely different blocking scheme at UW.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The video is a bit deceiving

Bellevue runs a wing-t, which requires a TON of man-blocking. A lot of down and cross-blocks, trap, pulling ect.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps the video is deceiving... It is only 8 minutes long after all.

And es, I saw a considerable amount of Wing T formations, and traditionally, they have used man blocking, but what I saw from Eldrenkamp blocking in that video was that he blocked whoever was in his specific zone than a specific player more often not. This is very noticeable when he proceeds forward.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked what I saw on Dylan Cozens' highlight film.

I certainly like his potential to be a solid starter eventually.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2012 10:28 PM PST reply actions  

In other news:

‘Grats to IT for being Sacramento’s top performer in yesterday’s game!

Not too shabby for 16 minutes. Also, in awkward news, Q-Pon went 2-5 for 4 points. Really weird seeing those two play against each other.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 AM PST reply actions  

Shaq Thompson

He tweeted that Al Simmons who coached his older brother at Cal will be one of the new DB coaches at Washington. If that does turn out to be the case later today it may be enough to get Shaq to UW.

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by John Berkowitz on Jan 4, 2012 6:26 AM PST reply actions  

Whats the word on him as a coach?

Read up on him last night when I heard this…Had a great year in 08(?) with Cal, they lead the conf with 24 int’s. Then had a little bit of a down year in ’09 and ’10. Left to join (got asked to leave…either or) Mike Price at UTEP.

by bigdave967 on Jan 4, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as I know

you kind of nailed it. Verdict is still out because he had some great numbers, but also a some standout players. Not sure if he would be considered the strongest of coaches. However, he is supposedly a great recruiter of the SoCal area. In my mind, he is pretty much a clone of Martin, but I guess we will have to see.

by SeaHuskies on Jan 4, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

For some reason I thought his name was involved in some sort of controversy a couple years back. I’ll have to do som research later.

by Snostrebla on Jan 4, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If he bring Thompson in

I dont care much how well he coaches

by CODawg on Jan 4, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

+1...but,

Add a Mickens,Thompson,Banner,Beaver plus a few big surprises? I’ll be very up on this one. I don’t think MVP Lindquist throwing TD’s to Mickens yesterday hurts UW’s upside either…

by gliderdawg on Jan 4, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

disagree

you can’t hire an assistant coach just to try and land 1 recruit. even if shaq turns out to be the next ed reed, it won’t matter if the guys around him can’t play

by CAHusky on Jan 5, 2012 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Exaggerration

It should have obviously been and exaggeration, and to over emphasize a point of how nice it would be to get Thompson.

by CODawg on Jan 5, 2012 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Orange Bowl

yeesh, Clemson may have a worse D than us. West Virginia up 63-20 with 8 minutes left in the third, and they just got the ball back.

by Cad on Jan 4, 2012 8:16 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

recruiting

“…The two biggest areas of concern heading into the final weeks is the offensive line and cornerback…”

You think the OL is a bigger concern than the D-Line? We got one DT last season (Danny Shelton) and one this season (a JUCO at that) for a defense that gave up a record amount of points and yardage.

Yes, the OL and CB recruits are important, but I can’t say they are the “biggest” concern. I have to put all three in the same category.

by onewoodwacker on Jan 6, 2012 4:19 AM PST reply actions  

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