Well This Is Interesting
Developing Story:
"KGW's Michael Berk reports Chip Kelly is working to finalize a deal that would make him head coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs. "
To say the least, this is interesting as hell.
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This is from former Oregon OL Geoff Schwartz
There is not a chance Chip is going to the NFL at this point unless Oregon is going to get hit w/ sanctions.
Maybe, maybe not. Chip is on record in Portland as having said that he is interested in coaching in the NFL.
… the question was always when someone in the NFL was going to give him a chance.
Still, timing is suspicious – even the Duckers think so.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Does this mean the same thing it meant when Carrol came to SEA?
That UofO is in deep duck doo doo?
if the report is true...
…then yes – I’d say it’s a good sign Oregon knows they’re going to get hit with sanctions.
I like the sound of that....
“deep duck doo doo”=“a win win”! I also would love to be a bug on the wall of the next “in home” visits Chip tries to sell a kid…Shaq T. and the rest will look great in Purple And Gold! Levers of power are starting to shift!
The story has serious legs...
My sources say the only way he takes the job is if he is certain Oregon is about to be hammered by the NCAA…welcome to Tampa Chip!
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Will the NFL let him use his lil' signs and cartoons?
Or is that under negotiation?
will be for some time
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 22, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Chip is the brains of that system
and a lot of their success is the ability to adjust at half time. If they don’t have Chipper, they’ve lost a huge part of what makes them good. They have huge amounts of talent and speed, but it’s all built around their system. How good will they be without the puppet master? Probably good enough to win a down North next year, but it bodes well for UW’s future.
Their coaches would probably maintain the same system.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor mill is churning out:
…Chris Petersen
… Gary Patterson
… Mike Bellotti
… Justin Wilcox
and
… Ty Willingham
… Nick Holt
… Rosemary’s baby.
so much for that.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Chris Petersen would the first guy I think they'd target
Kind of doubt they’d be ready to hand the reigns to Wilcox, but the assistant route worked out with the Chipster…
Phil can throw a lot of money at Petersen
A metric shit-ton.
Doesn't seem like it
Seems like all he does is turn teams down, no matter the money, and he finally has BSU in a BCS conference.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Every man has his price. That BSU conference deal is pretty weird.
The Pac-12 is the real deal, and Oregon is ready-made for it.
possibly
But I think they’d explore a lot of head coach options first. They’ll throw money at Petersen & Patterson first.
Maybe they turn to Bellotti as a short-term solution to groom the next guy (again)?
helfrich?
they almost have to stay in-house because:
a) lack of a-listers
b) prospect of sanctions not being resolved soon
c) Signing Day coming up
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
makes sense
They’d be wise to stick with the same system rather than bringing in someone like Petersen.
Maybe Bellotti with Helfrich as coach-in-waiting?
don't be so sure ...
… I think Gruden is going to help Kelly network with his coaching tree in building up the defensive side of the ball.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
allioti has been at oregon for 3 decades, or something...
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon situation would seem more appealing to me
More talent, more patient fanbase, no USC. And in the Northwest.
not if they're under sanctions
Plus, while Oregon currently has more talent, it’s still easier to recruit talent to UCLA. That said, Petersen has past ties to Oregon.
Easier to recruit to UCLA? Now? Doubtful.
Not with Oregon’s facilities and recent success.
Sanctions are the wildcard here. Nobody can say for sure, but I doubt they are going to get hammered. Not after the Buckeyes and Auburn.
it's ALWAYS easy to recruit to UCLA
Elite school, great weather, good tradition, and smack dab in the best talent pool outside of Texas and Florida. Yeah, recruiting to UCLA is easy – it’s why their recruiting class are usually top 2-3 in the conference.
and don't forget an 18-year-olds #1 weakness...
GIRLS…at Texas and UCLA the coed “talent pool” is unreal…i’ve heard Florida’s is too.
True, but
Hot coeds + Los Angeles/SoCal >>>>> Hot coeds + Tempe/Phoneix
Oregon fans, patient?
I’m not sure about that. Let’s put that to the test.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't Peterson already have experience as an assistant at Oregon?
There’s that, too.
Personally..
…I think Ty would be a GREAT fit at oregon!
by Snostrebla on Jan 22, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Or maybe . . .
Neuheisel, he has a little “history” with Oregon!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
he was hired by bellotti, who is available, and retained bellotti's staff...think roung here are stable.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno - if he bolts a week before signing day, the whole class could get a shake up...
… and you have to think that is sanctions followed, it could be a quick demise.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Don't underestimate the chaos of a new coaching staff.
If he goes to Tampa, he’s taking a lot of his staff with him.
He's really good, and I'd like to have him and all...
but I think it’d be funny if the staff told Jeremy Castro to kick rocks if this goes down.
Well, he just took an official to UCLA that went pretty well
So even if he rules out Oregon he’s not a lock for UW
Not only that, but USC has weathered the storm pretty well.
They aren’t out of the woods yet, though.
there is a huge difference between Eugene and LA in this kind of situation.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
The big thing with USC
is that they delayed their scholarship penalty for basically two years. They’re definitely going to start feeling it in 2013 and 2014.
Looks like it is about to happen
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 22, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
This Is Starting To Sound Like The...
Chips about to hit the fan..(ATQ fan at least?)
THen there's this
Greg Birrens
I actually committed to #UCLA Saturday, I’m a Bruin," Jeremy Castro said
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*Biggens
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
lol, argh
I give up
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
I’m going to dinner. I’m going to have trouble eating.
1) My wife will be pissed that I’m glued to twitter and ATQ.
2) It’s hard to get food in your mouth when you’re smiling from ear to ear.
+1
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
+1
It won’t help Duck fans that they did a little smirking over the Tosh affair . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
That's what they get for spamming our blog!!!!!
As somebody so eloquently said, “You mess with the Berkowitz, you get the horns!”
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
John is quite powerful,
and well connected, but I don’t think even he could have orchestrated this!
Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
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You underestimate . . . .
the power of the darkside!
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Can't explain it but my computer just got...
A “stiffy”!
by gliderdawg on Jan 22, 2012 6:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
So questions
1. Sanctions causing this sudden move you think?
2. Recruits already jumping ship?
3. Is Tyrone Willingham a good fit for them?
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Willingham, Holt, Neuheisel, Wulff
Lots of strong candidates available…
I was being facetious...
Petersen would be a serious get. Not out of the question either.
he definitely has connections...
… but the support that he has gotten for his son (brain cancer survivor) keeps his tethered in a meaningful way to Boise.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Doesn't matter if sanction are coming or not . . ..
There will be 11 conference teams telling EVERY recruit that Oregon is about to get hammered by the NCAA. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, the damage will get done.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Addicted to Quack fans are blaming us
Saying Sark planned it
Hilarious
+1
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
+3
and raise you a walk on kicker.
Was it only a month ago we were mourning the loss of our DL coach and ace recruiter, and wondering whether Sark would actually take action on the D coaching staff?
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not going to celebrate this...
until I know who they hire and who makes up the staff.
Oh come on....
You’re going to celebrate a LITTLE bit….
I did a little bit...
but I’m done now until I see how this whole thing plays out.
The only reason he leaves is Sanctions soo..
who cares who they hire, it won’t be anyone who is worth anything, not many coaches go to a situation like that unless they think it’s a dream job, not sure there’s anyone who fits that bill at this moment…other than our current DC
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
TB is a solid situation
with a good young team and great draft position this year. Plus Uncle Moneybags might throw gobs of cash at him, but does he want him $6-8M badly?
Let's keep Wilcox under wraps
Till they find a coach
I dont think it'll happen in the near future
although they have a respectable defense, their pride and joy is offense and i dont see a defensive minded guy being the captain of that ship.
"Attending Washington State is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
unless its Aliotti.
"Attending Washington State is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
ATQ makes for a good trolling experience right now
by TheFountainAndTheMountain on Jan 22, 2012 6:20 PM PST reply actions
Funny how they don't like it either..
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
My enjoyment
Comes from them, no need to troll…
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
ATQ Is All "Burning Man"!!!
If U told me 3 weeks ago….think about how much we’ve seen from just before the Alamo-Today!? Amazing to be a Dawg!
Is it just Destiny that we dominate the Pac12 north next season
everything just seems to be falling into place….
by TheFountainAndTheMountain on Jan 22, 2012 6:31 PM PST reply actions
dominate? I doubt it
More competitive though, I can see that. Kelly – as much as I hated the smug prick – was an offensive genius. Hard to imagine that the replacement will be as good.
That said, I doubt they drop off quickly.
I *really* want to see Kelly try to run that offense in the NFL
Cause I will have a big bowl of popcorn in front of me, ready for the hilarity.
Not likely. Though this probably will slow down Oregon some,
Stanford still beat the crap out of us. That was NOT fun
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
But Stanford is looking for a new OC now that Luck is gone
by B Money on Jan 22, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
wow, an actualy quote from ATQ
“I have to believe Uncle Phil will take care of things
And buy us a great coach.
This recuriting class might be fucked, but we can survive that once.”
by TheFountainAndTheMountain on Jan 22, 2012 6:32 PM PST reply actions
It makes sense.
But they will have to move quickly or poach a big name somewhere.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I certainly hope that if they do, they don't come looking at UW.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of hope they do.
How sweet would it be if reports came out that Oregon was turned down by Coach Sark? Uncle Phil has a lot of money, but I don’t think he could make an offer that UW is unable to match. And the way things are going, I doubt Sark wants to burn all his bridges here and walk into our hated rival just as they’re about to be hit with sanctions.
by Mind of no mind on Jan 22, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
UW could not match $4M
Would Sark take it? Probably not, because he turned down what would have been a more lucrative offer from STL Rams. Don’t get it twisted, UO’s coaching budget is bigger than ours…a lot bigger.
Phil is getting old enough that his family is going to start caring about how he slings his money around
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Ugh, sounds like my family.
I come from a long line of white trash. All anyone is concerned about is how much they get when people die. That and the best deals on cheap vodka. I would hope that Knights family would be willing to accept a paltry $1B instead of $25B (or whatever his net worth is).
actually, I think they are taking it in stride...
…compare and contrast to Cal fans following the Tosh situation.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Which seems odd to me; Cal loses a couple good assistant coaches, but keeps
their (very good) Head Coach . . . and their blog goes into full nuclear meltdown.
Ducks lose their brilliant (don’t have to like him, but you gotta admit he’s good) Head Coach, and after a short hard shiver promptly ‘buck up’ ans say they’ll just go get another.
Are the fan bases that different, or is it something that only develops in the fans that get active online?
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
I think it makes Cal look like a bunch of overreacting pussies
we lost our best recruiter to a lateral move and he took more of our class than Tosh has. I’d like to think we dealt with it like adults. Maybe some bitterness, but nobody is burning Mora in effigy over here.
Actually..
Sanctions makes a lot more sense!
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Hhmmm
Interesting idea . . . .
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Football Scoop
Says that Chip has accepted the Bucs offer
by john_s on Jan 22, 2012 6:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They sure nailed the Holt case.
Credibility is strong.
The Chip Kelly hire is now being confirmed according to different citations across the twitterverse...
… it would appear to be a done deal.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
before I forget, I have to say something
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
[pause]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
by kirkd on Jan 22, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions 13 recs
Rec'd for pure awesomeness
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
My fault
I’ll go with extreme comedy!
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd
My thoughts exactly!!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
So, when it's official, can we make this whole blog green again?
by grinch11 on Jan 22, 2012 7:09 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Kelly's thinking
Copying a tweet I saw referenced over at ATQ on Kelly’s thinking:
Why NFL? "More money and less (stuff)," someone said of Kelly’s interests.
Good recruiting news
@sb_joedavidson: Chip Kelly did indeed cancel Sacramento-area recruiting trips….
Was supposed to have an in-home with Shaq Thompson tonight.
I guess we can mark this day 1..
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 13 recs
ATQ is NOT in flames...
… and, actually, I’m impressed with how well they are handling this. I’d guess that we would be much more panicked than they seem to be right now.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
yeah, I didn't see an unreasonable response there
Then again, who knows how many posts the mods are deleting…
Wrong choice of words of my part
And you’re right about how they’re handling it. Wasn’t trying to suggest they were going off the deep end. Was more about the activity. Over 1000 comments in less than 2 hours was pretty impressive.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Uncle Phil
I love how ATQ is freely admitting how important of a figure Uncle Phil is to the program.
From buying the next coach. To sending Phil to Shaqs in home since Chip cancelled.
It’s all going to come out and DT, LMJ and the Visor leaving is just a pebble in the Duck pond
by john_s on Jan 22, 2012 7:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
And the 49ers lose...
this has turned out to be a pretty good sports day, people.
Sanchez 49ers. Sancheeeeez Oregon. I’m out.
by zeeehjee on Jan 22, 2012 7:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
INDEED
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
My week is now complete
Lupoi comes to Seattle, San Fran loses, and Oregon is in flames. What a great week to be a Dawg.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 7:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget Cal!
Losing some of their commits.
by john_s on Jan 22, 2012 7:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Now way to know how this plays out for the Zeros at this point...
but this does bring up an interesting problem for them in that one of the ways they have overcome their geographic disadvantages in terms of recruits is to go flashy. From helmets, to uniforms, hookers as cheerleaders, and their star wars offense they have done a complete overhaul of how they are viewed by the rest of the country. And made themselves relevant to 17 year olds.
Regardless of who they hire, it has to be a guy that can keep that overall sales pitch for the program going. But does that mean they have to hire a guy that has the same offensive philosophies, roughly, as Chipper?
And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'
Ack. *No* way to know
And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'
DC Alliotti is the only guy
that they can name this late to be head coach and salvage some of the recruits, otherwise they are signing to a coachless team. This is Slick/Gilby or Butch Davis/Larry Coker all over again.
I get the idea, but there are other options
They could go with OC Helfrich, or maybe bring back Bellotti as a short-term mentor until Helfrich is ready.
I was under the impression that Bellotti was pushed out the door by Phil.
Would he really want to be doing Oregon that kind of favor now?
by Mind of no mind on Jan 22, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
+1
"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis
by Carne Guisada on Jan 22, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.
Could just be Chip trying to get his piece of that pac12 tv money we’re so liberally throwing around. Even if it’s not, bad form to celebrate before it’s a done deal.
This seems...
to be done
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
That would make him crazi
It’s a week before L.O.I signing day. Would he risk losing his class a week before everybody inks? He’s gone…
All I saw was purple
Completely agree.
Great Point.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
My exact thought this morning.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
If Chip wanted more money - all he had to do was ask
… he didn’t have to go get an offer from Tampa Bay. If money was his end game, this is not the way to do it.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Someone else already suggested it's probably more about being to focus on coaching,
and not have to fiddle w/ college ‘stuff’ like recruiting & alumni glad handing.
For a guy like Chip I suspect it’s also about his ego; wanting to prove to everyone that he is indeed a brilliant (count me a believer) coach at the very highest level, and not just a college trick scheme passing fad . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Combination
More money is nice but really its not to have to deal with recruiting, parents etc. and to get to do more Xs and Os and challenge himself at the highest level.
He reminds me a lot of Belichick.
If you are Chip Kelly . . .
who do you go after to run your offense? Do you try and get Tebow? Locker? RG3?
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Josh Freeman?
There is no guarantee that he’s going to take Oregon’s offense to TB. I’d bet the only real parallel you’ll see is the tempo. Freeman is athletic enough to run the zone read 3-5 times a game.
yep
Remember, DT didn’t run that much this year.
That said, wouldn’t shock me at all to see TB draft RG3 if he’s still there, though it sure seems like everyone thinks the Browns will take him first.
sounds like a recipe for TB trading up with Cleveland
Only one spot behind, so it shouldn’t cost them too much to swap with Cleveland if they want.
Duck fans i know seem to be taking it as true...
…sounds like he’s bailing on pending sanctions and taking the Petey Carroll golden parachute out of town..
Heh hee hee
@eDuckCCourtney Ancillary, but Chip wasn’t happy about Board of Higher Ed ousting Lariviere. Took every chance to say proverbial FU
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Chris Courtney
Been notified tonight that Kelly may want assurances from UO AD Mullens that Mullens will hire his successors from "in-house."
#bowdown
Twitter @ConorBronsdon
Why would Kelly want assurances from Mullens?
Or rather, what exactly would Kelly’s bargaining leverage be? “I’m going to leave. You’d better hire my successor in-house, or I’ll leave even harder”
A Threat
He would hire some of the staff to Tampa Bay with him.
Hmmmm.
Kelly may want assurances from UO AD Mullens that Mullens will hire his successors from “in-house.”
That would mean either Aliotti or Helfrich. This also pleases me.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Both talented but not necessarily slam dunks.
he already "earned" those assurances by waiting til the last second...
…Oregon really has no choice but to go in house in which case the whole of the staff probably stays intact.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
I Concur
I think they make a run at Chris P and Gary P – maybe Dan Mullen as well? But probably end up with in house unless they get one of their top 3.
With this news
My God, LOI day is going to be a pinnacle of insanity the likes of which we’ve never seen.
Just happened upon this piece of news on the Seattle Times:
bcondotta First recruiting fallout of Kelly news? @RGBearTerritory reports Demariay Drew says Ore. just about out of picture and top 2 are UW and Cal
No need for violence over that.
It’s just a game.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Because he's got a family that presumably lives there
and it’s just football. I’m happy to see Duck fans make asses of themselves as well, this is about 10 steps beyond that.
As I said above, I think we have different definitions of what riot means in this sense.
I could care less if there is a huge crowd of people outside of his house or whatever. If they are throwing bricks through the window or some other crap then obviously that would change things.
by UW11Bowdown on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know the source - so I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
It's the U of O student newspaper
And as we all saw with yesterday’s news, they’re not exactly 100% solid.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not so sure that guy could be considered a reliable source
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
It just seems that
Right now, Oregon is a top program. Nike can probably buy them a nice established HC from another school. It seems unlikely that they hire (no offense to Wilcox) a relatively unproven DC as their new coach.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
My thoughts exactly.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Logically speaking, but as I've come to learn when it comes to sports.
Anything can happen.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
It seemed unlikely that Wilcox would jump to UW for a menial raise
it seemed unlikely that Lupoi would spurn his alma matter in a cloak of secrecy and poach recruits.
this is very true,... you haven't groomed him enough, yet. yet. =)
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think the timing is going to work out for the Quack job
Chances are Oregon goes with someone else this time around, and unless he flames out badly – and I’d love to see it – he’ll be there longer than 3 years; if Wilcox is any good, he’ll start getting HC offers in 2-3 years, possibly to OSU or Cal depending on how those hot seats evolve.
I doubt things line up for Wilcox to Oregon.
it's hard to see Oregon making a move for Wilcox right now...
… because they have a DC that I’m sure will stick and they won’t turn the keys over to him as HC.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Agreed.
I have a very hard time seeing Oregon go after Wilcox for HC. He’s pretty young and still has a lot to prove before being a head coach. There are too many other options for Oregon.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Wilcox would be well down their list right now
Once Petersen & Patterson turn them down, I’d bet they go in-house.
I hope they take a long time to get it figure out.
Take a week or two trying to get the big fish in Petersen, just to have him say no. LOI day comes and goes, then they decided to stay in house. Could I be so lucky?
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
here's the nightmare scenario
Petersen says “yes” to Oregon, then Boise State hires Wilcox who brings Lupoi along as his DC.
Not going to happen
Boise will just promote one of their cordinators.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting tweets
JordanPayton Jordan Payton
Lets just say its a done deal now.
RGBearTerritory Ryan Gorcey
Jordan Payton will likely not make an unofficial trip to #cal next weekend
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Those are indicating that he's choosing UW?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Certainly hope so...
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
his tweets all weekend sounded positive
Sure wouldn’t shock me in the slightest if he picks the UW.
On less good news, the trip report for Zach Banner to USC wasn’t very encouraging. I no longer have confidence he’ll pick the UW – sounds like his parents were very comfortable with USC and him going there, and he called it his best trip yet.
Miles says he’s solid, but also says he has some thinking to do. We’ll probably keep him, but he doesn’t sound as solid as he did last week…
U$C trip
Cyler “Zach i’m only here to tell you i’m going to UW and you need to come with me”
Zach “OK Cyler, let’s go down to the beach and see if any bikinis fall off”
Cyler “sounds good to me”
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
one can hope
But I’m not putting my money on it. I think Miles will stick, but Banner – I think he’s a goner now.
dont underestimate
The two of them being there together though. They seem to have become friends. They could decide together.
Ruth now saying
Jordan is VERY serious about udub
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
agreed...
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
She's not wrong that often (more than the reputable sites)
but she’s just such a crappy person and lacks any journalistic integrity. She’s in all likelihood, right about this one.
I wouldn't know.
I only recently learned about her, but I have heard that she’s had some pretty big, and public, misses
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
she's often correct
The bigger issue with her is that when she’s wrong, she’s often wrong in a way that’s damaging to the program. And also sometimes when she’s right…
it would appear
SOunds like he love Seattle. Hung out with KP at the BBall game. Including being on TV.
well, he's not going to be poor
but i have trouble seeing a read option offense succeeding in the nfl. he would have to bring in an established nfl oc to completely run the offense to have a chance
You misunderstand
I mean, from a personal standpoint, theres no way it could go poorly. I don’t care about Tampa at all (or the NFL really) so the only way I see it going poorly is if he fails, is fired in 3-4 years, the Oregon hire also fails at the same time and he ends up back at Oregon.
I'd love to see him run his offense in the NFL . . .
and I’d love to see it succeed. The NFL has gotten to boring and needs some life. I have no clue if it would work, but Tampa Bay will have my attention.
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"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Can't say I'm not happy about this
but damn I wanted to see Sark to beat Chip
Can't write straight...
*See Sark beat Chip
we could hire away your entire staff....
just saying cause its fun to say.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 PM PST reply actions
Good luck with that
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
i dont think we actually want it,
actually, certain of it. but that’s just for now. when you get wilcox groomed well enough, things could change.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not doubting that eventually that might happen
And if it does would also indicate he’s done some really good things here.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
he will do some GREAT things with you. you are very fortunate to have him. great hire.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
i know, im so cliche!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be happy to have you do so
stretch yourself thin by acknowledging your rivals have a better staff than you.
it's happened before, am i right?!
but im not worried about it happening again. at best you could be even with our staff, nothing is better. =)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
I'll give you this...
Pretty sure you will have the headlines at the start of this week, you guys must be tired of seeing UW all over the place.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
actually i think it’s you guys who are happy not seeing UW all over the place. =)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
We've been through quite a ride, but recent news on new coach hires
has been VERY well received! I have no idea how this tumultous recruiting cycle will end, but even if Sark doesn’t pull a few rabbits out of his hat we’re all happy at the prospect of some improvement in defense.
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
wilcox is GREAT. i remember watching him live.
and really, you can only go up. so you should be pleasant come next season, id say
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
You know this is why everyone hates Oregon right?
that you’re so insecure that you feel the need to come troll a rival site on the night your Head Coach quits. He quit at the height of his success, less than 10 days before LOI day, and you’re here at 11pm trying to troll. It’s just lame.
I think it's kinda cute, as long as he's polite.
I’m actually impressed w/ the way Duck fans have taken this, and it’s a nice contrast from Cal.
and if they can’t actually find the next evil genius to replace Kelly, then we will get our chance to return the favor. and yes, I am a homer and assume sark will continue a steady march to improve our program
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
calm down.
it’s a little panic-y over at ATQ for me, thought i’d take in some happy peoples thoughts before i go to bed. im not worried over this at all.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Why not? Chip Kelly was the best thing that ever happened to Oregon.
There is almost no way the replacement will be as good.
by UW11Bowdown on Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
but before chip...
there was bellotti and brooks. the improvement has been constant and impressive. i really can’t wait to see what we do next. it’s very exciting.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps I have a different definition of "trolling"
But usually when someone trolls, his comments are intentionally inflammatory with the clear intent of aggravating those he/she seeks to antagonize.
I think what he’s doing is perfectly acceptable.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
That is the definition of trolling.
He isn’t trolling.
by UW11Bowdown on Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I took this wrong then
we could hire away your entire staff….
just saying cause its fun to say.
That was the first thing he said here
and since, his tone has changed. Without the context of the rest of his chat, it rubbed me the wrong way. I take back the troll comment.
no biggie. it's sports chat. get your blood boilin. =)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
i was totally joking!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire.
by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
BS.
we could hire away your entire staff….
One word: SANCTIONS.
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yeah
As much as I’d love to believe this is the canary in the coal mine, it could very well be that it’s simply Kelly wanting to move on to his next challenge, get paid a lot more and not have to deal with all the extraneous crap (recruiting, NCAA investigations, etc).
My point was . . .
if Kelly and everybody was leaving, the THOUGHT would be sanctions will be bad. Therefore a coach like Sark would never be interested in the position and Quacker Backer’s claim was BS.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Oregon
I think Oregon fans would be surprised about how little interest the job opening would generate.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 23, 2012 9:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Cause it would be really hard to sell the following
- Being the Conference favorite or Co-favorite every year
-Having a Heisman contending true sophomore
-Being in the NC conversation at least every other year
- Depth from 3 consecutive top 15 recruiting classes
- Best Facilities in the Country
- Nike connection
-One of the best gameday environments in the country
-Complete guarantee of financial support
I actually agree with you on this
I’m not sure it’s quite as attractive as Duck fans would like to believe (see the BB coaching search to see how much facilities and Nike matter), but I think you could poach somebody on the level of a Patterson or Petersen. I don’t think Urban Meyer or Mack Brown is going to jump ship, but you could grab a high profile Coach in a battle with other schools.
Outside of the Nike connection
Quite a few schools can make those same claims.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 23, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
This actually reinforces my point...let's look at these other schools that would meet the above criteria
Alabama, LSU, USC (for now), Oklahoma, Ohio State (obviously not this year), and Texas,
What other schools would you add?
Georgia
Florida, Michigan, Virginia Tech, Florida State. It’s awfully presumptuous to assume you’ll continue being in the NC at least every other year, when you’re on a run that is hardly unprecedented. Boise State is in the NC conversation as much as Oregon.
I would agree with Florida except they aren't going to compete with Alabama or LSU until they get QB and a decent offense
- Michigan didn’t belong in the BCS this year and is nowhere close to the NC discussion. Also it will be interesting to see what happens once Robinson leaves
- Virginia tech had an even weaker resume and got boat-raced by the only decent team they played (Clemson) and hasn’t been in the NC discussion for years.
- I actually agree about FSU on that list due to being in a recruiting hotbed and having the chance to win their crappy conference every year. With the amount of talent that team has, it should be much better.
As for BSU, an undefeated Bronco team will never get into the BCS NC over a one loss Big-12, SEC, Big-10, or Pac-12 school. Also they would not meet a couple of the other criteria I listed.
I think it's a better job than we'd like to admit
but I don’t think it’s as good a job as you guys would like to admit.
Probably not (especially with the "significantly" caveat).
But continuing at the same level of success is by no means a given, either.
There is literally no reason that Texas or Florida should’ve fallen as far and as fast as they did. Especially the Longhorns. But they did.
or Oklahoma post-Switzer, or Nebraska post-Osborne, or Alabama post-Bryant...
…etc.
Sustained success is never a given. Especially at a nouveau-riche program like Oregon…
I see them going down yes
Especially since I believe they will have sanctions. I also believe it will harder for them to rebound as quickly as USC was able too. Im not saying a total fall but, out of top 10 yes.
You left out
The at a minimum uncertainty of pending sanctions. I do agree though that it would have a lot of interest. Just not to level you seem to believe.
I'm not sure everyone would agree that Oregon has the best facilities in the country.
Everything outside of Autzen is fantastic. There’s no doubt. But a sub-60,000 seat stadium, no matter how nice, has a perception of being something less than big time. I’m not knocking it. I’ve been there several times. But it just on the small side.
Some of the other things you mention are totally fluid. They’re there now, but aren’t really a “part” of Oregon’s program (nor any program for that matter). But the biggest thing working against Oregon in trying to land a new coach is the lack of an established recruiting base. Kelly has made it work, in large part because what he does is fairly unique. A coach that runs a more traditional offense might have a tougher time establishing a foothold with recruits outside the west coast.
Texas and Ohio State are laughing at the notion that Oregon has the best facilities
As are most of the big-time SEC programs.
Oregon probably has the nicest facilities in the Pac-12, but that edge will be narrowed significantly over the next couple of years as USC, Cal & UW finish up their latest projects.
Compare in what way?
Husky stadium is going to look fantastic after the renovation, but will have absolutely no effect on Autzen’s reputation of being one the best stadiums in the country.
except that we'll have a bigger, nicer and louder stadium
We’ve always had the bigger stadium, and we are louder (when the team is good and the stands are full), and now with the rebuild it will clearly be nicer. It’s always had arguably the best setting in all of college football, but it was starting to show its age in the last decade+. That’s now being addressed in a big way.
What does Stadium size have to do with being able to withstand sanctions?
Ticket attendance is a small portion of the revenue pie when compared to media distribution rights
Yes it's only a 130,000 square foot addition to the Cas Cenrer
And it has started construction. Here is a pic
That's a drawing
Hoffman just started cutting purchase orders last week for this project. As of right now the ground work (civil) might be done but the structure hasn’t started. It’s been over budget for a while but the latest addendum (#16) got the price down to where UO wanted it. It should start going here in the next month or two.
Just got back and read this
SHOCKING to say the least. Oh my god this is a fantastic day.
you should be very concerned what new genius we bring in should you?
i mean, every HC hire seems to turn out better than the last…. just saying
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
that sounds pretty great to me! but time always evolves,... you think you've seen it all, but you never will.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Quacker
This late in the game, it stands to reason it would probably be either Aliotti or Helfrich, no?
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
im a not an insider.
i love aliotti, im not comfortable with helfrich’s demeanor as a HC. but i am not worried at all. i think a back up plan to the back up plan has always been in place. also, i love frost. i really hope we keep him.
plus there is a movement ALREADY, for Dungy…
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hire-Tony-Dungy-At-University-Of-Oregon/165208393587494
this could be fun!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure Tony Dungy is a good thing
guy is a hell of a coach and leader, but could he succeed at the college level? He’s been an NFL coach his entire career and his demeanor doesn’t really seem to work with college kids. Maybe I’m off-base though.
he's around campus and practice always...
but the general thought is this is just fun and games while we wait for the real news….
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I can’t see Dungy enjoying the recruiting thing. He’s too soft a guy.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Tony would not fare well in the today's world of recruiting hijinx. Its not his gig.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
I just don't see the Dungy thing working at Oregon though
I like the guy, I think he’s aces, but as a follow up to Kelly?
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Tony Dungy would DESTROY the Oregon program.
By the time he was done kicking all the potheads off the team, there wouldn’t be anybody left to play a game!
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by Lear Pilot on Jan 22, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you guys are having fun with this tonight! fair enough, you should.
lots of ‘first-impression’ panic going on over on ATQ, but we’re all coming around. our success is 20 years in the making and that takes more than one person. Im kind of excited to see what happens. who will be sark’s nemeses…? you know the rivalry is gonna rock. let’s do it!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:44 PM PST reply actions
i'd say
over 2k comments in 5 hours is impressive, top choice is who Peterson, you think he’ll leave?
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
i would love it.
but the ATQ site seams to be 50-50 on him even considering it. personally, im still a huge bellotti fan and i think eugene is a destination site for any up and comer coach so im excited to see who pops out of the woodwork.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
At this point if you guys get Peterson
The PAC 12 is going to be insane for the next 5-10 years
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
I think CP is a good coach, but I thought that about Hawkins and Koetter as well. Small conference coaches are a crap shoot, even if they’ve proven it a that level before.
Just imagine if all these coaches that have been hired...
Start winning all OOC games and the PAC12 becomes the new power in CFB. CP’s name will create big buzz around the nation and if they all show they can win in this league, it would be a wild ride for sure.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It remains to be seen if Eugene is a "destination" site...
… their success is a new phenomenon and, let’s face it, they haven’t been in a position where they’ve tried to attract the hottest of coaching prospects. This will be telling.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
We sure hoping to be contending in the North Division; gotta improve our line play
against Stanford to get there though . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly
The Oregon program is bigger than Chip Kelly…the only thing for a Duck fan to worry about is the NCAA.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 23, 2012 9:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Slick Rick to Oregon!!!
although not on the “exuberant wish list” being put out there, sources within the Oregon athletic department have indicated that contact has been made with the former UCLA coach.
ESPN radio
Now that's got to be a joke!
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by Carne Guisada on Jan 22, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Can't see Peterson taking the job
I’m sure the Ducks early wish list will be true fantasyland. If Peterson turned down a kings ransom at UCLA, why would he take the Ducks? Who in their right mind will take that job with the NCAA investigation still on-going.
My god. Slick Rick at Oregon. How freaking awesome would that be.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
I REPEAT, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
But imagine what it would do to the rivalry.
Historic wouldn’t even begin to describe it!!!
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"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
I am screen capturing that...
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHA..
Even if it’s a rumor, that’s golden!!
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
now days...
when the university of oregon is hiring,…
who isn’t available….
LOL, okay that was soooooo pretentious. but it was fun. and the set up was right in front of me! =)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Appears 3 years
was enough of Uncle Phil’s Howard Hughes B.S. for St. Kelly to take.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
You do realize you are setting yourself up if Ducks make a good splashy hire, right?
While it’s Husky woofing fun for us to suggest Slick Rick or Ericskon, your AD surely needs to get busy; as you well know the college football treadmill nevers stops . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 22, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
It will always be Eugene
You can wash all you want but you can never remove the smell.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 23, 2012 8:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
kschimke
Not cool, just threw up in my mouth…
by TualatinDawg on Jan 22, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Ty is the only one
who can clean that dirty program. Oh baby….please.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
REC'D
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 22, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 22, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Dry Ty
spent more time on the golf course than recruiting. That’s why he was such a ticking timebomb of garbage.
by Regent Denali on Jan 22, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
So much crazy news in the last week
Hard to even imagine where this division will be next year.
My thanks to Pat Yasinskas at ESPN . . .
Kelly also has a reputation as a disciplinarian
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What reputation? The only reputation he has is: If you are a star player, you don’t get in trouble. But if you are a backup you get kicked off the team!!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
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Wilner's take on this
Jon Wilner’s always interesting ‘Action-Reaction’ regarding this
this can only help the Huskies.
"Attending Washington State is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
Chip is staying
Per Adam Jude at the R-G: BREAKING: Chip Kelly changes his mind, tells a highly placed UO source: “I’m staying.”
As you were.
Go Ducks!
by bwolf4 on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think CGB said it best...Chip: "Yeah, UW, you felt hope right there, didn't you? HAHA ROFL."
/trollingdone
As far as pitching recruits
Turning down an interview looks better than 11th hour backouts. STL has a higher payroll, better foundation and better draft position. Do you know that Chip didn’t formally agree? Reports were that he accepted. Besides, if that’s really one of your arguments (the semantics of “a donovan”), you kind of lost, no?
The reports never said that a deal was done...that seems to be the part you are missing
Also how many wins did St. Louis get with that better foundation and higher payroll?
RG twitter feed said
And I quote “It’s done” with a link to the story. And I believe they got one less, with an injured franchise QB, no WR’s and a braindead OC.
So you are equating a situation where the head coach had a press conference announcing he was leaving to the NBA
to a anonymous sources being quoted at midnight the deal being done?
Yeah
And if it’s true, he had a change of heart after agreeing to the deal. The fact that they didn’t get to the dog and pony show part doesn’t really matter, to me at least. In fact this whole argument is kind of dumb. I said he “pulled a Donovan”. It was a joke, mostly because Donovan was the most high profile “Donovan” that came to mind. If the semantics really matter to you that much, you can have this one.
And for the record
I think TB is a quality job and I had legitimate faith (still do as I think he takes another job by this time next year), that he would have succeed at that job. I think STL is in better position to make a run in the next 2-3 years, mostly because of Bradford. They need some CB help and another WR, but beyond that, they’re set up very well. TB is notoriously cheap and they’ve got some glaring holes, but only the draft to fill them.
ATQ now more concerned about our feelings than their own
As if things aren’t exactly as they were 6 hours ago. Congrats on not losing, must be a big day.
I completely understand why most of these posts were made and Oregon fans probably would have made similar comments if Kiffin left USC
But if Chip does in fact stay, this thread is absolutely amazing.
If you're expecting tears of sarrow, you'll be dissappointed
Do I wish he was gone, yeah. He’s a good coach and I love chaos at Oregon. But by my count, all that happened is Castro decomitted and Chip canceled a visit with the #1 DB in america. He’s now got to explain why he changed his mind at midnight and try to spin it to recruits. Like I said, we’re in the same place as yesterday, but now you guys have far less reason to believe its not going to happen eventually.
Sark turned down an interview for a much better job
Chip took it to the limit and according to reports, took the job before doing “A Donovan”. You’re right, that sounds great to a guy committing 4 years of his life to a school.
I just think it's funny that you expect us to be flabergasted
(Once again)As if anything has changed from 6 hours ago.
Look, the truth is that this whole thing does not reflect well on Chip Kelly at all, you're right. The thing that makes Oregon fans excited right now is just that it's such a massive relief to hear.
Seriously, it’s like waking up after a nightmare. Sure you’re the same as you ever were, just like when you got into bed the night before, but aren’t you relieved it all wasn’t real?
Things like that.
I can imagine
But the prevailing thought that “I bet UDP is sooo pissed lolol!!!!11” is stupid. And since I don’t want to say it on ATQ, Matt Daddy is an insufferable sub-sophomoric prick who wouldn’t know class if it rec’d him right in the Wheaton Wave. He really thinks highly of himself.
Exactly.
We are right back where we started, but Chip Kelly did add some instability to the Oregon program AND it looks like he lost a recruit or two in the process. Well done Chip!
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"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Which recruit did Oregon lose? Castro? He comitted to UCLA on Saturday so it was completely unrelated to yesterday's situation
Drew never actually had an offer
I don't thjink we'll ever know if the swirling rumors really impacted Oregon recruiting
unless one of the big names commits elsewhere.
by HuskyInExile on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
We never had Shaq. Any Duck fan who thought we'd get Shaq would have been kidding themselves.
Things like that.
more like Oregon probably isn't in the Shaq sweepstakes
There had been talk that Oregon was coming on as a darkhorse 3rd contender, but it’s probably down to Cal vs. UW.
De'Anthony Thomas
At this point last year, people thought he was a USC lock.I get ver nervous any time Oregon enters the picture this late.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 23, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I was wondering if that was you
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by Carl Shinyama on Jan 23, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
hard to imagine Cal is out of it...
…unless the rumors are true that (for some reason) his mom does NOT want him at Cal.
The Thompson family was not ecstatic with how that entire stuation went down for both UW and Cal which is why Oregon got brought back into the picture
Apparently Shaq has completely stopped talking to Bryce Treggs and wants to talk with DAT about his time at Oregon.
and he's traded texts with Lawyer Milloy too
Sounds pretty fishy to me to say that the Thompsons weren’t happy with the UW about how the situation went down – what would they object to about what the Huskies did?
that was part of it, yes
And just so we’re clear, if that was an NCAA violation, it was of the most minor variety.
So there is a bunch of things here first - Interviewing and actually being offered the position are completely
Second – How is St. Louis a better situation than Tampa Bay?
Third – Billy Donovan actually formally accepted the Orlando job whereas the Kelly situation was battle of anonymous sources.
What do you expect from 12 year olds?
Twin Putz’s.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 23, 2012 8:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Stay or Go
This just opens the floodgates for those negative recruiters. No way can a PSA truly believe CK will stay for the 4/5 years that they are committing to the school.
Agree
While you might not see the top tier recruits re-opening on this news a few may very well do so. Players the Ducks already felt were total commits. And it does raise the question about how long Chip will stick around.
by Regent Denali on Jan 23, 2012 2:53 AM PST up reply actions
So, Chip isn’t leaving Oregon
Kelly is intrigued by the challenge of coaching at the highest level and not having to deal with parents and the NCAA oversights that are inherent to coaching in college, the source told Schad. — ESPN
Chip needs to do some immediate damage control.
exactly
While I’m disappointed – the chaos of seeing what will happen to Oregon when Kelly leaves is going to be highly entertaining – let’s not pretend that things are the same as they were 24 hours ago in Eugene.
We now all know that Kelly aspires to coach in the NFL; we know he damn-near took a job last night; we know that there are many aspects of coaching at the college level that he doesn’t like; we know he canceled some in-home visits last night.
Whether Duck fans want to admit it or not, there will be repercussions from this – there’s a lot of material there for opposing coaches to exploit in recruiting against the Ducks.
Well we certainly hope so. Have to note Duck fans responded with much greater
confidence & composure over rumors about their HC than did Cal fans about their position coaches.
by HuskyInExile on Jan 23, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Not surpised
He’s never seemed to enjoy the television interviews and fielding reporters’ questions… Not that those would decrease in the NFL, but if he doesn’t like that aspect, I doubt he likes shmoozing with boosters and parents.
by Christopher Merimee on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
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