Puppy Chow
by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 8:01 AM PST
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Yesterday was interesting wasn't it?
We started the day with the news that Brandon Beaver had tweeted that he hadn't committed to anyone and was upset that the information was leaked because he still hadn't truly made up his mind. I still think Beaver will end up being a Husky but I think he really wants to make the announcement on his terms.
There was a lot of finger pointing among the recruiting sites concerning this one but to be fair it seems like Beaver is as responsible for his own PR as anyone else since he tends to telegraph every move he makes with a tweet. My advice...have fun Brandon...take your time...you only get to do this once.
I also want to mention another thing...and that is ripping a recruit if he ends up going somewhere else or is simply vacillating. Don't do it because it will earn you a long time out that might stretch past LOI day. Be mature enough to respect these kids when they are about to make the biggest decision of their lives.
One interesting kid to follow has been KeiVarae Russell. I think it is cool that he ended up choosing a school that is 2000 miles away from where he lives. I never blame a local kid for picking a Notre Dame or Stanford....it isn't like he picked Oregon.
What I do find really puzzling is the non stop chatter about a hate for UW since he committed to ND. He even recently reached out to Cedric Dozier advising him not to look at Washington even though the two coaches who had recruited him had accepted positions on the staff.
Happy 3000 Day
Yesterday according to ATQ marked the 3000 day anniversary of the last time Washington had defeated Oregon in football. Our friends at ATQ celebrated by spamming our web site with rec's which turned our message boards green.
It was initially pretty funny until it overwhelmed our boards and took on a completely disrespectful and nasty tone from their posters. I asked for some help from the management of ATQ because it was getting out of hand but didn't get it. Since they had instigated and supported the attack I took it directly to SBN.
One thing we have always done since day one is welcome the contribution of members from other Pac 12 blogs. We have had an open door policy over the years which has really improved the overall content of our site. I think it is unfortunate that we won't have that with Oregon fans anymore.
I spent two hours cleaning up the mess and I banned a total of 36 ATQ posters. Going forward we are just going to ignore them. If anyone here does retaliate or pulls any funny business on their site it will earn you a time out over here and probably a ban over there.
Keep in mind that football games are played on the field and not in the stands.
California Dreaming
It has to suck to be a Cal fan this week and I can surely commiserate with those guys because we have all been there done that in recent memory. If a Cal fan needs to come over here and vent...well more power to them because they have a very credible issue to be pissed off about.
Losing two top recruiting coaches a couple of weeks before LOI day while they were putting together one of the top classes in the country is a disaster. Losing those two coaches to a team in your own division is just mind boggling.
Lupoi is a guy that Cal had groomed since almost the day he was born. He grew up in the neighborhood. He went to DeLasalle. He has spent his entire playing and coaching life at Cal. He was a young version of Jim Lambright. He was held to a different standard of rules by Cal fans.
How do you immediately recover from that? I guess we are going to find out over the next couple of weeks how Jeff Tedford deals with that.
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1) First
2) Oregon = Scared
3) KeiVarae – not sure what to make of this. The only thing I can come up with is tat deep down inside the kid wants to go to UW but since his mom doesn’t want him to he is now trying to convince himself and others it’s not the place to be. Too bad. He’d look good in Purple & Gold.
He needs to be careful . . .
It’s one thing to pick another school, it’s completely different to recruit AGAINST your local school.
Rule #1 in life – Don’t burn a bridge that you might need later.
It wouldn’t be fun to apply for your dream job back near your family, just to find out the employer happens to be a huge Husky booster that happens to remember that you were doing harm to the program they love. Is it a stretch? Probably. Is it easier to find a job in this area if you were a Husky football player? Probably.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
yeah, it's not a good idea of him to burn bridges here
I have no idea if Russell intends to live in the area long-term (he may not either), but his actions right now could come back to haunt him if he does end up living here. I don’t get his need to trash the UW on Facebook to other recruits – just not a mature thing to do.
Let's move on...
I will not trash a kid/recruit and I’m not sure what happened during his recruitment and at this point it’s pointless. It’s really time to move on.
All I saw was purple
recruits
I spent a lot of time over the past 24 hours defending recruits. Thanks for saying something in a story. I think all the uwdawgpound members know now what is acceptable. We also had Cal fans misquoting the Tosh-Thompson saga, which I didnt like seeing on our board. I have made about a half dozen comments on rival teams blogs. I read more if it but I have just always left the comments to them.
Thanks John
You’re right on, we just need to let it blow over. We’ve got too much to be excited about to get all worked up about a few Oregon fans from one site. I talked to a few of my Oregon friends who were very embarrassed by what happened. Thanks for taking the time to clean it up as best you can.
Go Dawgs!
by I'mSureI'veSeenWorse on Jan 19, 2012 8:24 AM PST reply actions
They Moderate
It is like Kindergarten…what they do is get both sides to agree to ignore each other. If they do have to say something about each other it is supposed to be positive. The usual basic rules for getting along successfully in a civilized community of peers with a similar interest.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
I like how JTLight ignored the opportunity to defuse the situation
… because he was too afraid to have a man to man with you on the phone. His excuse was “he didn’t have time” despite the fact that he a) had time to write the email and b) he burns hours every day on ATQ.
But, he is a kid and we have a whole generation of youngsters who have grown comfortable hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet and have no sense of how grown people handle difficult situations.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
This is not merely a generational issue.
It’s a disconnect between the communities. I, for one, am a ‘youngster’ (22) and had the same negative reaction to the entire episode.
Different communities have different taboos and ideas of what is funny. Uwdawgpound and ATQ have very different vibes.
It was rather rude and self-aggrandizing of ATQ to first assume that we would find the whole green/wheaton wave thing amusing, and then after we were annoyed shift the blame to us and claim we simply lack humor.
Oh mighty ATQ, we’re sorry that we’re not the great arbiters of humor that you are!
Great Point! I recently found out the hard way.
“Different communities have different taboos and ideas of what is funny. Uwdawgpound and ATQ have very different vibes.”
I made a fool of myself at CGB blog by joining in the mocking they were doing to themselves, which was a big mistake. I did not intend to be ‘mean,’ but clearly did not understand them; and it’s not obvious to me that I will ever understand them . . . they have a very good coach, have had several very good seasons recently, have a lot of talent on the team, and I would think pretty good chance of near term success. and it is probably the finest public univeristy in the country.
- yet they temselves play a weird ‘DOOOM’ game . . .
Best Regards,
by HuskyInExile on Jan 20, 2012 4:38 AM PST up reply actions
From reading through your guy's boards
it looked like it was a few knuckleheads taking a harmless prank too far. Which is what always happens.
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 19, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Ohhhh
ouch
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 19, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
It could have just been a misunderstanding.
He is a duck, so maybe John told him to call at noon and what he acutally said was “I can’t tell time”.
by Mind of no mind on Jan 19, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
It isn’t truly generational… It is the case of a couple of punks that don’t have any courage or integrity. The behavior they exhibit is pretty typical of young Duck fans in general.
JT had the opportunity to be a stand up guy and he passed on it. You find that type of characteristic in people who get off on ringing doorbells and running away.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Chris Polk...very interesting
From Ted Miller’s Blog at ESPN…
Huskies running back Chris Polk is one of the invitees. It turns out that Polk’s announcement that he would bypass his senior season and enter the draft was purely academic: Polk is actually a senior.
From the Senior Bowl press release:
Polk was extended a Senior Bowl invite after it was determined that he had exhausted his eligibility at Washington. Despite being listed as a junior, he never applied for a medical redshirt his freshman year (2008) and thus had no more eligibility remaining.
"We made sure that we followed proper protocol before we invited Chris and that entailed getting everything cleared through the NFL and Coach Sarkisian at the University of Washington," Senior Bowl President and CEO Steve Hale said. "Once it was determined that Chris had exhausted his eligibility at Washington there was no question we wanted him on our roster. He is an excellent player and has a bright future in the National Football League."
Wow
How did that happen? I swear he redshirted. Anyway, good luck to him. Go CP1!
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Paperwork
They usually never submit it till the fifth year anyway.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Got ya
Then that would make sense. I would really love to see Chris in a Seahawk uni next season. They have a filled up backfield but still, here’s to dreaming!
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Not really. Forrset is a FA and if they could get Polk in the 2nd or 3rd round he would make a great complement to Lynch.
by UW11Bowdown on Jan 19, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I like that
I figured Pete would keep Forsett along with Marshawn. Lynch is also a free agent and he loves his buddy Justin. I wouldn’t mind having CP1 and Marshawn instaed of Forsett.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
No Way
Lynch and Polk are on the same team. They are similar runners not complementary. Seahawks have way to many other needs to use a 2nd rounder on a RB.
The Seahawks are loaded with depth.
Outside of a pass rusher and a long-term high-caliber quarterback, the Seahawks have few needs.
John Schneider drafts exceptionally well in the later rounds. If the Seahawks have needs, they can be addressed even after the 2nd round.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 19, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
They're in good shape with both corps
Neither are areas of need. At least, not to the point where the Seahawks should not spend their 2nd rounder on a EB.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 19, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Forsett is a free agent this year. Washington is about to be on the wrong side of 30.
If RB is not addressed in free agency, especially in-house, look for the Seahawks to draft some running backs. If Chris Polk is available, and they din’t have someone rated higher than him, regardless of position, they will draft him in the 2nd round if need be.
Outside of Giacomini, the Seahawks’ starting-caliber O-linemen are all returning. They are stable there and they have depth. Same at WR. Theyhave spent. A 3rd rounder, a second rounder, and two first rounders on O-linemen. Are you suggesting that the Seahawks should spend yet another high draft on an O-lineman?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 19, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think They will look
at RB later on. 4-5 round. I am suggesting they might spend another pick on an OL. I think Oline is very important. But I looked at what other people think and some expert tend agree with so. Maybe they do get Polk.
Walter Football
The mock I researched has them take an RB in the 2nd and OL in the 3rd so I may not be totally off either
third
Seattle Seahawks: Nate Potter, OT/G, Boise State
Seattle’s offensive line was ravaged by injuries this season, so the team will be looking for a utility lineman who can play multiple positions. Nate Potter could do that, and he might be able to take over at left guard eventually.
I would not be surprised to see a WR drafted early.
Or not at all. Either a high talent/ceiling guy, or stick with the solid though not electric corp we have now.
I would be shocked to see more than one late OL drafted, and maybe none at all.
We NEED a RB2 for sure, and there is a chance, albeit small, that Lynch leaves.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I have some concerns about Polk's speed that might prevent him from going in the 2nd round.
We’ll see how he times out at the combine, but while I love Polk for his grit I’m not sure his top gear is going to play well in the pros.
That is his weakness for sure
And why the posters that think is a first rounder are dead wrong. He could drop to third round but i still think its a second. Not a deep RB draft either.
I disagree.
A similar styled back is critical to our rushing game. We lose Lynch to an injury right now, we’re done in offensively. A strong and similar backup would be ideal, not a waste of resource capital.
I would not at all be surprised to see Polk or another similar styled runner drafted to join the Hawks.
Unless, that is, if we go after mike bush from oakland in free agency.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly,
see the Cleveland game for a perfect example. We could have won that game, even with Charlie, if Lynch had not been injured. Forsett and Washington are good at what they do, but they are not starting caliber RBs.
by Mind of no mind on Jan 21, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Chris could really raise
his NFL draft stock with a decent Senior Bowl performance.
by Saltherring on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
Seems like he doesn’t get the credit he deserves. I see him rated highly by some and left out by others. This guy is a beast, a monster if you will. He has good speed, power, lowers his shoulders well, great vision and patience, and very soft hands. This guy could be very good in the NFL, where backs now have to be more than a runner. I think, whatever team gets him, it’s gonna be a great pickup.
Maybe if my Seahawks can’t pick him up, thre Patriots can. I like the Pats and it would be cool for Chris to be in a great football environment, good for his career. It would be kinda cool to see him as a Titan with Jake Locker. They could get rid of Chris Johnson and sign a real running back. It’s going to be interesting, but let’s hope he is a Seahawk come April.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
They just paid the hell out of CJ
there is no way they’re going to dump him before the end of next year.
As much as I hate it
The broncos make a ton of sense in the second round. But I could go out training camp in my Polk jersey and I am sure that would get his attention.
I don't want Polk's accomplishments
being swallowed up by Tebow mania and his few accomplishments.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I drive by the broncos facility everyday
See players, executives around all the time. The Tebowmania is driving me crazy. Imagine what Denver sports radio is like. It is unlistenable.
I could only imagine
ESPN is definitely more unwatchable than ever before. I wouldn’t be able to handle Denver sports radio.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 20, 2012 3:24 AM PST up reply actions
Eww.
Even lewis and floorwax are better than that…
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
It always was.
4 years there myself. Arvada and westy. Great town minus the broncos factor.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Assuming he can keep his 40 below 4.55
he can still wind up in the second round. He can push himself to late first if he runs 4.4 to 4.45. That’s what I’ve heard as the biggest knock on him is breakaway speed, if he can show it, he’ll lock up his place.
These bowls are invaluable for their practices.
NFL coaches get to watch the way these players not only play, but practice
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 19, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Only two real knocks against Chris
in NFL eyes.
1. The two shoulder surgeries are going to be looked at very carefully.
2. He may have been too effective in college, and he racked up a lot of carries.
With that said, I still expect him to go 2nd round, which is about as high as RBs go in this day-and-age.
The Keivarae Russell "thingy" is just a kid being idealistic..and that's fine
and there’s probably alot more “heat” than “light” with the negativity coming out there? Don’t know what it’s all about but 99% of the time it’s just a teenager who has very little life experience getting pulled at from all sides by the recruiting “business”…with very few able to offer “wisdom” to his recruiting options? He may have heard alot of negative recruiting and his mom being a mom defaulted to “protection mode”? Sadly, sending her boy to a place far far away that has mastered the art of Hype,salemanship and tradition over substance. I wouldn’t entrust my child to a Coach (Kelly) who handled the situation-tragedy the way he did where a kid actually died! What a scuzball snakeoil peddler! I sure hope he reconsiders while there’s time to “be a Dawg”!
Brandon Wilson
Looks like he might have picked a bad weekend to be in Seattle.
Nice week to hang in the Dempsey
Rain doesn’t help recruiting but snow doesn’t seem to hurt at all. Most of the kids like it and a kid from Louisiana might be pretty fascinated with the change.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve never been too Eastern Michigan, but I would assume that Seattle is way nicer than Michigan. Even in January.
Actually...Michigan...
Actually the entire state of Michigan with the exception of Detroit is wonderful!
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Midwest weather sucks
but outside some neighborhoods I’ve found myself in out there, it’s not a bad region.
I can not disagree with this more.
My impression of the state was that anywhere outside a 20 mile circle of Ann Arbor gave off the impression of slowly rotting to nothing. Ann Arbor was pretty nice though.
I lived in Michigan two years ago. Near Ann Arbor
Very pretty countryside, but the weather swings between frigid winter and sweltering summer. And I’ve never had to sweat through a tornado warning before.
It is flat as hell, though, which makes the snow driving a lot easier.
The downside is that Detroit is a sprawling, rotting disaster. It’s insane how much space that city occupies, yet comparatively how few people occupy it. Detroit is caught in a never ending downward cycle where it can’t get its tax base up because no one wants to live there, so more people leave, and the problem gets worse and worse.
I've been told they are considering selling part of the city to a conglomerate
Privatizing the civil services to improve efficiency. Well, until the japanese stage a hostile takeover.
by Drew_D on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Frankly
The best thing they could do is demolish half the city (don’t worry, it’s deserted, anyway) and replace it with urban farming or just leave it fallow and allow nature to return. In a generation or two, they can turn it into some kind of national park, and that might give Detroit an industry worth having.
Western and Northern Michigan
It is pretty amazing and competes pretty well with Washington State in scenic beauty and outdoor recreation opportunities.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Except they don't have any evergreens...
so it looks like crap during the winter. Great fall color though.
"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis
by Carne Guisada on Jan 19, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
spent most of a year planning and working an outage at Palisades Plant,
living in an apt in South Haven. Very pretty area. Weird watching the sun set over Lake Michigan; fresh water lake that stretches past the horizon.
by HuskyInExile on Jan 20, 2012 4:43 AM PST up reply actions
Robo Cop
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I have a lot of family that lives there and I completely disagee.
Bad weather, horrible economy, completely lacking in outdoor activities compared to the NW. The food, beer, and wine scene also has a lot to be desired. With that said, things get much better the farther you head north and UP is awesome.
I Marquette....Traverse, Petoskey, and Mackinaw are all amazing....
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
snow will be gone more than likely by the time they get here
It will be rain for the most part, unfortunately.
What's a "rec"
I know it doesn’t have anything to do with football, but niether did a couple of hundred comments yesterday.
by dawgdude on Jan 19, 2012 9:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Good question
I never really knew the answer and someone feel free to correct me. A rec is you recommending a comment. Basically you are saying this is a great comment. I’m not sure what you recommend it to, but that’s what I think the idea of it is.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
Click on actions and you can rec a subject...
t turns it green so it is more noticeable…when everything is green it is pretty distracting.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Aaaand...
If you are on a mobile device, chances are you can’t rep and never saw the options..
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 9:07 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
What did I miss, what is this "crazy ruth" business?!?
Fill me in someone.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 20, 2012 9:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I've only just learned about it recently myself.
Apparently, there’s a woman named Ruth who covers recruiting (and has been published by Dawgman?) who is a nuisance both to recruits and the UW staff, because she’s always trying to get the scoop from them and hassles recruits and is combative to them and others, when she doesn’t or when people criticize her.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Kirk can fill you in much better than I can.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
That’s just terrible.
Good to know, though.
I've put away the whiskey and the chainsaw and gone responsible. I'd like to say "Danny Kelly made me do it!" but that would be a lie. I chose to shave, put on a suit and tie and pretend I'm more important than I really am...
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 21, 2012 1:27 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
K. Russell
Firstly, I think most of you guys are insane to be so passionate about recruiting.
Second, so Russell is peeved that people are ripping him for choosing ND for “the biggest decision of his life”, yet he can casually suggest that Dozier not consider UW because some of their fans are mean? This is the pinnacle of contradictory.
Third, see point 1.
Hi Meek
I haven’t seen you in awhile…good to see you my man!
Recruiting is a fascinating sideline for quite a few of us. I don’t tend to get too emotional when we lose someone because there is always another guy to take his place.
The Russell thing is puzzling because I didn’t really see a huge public outcry of sorrow when he decided to head elsewhere.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Lack of outcry might have been the problem
the big boys are getting more attention. Hard to believe it wasn’t that long ago that nobody knew who they were until Wayne Cody talked about them in February.
it may be contradictory, but it's life
Is it hypocritical for some Dawg fans to rip Russell for his decision and then be pissed when he tells other recruits on Facebook to not go to the UW? Yeah, probably.
It’s still not a very wise move on his part though – why burn bridges in your home town? Why not try to be more mature than the Dawg fans that are acting petulant?
First I've heard of this
What was said on his facebook, if anyone knows?
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 19, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
my understanding
I don’t stalk recruits’ Facebook pages so I didn’t see it first-hand, but allegedly Russell posted something on Dozier’s wall telling him not to go to the UW – this was after both Lupoi & Kiesau joined and Dozier indicated he may be open to other schools again.
Hmm..
Just curious as to what would prompt such an attack by Russell, already knowing some people are upset at his choice of ND.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 19, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
probably because of that
That he was vilified by a certain segment of the fanbase for his choice (and how & when he chose to do it) probably is leading to him now carrying a grudge against the school, the same way that Walker Williams apparently does.
Some out there don’t think comments on message boards, Twitter, etc. about recruits has any impact on recruiting, others say “maybe it does, but it shouldn’t” – I think this is just further evidence that it does have some impact, and regardless of whether it should or not, we as fans should be more tactful when commenting on the decisions these kids make.
probably because he didn't choose the UW and the response that generated
He took a lot of shots from a segment of the fanbase for his choice (and particularly how and when he announced), and much like Walker Williams, he appears to be holding a grudge now.
I know there are some that don’t think fan comments on message boards, blogs, Twitter, etc make any difference in recruiting, and some that just say “well, it shouldn’t affect their decision, we’re no different than any other fanbase, etc”, but to me this is further evidence that such talk does have an impact (whether it should or not), and we as fans should really think about whether trashing a kid publicly is worth the potential fallout.
I can't decide which of these to respond to!
I feel like that trend is only going to get worse. The Internet is a terrible place. But at the same time, it’s going to happen with basically every school with good in-state prospects, so maybe it all balances out in the end.
I think the last couple of days have proved it enough for me
I think it’s very evident now that these forms of communication can/are most of the time be harmfull. Not sure how to end it since kids won’t be cancelling their twitters/facebook and rabid fans won’t stop bugging them. Seems like anyone could pretend to be a fan of a school just to follow a recruit and then constantly be negative to make the recruit think twice about where he wants to go.
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 19, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
That whole Oregon thing yesterday
was at first fun. I gotta admint, those Ducks got us. Then it got very annoying, I felt like a few of us were in a fight with those guys. I would never go to another team site to throw things in people’s face about losing or anything. Some fans stoop to that level, I’m better than that. I take sports in general very seriously and I don’t need someone piling on after my team loses. I have something called “class”. I’ve always heard nasty things about Duck fans. Growing up for most of my life in Tx, I don’t see it. Well, I got a good taste of it yesterday. Sorry I got in on the mix with them. Even our loving everyday contributing duck Kalon was in on the mix. It was a bunch of crap. Thanks for taking care of that guys.
The Ducks did get us...
I am driving in the car getting emails from Lear and the guys saying we are under attack. I have guys asking for temporary mod authority to stop the green and the madness. It was pretty funny until it got completely out of hand with the usual baiting and nasty comments.
I just didn’t have time to deal with it yesterday and it pissed me off. Going Duck free isn’t a bad thing. Maybe I will extend mod privileges to Nestor.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
the only issue I have is the refusal to defuse the situation once it was clear it was out of hand - that was chickenshit
..and, of course, the ripping of JB – the guy who had to clean up the fucking mess – as “immature”.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Who did that?
I must have missed that part.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 20, 2012 3:26 AM PST up reply actions
It was somewhat amusing until
the ‘Wheaten Wave’ started.
At that point, it became extremely obnoxious.
Happy 30,000th Day
Oregon celebrating there 30,000th day since their National Championsh—,Wait! They don’t have one.
My attempt at humor
by Juneautom on Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM PST reply actions 13 recs
I will rec that!
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Armstead Brothers
John, heard any rumblings about these guys? They do seem to keep delaying things. Maybe Sark pulls a Rabbit out of his visor. By the way, the visor look is not a good one.
You can bet
That Tupoi is doing all he can to land Arik, but I wouldn’t hold your breath.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
almost no chance
Armond won’t be given a release to allow him to play right away at the UW, and Arik has used up all his official visits (none of which were UW).
Notre Dame seems likely if they want to play together; if not, don’t be surprised if Arik picks Oregon.
Oregon
I’m hearing that too, unfortunately.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
3 days ago
biggins confirmed to me that it was between ND and Auburn and thats it. ANd now that the decision was placed on hold I am hearing Oregon. I am not so sure.
The only reason they were considering those schools was that they would allow Armond to transfer for the upcoming season without sitting out a year
It eventually got too complicated and the family decided they wanted Arik to be closer.
Armond
would be given a release to Oregon but not Washington? Not that I think UW is in play.
I think their actions show that they were going choose Cal though until Tosh left. I made a statement yesterday saying I bet Arik wish he had another visit left.
Oregon for Arik, not Armond
Arik is announcing on LOI day, Armond is headed back to USC to do some grad work and will transfer in the fall.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Per conference rules, any player transfering from one Pac-12 school to another must sit out a year.
That’s why Armstead family started looking out of conference
Was under the impression it was a Pac-12 rule specifically, but one likely followed by the other conferences as well.
A Pac-12 spokesman confirmed Friday that the senior, who missed the 2011 season with an undisclosed medical condition, would be forced to sit out one year to meet conference transfer guidelines.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
You are thinking of two different sets of rules
The NCAA rule wouldn’t apply to Armstead as he will be graduating this year and can enroll at a graduate program at another school.
The Pac-12 rule still would apply as athletes have to sit out a year regardless of graduation status when transferring within the Pac-12
as long as his current school doesn't have the same grad program, no?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Recruiting trail
I wish I could be a fly on the wall with Wlcox, Sirmon and Lupoi right now. They must be logging some serious air miles and dashboard time. Gotta believe Sark told them “Welcome aboard” and then “see you in Seattle on LOI day…not a day sooner”. So excited to have them all onboard and hopeful they can make an immediate impact on recruiting.
I'm looking forward to the day....
We are making a push on Oregon’s players AND it making an impact. I don’t think those days are far ahead.
Huh?
We are making a push on Oregon’s players
Tosh to UW is actually helping Oregon. Both Armstead and Thompson were Cal locks until Lupoi left and now Oregon has a great shot at Armstead and Thompson. Add in Shittu getting back in touch with the ducks and Oregon’s recruiting got a massive boost.
I agree
with Lupoi helping Oregon on Armstead. I dont’ believe I’ve ever heard he was ever seriously considering Washington. But I disagree that Oregon has a better shot with Thompson, I’m sorry. What I meant being able to push Oregon on players is that we haven’t been in a great position to do the past 10 years. But with Sark stabalizing the ship and now solidifying the defensive coaching and recruiting capabilities of our staff, kids are taking notice. It will pay dividends. We haven’t been all that strong in recruiting (primarily on the defensive side of the ball) outside of Washington for a long time. I think those days are over
Oregon may be the beneficiary
Of Armstead, Shittu and Thompson. I agree with the long term benefit but it may help oregon more this year.
Greg Biggins twitter
Recruiting is fluid and a lot can change by the day, but of as now, #Cal is running No. 3 for Thompson
DB Shaq Thompson will not take a visit to #UCLA this weekend, #Washington doing very well, #Oregon making a move
Biggins via twitter
He also cancelled an OV to UCLA
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Am I banned?
Just curious, I didn’t take part, but have a Quack in my handle. Just a mic check.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Feel free to ban me
I’m actually in the “yesterday’s event was a bit excessive from the ATQ folks” camp but it’s understandable that y’all want to keep this Duck free for a while.
Stop being reasonable!
We’re trying to hate you!
We're not very good haters.
Visit CGB or BN blogs . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 20, 2012 4:50 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't ban everyone...
…with an association to the Oregon Ducks. PPilot is still alive and kicking. Skyo12 and QuackinAK are another couple of guys that I consciously chose not to ban or give a time out to. There are plenty of other survivors paddling with web feet in the pound pond.
The whole idea of our blog is to have intelligent conversation about Pac 12 football with an emphasis on UW. We love anyone who brings some good insight into the conversation.
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As a fervent member of ATQ...
We’re (mostly) sorry to have caused such a mess. It was supposed to be all in good fun, and was not intended to cause headaches.
We look forward to meeting you on the field of battle once again. :)
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
@jblair26
the upside is...
…I finally discovered the wonder of the Z key function on these boards. So it had a benefit!
I think most of us were mildly amused until the entire 'wheaton wave' thing.
There was no cleverness to that. It was annoying trolling, pure and simple. It got worse when your community proceeded to rip into us and JB for not responding in the way you wanted.
Yeah, I wasn't there for it.
I agree the Wheaton Wave thing was over the top. As far as I know, the idea was just to turn your board green for the day. ;) I’m guessing “that guy” ruined it for everyone by getting the trolling started.
Of course, all it takes is a couple of people to go overboard to ruin the whole thing for everyone. Like I said, I think we’re mostly sorry.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
@jblair26
by M. Fletcher on Jan 19, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
and we look forward to *finally* being able to worthy of your worry on the field.
It’ll happen; not sure how soon. Recent coaching hires are a step in the right direction.
by HuskyInExile on Jan 20, 2012 4:51 AM PST up reply actions
On to what ifs!
If UW starts to get an overabundance of commits from players UW Dawgpound readers really would like. Which would be the first already committed players to be dropped to make room? Unfair question I know.
I'm no expert in that area...but my understanding is
There’s alot of room in the Dawghouse this class? Anyone?
I would expect a pretty full class
I think they’ll take around 25 if they can get the guys they want.
I keep hearing up to 28
…plus we got a freebee with Kneip…I also heard that maybe we go with a walk on FG kicker.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 19, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty large class
Exciting to think about which 10 recruits will be added to the current list. The next 2 weeks are going to be unreal…
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
My understanding is
We do still have room for 7-8 players. Plus Montana left. There are early enrollments, gray shirts, etc. Dont expect any attrition from a top player in this class.
UW has 18 commits, I believe.
If it’s true they can take up to 28 this, not including Montana’s departure, they have room 10 more
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
sounds about right
Thompson,
Payton
Beaver
Banner
Brostek
Lawler
Dejon Allen
Michael Barton
Luke Kaumatule
Dozier
yeah that should do it
I'd like to see some OL and a solid LB (Barton) come in
Holding out hope that Brostek won’t be another legacy with problems about the UW.
The Allen kid from Dominguez sounds interesting. Wilcox and Lupoi were in-home with Kal commit Michael Bartonl I think they really want an OLB that can come in and add much needed depth along with MLB Rodgers.
Sirmon got good production out of Maggitt/Johnson/Johnson though Curt and A.J were 4 Star kids.
Banner & Brostek
I’d feel much better about this class if we can close on Banner, Brostek & Eldrenkamp. Shaq would be icing on the cake.
Absolutely agree
That would be a fine stable of road graders.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Blog Editorial on the Crazy Ruth situation - Ignore if you've already seen this
In conclusion, this town isn’t big enough for two recruiting sites. One has to go and while Dawgman looks bad today that option is clearly Crazy Ruth. Husky booster Bill Fleenor has stated Steve Sarkisian and Huskies athletic director Scott Woodward aren’t happy with crazy Ruth and her credentials might be finally revoked which is a move that has been long overdue. At some point these guys need to have a soul and let these kids celebrate the moment. Unless these kids personally say to them they are going to their school they should remain quiet..
Waaay OT, but I have no words for this...
Evidently the Cougar Mascot Offensive to Women
I’m officially afraid the Husky mascot is now offensive to large people…
Yeah this one takes it just a weeeee bit too far.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 19, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is funny stuff
I wonder why Jennifer Toomer-Cook took offense to the word…
Rosebowl titles last 90 years, UW 8, UO 1...
Twitter @DAWGFATHER91
by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 19, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
We should start a movement . . .
Occupy USC . . . . . Trojan must be the most offensive nickname I can think of, I definitely don’t want my kids to here that on the TV!!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Cedric Dozier is visiting WSU this weekend..
If he commits to them… I don’t even …
Yeah, I despise the Cougars more than any other Pac-12 team and I don’t want them getting any top-end in-state talent, especially in a year when UW has missed out on a number of them.
Arik Armstead now opening up recruiting to Washington according to Scout
Doubt he would come up here, but I’ll take whatever percent chance we have now at him over the 0% a week ago.
He'd probably wouldn't fit in the front of a Lear Jet
I’m 6’2" and I barely fit! That being said, I’ll pick him up, IF he commits, then I’ll let him fly on the way home!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Recruiting
Bryce Treggs has stated that Shaq wants to go out of state now.
Beaver has supposedly rescheduled his OU trip.
and Oklahoma State is the clear leader for Mickens
Good news on Shaq though, and unless Sark revokes his offer, I’m very confident Beaver will remain a Dawg.
Speculation that he did
because Beaver cancelled at least his OU trip this weekend. He may have cancelled UA next weekend as well. That is the last weekend for officials before signing day.
yeah, Sark might be putting a little pressure on Beaver
Also, not sure if I should be posting this, but it sounds like RB Brandon Wilson out of Louisiana is no longer visiting this weekend and may not have an offer any more. No idea what the story is, but it’s too bad – his film was very impressive.
Isn't he the one with the history of injuries?
I’m wondering if that played into the decision, or if they found somebody closer to home?
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
I Really love this kids highlight Video...total player
Unless there’s something that came out regarding a lingering health/injury issue? Weather issues would’ve been the guess if they just cancelled the visit for next week etc. but taking the offer back? Maybe he’s got an SEC offer now? (close to home?) Or, a even more hideous thought….“Crazy Ruth” and one of her many “alters” offered her “services” as his “un-authorized” recruiting host?
yeah
I’m not sure if the injury history is the reason though. In interviews he’s mentioned he’s concerned about the distance from home. There could be grade issues too – that might be one of the reasons the local schools haven’t offered him.
UW has a limited number of official visits left that they can extend to recruits, so it behooves Sark to be choosy about who he brings in – if he feels like Wilson is not sure he’d be OK coming to school here due to distance, and/or his grades look iffy, probably best to save that official visit spot for a better bet.
Sark just "WOOF!!!"-ed
let the guessing games begin……..
Psalm Wooching is a Husky
Though I hope Ruth isn’t responsible for breaking the story. Welcome to Husky Nation Psalm. WOOF!
All I saw was purple
Scary....And Funny!
This could become a skit…on second thought…No
She tweeted to Biggins (ESPN) about how she confirmed it and was going to run it
she’s basically seeking permission from reputable sources now. Maybe another year of being crapped on by the recruiting community will finally see her off!
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