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Washington sends a signal

To say the least yesterday was a huge day for Washington football. Former Cal DL coach Tosh Lupoi was offered everything including kitchen sink and a speed boat to drive to work in to jilt his alma mater two weeks before the end of recruiting season to come join the staff at Washington.

Lupoi has a lot of great things going for him. He is an excellent coach who has already put a number of players into the NFL despite only being thirty years old. He also has the reputation of being the best recruiter on the west coast if not the country going into the 2012 recruiting season.

Recruiting experts feel that while Washington won't reap many immediate benefits over the next two weeks this move gives them the ability to clean up in California and the Northwest going forward in 2013. It definitely sends a signal to every school in the Pac 12 that Washington is here to win championships.

Simply by gauging the reaction of local, regional, and national sportswriters you realize that this was a major coup for Washington and a numbing defeat for California. Experts like Biggins, Fetters, and Huffman feel that it is a game changer in west coast recruiting.

Back in the good old days of Don James Washington used to rule the Bay Area and Central Valley. The addition of Lupoi gives Washington a tremendous recruiting tool in that area that had been lacking since the rise of Oregon and the re-emergence of Cal under Tedford.

Fetters thinks that Lupoi gives Washington a national recruiting presence that has been lacking since the days of Rick Neuheisel and Bobby Hauck. He thinks that Lupoi can sit down in any living room in the country and have a chance to reel in the big fish.

What Sark has assembled since the Alamo Bowl is impressive. Justin Wilcox, Peter Sirmon, Josh Lupoi, and Keith Heyward represent the dream team of young defensive coaching talent. I really can't think of a coaching staff that compares on even a national basis.

These are the guys that are going to come up with the answers and schemes to deal with the up tempo no huddle offenses. These are also the guys that are going to be able to recruit the talent to successfully man those schemes. This was the big step in the process of Washington taking it to the next level.

Nuss heads to Alabama

The news of the Lupoi signing pretty much eclipsed the news of the loss of UW offensive coordinator Jeff Nussmeier to national champion Alabama. We are all going to miss Nuss and we wish him well as he takes on a job that will have a lot more responsibility and prestige.

Current Washington WR coach Jim Dougherty is rumored to be a candidate to take over for Nuss. Eric Kiesau and Johnny Morton are two other names that I have heard mentioned. Kiesau is currently at Cal and Morton is with the 49ers.

Montana Transfer

Nick says the reason he decided to transfer is that he wants to find a level where he can play right away. That means either attending a JC or moving to a lower classification like his older brother did a couple of years ago when he transferred to the University of Montana from Notre Dame.

"I've got three years (of eligibility left) and I want to spend those on the field," he said Monday. "I don't want to wait another year. You only get one shot at playing college football. I just made the best decision for me and I'm going with it."

Condotta

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I'd be happy with it being spring . . .

and being able to go to practice!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Cyler Miles

Good news according to Dawgman is that he’s still a solid UW commit with the loss of Nuss. That’s encouraging. I’d hate to lose him – IMHO he’s got a tremendous future.

by NY85Dawg on Jan 17, 2012 9:37 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I also said

He might reconsider depending on who we hire.

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Condotta says...

that one of the names being thrown around for a new OC is Eric Kaesau, currently Cal’s passing game coordinator, though I can’t imagine the apoplectic rage in Berkeley if we raid them again so soon.

by Cad on Jan 17, 2012 9:45 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I dont really like this

CU was terrible when he was there. That could have just been Hawkins but…

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That being said

If its to be a QB coach or WR coach. That would be ok with me.

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Just from watching Cal's offense with all of that talent

do nothing, keeps me away from wanting him. Beyond that, I don’t know much about him.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He has been hired as WR Coach

I guess that means doherty is OC

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I can dig that

Cal may have had a bunch of crappy QBs of late, but you really can’t argue about their WRs.

by Cad on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Have you seen the quality of Cal's QBs post Aaron Rodgers?

It’s a litany of failure and misery. With that said, if they had a competent QB, they’d have won more games this season.

by Cad on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I feel bad for Nick

When we recruited him, I thought he was going to be a prominent figure for us going forward. I didn’t expect Keith to step up and seal that job up the way he did. Montana, although I wasn’t impressed with him, still has plenty of potential. He needs to work on his arm strength and I think he could be good for another team. I hope the best for him going forward. Thanks Nick!

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I'm pumped up like everyone else about this defensive coaching staff

I mean, I’m always pumped about our O, but it’s good to be excited about that side of the ball. Let’s go Dawgs!

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Wouldnt mind

Having another highly rated USC quarterback utter the words “all I saw was Purple”

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

All I saw was purple!

That’s awesome. Well we get a crack at Matt Barkley this year, although I’m not that confident as of yet.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm glad Montana is gone...

…maybe you guys will stop disrespecting Keith Price now. There was never any real QB competition between the two, 100% fanboy/media fantasy land.

by 206 on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

No way

I don’t know who disrespected Price. Not on this blog. There was never a doubt of who are QB was.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

There was plenty of disrespect

Many people I saw here and elsewhere saying how Montana wouldn’t be a step down or that there wouldn’t be any real loss between the two – this was before the OSU game. Go look up the posts from there.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That's not being disrespectful

If anything that is showing how much faith we had in Montana. I didn’t think it would be a step down but I was wrong. That’s what blogs are for. I don’t know how you Ducks do it, but we like to speculate. That is far from being disrespectful.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

So you are stating that being compared to Nick Montana is equal to being disrespected?

That’s what I take from your post. I think some of us were ready for something besides a very hurt Keith Price hobbling around. We just came off a bad loss to USC and things were bad at that time. Some of us, including myself sometimes, say things we usually don’t mean after bad games. Then after having time to think about it we come back and correct ourselves.

If you look up the posts after that game I bet you see the contrary. It’s not worth looking up but saying we disrespected our QB is rediculous. Coming from a Duck makes it sound even worse!

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It wasn't disrectful. It was just silly.

The over estimation of Montana’s ability since he signed has been stark. I think that last name has skewed many an opinion.

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You say silly, I say hopeful

The last name did skew my opinions. There wasn’t much else for me to go by though besides what I’ve read, him fumbling against CU, and his 4th qtr against SC. I don’t get much coverage of Huskies practice, and although I do get Huskies All Access on Root NW, they are very kind to the players and not very analytical like you Steen.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He practiced well

and he had good high school film. The name inflated him with the services, but with coaches I’m sure it didn’t hold much bearing when LSU, Bama, tOSU, ND and the rest of the CFB world offered him. Hell, I’m pretty sure when I did the math, he had a better QB rating in garbage time and a bad start against the Beavs than like 4 or 5 P12 QB’s.

The kid will be fine, he just realized that Price is locked in and he’ll have two or three highly rated kids to compete with and he wants to play ball. All the best to him.

by B Money on Jan 17, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

This comment is silly

most people on this blog new what they had with Montana. For me the excitement was more about Sark, because of the fact the Joe Montana liked him enough to send his kid there. If its good enough for Joe Montana what might other kids/coaches think.

But he was a 3 star low 4 star QB. Most of us knew what he was and that he was behind PRice from the beginning.

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I thought he would probably be able to take the job this year

clearly I was wrong and under estimated Price. I don’t think anyone pumped Nick up too much. He was always exactly what he should have been, a RSFr QB with good size and potential who hadn’t put it together…yet. Here’s hoping he does, wherever he ends up.

by B Money on Jan 17, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You left out 'talent'.

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He has talent

He’s a RSFr with an almost identical resume to our beloved Keith Price at this stage of his career. He had good film in HS and 20+ offers including (I might be wrong on this) the last 5 national champions. You’ve offered no facts to support your argument about him, period. I don’t know what he did besides being born the son of Joe Montana to give you such a hard on for him, but he’s a good kid with upside as a QB. He showed nothing but class while he was here and tried his damnedest out on the field. Show some fucking respect to a fucking human being.

by B Money on Jan 17, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree 100%

Nick has talent, it just hasn’t developed yet period. That’s usually the case for freshmen. Price came into Fall camp w/ 2 years under Sark and Nuss’ wing. Nick had one. It’s not the end all for Nick, remember the No.1 QB prospect, Jake Heaps transfered because he couldn’t beat out another QB who was projected lower then himself. Sounds like someone has an ax to grind.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

If he would just quit puffing his chest like he won a fight I'd be okay

but he keeps throwing out how bad Nick was, when he just flat out wasn’t bad. He wasn’t good, but he’s young and obviously showed some semblance of talent to warrant so much interest. Losing what is a proven commodity like Nick for an unknown like Brown, Lindquist and Miles is not my idea of a victory. He might have been a career backup, but I fail to find why he’s “bad” when he merely couldn’t beat out the guy who had the best statistical season in Husky history.

by B Money on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly.

Losing Montana won’t kill us, but we’d be better off if he stayed. If ASJ had not dropped that pass against OSU, he very well could have lead UW to a victory that day.

by Mind of no mind on Jan 17, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I actually don't think he had that bad of a game vs. OSU

Everybody knows Sark called a “safe” game for Nick vs. Oregon State. He hadn’t had the reps to give Nick the tools to be successful. With that said, Nick showed a lot of poise in the pocket. And like Mind of no mind said, if ASJ catches that ball, we probably aren’t having this discussion.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It could hurt

If Price misses significant time next year

by CODawg on Jan 19, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Guys you are making a mountain out of a mole hill

Of course delusional Husky fans are going to say something like that. We expected Nick to step in and have a good game vs. a less superior team. How is saying we expected Nick to have a decent to good game reflects disrespect to the starter? What did we learn? Well we learned going forward that Keith Price is our starter and this is his team, but I think we all already knew that before Price was told to sit this one out so we could rest his injured leg.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Okay, let's go another route

I heard plenty of folks on the radio wanting Montana to start and wanted him to have the job over Price even after his great season, and were really thrilled when he got the ‘chance to shine’ against OSU.

Perhaps it’s not as much on this blog (though I bet I can find a few posts along that route) but it’s certainly out there.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Your using literally the whiniest most irrational fraction of the fan population to base your argument.

You might as well say Keith was being maligned on the Times comments section. There’s always going to be a segment of the population who think the grass is greener elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean they’re indicative.

We might as well paint the entire Oregon football team as laptop stealing pot heads who drive around with suspended licenses, or the beavers as bunch of drunken idiots who like to get naked and charge peace officers.

by Drew_D on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Okay, here's an example from the blog

Check out some of the comments from the game post-USC. Comments like KP is regressing, he’s only a slightly better than average QB, a poor leader, whining too much at others, etc.

As to painting all the Oregon team as potheads, well, that’s pretty much par for the course here. I figure there’s going to be a lot of that here, and it doesn’t bug me; it’s clearly wrong.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Don't do it...by "it" I mean, use rational thought...It rarely works

We Sportsfans are very often members of the same religious cult…only by another name,incapable of critical thinking and the “mob” nature they foster would serve you up for their Blog Barbeque if you let down your guard!

by gliderdawg on Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That's Gekko after a bad loss.

And almost every post after is, “eehhh not really”.

by Drew_D on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

and we all know

Gekko can be a little irrational after a bad loss

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Gekko is very emotional after bad losses

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I remember

I bet I’m the only person to be banned here due to a post I made at AtQ.

If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!

by Old Ducker on Jan 18, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean the mini thread I started thread

wherein I have some criticisms of KP but go on to state that it’s clear that he’s the better option than Montana and no one disagrees with me, people actually agree, and someone suggests Brown will pass Montana on the depth chart?

You’re off base.

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 17, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, the one where you had 3 of the 5 replies

Shocking how most everyone agreed with you on that.

But yes, I’m totally saying that you said KP wasn’t a good leader, was having mental issues, etc. I’m completely fine stating that that was you bringing those things up.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Did anyone disagree?

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 17, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Anyone?

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 17, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Bueller?

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 17, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Did I also not say that he was CLEARLY the better option than

Montana? if you think critiquing someone after a poor performance is the equivalent of saying the back up needs to start you need to go back to your community college and try your logic class again. My comments were completely based on the fact that KP is a sophomore and has some growing up to do. Nothing more, nothing less.

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You certainly did

Shockingly, you were not the only one. People asked where KP was put down – you were certainly one of the people who did. That’s all. Nothing more, nothing less.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

ZOMG!?!?!?!

I critiqued one of our players!!!!! Holy crap! That automatically equals disrespect and a “put down”!

Here’s a put down: “You are an idiot.”

(Note that I put in quotes to highlight that it is an example, and that I’m not ACTUALLY saying that about Kalon. I have to point this out because he seems to not understand the distinction between post game analysis and critiquing and an actual put down.)

Sir, you are a proud representative of your quality academic institution.

And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'

by StuHamm on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Though hey, here's another one
KP: not getting it done whatsoever. I really think it is that the league, conference, has figured him out. He does not have a strong arm and this game he only checked down. We wanted him to check down when there was no protection instead of taking a sack, not on every play! Time to give Montana the nod. I just don’t think KP is an elite QB even though he came out of the gate on fire. Hopefully he proves me wrong but watching this kid play is like pulling teeth!

And that came from datboyeddiep, who is one of the more frequent posters here.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yes yes yes

Thanks for throwing old comments after a bad loss in our face. Some of us are very reactive after bad losses. I did say I hope he proves me wrong didn’t I?

What can I do, you caught me red handed. I was pissed off after that loss, I also called Nick Holt a bad name and got flagged. I was very naughty around the USC OSU games. That’s how I am, very emotional after bad games by my team. The only way I can stop posting like that is by not posting until 24 hours after the game. And screw that, I like going on tangetns and at that time, I felt it was right.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Of course

what kind of man/fan would I be. Look, I’m a Husky fan, reading that comment made me feel kinda bad. At that time though I know how I felt, and I felt that keith was not getting it done. But I bet after analyzing things, I posted a different post with different feelings. It may have been after I saw how bad Nick was and I started realizing how good Keith really was. Who knows, that’s the fun of posting on this blog. Your gonna eat crow sometimes and I’m eating it. Sorry Keith, I love you.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

My point is that you're not the only one

And that plenty of others thought exactly the same thing. This is the case for all sorts of fanbases.

But the notion that KP wasn’t getting disrespected is kind of insane.

Though I have to say that this thread all started by you responding this way:

I don’t know who disrespected Price. Not on this blog. There was never a doubt of who are QB was.

Which is pretty funny :)

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You like that huh?

Damn Duck! That’s fine, you are correct. I usually don’t remember emotionally charged pissed off rants. Well, after being slapped in the face with it, I remember now. Thanks a lot.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Not to be argumentative, much less on a sports blog,

BUT
“Damn Duck” is redundant . . .

at least this one is both civil, and well informed . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh I was definitely joking

He threw comments in my face and I was jokingly stating,“Damn Duck!”. It’s hard to put that across in writing but It was in good nature.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 18, 2012 6:27 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Kalon

Just so you know the whole Damn Duck thing was a joke. No harm meant, the Husky in exile thought it was mean then maybe you did as well. It was in good fun. You got me with these posts, and I say, Damn you.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

But Montana is soooooo good!

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You are just Mr. Sunshine . . .

Are you related to Norm1?

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Nope, I've had quite a bit of fun the last couple days.

The coaching changes have been beyond my wildest dreams, and the Montana departure couldn’t worked out better for the program. We got the benefit of the PR bump of having a “name” on the roster and his dad around the program, and before it’s obvious to everyone that he can’t play, he leaves. So we don’t have to waste a scholly on him. How much would it suck to have him taking the spot of PSA like Max Browne? Or any position, really?

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

H*ll yes; let's not jinx KP

He already has gimpy knees . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

How is that?

Derrick Brown comes to mind. We have other QB’s on the roster.

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Let me guess . . .

You are a Cincinnati Bengals fan and you hate Joe Montana for beating them in two Super Bowls?

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

you're optimistic...

…if you think Derrick Brown as a RS-Fr will be better than Nick Montana as a RS-So.

by kirkd on Jan 17, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

We have one other plus a walk on

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 18, 2012 4:35 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Derrick Brown

May be a great QB some day but has no experience at this point and is a year younger that Montana. Heck our backup next year might be a true freshman. Not since Marques Tuiasosopa has that worked out for us.

by CODawg on Jan 19, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

my sons baseball coach

Has a 24 hour rule for parents not to contact him.

by CODawg on Jan 19, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

He was regressing

he had a string of bad games when the opponent got better. He had a magical bowl game, but that too was after he got healthy and played a defense ranked somewhere in the 100’s. Price was hurt and not playing well. I don’t think anyone was calling for Montana to take over permanently, at least not anyone with a working set of eyes.

by B Money on Jan 17, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Sports Radio

Well the people that call in to Seattle stations are anything like the ones here in Denver. They are typically not very knowledge and even the hosts often call them idiots.

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Wow!

Who are you referring to? Because nobody on this blog has ever disrespected Price. Many thought the competition would be fearse after Locker graduated, but does that = disrespect? We are bloggers, we are fans, we can’t thoroughly evaluate talent the same way college coaches can.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah

WTF are you referring too?

by CODawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It's the same line of B.S. that sounds like B.S.....

ie. Post Alamo Bowl we were embarrased to be fans B.S.! We were glad to be fans…just not glad to have lost that “shoot out”… Bittersweet? Yes! Embarrased? No way!

by gliderdawg on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I was embarrassed by the defensive performance.

No question. You are correct, if you are a Husky fan, and have any pride, that was embarrassing.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

On the new defensive staff:

We haven’t played or coached a down yet and we are already discussing how effective this staff will be. I am very excited to see this staff hard a work, but big salaries don’t exactly = wins. These guys have a lot of work ahead of them. I like the fact that during the Holt era, we gained some speed on defense in terms of recruiting. But if you look at the entire picture, offensively we’ve recruited the offensive side of the ball better then the defensive side. Sure we landed some big fish in Shirley, Hudson, Jamora, Sample, ext. But we haven’t really gotten our hands on a big thumper at MLB, a lock down corner, and a run stuffing DT. Offensively we’ve recruited well at most every position. Going forward I’d like to see this defensive staff lock down a couple studs at those coveted positions. That will definitely tell me that these guys are solid in what they do.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I know you are being honest

and it’s always appreciated. But why rain on our parade man? It’s your parade too.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It's time to see some results

After an unbelievable defensive meltdown, doesn’t it make you want to see some results? I want something to believe in. I’ve seen the splashy hires before, Holt was one of those and it didn’t go to well for him.

However, I do like our new apporach. The 4-3 is dead in this league. You can’t defend offenses from Mars with a 4-3 base. You have to come with athletes with speed and I think the 3-4 base will be more effective.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I wasn't as excited as most over Holt

I thought he had a lot to prove and never gave him credit for USC’s defenses. Taht has always gone to pistol Pete Carrol. He came here and, I wouldn’t say proved me right, but he damn sure didn’t prove me wrong.

I like the 3-4 better. It just seems like it works in this spread society we live in. I hate the spread!

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

The Holt Hire

Was a lengthy made-for-tv announcement. It was something that truly defines “splashy”. Don’t get me wrong, Sark’s done a remarkable job in hiring a top shelf defensive staff. Like I said, I’m ready to see some results.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

The 4-3 is dead in the Pac-12?

Wrong. It’s still used extensively in the Pac-12.

Off the top of my head, only Stanford uses the 3-4 front in the conference.

You can defend any offense with a 4-3 scheme, just as you can defend any offense with the 3-4. Any defense works, but what it really comes down to is playing sound, disciplined, fundamental football to defeat the play being run at you on a play-after-play basis.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 11:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

That and not only having the players to do it

But also that your players fit the scheme.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 11:14 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

That's the problem

We don’t have the players to fit that scheme. Our players look like they are better equipped to play in a 3-4. I like it because you can disguise your intentions a little better or have the ability to do so.

Maybe that was an over statement, but with the out of this world offense in our league, we have to be a little more effective in space. I have an idea that the 3-4 will put us in better space to handle space.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I somewhat agree.

Nick Holt often times ran the 3-3-5, usually in passing situations. In my opinion, I felt that coverage-wise, the players did best in that front.

The Huskies have some players who are wide and can take up space along the line, but few who have consistently shown the ability to penetrate.

Also, I don’t think the Huskies will be strictly a 3-4 team.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Shirley in that OLB role

would definitely be scary coming off the edge in the 3-4.

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

So that's the really big statement in these hires; that we are suffiently

committed to pay the big bucks to hire from amongst the very best recruiters on Defense. This strategy will take a little time to play out.

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Thank you.

I could only recall Stanford off the top of my head.

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm sitting here like a kid in a video game store.

the candy store thing just doesn’t work for kids nowadays.

I’m sitting here reading these articles about our coaching staff, implications it has on recruiting, the rise of the Dawgs once again from the ashes, and I’m in total shock. I’m so damn happy, I don’t even know what to comment anymore, or what to say. To see other fans like Oregons’ have articles on their blog about our rise. To see us as a fanbase so eager and excited, more than I’ve seen in quite a while, for the start of a season. This is awesome. Go Dawgs!

by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

To get a big morale boost, go visit Cal Gloden Bear Blog

I implore you to be nice; they are having a nuclear grade meltdown . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Biggins tweeting

That Kiesau is indeed headed to UW to be the WR coach. NOT the QB coach.

by TualatinDawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

It's going to be hilarious

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by cdlewey on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

CGB

I’m surprised that they aren’t over here. How can they really be that pissed? Cal has managed to keep Tedford around for almost a decade and their were some moments where he was the hot name for job offers. A good head coach will fill the void.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Pissed

Doesn’t even begin to describe the length and breadth of their ire. UW is officially public enemy #1 in the eyes of CGB. Linky

by TualatinDawg on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That's a given

And if a couple of PSA’s end up having a change of heart…

by TualatinDawg on Jan 17, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Apparently these coaches

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@JordanPayton which coaches are coming?
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by johnnieday on Jan 17, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Works for me...

Rosebowl titles last 90 years, UW 8, UO 1...
Twitter @DAWGFATHER91

by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 17, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Kind of funny...

that two defense coaches are going to an in home with a WR.

by Snostrebla on Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

More from Payton

JordanPayton Jordan Payton
Solid.. Official to Washington this weekend

by johnnieday on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

good news

Hopefully the visit goes well.

by kirkd on Jan 17, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Thursday Night Hoops

With Cal coming to town Thursday night, should be pretty interesting storylines. Get it done Romar!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I didn't even realize that

Should be very interesting. Although, I rather the Dawgs just go off and continue the trend of this week.

by johnnieday on Jan 17, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Are we in on more Cal recruits than Shaq and Jordan?

Bearsinsider makes it sound like we’re poaching their entire class.

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Dozier may be in play again

Now that Kiesau is also coming, Dozier is reportedly open to taking more official visits, including the UW.

by kirkd on Jan 17, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

They're really, really mad.

“Sleazy” is one of the kinder words getting thrown around. Which I don’t really get – I really don’t think I’d feel the same way if our positions were reversed and Cal was throwing a ton of money at our coaches.

by huskies2010 on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It's a tough position to be in. . .

Think about it from a Cal fan’s point of view: There is a major arms race going on in the PAC12, Washington just bought your most prized assistants and your school can’t (or won’t) spend the money to keep up in the arms race.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It's partially due to timing

It would have been less sleazy to the school (but significantly more sleazy to the kids) to leave after LOI.

I think he made the right choice, personally, but I can see the argument the other way.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I can see both sides of the argument . . .

but the truth of the matter is that January is when assistant coaches move around. It’s the nature of the beast, the season is over, coaches are getting hired and fired, it’s just how the system works.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

The moralizing is really odd.

Everyone knows how the sausage is made, right? This is what your beloved looks like. It’s always been this way.

The TV business College Football is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason. -HST

I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.

by Steen on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Very true. And easy for us to observe and agree, since we're 'on top' this time

Not so nice for Cal fans right now, and they’re especially peeved as they realize their school is surrending in the asst coach salary war w/o firing a shot . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Think it through. Cal is not in a position to outbid us, and that greatly

increases their frustration.

This is actually a Pacific Coast storyline with a long history. The details have varied some over time, but for the other ‘traditional’ Pac NW schools (plus Bay Area),

UW has always been Daddy Warbucks, and NONE TOO SUBTLE about it.

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Going to?

They already have! Just read some of the comments after they learned Kiesau left for greener (and snowier) pastures.

by kschimke on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

New WR Coach

Dave Mahler on KJR radio is now reporting that Greg Biggens is saying the new WR coach is from Cal (possibly meaning Jimmy Doherty as QB/OC)

by mgdawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Probably missed this part of the article
Recruiting has virtually no correlation to success over the last three years in the Big East and the PAC 12 but for the other four conferences it anywhere from a little (Big 12, land of Red River and everyone else) to a lot (the ACC and the SEC)

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

That was from the same article

The R^2 was .06 for the Pac-12. That was sort of the point of that sentence I quoted.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I think what steen is saying..

is even the SEC and ACC R-2 is weak.

by supercanuck on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

They're not that bad

They’re not a perfect correlation, but a R^2 of .50 is very good.

That being said, a lot of it comes down to the system and the coaches as much as it does the talent. The teams that do well in the SEC get great recruits AND can utilize them well. The teams from the Pac-12 are very hit and miss; the USC team was loaded but sucked, the Cal team is the same, Oregon does great with fairly poor recruiting classes by comparison, etc.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

RE: How to build a defense

A pretty informative article. Thanks for the info, Steen!

by Jake Locker on Jan 17, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Apparently

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by cdlewey on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Apparently Kiseau is wanted as an OC, not a WR coach

https://twitter.com/#!/bcondotta/status/159362924035571713

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by cdlewey on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I think that only applies if a couple prized recruits de-commit and drive up I5.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Program mister?

Program, program? Hey can’t tell the coaches without a program! Hey, program mister?

by McKinleyville on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

it's a harmless joke

Just a funny commentary on the significant coaching turnover on the staff this year – I don’t see anything malicious about it.

by kirkd on Jan 17, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Husky in Exile, you have spent the last two days trolling California Golden Blogs nonstop, posting over 100 comments in that last two day, gloating and trying to provoke people. Why your life is so empty that you have to be on CGB until the small hours of the morning trying to taunt people, I cannot imagine. But your fellow Huskies fans should know that you are doing everything you can to embarrass the University of Washington.

CGB: The Strangest Blog

by CalBear81 on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

My Apologies.

I haven’t read anything over there for awhile, but I’d like to apologies for any ACTUAL Husky fans that have been jerks. I hope you realize that the majority of us are self respecting adults with lives outside of college football.

I would hate for anybody to think we are no different than Oregon fans.

For the record: Please notice that there is no poster here by the name of Dawgdefender. Whoever that is, they are NOT a Husky fan.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm Excited...

…about the entire package. If the fan base is excited then interest and revenue increase also. It looks like a Woodward and Sark just hit a monster home run! GO DAWGS!!

Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"

by dawgfan22 on Jan 18, 2012 3:39 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

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