Huskies Hire Away Cal's Tosh Lupoi
This is a big time hire that really finishes laying the foundation of the new defensive staff.
"Coach Lupoi is a terrific young coach and a dynamic recruiter," Sarkisian said. "He will have an immediate impact with our team both on the field and in recruiting."
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Can you say coaching staff upgrades?
Pardon me, I need to go suckle on the tears over at California Golden Blogs.
Roast Duck is a delicacy.
Love this
And before the deadline! Now let’s steal some recruits!
by sdhuskyfan on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Shaq Thompson's twitter account
I have A lot of thinking to do
https://twitter.com/#!/ItsShaqThompson/status/158999321881227264
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Damn right he does
Roast Duck is a delicacy.
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
add to that the following:
Apparently Shaq’s mom does NOT want him at Cal for some reason. With Tosh now at the UW, could the Huskies emerge as his new leader? It’s looking a lot better than it did a day ago…
these freaking Moms
you lose some, you win some I guess….
these "freaking Moms"...
are doing what they are supposed to do. They have every right to influence their children’s decision. They know the average boosters are jackals that don’t even consider their sons to be people, just commodities.
it's about how cryptic their views seem from this position
X’s mom loathes UW! Wants him to go to Notre Dame! Y’s mom hates Cal!
cool, didn't know that
takes it even more off of Willingham’s achievement list
No nevermind
I misread an article I was just about to post here. Sorry. Looks like she ran track for Miami, I though I read that she did at Udub. I was confused…
by datboyeddiep on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas . . . .
and it ain’t just the weather!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Well, at least Shaq made up his own mind when he committed to Cal, it appears.
That said, with his tweet, and the recent news that he is now 50/50, I happily believe that it is possible that UW is his new leader.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Could any of us
Thought this would turn out this well. What is the chance he can take anyone this year?
Could very well be possible
Scott Eklund of DM just said on Softy that 2.5 weeks is a lifetime in recruiting terms. You never know, but this probably puts us back in play for Thompson.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 16, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
He could actually influence quite a few...
Cal has the top recruiting class in the conference right now and they have some nice defensive talent to pluck that may be influenced by this move.
Paging Shaq Thompson, Ellis McCarthy, Cedric Dozier, and Luke Kaumatule.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
i could see all but cedric dozier
dozier got recruited to play reciever at cal which is one of the main reasons he went there.
Aziz Shittu
Maybe? I can dream?
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Dang
He sure jumped on that one pretty fast.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
His dad wanted him there
I think it was Condotta (maybe Softy) who said his pops and Martin were elementary school friends.
yep
But McCarthy preferred Cal until Tosh left. Cal had nothing left from him. This hire obviously helps us but it hurts Cal more.
Its a Business
More money, more responsibility and a more storied program.
Roast Duck is a delicacy.
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Dear God
It’s like we went from resignation from Nuss leaving and having a lackluster class to HOLY COW, WHAT IS HAPPENING, BECAUSE IT IS SO AMAZING in a heartbeat.
Personally
I think we are doing a major upgrade on the staff this year – losing Nuss will hurt but I trust that we are going to spend the money to find an excellent replacement and the D coaches are becoming stacked.
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
The offense will be okay
It’s in great shape; we all saw what it can do in the Alamo Bowl.
If we’d had a decent defense, we’d easily have 9 wins this season. A good defense gets us to double digit wins and a BCS bid. A great defense puts us in the national champion.
And it’s pretty clear that, holy cow, Sark wants a great defense, and he’s going to get it come hell or high water.
I don't see losing Nuss as an issue
The offense was always about Sark, not Nuss. That’s not going to change significantly with Nuss’s departure unless they hire some spread guy or something.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
we'll see
The bottom line is QB development was going very, very well with Nuss around. Maybe that was more Sark than Nuss, and goodness knows we’ve seen Sark willing to go big to get a coach he wants, but it’s a bit concerning to see a coach at a spot that was working really well leave.
Agreed.
If I am Sark, I am looking for a QB coach, not a coordinator.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Sark is the OC...
I’ve always had issues with this esp. with a lame DC on staff. But this defensive staff will be able to fully handle the D schemes and in-game adjustments. Plus, Sark significantly improved as a balanced play-caller and deserves to continue.
Sark improved as a play-caller?
I don’t think so – what improved was the talent he had to work with. He’s now had 3 years of working with these kids in his system, and he knows them better and they know his system better. And he and his staff have done a terrific job coaching up the players they have.
No, his play-calling has always been good – it’s just he has better tools to operate his plays now.
i disagree kirkd,
i’ve seen better balance and less pass-happy tendencies from Sark. Let’s not forget Sark’s red zone and goal line play-calling was atrocious at first. Plus, it took him half a season and a 3-6 record to figure out that Polk was an NFL caliber RB that needed to be the first option.
I completely disagree
I watched Sark as a play-caller at USC and here. He’s adapted and evolved, but he’s always been a good play-caller. It’s incredibly easy to play the hindsight game with play-calling, and I see way too many people critique a play-call when the problem was execution, not intent.
We’ll disagree I guess – I think Sark simply has better tools at his disposal now at the UW.
It might surpise you to know...
Sarkisian has never had a season with more passes than runs as a play caller. Both here and at USC.
He’s all about balance. That hasn’t changed in the slightest.
Redzone and goalline play calling is much easier . . .
with an improved offensive line and this monster they call ASJ. Sark has far more tools available to him now, it makes the play calling sooo much easier.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
WOOHOO!!!!
This is awesome. Absolutely great news for UW. Hopefully Shaq comes with him.
Aziz Shittu
Aziz Shittu @AzizShittu 9m
WOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!! The Game Just Changed
#bowdown
I don't think that means he's considering UW
It’s more likely that it means that Cal isn’t the favorite anymore
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
But I'd love it if he did come here
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Dreaming right now
I don’t think its likely, we are on the peripherals.. but hey, fantasy time.
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Considering how amazingly Sark & Co has done with forming their staff
I wouldn’t be surprised at anything happening
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Cal fans are not happy about this.
They all seem to think Tosh shouldn’t have left before signing day, that it was being unfair to Cal. Wouldn’t it be a dick move to stay until the players he recruited signed their LOI’s and then leave them for UW while they were all stuck at Cal assuming he would be their coach?
by UW11Bowdown on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with your take
Its a business in the end, he gave them some great years.
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
And they're acting like he's only getting a small pay raise to leave
He’s going from $164,000 to $500,000+. Who wouldn’t leave to get triple the salary
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
And then you try and find a place with a reasonable rent
And it’s like someone knifed you in the kidneys.
Cali is a heartless bitch...
…that makes you feel special while she’s robbing you blind…but those special times can keep you from leaving her.
Hold it right there?
You have a job? With real paychecks?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jan 16, 2012 1:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ahh, come on . . .
you told me I could have today off!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
You can pick me up at
Centennial Airport. One of the largest general service airports in the country. Its just down the road.
Haven't been to that one yet . . .
I have been to Rocky Mountain (aka Jefferson County) Airport.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Wha? All I get is a pay on the back and a lousy Christmas card
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
"pay" or 'pat' on the back?
Count your blessings; you coulda been stuck on a Golden Bear Blog today . . . :-)
by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 AM PST up reply actions
damned if you do, damned if you don't
Tosh can’t win in this regard – either he leaves now and Cal fans are pissed that he’ll sabotage their recruiting class, or he leaves just after Signing Day and all the recruits are pissed that they got played.
Even if we don't gain any recruits this year
This is a HUGE win for us. Maybe our D can be better than league average this year!
by JaaronGriffeyJr on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM PST reply actions
Washington has really come to play. This will have major recruiting implications up the West Coast.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just as people were starting to say that this was a bad recruiting class
Sark goes out and gets one of the best young minds and best recruiters in the country as our D-Line coach, one of the best young minds in the country as our DC, one of the best young minds and recruiters in the country as our LBs coach, and one of the best young minds and recruiters on the west coast as our DBs coach
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by cdlewey on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
College football arms race is nuts. Holy shit.
Always giving 110% while taking it one comment at a time.
by FullTiltPolker on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions
Here’s the SB Nation story on the move and his recruiting impact: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/1/16/2711585/tosh-lupoi-washington-cal-defensive-line-coach-recruiting
Thanks for the link
Always nice to see UW making another splash on the national stage.
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
No problem. And when y’all have recruiting news, make sure to send it my way.
Bud [dot] elliott [at] SBNation [dot] com
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I Like It
Bob Condotta @bcondotta 1m
People giving Justin Wilcox a lot of credit for helping lure Lupoi to UW. Some call Wilcox Lupoi’s mentor
#bowdown
it's good to be on the right side of one of these hires
I’m going to try and enjoy it as much as possible, because it sounds like other teams will be eyeballing the staff soon enough.
And the Cal blog just got put on suicide watch, I believe.
by wyte_lightning on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I feel for those guys
Cal has great fans. Has to be tough to see a conference rival willing and able to pay what it takes to keep talent while your own school sits back and watches.
I agree that their fans are great.
Even before this though they have always seemed to dislike us, anyone know why that is?
maybe because we keep trying to poach their coaches?
Lots of chatter both when Ty was hired and then fired about the UW going after Tedford. And of course this isn’t the first time Sark has raided Tedford’s staff…
Fair enough
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Is that really it?
I don’t think UW ever made much of a serious run at Tedford. It seems like it’s coming from someplace else, but I guess I could be wrong.
I can't recall if we made a run at him or not
But I do remember his name being bandied about quite a bit.
by TualatinDawg on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
They hate their president for letting Leach go too much to hate UW
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I have no idea
But I do distinctly recall how cocky UW fans were in 2004 on Cal boards that we were going to swoop in and pay bucketloads of cash to steal away Jeff Tedford. The fervor was a bit less in 2009, but still there. I would imagine Cal fans probably didn’t appreciate it.
and they woulda been right, but some amount of that crap talk is
going to go on. We’ve been on the receiving end of losing a coach as well . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 AM PST up reply actions
One big reason
They hate, hate, hate Pete Carroll. Sark is from that tree. So he inherits a lot of that hate.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
True enough
but hate is hate.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Oh, god, that was a great streak
I remember watching the 1993 game and Cal was whipping us and we were down 23-3 in the third quarter, so I went to Costco. Got inside and there a HUGE crowd by the TVs cheering like crazy people. We had just won the game.
1991
I was at the ’91 game. Both teams ranked real high. I was living in the bay area at the time. What a game and of course Dawgs went on to win Rose Bowl and Natty that year.
I H8 Dux
Yeah, it was one for the ages
They didn’t beat us through the entire presidencies of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George HW, and Bill Clinton.
UW or Uw?
Notice the writer of this post always used a lower case W when referring to the Huskies. Funny stuff
Coaching Staff.
WOW. The defensive staff couldn’t have worked out ANY better.
I seem to remember people being worried that we would have a hard time finding an upgrade to Holt and Co., Sark didn’t just upgrade the staff, he might have the best up and coming defensive staff in the country. GO DAWGS.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Say it Lear.. Say it!
In Sark we trust!
:-)
by supercanuck on Jan 16, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I BARK FOR SARK
WOOF, WOOF, WOOF!!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
by Lear Pilot on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You got us there!
"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis
by Carne Guisada on Jan 16, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
More news about Shaq
@TaraFOXSports
Just got off the phone with 5-star S Shaq Thompson, who says he is now torn,“I am 50-50 between #Cal and #Washington.” Full story soon.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Yep, just heard that on Softy show
This is getting insane
daughter of an old Husky
Tom Turnure is her dad – he was a starting C for the Dawgs back in the late ’70’s.
HOPE!
Tara Turnure @TaraFOXSports 3m
Just got off the phone with 5-star S Shaq Thompson, who says he is now torn,“I am 50-50 between #Cal and #Washington.” Full story soon.
#bowdown
with all this coaching turnover, ooks like January 2012 is officially the start of the Sarkisian Era, Phase 2
Rose Bowl or Bust
Fixed that for you
Rose Bowl National Title or Bust
#bowdown
by PurpleHeart on Jan 16, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
UW Football is officially back on track!
Kudos to Sark for responding to defensive mediocrity like a champion!
And please stop crying about losing a QB coach…every QB coach in America would want to be mentored by Sark, especially if the last one gets promoted to ’Bama OC.
I'm beginning to wonder if ths hiring had more to do with Wilcox.
Not that Sarkisian didn’t pull his weight of course.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Wilcox, $$$, UW trending upward
I’d bet all of it was at play. And if Wilcox does a good job here and leaves for a head coaching gig in a few years, maybe Tosh is the heir apparent?
Maybe
I’d bet that he’d become the DC at that job instead, though.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Might depend on who can pay more.
If UW is paying 500k for him now, I’m guessing he’d get a raise to be fulltime DC. Not a lot of schools would be able to match that. Also, reports were that his fiance is from the Seattle area, if she gets a say, it might be hard for him to take a lesser paying job that moves them away from her family.
by Mind of no mind on Jan 16, 2012 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds pretty reasonable.
We shall see. A lot can change in two or three years.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
yup, good call Kirkd...
you would think Tosh would at least be DC frontruner if Wilcox left to be HC somewhere…Wilcox would probably take Sirmon as his own DC.
Dont bet on it
My guess is if this all works out for UW it wont be long before Wilcox is a HC candidate. And he will surely take Sirmon and Lupoi with him when he leaves.
I H8 Dux
he'll take one...
…I doubt he takes both. At that point, both Sirmon & Lupoi would be potential DC candidates, and whichever one Wilcox doesn’t pick would probably be a prime candidate to replace Wilcox as DC here.
If that time comes quickly . . .
so will a trip to the Rose Bowl.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
yep
Wilcox getting Head Coaching consideration from a decent school will come about because the UW defense has shown notable improvement, and notable improvement in the UW defense probably means we’re winning 10+ games.
Yep.
Losing coaches due to success is a good problem to have. It’s like a business that out grows it’s building. I’d much rather replace successful coaches than fire coaches.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Unless it happens after 2012.
It wouldn’t take much to “show” dramatic improvement in the defense. Even mediocre play is going to make Wilcox look like he can work wonders. There’d be a reasonable chance he’d get a look as a head guy after only a year.
Lupoi
Wicox, Lupoi, new Husky Stadium, great recruits the next two years, I have heard enough quacking to last a life time! Maybe this will fix that problem.
by hsteele7 on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Open letter to Washington State recruits:
It’s not too late to reconsider staying home! Washington has just declared they will not settle for mediocre, they will not be happy until they are winning championships. After one more season you will be playing in a brand new, state of the art, stadium. The loudest in the country. We need you, we want you, stay home, be a local hero, win championships!!
GO DAWGS.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
by Lear Pilot on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Read your subject and was like hold the phone you already stole Sankey, our class isn't even that good.
Read the rest, nice message. I hope they leave anyway though.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
What a great offseason
Between Wilcox and Lupoi and Sirmon, just an enormous upgrade all around on the defensive side.
If that’s Wilcox’s influence what an amazing influence that’s going to be. Wow.
Kinda funny how folks didn’t want to get rid of Holt because they were worried about who they would replace him with :P
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I'm not super sold on Heyward
His performance at OSU was…well, it wasn’t great. And he’s not super well known for recruiting prowess.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Not so fast
Heyward isn’t Lupoi but he does have a reputation as a very good recruiter. Especially in SoCal.
I H8 Dux
That's one of his positive's
heyward is a good recruiter. Especially in Socal
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 5:56 AM PST up reply actions
the impressive thing is that Sark closed the deal(s) after an all-time terrible Alamo Bowl performance/season
had the D been really good people would nod and say “yeah, of course they were excited to go to UW”
If you're a defensive guy...
And you saw what Washington’s offense is capable of, you realize that the only thing missing from making that program really scary is a good defense.
Had the D been really good
We would’ve been stuck with Holt
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Not necessarily
A coach that wants to establish their bona fides wants to show immediate, drastic turnaround. And that’s a lot easier with a team that frankly is bad than it is with a team that is already really good or has lots of great players. You also get the ability to mold it pretty much however you see fit, instead of having to cater to existing superstars or whatever.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
that makes sense, I can see a risk/reward split
for a younger coach trying to make their way “into the league”, so to speak, these sorts of foundational overhauls are more available and let them put their foot in the door. An already established coach can be more discerning and pick off the mediocre programs that offer less downside for the first 2 or 3 years.
To his credit, Sark targeted both youth and highly regarded youth.
All-time terrible?
What season are you talking about?
Alamo Bowl record 777 yards of offense to Baylor, 67 points to Baylor....
Washington’s 2011 defense set school records for most points allowed, total touchdowns, yards passing allowed and total yards allowed.
so….2011. The 2011 season was awful, the Alamo Bowl performance was record-settingly bad.
The 2008 season was awful.
The 2011 season was not.
They were basically the same, statistically
points allowed, yards allowed, sacks, turnovers – they were almost exactly the same. The difference was that 2008 didn’t have an embarrassing single game like this season did.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
That's on the offense, not the defense
The 2011 season, DEFENSIVELY, was as bad as the 2008 season. The big difference was that in 2011 the Huskies could actually score some points.
I suspect the original poster meant all time terrible defensive performance/season. Which is factually correct.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
this
I must have been unclear, I was talking about the defensive performance
The 2008 USC was a more embarrassing defensive performance
As a duck fan, you really don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to how dawg fans feel about specific matters. Kinda like your post on “Dawg Fans worst month ever”
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jan 16, 2012 1:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Okay
Like I’ve stated before, I’m a dawg fan too. If that’s impossible in your mind so be it.
I’ve talked to a lot of fans after the Alamo bowl and they were significantly more embarrassed than 2008, at least immediately afterwards. I know I was; it was a national stage blunder of epic proportion that became a punchline for the national media. 2008 had excuses, reasons for failure, and eventually the removal of a fairly hated coach; 2011 had hope and some joy and it all crashed down.
I think both can be pretty embarrassing to fans.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I didnt feel anything similar
I was not nearly as embarrassed after the Alamo bowl as I was after going 0-12. That was and hopefully will always be my lowest point as a husky fan.
I'm glad you are, my only point is that your POV
…just isn’t that of the mainstream DawgFan. How could it be when your favorite team I the Ducks?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jan 16, 2012 2:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am surprised to hear that people were embarresed by the Alamo Bowl.
Obviously there were some defensive breakdowns, but it was what I expected and we held our own against a top 25 team. It wasn’t like it was a blow out or anything.
Really?
Maybe I listen to more talk radio than other folks, but for 5 days straight it was caller after caller talking about how much they hated Holt, how bad the Huskies were, how embarrassed they were to be called out on Sportscenter like that, etc.
Talking to friends they were pretty pissed too, especially given what a great performance Price had. How can you lose when your QB is responsible for 7 TDs? That sort of thing.
Maybe it’s turned around some with Wilcox and Sirmon and (now)Lupoi coming on, but the same could be said for Ty leaving too.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I don't care what Sportscenter said
I guess embarrassed isn’t a good word but I was very upset we lost after Keith’s performance. I was still proud to walk away from that game in purple!
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 6:02 AM PST up reply actions
Myself as well.
I was not embarrassed. They almost beat Baylor, bad as their defense was.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know a Dawg fan who was embarrassed by our team
My Dad and I left that game saying how happy we were for Keith and Sark. That we were proud of how we played. But we did say we were embarrassed by performance of the defense.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 6:01 AM PST up reply actions
Embarrassed is strong
I guess I should change that. I was upset we lost when our offense played so well. But I was proud to be a Dawg!
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 AM PST up reply actions
not even close
I was at the game and was no where near as embarrassed as in 2008. Baylor’s fans had nothing to be proud of in their defense either. I am confident Wilcox can tweak some things and make this defense one we can be more proud of.
"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis
by Carne Guisada on Jan 16, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
2008 was effortless fail.
2011 was fail full of effort. Big difference.
Our season overall was good
but our D was the all time worst defense in Washington history. That is a fact. But we did have a good season. Strange but true.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
Tweet from @GregBiggins
Interesting talk with Shaq T, he’s very close with Tosh but said he’s even closer with Wilcox, that’s who recruited his brother Syd to Cal
by wyte_lightning on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 PM PST reply actions
Wilcox recruited someone to Cal
Wow, that is good recruiting – being able to get a guy to go to a totally unrelated team. :p
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Wilcox was at Cal from 2003-2005
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I know, was just flipping shit
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
F_ck. . . .
. . . . YESSSSS!
Sark has simply amazed this off-season. He, has made some totally incredible moves and he’s upgraded the Dawgs on so many fronts. Least of which is siphoning off recruits that would otherwise consider our friends in Eugene.
Woof!
Hey OLDDOG!
Crazy off season, no?
And now Nick Montana leaving? I’ll say it again, Coach Sarkisian is a helluva man and is fast-becoming a great coach. To allow Montana to pursue his dreams elsewhere shows the type of good-character Sark has.
If you asked me, Montana is making a big mistake. What Sark is doing with Price is short of awesome. Can you imagine if Sark landed Heaps in that class?
Heaps and Montana would have continued to thrive and more than likely make it in the pros if they’d signed on and stayed (respectively) with Coach Sark.
It would have been insane if you guys got all three qb’s?
These two new big coaching hires by Sark is exactly what I was saying early on about Sark: he’s the true real deal.
Good luck to the Huskies, I hope you guys whoop ass on Oregon next year.
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 17, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
The irony is that there was always a good chance that Nick would wind up w/
significant playing time in relief of Price, simply because Price has had injury issues. I love KP, and hope he heals and stays healthy, but big time college football programs always want a GOOD backup, and many of those ‘backups’ wind up as the long term starter . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Been saying
for over a year now that we needed and were going to get, a “full-time” D-Line coach. While I knew we were going to get one – I didn’t know it would be Tosh – WOW! Also, didn’t see how in the world this hire would go past LOI day – I thought Wednesday by the latest, turned out to be Monday instead!
Latest Offensive Coordinator rumor
Courtesy of Bob Condotta;
Football Scoop saying Jimmie Dougherty could be UW’s new OC and QBs coach. Would leave opening for WR coach, then.
Who would be options for wide receivers coach? I’ll take Jerome Pathon for $100, Alex . . .
not sure currently
I know he was coaching Franklin H.S. in Seattle for a bit. I also know that Gilby had always been on Mario’s case about finishing his degree so he could get into coaching at the college level.
A name you
may VERY well see is Junior Adams, WR Coach at Eastern Washington. Sark saw their WR’s up close and personal and they made an impression.
by onewoodwacker on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Wow I can't believe how fast all these hires have happened and how amazing they've been.
I don’t remember what I was doing, this news completely derailed my day…
Thompson and Tosh
Tosh was in Shaq’s house last night. And talked to him this morning Adding the relationship with Wilcox. We have a great chance
Tara Turnure
She said Shaq is now 50/50 between Cal and UW. After already committing to Cal the other week, I like UW’s chances.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Lawyer Milloy
Is now getting in the action. He tweeted to Shaq that he would look good in purple and gold.
Ha, did he really?
Lotsa kudos to him for that.
I hope Sarkisian sends him an appropriate “thank you” gift if it helps Shaq choose UW.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Congratulations....CGB is in full meltdown mode right now
It will be definitely nice for the UW and Oregon games to have national implications again.
Quite understandable, really.
Imagine losing a recruiter whose reputation is such that he’s regarded as one of the best recruiters in the country.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Just stopped over to their website
And they are at 713 posts as of now.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
It makes a lot of sense
Cal’s recruiting has been top 25 for the last few years and top 10 a couple times – and it’s basically because of Lupoi. It’s functionally equivalent to Pete Carroll leaving.
What’s scarier to think of is Cal’s ability to recruit combined with competent coaching.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
a few general thoughts on this hire
This is obviously huge news, and we’re all digesting it. After taking a few moments for the shock to wear off, a few thoughts:
- It’s exciting to see the reaction from guys like Shaq & Shittu, and it wouldn’t surprise me if we’re able to peel off a Cal recruit or two and a few other highly rated guys still considering us.
- That said, the BIG impact will come starting with the following recruiting class (2013) – with a full year plus on staff and recruiting for us, imagine the impact that Lupoi, Sirmon & Wilcox will have.
- On the other hand, it’s also important to note that Cal has a lot of things going for it – while Tosh I’m sure is an excellent recruiter, Cal itself is a fantastic school academically in a great area with really good weather, and far enough away from SoCal to be a place for those kids to “get away” without truly being really far away – is it fair to expect that Tosh will recruit just as successfully here?
- Still, this is a tough blow to Cal. That Sark not only improved his own staff, but did so at the expense of a conference division rival is doubly huge. In many ways, the rise of Cal has been as tough on Husky fortunes as anything else – in the glory days under DJ, Washington did very well in Central California.
Location
good point on Cal being in a great location. But I will raise you with the our new stadium and facilities.
Cal's getting those, too. And theirs are more expensive than ours.
UW has an edge on history and tradition, though.
their new stadium and facilities are very nice
The new Husky Stadium will be better though.
And don’t get me wrong – the UW has a ton going for it as well. I just wonder if Lupoi will be as successful recruiting here as he was at Cal.
Oh, man, I just saw that myself
I was just about to post that.
Also, love this comment
LOL WASHINGTON UR DOIN’ IT WRONG
If you spend 2.78 Newtons on your top recruiter, you won’t have enough left over for the players.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. — Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
by DevilGrad on Jan 16, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
All you need to win the title is 1 Newton.
I am in favor of no sport which puts a stick in the hands of an Irishman – K.K.R.
by saxattack29 on Jan 16, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Tosh Lupoi's facebook profile pic:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tosh-Lupoi/100000496976774
assuming that’s him, of course. …makes sense for a young coach to have a facebook page, but never really thought about it much up until now
Yeah, I'd say that's him.
Most of his other pics are all about Cal (whoops!)
by wyte_lightning on Jan 16, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
affected recruits
From perusing the various sites, seems like these are the guys affected by the Tosh move that Washington has the best shot at:
- Shaq Thompson – If I had to guess, I’d say UW ends up with Shaq on Signing Day
- Pio Vatuvei – Still technically a USC commit, but the Trojans may not have room and Pio liked both the Dawgs and Lupoi, so if he’s without a spot with USC, seems like a pretty good chance we’re now his backup plan
- Cedric Dozier – We’ve heard that there are private reasons why he wanted to get away from home, but it sounds like Tosh leaving may spur him to reconsider
- Arik Armstead – Probably a longshot to get him up here since he’s used up all his official visits elsewhere, but I wouldn’t count him out with Tosh at the UW – maybe his family can get him up here unofficially
I'd be quite happy if it was just Shaq Thompson that UW landed.
And if they do not nab any of them, I’m still rather excited for this class at this point.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Shaq seems like the best bet
But yeah, as much as anything this helps weaken Cal, and the big recruiting impact of this move will be seen next year and beyond.
Shaq Thompson
We will definitely find out soon enough.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
re: Armstead
Just talked to Guss Armstead,father of Armond,Arik…Tosh Lopoi & Tedford visited Arik at Elk Grove home last night,together.Stunned at news
via https://twitter.com/#!/sb_joedavidson/status/159054087017594881
Very odd situation for him.
Husky D is back!!
Can’t wait to see UW vs. USC for the PAC12 title next year at the CLink. OK maybe I’m getting a little ahead of my self but its fun to dream. What I do know for sure is Cal and Oregon fans are worried about the aggressive moves Sark is making. Their blogs are fun to read. GO DAWGS!!
Condotta:
Just talked to Lakes coach Dave Miller who said it "wouldn’t surprise’’ him if Cedric Dozier now opens things up with Lupoi now at UW, Dozier has long been a commit to Cal but Miller said he had been close to taking visit to UW and this may make him take one now "I know him and Cedric are real, real tight,‘’ Miller said of Lupoi and Dozier. He said it won’t hurt with recruitment of Banner, either, but said it won’t have quite the same effect since Banner hadn’t been considering Cal as seriously and didn’t have same relationship.
https://twitter.com/#!/bcondotta
Hmm...
From Kevin Carden
#Cal WR commit Jordan Payton says he is still committed but plans to now visit #Washington or #UCLA and “figure things out.”
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 16, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I think they're going to need to issue helmets to the staff
when we go to Berkeley this year. We just became their biggest home game.
a 17 year old just tweeted that Sark has been playing golf all week in Hawaii
must be true, I haven’t seen him or heard any woofs.
in Seattle
Hec ed toniight for banner and in home for lindquist
by CODawg on Jan 16, 2012 9:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
pretty sure it was a joke by dawgdude
I really doubt he thought that tweet he was referencing was true.
After that tweet from Lawyer to Shaq, Shaq is now trying to ask him about UW
Twitter and recruiting, crazy what can happen nowadays.
Don't believe
Lawyer tweeting Shaq is a recruiting violation as Lawyer is NOT a “representative” of the UW football program.
by onewoodwacker on Jan 16, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Former players are 100% representative of the UW football program.
Me and you are representative of the UW football program too. The NCAA doesn’t have time to inspect fans tweeting recruits, but if you buy tickets or donate to the UW you are a representative.
Romar can’t just have Brandon Roy talk to all of the basketball recruits about how great the UW is.
People associated with the university technically aren't allowed to recruit at all.
That association can be anything, former player, donor, whatever. Will the NCAA enforce it in this situation? Most likely not, but that doesn’t change that it is still a minor violation for former UW players to reach out to recruits and tell them to come to UW.
So when current players are allowed to aid recruiting, how is it that former players aren't?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Also, just how do you know how the NCAA defines "association"?
And that it includes former players?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Here's the rule
The rules:
Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization
Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization
Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes
Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families
Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution’s athletics program
So an ex-player tweeting ‘come here!’ technically violates #1. A fan tweeting ‘come here’ technically violates #2, though I believe in both cases the question isn’t whether or not they are a bad association but whether tweeting constitutes an aid.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
tweeting at him is the same as yelling at him from across the street or from up in the stands.
… it is not a violation.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
That isn't true.
It’s essentially the same as a text, which would be a violation.
I disagree. I cannot see how that's a violation per the rules that you stated.
First off, that’s way too vague to even make the conclusion that it was a violation.
In the above, “agency” and “organization” are not defined, therefore, neither do not mean specifically a university or any school for that matter. Also, the manner of participation is not defined as well, therefore we do not know if that actually includes former players.
But let’s say that Rule #1 was violated, and that terms “agency” and “organization” actually means a university – in this case, the University of Washington – and that it definitely includes former players and members, which I take to include current players, then let’s consider that because current players do aid recruiting efforts, it must stand to be a fact that that is a violation.
However, because current players are allowed to aid recruiting (correct me if I’m wrong), provided they do not run afoul of specific recruiting stipulations, it therefore stands to reason that former players are allowed to, or at least, reach out to prospective recruits, provided that they have not been assisting recruiting a prospect at the request of the athletics staff, or that they have not been making financial contributions to the athletics department, oran athletics booster organization, or that they have not been assisting current players, providing benefits to to current student athletes or their families.
If there is something that says specifically that former players cannot reach out to prospective recruits, then yes, it’s a violation. However, nothing above there specifies that.
Also, let’s consider Milloy’s statement:
@ItsShaqThompson – You would look nice in Purple & Gold. Whatever you decide… The best of luck
That’s really no different than saying, “Man, you’d look good in wearing that red tie,” and wishing him the best on his decision, regardless of what that person chooses. In the literal context of his statement, all Milloy is doing is offering an opinion on another person’s potential appearance based on his own subjective tastes.
Yeah, I do not see how Milloy’s comment is a violation.
(By the way, that link doesn’t work.)
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
even if it is...
…it’s of the “barely a blip on the NCAA radar” variety, the kind where the UW would send Lawyer a letter saying “thanks, but you can’t do that, please stop” and that would be that.
Quite right you are.
Or at least, that’s how I understand it.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
Does this link work? their website isn’t exactly link-friendly.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Thank you.
I went and found it. This is what it says:
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program;
“Agency” and “organization” are still not clearly defined, thus as I said before, we cannot actually know if that includes former players.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
depends on how you read that clause
It’s not written clearly, but it could be that the intention of that clause is as follows:
“Have participated in an institution’s intercollegiate athletics program, or be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program”
OK
So I live just down the road from Cyler Miles. I am huge husky fan but, I am not an alum, season ticket holder and have never donated any money to the university other than for a handful of games I have seen in person. Could I go take Cyler some purple and gold cookies or, maybe take him to dinner with his parents?
I just want to make sure i dont commit any violations.
Check out the UW compliance page...
http://www.gohuskies.com/ot/compliance-fans.html
And the PDF therein. Sounds like you don’t technically meet the definition of a “booster”, although whether or not you’re “otherwise promoting UW athletics” is kind of vague.
I think if you lived in the neighborhood of a kid who was considering attending UW (whether or not he/she was a perspective student athlete) then it would be just fine for you to deliver him or her some tasty cookies. That’s how I read it, anyway.
When in doubt, email the compliance office, I suppose. (There’s a link to the compliance guy on the page linked above.)
Thanks
I wasnt actually considering this but trying to shed light on the whole topic. Next time i see him at my favorite bar having dinner with his family, maybe I will just offer to pay for the drinks. Especially, if i am wearing Purple and Gold. And give his parents an open invite to watch all future Husky games.
That actually is a violation
Buying drinks for a prospective player is absolutely a violation – it would also be a violation if it were a current player.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Which this guy doesn't have
Unless you count ‘stalking’ as a prior relationship
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
just pointing out one of the exceptions to that rule
And for all we know, maybe Lawyer Milloy has a prior relationship to Shaq Thompson.
Actually, no, it would not be a violation if it were a current player.
Per the compliance guide:
Boosters may:
* Provide an occasional meal for a current student-athlete (please contact the Compliance Office for more information) and….
First, I seriously doubt that he’d be classified as a booster. According to him, he’s only purchased goods from UW or those selling and merchandising UW goods, but not actually donated money to them, and none of these meet the criterias that they posted, vague as they are. Because of this, he’s not classified as a booster.
But in the case that he is by chance classified as a booster, he is indeed allowed to buy a current student a meal.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
because they are former players
That said, I think UW11Bowdown is a little bit off in his understanding – pretty sure to be considered a booster, a person has to be contributing financially to the program. No idea if Lawyer is making/has made contributions or not, though it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if he has.
A regular fan can say all he wants to convince Shaq to come to the UW, so long as that fan doesn’t contribute to the program. I don’t recall if being a season ticket holder counts, or if you actually have to be a Tyee to be considered a booster.
Either way . . .
it’s a minor secondary violation. NO BIG DEAL.
It’s not like we paid Lawyer Milloy $25K to steer him our direction.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Included in your season ticket prices
Is a building for excellence fund fee, so yes technically you are donating to UW just by buying tickets.
Lawyer contacting Shaq might be a minor violation
Shaq replying back would not be. Either way, I doubt there’d be anything more than a slap on the wrist for it. Hard to control social media messages, especially for a former player who has no direct involvement with the program at present.
Nick Montana going to JC in Texas..
Bummer, could have used you next year…
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it is going to be a bi-product of having a strong QB core. Only room for 1 starter.
I’d expect this to happen more down the line as Sark is able to nab big time HS QB’s and then they end up moving on because they want time. Good luck to Nick though!
If this increases our chances of keeping both our recruits from this year
and/or getting Browne, I’m fine with it. As long as KP1’s knees hold up (knock on wood!!!!).
And now, for my very elaborate and college-educated plan!'
Ill bet Brown would've beat him out.
We aren’t hurting at the position next year.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
We kind of are...
our QB depth and experience was bad before and is now among the worst in the PAC.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
depth is OK, experience is bad
Assuming Miles sticks with his commitment, we’ll have 4 QB’s on scholarship next year, which is fine. The issue is experience, as none of them will have any other than Price.
What have you heard about Derrick Brown?
I’ve heard people mention, similar to what a few said about Price, that he’s talented and shouldn’t be overlooked. I’m not saying he would have surpassed Montana, but it sounds like he’s could be a pretty capable QB.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
heard good things
Big strong kid, good runner, powerful arm. Definitely got the impression that Nick would have his work cut out for him holding off Brown for the backup role.
Talent trumps experience.
I think it’s dubious that Montana’s experience from last season would’ve trumped Brown’s talent this spring.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
Price didn't look like anything special last season in his start at Oregon.
Yet, another year under Sark in this system and he breaks the school’s single season TD record. I really wanted to see what another year would have done for Nick.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Actually
Price looked pretty damn good against Oregon considering the circumstances and the lack of protection.
#bowdown
They had really similar games
under a lot of pressure with a vanilla short passing game plan. I vividly remember KP sailing passes and managing to buy time before throwing it away every other attempt. He filled in adequately, just like Nick did. No more, no less.
Nah
KP looked better in his first start. I don’t mean to rag on Nick however, because the comparison doesn’t matter now. I appreciate his work and his time and wish him well.
Are you sure about that.
Most people questioned Keith Price’s arm strength and his ability to make accurate throws after his game against Oregon.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think
most of us came away feeling better about Price than we did after Montana’s first start.
That said, I am sorry to see him go but I do think he is making the right decision. Heck he could be play at UCLA in 2013 for all we know.
Maybe everyone else
but I didn’t. The only positives out of that game for KP were that he didn’t turn it over.
interesting
I would say i was super excited, just that I felt better about him after one start than did after Montana’s one start
I definitely felt better about KP's start than Montana's start at OSU
Without a doubt. At the same time though, Montana’s start we were supposed to win regardless of who was QB. Our entire team played badly against the Beavers, remember ASJ’s drop? Keith’s start we expected to lose at Oregon so the fact we were close in the 3rd quarter made his start look better.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
not a huge impact
from what we saw of him this year he didn’t look anything more then an average qb. plus with the talent we have coming in i really don’t think its gonna hurt us any.
Having an "average" QB for a backup . . .
can be a priceless commodity.
Hate to see Nick go, I wish him the best.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Agree
Think he was better than average though especially with another year of coaching and strength training in our program. Probably saw writing on wall – Brown maybe better plus with the two highly touted QBs coming in not much playing time – but with Price being as fragile as he is may have been a golden opportunity.
Like you said hate to see him go and wish him the best.
by lorenzothedog on Jan 16, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
One big shout out to...
Scott Woodward. Thank you for opening up the pocket book and allowing Sark to make these additions. Can’t be overstated how important his contributions have been since his arrival
by bigdave967 on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Great Point.
A tip of the cap to Scott Woodard. The stadium is getting done. They are spending the money on coaches, proving they are serious about football. Very impressed with the job he is doing.
meant to be here
+1
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 16, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
+1
"The same thing that will make you laugh will make you cry." Ray Lewis
by Carne Guisada on Jan 16, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
absolutely
So much for the Husky Half Brain view that Woodward was a “scarftard” and just a non-descript buddy-buddy hire by Emmert. All he’s done is oversee the long-overdue renovation of Husky Stadium, hired Sark and given him the checkbook authority to make big moves.
Sark does it again..
what an amazing 3 weeks, we now have the coaching staff that will bring us to Rose Bowls. last week a commenter on Cal’s blog said UW stealing away Tupoi was just “delusional thinking from the most delusional fan base in college football”. lol
"Attending Washington State is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
by 206Dawgs on Jan 16, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I remember that!
Love their reaction now :)
#bowdown
Nice get for you guys. Didn't think it would happen, but 500k and a promotion is tough to turn down.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
According to some random source we also gave Lupoi a boat
That is hilarious.
Cal...
“Oh no…we suck again”
I couldn’t help myself
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by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Great hire by Sark
I’m very happy for us as a team and fanbase. This offseason was a big point in his career, and he nailed it. He has brought our team back into the national conversation. I love it, I bark for Sark. Woof!
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