The Monday Morning Wash
by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 6:55 AM PST
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PrintWe start the morning off with news that Bellevue OL Michael Kneip has committed himself to Washington as a preferred walk-on who has a good shot of eventually winnng a scholarship. That is real good news...Washington could use 20 guys just like him to help fill the roster out with quality to the August camp 105 limit.
If you can build your roster with 85 solid BCS players supplemented with 20 kids who could be playing in the Big Sky or the WAC you can build a very strong program. Washington has the ability to recruit to fill out the roster in that manner under Sarkisian.
Kneip had offers from Yale and Idaho State but the Bellevue coaching staff thinks that the 6'5 295 lb offensive lineman has enough upside to be a decent Pac 12 player. Mike says he bleeds purple and his film reveals a nasty streak that should suit him well over the next five years.
More Recruiting
The Huskies hosted nine athletes this past weekend but we don't have any new of any commitments as of yet. The three kids from Poly High in Long Beach were at the basketball game last night and will be heading home on Monday because of the three game weekend.
UW did have a surprise visitor this past weekend. Oregon State commit CB Cleveland Wallace who hails from the Bay area is considering following new UW DB coach to Washington.
Brostek?
Shane Brostek visited UCLA this past weekend and at this point does not have an official visit scheduled to Washington. That could change pretty quickly over the next two weeks but his recruitment is becoming kind of a head scratcher at this point since all the experts say he is a UW lock. Tough to be a lock if you don't visit..
Dawgs, Cats, and Apples
Terrence Ross exploded for 30 points last night to lead Washington past Washington State 75-65 at Hec Ed on Sunday night. 26 of those points came in the second half and were the main reason the Huskies were able to overcome a ten point deficit and rally for the win. Cal and Stanford visit the 4-1 Huskies next week in Seattle.
Nuss?
We keep hearing that UW OC Doug Nussmier is the number one choice of Nick Saban to be the next Alabama offensive coordinator. Softy's site says that it could be a foregone conclusion. Keep in mind that Nuss doesn't call plays in Seattle and he would be in pretty much complete charge of the offense in Tuscaloosa. If he ends up getting the offer he will be leaving.
Tosh?
Washington is still going after Cal DL coach Tosh Lupoi and insiders are predicting he will be moving to Seattle after LOI day. Brand X is saying it already a done deal. Not sure if it is true but we do know that Washington decided to offer the kitchen sink which is pretty tough for a guy making $164,000 a year to turn down.
Paterno?
Joe is running out of time on earth and needs to get it right and honest with his soul. He apparently isn't doing that and his recent excuses around the dinner table aren't generating much sympathy.
Joe needs to take responsibility that he was part of (or even helped instigate) a cover up that allowed numerous children to continue to be abused on and off the campus of Penn State by former DC Jerry Sandusky.
"I didn't know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was," he told The Post in an extensive two-day interview at his home in State College, Pa. "So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn't work out that way."
Neuheisel?
Rick is probably going to sit out a year or two and grab an open analyst seat at ESPN.
"Jim’s (Mora) got a good football team coming back," Neuheisel said. "I believe in those kids and I know he’ll enjoy those guys. He’ll be a good fit from the standpoint that he’s a defensive guy. That whole league now is about offense, with Rich Rod at Arizona, Mike Leach at Washington State, all the other offenses that are already pretty-well entrenched. He’s going to have to get his hands wet early to make sure that he can stop those guys."
Thomas leaving Oregon?
You would think that a guy that stands a good chance of not being drafted would hang around for another year and graduate. Maybe he knows something about Oregon's future that we don't know? Maybe...Maybe not because Kenjon Banner will be returning in 2012.
USC and the LA Coliseum
LA is a strange football town. The largest city in the country doesn't have an NFL franchise and the the two major BCS schools which are located in the area do not own or have control of their football stadiums.
That may be changing soon because it looks like USC will be gaining sole control of the 88 year old LA Coliseum which is located adjacent to the Trojan campus. USC reportedly will dump $100 million into the stadium over the next couple of years.
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Nuss and Tosh
I usually am very cold to any coach or player who wants to leave my team, but this is a good career move for Nuss and I can’t blame him. He will be THE offensive Coordinator for the defending national champs. Good luck to him and his family. Weather is pretty rough down here in the south, hope he enjoys that! I had to throw the weather in there, couldn’t let him leave unscaithed! Now the question becomes who do we replace him with? What impact will this have on recruits?
Getting Tosh would be huge for us. Let’s hope this is true. Our D in my opinion is about to do a complete 180 this season. I’m going to predict a top 40 defense this season. I wouldn’t be surprised either cause the more I watched Holt, the more I realized he COULDN’T coach kids!
As far as recruiting goes, this is good news. I’ve always loved walk-ons, kinda the true underdog story. Michael Kneip, I look forward to seeing him in purple and lighting opposing D lineman up for the Dawgs! The fact that he bleeds purple just makes me like him more.
It's pro football.
This is a business. The PSA’s are more independent contractors than amateur athletes. The moral outrage could find a more more deserved cause.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
No "good riddance" speech for Nussmeier?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
No
This is a good move for Nuss. Good luck to him. You guys have no faith in me?
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 4:16 AM PST up reply actions
Well, you did basically say that if a person didn't want to a be Dawg for life, that they should get out, and good riddance.
How about Nick Montana? No similar feelings?
Isn’t it possible that for Martin, it was a good move for him, as well?
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
Martin
It could have been a good move for Martin, but with all the changes being made, do you really think Sark was going to keep Martin?
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
I don't really think much of anything about whether Sarkisian was going to keep Martin or not.
I don’t know.
The evidence to date suggests that Sarkisian might have let him go. However, Sarkisian also might have kept Martin on board, given Martin’s ability to recruit, and because Sarkisian has made moves to bring guys on board who are known for their recruiting prowess, it’s certainly possible that Martin could have been retained.
That said, the fact is, Martin was approached by Jim Mora and accepted his offer to join his coaching staff. He made that choice for himself, and he may have really found it in his best interest to join Mora’s staff.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Lupoi rumor
As much as I would like to have Lupoi I think it is a pretty Shi… thing that he would announce his hiring after LOI day. The kids that are going to CAL because of him and now he jumps ship right after signing day that is BS.
Great Bball game last night finally played like a team in second half hope this continues.
I agree
Wrotten really got the team going in the second half. Ross was electric, FINALLY! It’s going to be a loong season though, I didn’t like the fact that we had to come from behind in that game. I do like that we won and you can only hope for that.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 16, 2012 7:15 AM PST up reply actions
Agree
I can’t see the importance being placed on the LOI day either. IMO – kids deserve to know their coach will be gone – BEFORE – they sign. Waiting until after they sign makes it smell like he tricked them. That said, I can’t/won’t disagree with those who suggest this theory.
For me, the more likely scenario is that Tosh is simply giving Cal every opportunity to match the UW offer. Problem for Cal is – they can’t, so Tosh is left trying to rationalize his LOVE for Cal versus his dilemma of; why am I working in a city that costs 2x’s what Seattle cost while making 1/3 the money?
“I” believe it much more realistic that Sark has made it clear to Tosh – tell me by Wednesday (01-18-2012) or the offer is gone.
by onewoodwacker on Jan 16, 2012 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
the Cal recruits can just ask
clearly they have seen the rumors too. I agree with the BS and don’t think his status can stay in limbo for over two weeks.
You're over stating the difference in cost of living.
SF is egregious, but Oakland/Berkeley is much more manageable. The COL is higher (1.9x ave vs 1.5x ave), but not nearly as bad; the big factor is the state income tax.
Irrelevant - the hiring of Tosh is official - DL coach and run game coordinator
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jan 16, 2012 11:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The point is
You don’t attend a university because of a coach. Coache’s will rarely guarantee they will be there and if they do many are lying.
Yeah, if I was a recruit
I would consider it a d*** move to find out that the coach who I wanted to player for quit for another job after I signed my LOI
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Paterno
The more I think of this guy the more I despise him and Penn State as a University. I say make them sit out for a year, allow the kids to transfer, and fix whatever the hell is going on there. The fact that he admits that he knew and he “was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was,” is a joke. He was afraid, how does he think the kids feel? What a horrible human being! I hope he is never allowed near anything to do with college football again. The only thing I will remember him for is this.
+1 !
Another slap in the face…good ol’ family (decentcy) and community are waiting for this country to “come back home”…
Paterno II : The only thing I will remember him for is this?
I wouldn’t be so hasty to judge the entire life works of a man or the entire overall historical good of an educational institution based on a single incident that was poorly handled from start to finish by all involved.
I don’t think that the majority of us understand or even begin to comprehend what Joe Paterno built at Penn State in a career that spanned 61 years on the same campus. He just didn’t build a complete football program and athletic department. He helped build a small cow college into a Big Ten research university.
All parties involved in this matter have used poor judgement and that poor judgement is still be exercised today. Once something goes this bad it is pretty tough to get the train back up on the tracks.
Paterno, Penn State, and all other involved will always have a major asterisk by their name in association with how badly this incident was handled. That being said I don’t believe that everything positive Paterno did over the years needs to be forgotten as part of the punishment.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
I’d tend to agree if it was almost any other infraction but looking the other way while children are being abused is about as low as an adult can stoop. Especially one with the means to quickly put an end to it. That asterisk will be VERY big in my book.
Mine too
if it was something like Tressel at OSU, I could look the other way. Or like Pete Carrol and Reggie Bush like, I can get over that. Kids being molested, that’s the worse crime a human can commit in my mind. He will not get a pass from me. No way he gets to turn the other cheek for the benefit of his football program with this going on. It’s horrible!
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 4:19 AM PST up reply actions
This wasn't the first time Paterno's shown such horrible choices
Only the most recent and probably the worst.
Remember the time when he defended the charges of rape against his kids with ‘those girls come by and…well, what can you do?’ Or told campus police that he’d handle any crimes internally, including assault? Or when after seeing nothing happen to Sandusky for 8 years he let him hang around campus and attend practices?
This wasn’t just him screwing up once; this was the product of how he ran Penn State. How everything funneled to him, how crimes weren’t crimes if they were committed by football players and apparently coaches. How he controlled an institution that had the instinct of covering things up and denying things when confronted by an unspeakable evil. That is his legacy. That legacy allowed for unparalleled success, but it did so in the same way that Lehman brothers had unparalleled success for a while; it’s easy to have success when you also have the ability to repress the knowledge of any failure.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I love
the intensity and importance Sark is putting into the DL.
One of the things that proved to be consistant over the 35 years I coached this game was;
Give me GREAT O&D Lines, Kicker and Punter, with an above average QB and CB’s and average player every where else -
versus -
GREAT WR’s, TE, RB’s, LB’s, Safeties an above average QB and CB’s and average O&D Lines, Kicker and Punter – and I will be you 9 out of 10 times.
You don’t win the game very often when you don’t win the LOS and the field position game.
John -
100% agree with your analysis of the Brostek recruitment. It has had me scratching my head for the past 3 months too.
I wonder if there’s an indecision of where Shane wants to play and where Sark wants him to play? OG – OC – DT? Personally, I have believed all along that we were recruiting him as a DT. His is cat quick and VERY strong and has even lined up as a LB.
He could play on either side of the ball...
I don’t think Sark would be too concerned if he wanted to start off on defense.
The visit to UCLA doesn’t surprise at all with Mora now at the helm. As we have seen with legacies lately…they aren’t slam dunks.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
CB Cleveland Wallace
Sorry – not bashing on Wallace here, but I’m not overly thrilled about a CB who has a reported best 40 time of 4.65 either. To put that number into perspective – Jarett Finau – a 6-3/255 LB runs a 4.65-40.
Yes – the difference between a 4.45 abd a 4.65 is only a step, but not very often do you get away with giving up a step to a WR.
While its great that he has reported “good closing speed and good technique” – those traits are mainly usable while the ball is in front of you.
40 times
4.65 doesn’t work at CB but I don’t believe in any of the 40 times I see published on Scout or Rivals anyway. I think you need to put a little faith in the coaches that they wouldn’t bring in a kid who was too slow to play the position in the Pac 12.
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by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Tell me "Brand x" isn't manbearpig.
That “woman” has been wrong more than she’s been right.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
by Steen on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Rock Paper Scissors
She would have been stoned in the Old Testament days.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Jan 16, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
I like when you're mean, John.
Makes me feel better about inky black soul.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
That's a lie
Whether you feel like Ruth is attractive or not is immaterial. She’s gotten good scoop over the years and has been right more than she’s been wrong. But if you think you’re correct them list all them all here.
The woman is scum.
She represents all the is gross and disgusting about the fan side of the recruiting process. You need to rethink your opinion on Ruth if it’s anything other than that she’s an embarrassment to the University and the football program.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
couldn't agree more
She may be right a lot of the time (though she’s had some big-time misses), but she’s an embarrassment to recruiting coverage.
That's Funny! King James ...If He Was Here Today Would Say...
“That Would Sucketh”…
I am being told...
…that Nuss cleaned out his office last night and is headed to Alabama.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
Good for Nussmeier.
I can’t blame a coach for leaving for Alabama. It’s a chance to run his own offense, call the plays, and to study under Nick Saban. This will be great for his resume. I also think this is somewhat good for UW and Sark. Having assistants move up due to success is only going to help the perception of the program and aid in finding a replacement.
I’m not all that concerned for the UW losing Nuss. He was a great QB coach, but it’s Sark’s system and Price isn’t going to suddenly regress without Nuss. Sark has proven with the Wilcox hire, that UW is a very desirable place to work. We should have no problems finding a very high quality replacement for Nussmeier. The question is, do you find a new coordinator, or find a new QB coach and promote one of the other offensive assistants.
I agree.
I remember when Holt first came to UW, I was worried that he’d be gone rather quickly for a HC job if he had a lot of success. Now I really wish that had been the case!
by Mind of no mind on Jan 16, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
My first reaction
Contained even stronger language…
by TualatinDawg on Jan 16, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Tosh is now official
This has been one hell of an offseason
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Like I said . . .
Sark has a talent for creating a very, very positive attitude each and every off season. He is now 3 for 3.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Wow, the future must be awfully bright!
I can’t wait to see the best month ever.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Not really
That was, after all, last month.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Gotta love your attitude!
we like you around here!
by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
It was 11 days ago, which is very much this month
And before you say that you meant December, you also included this:
Maybe even the worst couple of months
And even without recent happenings it still wasn’t true.
Troll on.
If you like
Like I said in that thread, a lot of it was talkign to my friends. Which, at the time, were pretty miserable. Even with Tupoi it was still pretty raw.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
err, Wilcox
Stupid lack of edit.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I might go drink the tears at California golden Blogs.
They were so adamant we couldn’t get him. Ahhh…Schadenfreude! Nom. Nom. Nom.
I'm so positive, you'll need AZT later.
Drink? H*ll, you could take a shower . . .
by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
or fill a lake!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
I just could not
see this thing dragging out past LOI day. I figured we would have a definite response no later than Wednesday. Today will work just fine though!!
Change of pace.
If you didn’t catch Sunday’s game on TV, QBSacker has the highlights (via Divish) here. If nothing else, skip to 7:30 for the insane alley-oop. One of these days I expect Romar to go full on hulkomania and lose a suit.
Kind Of Surreal Week For The Dawgs...
Bittersweet news about Nuss…but, as the dust settles on it all… Sarks Offense is more than capable-post Locker and now the defense is about to take off in a very big way! The best part in my opinion is the fact that we have a couple weeks of recruiting buzz to take through the finish line! I get excited about “this” offense with a “real” big boy defense! It’s gonna get very interesting…
temper expectations for this class
Lupoi is a major get, but recruiting is generally a long-term thing. Just because a kid committed to Cal or was strongly interested in Cal because Lupoi was recruiting him doesn’t mean he’ll flip to Washington with two weeks to go. We may get 1 or 2 guys this class, but I wouldn’t expect a big wave (though of course I’d love it and won’t rule it out).
The bigger impact will be down the road with 2013 guys and beyond…
Not to mention, it may be a year or two before we see a "big boy" defense.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM!!
Rosebowl titles last 90 years, UW 8, UO 1...
Twitter @DAWGFATHER91
by DAWGFATHER91 on Jan 16, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
No idea
But they had a historically bad season under Greg Robinson, and their FEI went from 109 to 16. Expecting that from Wilcox wouldn’t be realistic, but moving up into the 50-60 range wouldn’t be out of the range of possibility. If only UW got to play against B1G “offenses” instead of the big boy ones it sees every week.
Yes, Michigan's defense improved drastically compared last year's defense.
Sounds more like an exception rather than the rule, since the kind of improvement that they made is considered a historical one.
It may take longer than one season to see that kind of improvement at UW. I think it’s fair that expectations should be tempered, regardless of what Michigan did.
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
If we can get a top 40 D
I’d be happy. We are talking 2 extra wins if we can play Defense even at that level.
by datboyeddiep on Jan 17, 2012 4:22 AM PST up reply actions
Top 40?
Top 60 would be good enough to get us a few more wins. I’ll be happy when we move into the top half of the nation, everything after that is icing on the cake.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Many schools have made big strides after firing their coordinator . . . .
Stanford, Michigan and Georgia are the most recent examples.
I definitely agree that it will take more than one season. I hope to see noticeable improvement in year one, but I don’t expect to immediately have a top defense. I’d expect to see the most improvement in year two and three.
On the subject of Nussmeier.
He’s a heckuva recruiter. When I check out recruits who commit to Washington, especially offensive players, I typically see Nussmeier’s name included as part of who was responsible for bringing the recruit to UW.
His recruiting abilities would have been useful.
we could lose Miles.
If Alabama offers does he go? i dont really know who he liked more Sark or Nuss. He has stated that it will depend on how we hire to replace Nuss.
Alabama is a long way from Denver . . .
but it is Alabama, you couldn’t blame the kid if he did. I’m sure Sark is doing everything possible to keep Miles.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Incidently, Thomas has graduated from the UO
so he is leaving a year of elegibility on the table, but finishing his degree
scrappy
it does to me
draft stock probably not going to go up, avoids the chance of injury, projected QB class next year is stronger than this year. There are a lot of good reasons. Surprised the author of this post didn’t look some of them up on Wiki before posting
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 17, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Give me a break. . .
there are more reasons for him not to go to the NFL, like NOT being drafted. He only gets paid if he makes somebodies roster. If he doesn’t make an NFL roster, he could have just ended his football career a year early.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
College isn't exactly a career
Especially when you’ve already graduated. All he’d be coming back for is to play football. And given the class of 2012, he has a better shot of going pro now than he does then – at least that’s what he thinks.
There are plenty of rational reasons to go right now. You may disagree with them, but that doesn’t make them invalid.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Tell that to every player . . .
that never plays another down of football after college. It’s possible Thomas will never take another snap again. He could end up in the CFL, or Arena league, but is that better than playing another season at Oregon? I’m POSITIVE he gets paid better by Oregon!!!
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Lots of things are possible
But if you’re really standing by the thought that a) Oregon pays their players significant amounts of money and b) this money for one year is worth more than the potential of getting 400k by getting on a team or any of the other possible ways to get paid post-college…you might want to think a bit about upping your meds, because that anti-paranoia thing? not working out so well for ya.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Glad somebody got it . . . .
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Sorry
after hearing so much shit about DT from Lear Pilot in the last few days, I figured it was another helping of shit from him. I’ll try to be more humorous in the future.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
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