The Prediction - Washington 35 Utah 27
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 6:20 AM PDT
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PrintI don't like this game. I haven't liked the way it sets up since the day it was scheduled.
You don't want to play Utah on the road early in the season. One of the problems the Utes will face as the season progresses is getting used to the grind of playing a quality conference opponent each week. No more in conference breathers with the likes of Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, and SDSU.
The Utes are far from being ground down at this point and are actually quite fresh coming off a rare early season bye week. Utah is 6-0 under Coach Whittingham coming off of bye weeks. So I guess we should all be shaking in our shoes.
This is one of those games that people in Utah are going to remember for a long time. This is the first Pac 12 home game for the Utah program. It was also made an early season homecoming game which means that anyone who is anybody who is associated with the school and football program will be in SLC this weekend.
This is going to be an emotional encounter and the Huskies need to be mentally prepared to handle it. Handling it means taking care of the ball against one of the nations top ball hawking defenses. The Utes have been living on the turnover and the Huskies need to tighten up that part of the game.
Unfortunate turnovers helped keep Hawaii and Cal from being blown out at Husky stadium. A turnover allowed the sky to start falling in the third quarter against Nebraska. Turnovers against Utah this weekend will mean that the Huskies have blown a great opportunity to pick up a decisive early season road win.
Vegas thinks that the Utes are seven points better than the Huskies ( it has been increased to more than ten since I wrote this) and I think that is a little steep. I think the game is more of a toss-up which would make the Utes a 3 point favorite since they are the home team. So where are those other 4 points are coming from?
Washington definitely has the edge on offense. Chris Polk is one of the best running backs in the country. He was held to only 60 yards on 20 carries last week but he did have a 70 yard TD reception that ended up being the decisive TD in the win over Cal.
Utah has been stingy against the run this season allowing only 2.6 yards per carry. The majority of those yards were given up against USC who picked up 151 against the Utes on the ground. Expect Polk to cross the century mark once again in this game.
Keith Price has exceeded everyone's expectation at quarterback. Price is by far the best young quarterback in a conference of veteran QB's. People are whispering that the only better quarterback in the conference right now is Andrew Luck.
Price leads the nation in TD passes (14) and has uncanny accuracy and touch in addition to being able to extend a play with his scrambling ability. He has plenty of quality targets to throw to and is connecting on over 67% of his tosses.
Defense has been a big problem for Washington. The Huskies are giving up an average of 34.75 points and 453 total yards per game. An average of 327 of those yards come through the air each game so the secondary hasn't exactly played up to expectations this season.
Utah isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut. They struggled to put points on the board at home in a 27-10 win over Montana State. They didn't get the job done in the red zone against USC on the road in a 23-14 loss which was decided on the last play of the game.
Utah QB Jordan Wynn has completed a little over 54% of his passes this season for an average of around 192 yards per game. He has five TD passes and only one interception. The offense is balanced with the Utes averaging 171 on the ground which is a solid total.
Field position is really important on the road. A big key to containing the Utah offense (or any offense for that matter) is to give them a long field to work with. The light air means that Erik Folk is going to be able to kick it out of the end zone on kickoffs.
The Huskies need to come out and take control of this game. Take control of this game early and you take the crowd and emotion out of the game. Washington is probably the better team but all the emotional intangibles point toward Utah for this one from the onset.
Now it is time to discuss the pick...I think the experience gained from playing on the road against Nebraska is a big plus for Washington. Even on its best day SLC will never match game day at Lincoln, Nebraska. Washington should be able to deal with the game day atmosphere.
Speaking of the actual atmosphere the Huskies will be playing at an elevation of 4226 feet above sea level. That could possibly be a huge advantage for the Utes if they can keep the Husky defense out there for extended periods of time. Maybe that is where those four extra Las Vegas points are coming from?
This is a definitely a tough one to predict but I am going with Washington because I truly believe they have the ability to outscore Utah. The performances of Keith Price, Chris Polk, and the depth at all the skill positions will be the difference in a 35-27 win on the road which will give the Huskies a 4-1 record heading into the bye week.
Beating Utah is really important.
If the Huskies can get it done I can see a 9-3 or 8-4 season coming over the immediate horizon.
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Managing the emotions of the situation, controlling the game early, and taking care of the ball are indeed keys for the Dawgs on Saturday. I agree that the experience in Lincoln is a big plus for us, and getting going early will be driven by our success in establishing the running game. The Offense has consistently performed well in the 1st half this year, and what will be crucial in this game is handling the Utah blitz packages. Their Defensive pressure seems to key off run blitzes, so I’d like to see us attack the edges and outside more often, ideally with some misdirection. Long, sustained drives with good first down yardage will help with the crowd, and keep our Defense rested. I honestly don’t know what to expect from our D this week, but if we win the turnover battle, and Polk gets 125+ on the ground, I think we win.
BTW, John, thanks for tossing that article from Joel McHale on the front page. I thought it was a very entertaining read, and find in general the stuff at Grantland to be smart, funny, and well-written.
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UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Now now now
I’ve heard that the Utah D is the liked we’ve never seen
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Sep 30, 2011 8:02 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Watch the USC game
It gives you pretty much what you need to know going forward about the Utes and how to beat them.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a quick FYI, Rice Eccles stadium itself is actually 4,657 feet above see level.
It sits on our campus which is located in what we call the mountain benches—which are a good deal higher than the valley floor.
Heat and altitude are both factors...
We didn’t do well in Provo last year…those were a couple of the reasons.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Utah deserves nothing less than a winless inaugural season in conference play. The time has come to do our part.
The Sun Devils can’t be trusted to beat the Utes, which is why it’s up to us to rip off their heads and leave their skulls piled on a field of blood and bones for Burfict to scavenge. I want all of the Utes who think that we’re no better and no different than Wyoming and Colorado State and New Mexico and whatever other scum they’re used to “playing” to run screaming home in horror to their mommies, begging and pleading for readmittance into the pathetic little FCS league from whence they came.
The next time that they hear that the Huskies are coming to their tiny little litterbox of a stadium, they’ll be too busy cowering under their beds to run their mouths at their betters.
I want them to cry. I want them to soil their pants. I want them to wander in shock through the rest of their little lives without sleep for their fear of the the Dawgs of the North who shall prey upon them in their nightmares until the day that they die and go to the hell that their gods have waiting for them.
The Utes must be destroyed.
BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON!
by Bugs Dodger on Sep 30, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Why Suppress Your True Feelings?
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I like you.
I look forward to seeing the Utes, like the mountainous hoards we are, crush the Huskies, see you driven before us, and hear the lamentations of your sweater-clad women.
Thank you.
Good luck tomorrow, and welcome to the Pac.
We’re delighted to have new friends to play with!
Wool still insulates when it's wet.
It’s what we old dudes wore before there were plastics.
by Bugs Dodger on Sep 30, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
If Dante was a football fan...
His writings would have been similar to what Bugs pumps out each week.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Amen
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Sep 30, 2011 9:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bugs is right. The Utes must pay. Now.
Everyone has been way too nice to the noobs.
Slotting them in the easy-squeezy, milk and honey Pac-12 South was enough of a gift. But then, to pile on a maiden schedule without Oregon and Stanford on it? By the time these guys finally play the Dux and Trees, they’ll both be sucking again, leaving Utah to wonder what all the fuss was about.
The rest of their schedule is ridiculous. Do you trust ASU to put them down? In SLC? I certainly don’t. They do travel to Cal for a decently tough game, but after that, it’s pretty much a Pac-12 charity cake walk and pinata stomp. Party hats, Ice cream for all.
They also play at Pitt, opening up a nightmare scenario in which the Utes roll through a candy-coated Pac-12 season, only interrupted by a ugly beat down to a Big East mediocrity, making our grand old conference look like national dog shit. Horrible… HORRIBLE!
No, the Utes must be made to look like what they are, which is a nice little MWC team moving way WAY up in class, and suffering for it. Now is the time, and Sark and Co. is the instrument.
by Hawnk on Sep 30, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You are RIGHT
UW is the only thing standing between order and Armageddon.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Sep 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Washington has already made the PAC look like "dawg shit"
For the past decade Washington has lost 60% of their OOC games.
The only time we made the PAC look bad is when we were in the MWC
some fun facts:
Utah and Washington had the honor of being the only teams with perfect records in 2008. Utah never lost and Wash never won.
Utah has more BCS bowl wins then anyone in the PAC 12 except USC.
In the past decade Washington has only finished better than 6 in the conference twice (2010, 2001), while they finished last four times (2008,2007,2005,2004).
Over the last decade Washington has a 18-36 (33%) record on the road while Utah has a 49-9 (84%) record over the same period.
Utah has more wins in the past 3 years than Wash has the past 8.
I don’t mean to be a troll, because I respect your team and I love being a part of this conference. But if you think Utah is going to roll over and take it in the ass because we used to be non-AQ, then you are in for a world of shock. Utah has more fight in them than any team in the PAC. We bring it on every down. It’s cute how the puppies are puffing up their chests and acting like they own the conference when we all know you haven’t done jack squat in years.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
My prediction simply put...
Utah takes the high hard one tomorrow against their will.
UW Dawg Pound - SBN Seattle
by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Utah's chances 33-25
But if I am wrong I have no problem coming here and congratulating the Huskies on their win.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
You are kinda thick...
UW’s OOC since 2003 includes:
BYU – 2
oklahoma – 2
LSU – 2
Ohio St – 2
Notre Dame -2
Nebraska – 3
Boise St
Utah’s?
Mich
Bama
Boise St 2
Notre Dame
Louisville
Ga Tech
And a run thru the PAC 10
Its just not enough to be calling out UW’s poor OOC record since 2003
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
You know you are right
Oregon
Oregon St.
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona St.
Cal
USC
Those are horrible OOC games, what was I thinking?
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't even include bowl games
Since that would be unfair to UW as they haven’t been to one for every year during that time.
Here is a quick summary of OOC during the regular season in the past decade:
Arizona 3
Boise st 1
Cal 1
Louiseville 2
Michigan 2
North Carolina 2
Notre Dame 1
Oregon 2
Oregon st 3
Pittsburgh 1
South Florida 1
Texas A&M 2
UCLA 2
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You are hiding your cupcake games, you sneaky little man
UW OOC since 2001:
Air Force 1
Boise St 1
BYU 2
Fresno st 2
Idaho 5
Indiana 1
LSU 1
Miami 1
Michigan 2
Nebraska 1
Nevada 1
Notre Dame 4
Ohio st 2
Oklahoma 2
San Jose st 3
Syracus 2
Wyoming 1
I count 15 non AQ teams and 3 really shitty AQ team (Syracus & Indiana). Congratulations you beat some crappy teams to get to 18 wins.
Wow that really backfired on you there didn’t it?
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
These are the teams UW beat OOC in the last 10 years
Boise st 1
Fresno st 1
Idaho 4
Michigan 1
San jose st 3
Syracuse 2
Wyoming 1
These are the teams you lost to
Air Force 1
BYU 2
Fresno st 1
Idaho 1 WTF?
Indiana 1
LSU 1
Miami 1
Michigan 1
Nebraska 1
Nevada 1
Notre Dame 4
Ohio st 2
Oklahoma 2
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
dude - you are a complete idiot.
… of course I didn’t include every team – I was sampling the perennially ranked teams and the differences there. You including the Pac 10 teams (which I noted) is meaningless, because we PLAYED THEM ALL EVERY SEASON
as far as “backfiring” – you really haven’t countered the fact that we’ve taken on tougher OOC schedules. For you, a “tough add” is Arizona St. For us, that’s a day in the office.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
well - darn it - sorry.
… I didn’t want to flame you with the idiot comment.
That was uncalled for.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
re: Bugs Dodger
I’m a Ute fan, and I love your post. Well done!
I dont know...
With Doug Nussmeyer, Joel Thomas and Nick Holt that is a lot of Idaho Vandals coaching the Huskies.
The Spread
Here is one possiblity of why the Vega spread grew past 7 this morning: All week long those very conservative, church-going men in Utah have been trying to get their black-sheep brother-in-laws to make thier bets for them. As the brother-in-law really hates the assholio who married his sister, he has waiting until this tick up in the spread to place a bet for Brother Assholio, while putting his own money, at the same time, on our Dawgs.
It only takes a few dozen brother-in-law bets to widen the spread for a while
by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 30, 2011 9:23 AM PDT reply actions
Good point about scheduling
no matter how this game goes tomarrow, the rested Utes will be a better team than they will be a month from now. Regretfully, we will start to soften them up for future opponents. This is still easier than going to Neb, so hopefully we keep our mistakes to a minimum and Polk has a great day.
Don't like this game
This is a tough one to evaluate. Getting Utah early in the season means the grind will not affect them. The Huskies have some key injuries (Jamora, Timu, Dennison dinged up). However, the turnover numbers for Utah are misleading at this point. 8 were against BYU, so that means 4 in the 3 other games (not very intimiating). Our D did play better in the 2nd half against Cal. Wynn does not look too impressive, and Utah’s running game is nowhere near Nebraska’s. This is one game I wouldn’t pick either way, and have had it as a toss up before the season started. Lets hope the Dawgs play well early and take out the crowd. I see a shootout!
Benno
I like this game!
Every game helps define the team. I always want to know more. When will Alameda get it back? Will Keith continue, not surprising, but wowing? Cort will be there Benno! Can Garrett cover for the injuries? I think the Bishop will surprise somebody in this one when Polk needs a breather, not sure Callier’s fully healed. I know it’s early in the season but I remember when things finally came together defensively last year and what a revelation it was. It might not happen until after the bye but I’m hoping. Let’s get to that point earlier every year please!
by hairofthedawg on Sep 30, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Utah has only played in 3 games
But nice try
Summary of Turnovers
Montana State: 2
USC: 3
BYU: 7
Total: 12
Take out the BYU game and we’re still averaging almost 3 a game.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, in fairness
you’re as close to 2 as you are to 3…but we’ll let you round up. 2.5 a game is alright, but a snatched up halftime heave and a pick six aren’t exactly the same thing, so it’s not a super telling stat either way.
What's the Best Untah blog for a (polite) Husky to visit?
Appears you realize Bugs is in character.
I have no excuse for some Oregon fans; they used to behave like Pac-8 fans . . .
OSU and WSU deserve a break; they have been beat down pretty bad over time, and it has sometimes been less than nice.
FYI, road trip to Stanford, and to some extent LA is kinda weird.
They’re just not that excited by football . . .
Best Regards,
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
re: HuskyInExile
The best Utah message board site is Utefans.net. … or maybe blockU.com
Block U is very friendly
I may get carried away on some of these other blogs, but I am always friendly on the Utah one. The moderator JazzyUte is pretty good at keeping the peace.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a heads up.
The Seattle Times comments section is utter poison. Avoid like the plague. It’s like having your brain gently massaged by a rusty ice cream scoop.
by Drew_D on Oct 1, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have a good feeling about this one.
If the dawgs were healthy I’d feel more confident, but Jamora being out in particular worries me against the run. I envision a pretty long day if we can’t get the utes off the field, and even though I wouldn’t bet against Price/Polk putting up another quality performance the Utes might be able to keep them off the field. Unless Holt and Sark pick Chow’s pocket this is going to be a tough one to win.
It's such a tough one to pick...
So I’m gonna crank up the Kool-aid and say Nebraska’s little dirty diaper day will produce the fruit of a much needed “tweaking” of the D. The “hostile crowd” won’t be the distraction it was in Lincoln…and Shirley and Kearse (Jamaal that is) will amazingly emerge in a big way for the next “pleasant surprises” list…and offensive turnovers are limited to 2 or less…while the Dawgs grab hold of 4 Ute boo boo’s! and the once “electric” homer mob of Ute fans stare in deflated disbelief as our own version of quality “Yutes” (“youths”) finally put a game away in the second half by 2 scores! (or…something like that!)
Ute fan here
I expect a good game and even I think the Vegas line might be a little high.
To be honest, as Ute fans we don’t know who our team is yet. We were obviously conservative vs Montana St.. We were one play away from winning @USC. We destroyed our top rival on the road in the holy war, but had the help of some extra TO’s.
We know our Defense is good, really good, and very fast. Offense? Wynn hasn’t been playing like a star, but he is looking better and more confident each game. White could be a very good running back, but can he handle a pac-12 schedule?
Overall this is going to be a very telling game for Ute fans, we win, then we have a legit chance at the Pac-12 South title, we lose, probably not.
I think for the huskies to win they need to make an early jump on us, and hold us to FG’s in the redzone (we are not so good at kicking….)
Good luck and may the best team win!
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Welcome to our place!
Sure we can’t interest you in a little…. “Kool-aid”??? This should be a great game!
Welcome aboard!
You should feel right at home here . . .
We’ve spent many years not quite knowing which Huskies will show up in any given year, or game . . . even though overall we’ve had a very respectable long term record.
Best Regards,
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
BIG Test
To see this football game. Yeah, I’m nervous. The schedule could not have worked out any better for the Utes for this game. I do believe this could be a further coming out game for the Dawgs if they get the W. We have not received much attention nationally up to date besides the NU game, but if the Dawgs can pull this out we would be sitting pretty against Colorado and could go into the Stanford game at 5-1. This is some severe kool-aid, but win this game and I think we’re destined to be ranked. If PSquared can continue doing their thing and the D keeps their mental mistakes to a minimum (looking at you, Q), this should be a winnable ball game.
I don’t know, I just want to watch this team succeed and get the recognition that they will soon deserve. BOW DOWN.
Steps baaaaack! OOOOH at the buzzer! Young! Zeke!
I see this game
Going down a lot like the Cal and Hawaii games. Jump out to an early lead and then protect the football. Make the Utes put together long sustained drives. The difference this time is that we will need play really strong against the run. The fact that Wynn’s throwing strength is not 100% back means we can cheat up a bit, as I have yet to see him hit a receiver more than 25 yards down field (the long passes in the BYU game were 20-25 yards passes that he had to heave, then receivers ran after the catch).
Yes! Rather simple...
Grow a pair of “Dawgs” up front and stop the run…(or at least make it real slow go…) make them try a few short- midrange throws and get some descent or better pressure on Wynn…shut down time! Sounds too easy…but then again, I’m Koolaidman! Dawgs!
Stay Agressive on Offence
That’s the key in my opinion. No more of this jumping out to a big lead and then coasting. I know that Sark doesn’t want to risk turnovers by being overly agressive when we have a big lead, but what kind of message is that sending to the team. Just my two cents worth.
Very true
I sincerely hope we don’t come out flat in the 3rd quarter, and I don’t want us to abandon the pass or anything. I’d like to keep pouring it on. But more important than the points is going to be sustaining drives and chewing up clock to give our D a rest. This could be all the more important at altitude and with a high of 85.
Better than...
“two cents worth”…(or even 3!) You’re on to something there! Clearly it’s time to press the “pedal to the metal!” …“sink or swim”! …“do or die”!…“sh-t or get off the pot!”…“send a message!”…“grow a pair!”…Sorry, I’m “Kool-aid” induced! But, I agree with U! Coach Sark said ; “it’s time to let go…and let loose”….I agree with him too! Love, “Koolaidman”
Why is SDSU included in the list of MWC gimmes?
San Diego State beat the Cougars by 18 points just 2 weeks ago. Maybe the comment wouldn’t have been out of place 3 years ago, but then again 3 years ago, UW was a different team too.
What?
John Berkowitz said:
No more in conference breathers with the likes of Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, and SDSU.Are you saying that Wazzu is a conference breather? I guess John’s comment is simply wrong.
Cupcake schedule
How did you guys luck out on the scheduling? No Oregon – No Stanford – ASU at home -Washington after a bye week and first PAC 12 home game. USC on probation. AZ and UCLA both in the tank. If you do not win the south this year you will never win it.
by lorenzothedog on Sep 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys need to make up your mind.
One minute you’re arguing that a Pac-12 schedule is really difficult and is going to “grind” the Utes down. The next minute you’re arguing that Utah has a “cupcake schedule.” You’re very scattershot in your criticism of the Utes.
Anyway, I mostly agree with you, lorenzo. Utah got a favorable schedule this year.
I also agree with the posters that said the Pac-12 is harder than the MWC. However, the MWC isn’t as easy as you all make it out to be. Over the last 10 seasons (2001–2010), the Pac-10 had a 39–26 record against the MWC (winning percentage of exactly 60%.) So the Pac-12 is better, but it’s not like the FCS (like Bugs Dodger said in his smack) or the MWC would never have won 40% of its games.
In 2008 when Utah won the Sugar bowl the MWC went 6-1 against the PAC
I argue that 2008 was the pinnacle of MWC football and that Sugar Bowl winning team was legit.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
No. You said it.
This technology works both ways. Just as you can read what we write here, we can read what you Utes write on Block U.
A couple of days ago, Block U posters sniped about the Pac-12 cellar dwellers — including Washington — and how we are no better than CSU, Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, and (excepting last year’s squad) SDSU. I wonder why you consider games against those teams gimmes on Block U but not here. In fact, I wonder why you bother coming here at all, when we, along with Washington State (who now you are defending), Arizona, Colorado, and Oregon State are nothing more than the new breathers you have to suffer.
Why not pal about with your equals, the Ducks?
It takes some nerve for you to call us out for comments that we made about the lower tier of the Mountain West when there are plenty of comments on your board that not only say the same thing, but equate one third of the Pac-12 — including the University of Washington Huskies — with the Mountain West breathers whose reputations only now, here, you deem worthy of protecting.
I would thank you to spare us the hypocrisy.
One poster said that at Block U,
and it wasn’t me. Several other posters pointed out the absurdity of his statement before I saw it. There was no need for me to add to it. That’s not hypocrisy.
Equating the bottom of Mountain West with the bottom of the Pac (and, until you beat us tomorrow, let’s not forget where Utah sits) isn’t hypocrisy — it’s stupidity.
I’m talking about the double-standard by you mock the lower tier of the Mountain West when you’re among yourselves but defend your schedule when you’re talking to people from AQ conference schools.
Hmm. I'm not getting your hostility towards my comment.
I said SDSU was not among the MWC bottom dwellers. I took no umbridge at the inclusion of Wyoming, New Mexico, and UNLV.
Implicitly, my comment suggests that Wyoming, New Mexico, and UNLV were conference breathers. Those are teams that I think would lose to any Pac-12 team this year. I will say that here, and I would say that on any Utah blog/message board.
Here’s my point: the MWC is a worse conference than the Pac-12, but not as bad as some make it out to be. By stretching the number of bottom-dweller to include SDSU, John Berkowitz was exaggerating the weakness of the MWC.
I’m not sure why pointing out that SDSU is not a gimme game rubs you the wrong way.
I have had some crummy exchanges with Ute fans this week that have seemed disproportionately higher than the terse encounters that I generally have with opposing fans before a game, although I want to make it clear that the Utes who have visited us here have had wonderful manners and have behaved in a fashion the polar opposite of those whom I have encountered elsewhere. I may mock the Mountain West in general, but I have always had a great deal of respect for both Utah and TCU, and I stand by my earlier words of welcome. While I can explain my hostility by saying that the aforementioned encounters made me grumpy, I’m a grown man, and I know that the people who offended me are not representative of your fanbase. Even if they were, you, yourself, did nothing to deserve my picking a fight with you here. You came in the spirit of friendship and good sportsmanship, and I hope that you will consider accepting my apology. Please don’t hold my bad manners against my fellow Huskies or the Dawg Pound.
I thought our encounter was rather pleasant
A little back and forth banter while I visited but I tried not to cross the line.
Good luck the rest of the season, but huck the fuskies tonight!!
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
They were. As I said,
the Utes who have visited us here have had wonderful manners and have behaved in a fashion the polar opposite of those whom I have encountered elsewhere.
It’s number of Utes whom I have run into elsewhere.
Every fan base has some bad apples. We do too. Hopefully not too many.
I will try to make up for others today at the tailgate. If I see a UW fan I will make sure to go out of my way to offer a warm welcome to SLC.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
We have bad apples, too. Every fan base does. And I doubt that any kindness on your part would be otherwise different from your standard behavior.
Good luck today!
insert apple cup joke here.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
I have a theory that we have "hyper-sensitivity syndrome"
I have it myself sometimes too. I have to hold back many times. My theory is that some of it comes from being attacked in a market where the parent company of your rival team owns much of the media in your market.
For example, lets look at the local newspaper yesterday.
Deserent News link
I’m aware that the Pac-12 doesn’t care about community standards or Sundays or General Conference weekend or Yom Kippur and Ramadan, for that matter.
Stuff like this drives me bat $#!+ crazy. Then I go off and blow steam somewhere for a while.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
For reference
This weekend is LDS General Conference and the UW game will be at the same time as the priesthood session they have. That is why BYU vs. Utah St. was played on Friday.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
Anybody know about the details of the halftime show?
I hear it is going to be a live orgy sex show.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that St Larry soon would be there. -Maji Man
Please, let it rest
we’re gonna know over the course of the next several weeks just how ready Utah was for this step, and I appreciate that you consider it a ‘promotion.’
I’m going to be VERY careful not to mock you guys, much, yet, until I know whether you will/have beat the crap out of us tomorrow.
This game could go weird; Sark has adopted the ‘always play for the win’ philosophy, so if we get down late in the 2nd half, like at Nebraska, he throws caution to the wind.
I think most of the reasonable people here realize this game really could go either way, depending on how a LOT of details play out. Including your crowd.
Again, I’m hoping for a good quality clean game, and please G*d no more blown calls by Pac-12 officials . . .
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Bugs, I totally respect your ability with prose
But let this argument die. It was stupid on Block U and it’s stupid here. Dumb people say dumb things; that’s the long and the short of it. I’m also fairly sure the original poster meant Wazzu and not UW.
HEY! I'll throw a flag on that!
“Why not pal about with your equals, the Ducks?”
It’s waay too early to start comparing our new cousins to our longtime cousins the nouveau riche Ducks.
I enjoy your posts, and understand a lot of it is various forms of humor; just don’t want the new kids to think we actually treat our guests like the Ducks treat theirs.
Best Regards,
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
JB was referring to past years!
Seems reading comprehension is not needed at U of Utah. ;-)
by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 30, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone beats the Cougars
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by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Washington 35
John is predicting the Dawgs will score 35 – If we score 35 or more and Utah beats us Holt has to go IMHO.
Still Holt's fault
If the UW has 11 turnovers it has be Holt’s fault. The O should never have been on the field to turn it over. The D was getting off the field to fast for the O to regroup – Holt’s fault.
by lorenzothedog on Sep 30, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Too soon to talk about dumping Holt
and it shouldn’t be done during the season; that just reflects badly on the program and shows potential replacements (that are NOT available mid-season!) that we’re not serious.
Yeah, Holt deserves a very raw mid-year performance review, but in private. From the guy he is most badly scr*w*ng by his performance so far, the head coach.
You wanna b*tch about a coordinator or position coach?
- fine, no sweat, but address all complaints to the head coach.
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to Utah Washington!
We look forward to humbly and charitably kicking your ass tomorrow. It is nothing personal. After all we are just a mid major in a big league. So enjoy the mountains, Mormons, and fall weather. Lets make this Series 6-0 Washington over Utah 6-1 with a bit of humble pie whoop ass.
We know that the Husky’s bark is far worse than his bite. Bless your little doggy hearts.
The goal of every Ute fan should be to caffeinate Cosmo's punch and watch him self combust.
There ya go!
I look forward to your humility and charity. Any Ute that knows his place is a good Ute in my book.
by Sundodger on Sep 30, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually...
dawgs don’t need “charity”. We simply need refs that don’t have their collective thumbs on the scale.
And I certainly appreciate the vigor of your hyperbole. It's excess is not to be found in all of college football.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
And Welcome aboard to the Puget Sound Dawg Pound!
We greatly enjoy a little good natured sparring.
All kidding aside I greatly hope we have a clean hard fought game w/ good officiating.
IIRC, Husky Stadium actually has the loudest recorded crown noise, though Oregen’s Autzen Stadium seems like h*ll to us. Have heard your little bowl can get loud; this is a chanced to prove it on a Pac-12 stage!
On the other hand, if it’s the wrong time of the month, or you just realized your meds are not right, then please go visit the Ducks:
>>> you would fit right in
Best Regards,
PS: you’re not a mid-major any more, time to step up . . .
PSS: you’ve gotta make a road trip to Husky stadium, and arrive by boat. Awesome
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
how's that humble pie tasting?
We know that the Husky’s bark is far worse than his bite.
Must be a hell of a bark, because that bite yesterday had to hurt…
Having issues with SBN and multiple web browsers, need to get my picks on record:
USC by 7 – A win, but not an impressive one.
Col. by 1 – Very tough pick, everything says WSU, but my gut says Colorado.
ASU by 10 – I’m betting that Riley gets the team playing better, it’s about the time OSU normally remembers how to play football.
Stanford by 100 – Say bye bye to Slick Rick.
Utah by 1 – Sure hope I’m wrong
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
Finally, something works. . . .
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
It would be so awesome if Stanford put up 3 figures on UCLA
I think even Carrol would crack a smile.
I don't get all the hype about Washington
Let’s look at your performance so far:
You barely beat a 0-4 Eastern Washington team by 3 at home
You beat a 2-2 Hawaii team by 8 points at home, wow did you know UNLV beat them 40-20 in their house.
You got beat down by an always overated Nebraska 58-38 (the same margin that a 2-2 Fresno lost by).
You beat a good but not great Cal team at home
I am not going to bring up Utah’s schedule because I agree that they haven’t proven anything either. But let’s not start pretending Washington is elite or that they haven’t been a mediocre at best team that has dragged the PAC down for the past 10 years.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions
Obviously, Washington is unworthy.
Would really suck to lose to `em, wouldn’t it?
by Hawnk on Sep 30, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Get a grip, and lighten up
No offense, but nearly all this chatter is somewhere between high hopes (like Peter Pan make a wish), hyperbole, or outright self mocking.
> and yes, with some genuine hope and optimism mixed in . . .
We haven’t been really full of ourselves since we lost Coach James, and I hope my fellow Huskies have been properly chastized by Karma since (I know I was!).
We’ve had a very recent opportunity to be fed humble pie. Repeatedly!
Best Regards,
PS: if you really feel the need to go toe to toe w/ a new Pac-12 cousin, blog a Duck. But be warned, they are VERY full of themselves and their new found success (and yes, real success).
If they could learn to be gracious in victory I’d be proud for them.
by HuskyInExile on Sep 30, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I admit I took the bait
I am used to talking to a bunch of Zoobies who live in bubble of delusion.
Also it’s hard when everyone still thinks of your team as the lucky non AQ who got an invite. My posts reflect an attempt to disprove that stigma.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Utah has a great program...
I also think that you will have a period of adjustment getting used to the altitude at this level.
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by John Berkowitz on Sep 30, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sark has this team on the rise
I think Price will throw for 300+ yards against us, and UW will lead us in stats for various categories but we will hold you to two touchdowns and the rest will be field goals, with 2 turnovers (1 pick 1 fumble), while Wynn also throws a pick.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
People toss that around as a generic insult
but if you were to go back and look at our discussions when we first saw “@ Utah” on our schedule a lot of us circled it as a really important test for both programs to validate themselves. Really looking forward this one, may the best team win.
Same here
Outside of ASU this is the biggest game on our home schedule.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Enjoy it, win or lose
I’m not trying to make any comment on the quality of your program, but, yeah each game means a lot! Most of the posters here have been through the spoiled era and the sucky era. It happens, but it’s a great conference and, like any sport, you have to play the game.
We’ll do it and both of us will likely be clenching our teeth near the end. Actually, I’ll probably be working and won’t see the result until after the fact but the sentiment remains the same. Injury free and Go Huskies!
by hairofthedawg on Sep 30, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Utah was the lucky non AQ who got an invite.
If Texas didn’t have their heads up their asses it would have been a Pac-16 without Utah.
Correction
I believe the Nebraska score was 51-38 – thank you. Yes look at our performance although we played the about teams close we also played them with no defense. Try playing someone with no defense and see how your performance would look. If only we had a defense we could be a “contender”.
by lorenzothedog on Sep 30, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Finally! Someone who talks sense.
always overated Nebraska
I know, right? Win a national championship and get back to us, Nebraska!
BYU Sucks - Utes R So-So
BYU is having touble against a nun-2-good Utah St. team.
So the Utes took advantage of a weak BYU team this year, and lost to a USC team who we have been beating for the past 2 years,,,, when USC was much tougher than they are this year. Don’t see why Vegas and the Utes are so sure they are not going to get their butts kicked tomorrow.
Go Dawgs!! It seems more n more like the UW is gonna’ earn a nice win in SLC.
by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 30, 2011 8:18 PM PDT reply actions
BYU is the same team
That beat you last year, when you had your senior first round draft QB.
2010 UW 32 – 31 USC
2009 UW 16-13 USC
Both games won on a literally last second Field Goals.
2011 Utah-USC game:
Utah 14 USC 17,
1st & 10 on the 24 with 11 seconds left, no timeouts.
If Utah would have went for the TD instead of a blocked FG we’d be 3-0, & you and I would not be having this conversation.
But nontheless, is there really that much difference between the three games?
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM PDT reply actions
oops
meant to post this as a reply to The Dude 4 Real
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Regardless of whether or not BYU is the same team...
UW is a different team this year than last year. Locker was incredible, but I think few would dispute that Keith Price is simply performing at a higher level this year than he was last year. Not to mention that Chris Polk is a year older and UW has more experience on offense along with a very strong recruiting class.
I’m pretty confident in saying that if last year’s opener were repeated today, it would be much different.
It might be
but the OP was bringing up a win against last years USC, until you beat them this year you have to take that with a grain of salt as you lost to the Zoobs that year too.
by Utes_real2008champs on Sep 30, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Why R You Here?
4 Utes_real……….. :
My comments are to and for my fellow Huskies. I honesty could not care less about anything more that you might have to say, you have lost me with all your relentless arguing. Are you actully my ex-wife? Can not figure why you are spending too much time here, other than to be an antagonist. Get a life!
by The Dude 4 Real on Oct 1, 2011 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Why is here?
Because this is an open forum for all football fans and on game week we encourage fans from the opposing school to congregate here to talk about football.
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by John Berkowitz on Oct 1, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
If we win tomorrow — and I'm not saying we will — ...
… that means that the soonest the Utes would win a conference game would be October 29 against the Beavers, yeah?
Is there any chance that Oregon State could get it together between then and now?
Hope So!
Had no idea I would begin to hate Utah so much. Yet the tacky behavior by a Ute poster here, has done the trick. Not only will I be glowing if and when our Dawgs are kicking some crapola out of Utah today, but I hope the Beavers can knock ’em off too, along with every other PAC-12 team they play. A humility lesson is needed!
by The Dude 4 Real on Oct 1, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
OSU
Not sure about this edition but they have a history of getting better as the season progresses. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them win a few in November.
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by John Berkowitz on Oct 1, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks John
We play OSU in November – OSU also plays OR – Stanford and CAL in November – hope you are not talking about us as one of their wins – and put some kind of jinx on us. I thought we might have a real chance of beating them in Corvallis this year.
by lorenzothedog on Oct 1, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
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