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Husky Defense: By The Numbers

When Steve Sarkisian took over the Huskies program in 2009, he made it clear that he was going to run the offense, and was bringing Nick Holt with him from USC to run the defense. Nick took over what was an epically bad defense, and despite the howls from the Internet about his defense not progressing, still has the support of Sarkisian, who has shown complete trust in Holt and that he will get them where they need to go.

 

The question is, how has he done so far?

 

Similar to the offensive article, we will look at how the defense did after 4 games in the season, and how those numbers changed by the end of the season.

Star-divide

 

Washington ended 2008 with only one substantial defensive stat ranking above 100 in the nation, the pass defense was only giving up 211 yards a game through the air, which was good enough for 62nd in the nation. As ugly as the number is, so were the rest of them. Giving up 451 yards a game with 38 points by the end of the season.

 

Simply put, the defense looked like it reached absolute rock bottom along with the rest of the program in 2008, and could only get better. Insert Sarkisian and the animated Holt, who appears to be ready at all times to run out on the field and tackle someone.

 

After the first four games in 2009 the Washington defense was giving up 379 yards a game for 25 points a game. While not numbers that jump out at you, the improvement over 2008 was monumental.

To start 2009 the Huskies were giving up 183 yards through the ground to 195 ypg through the air. By the end of the season the Huskies were stouter against the run at 148 ypg, but were giving up big numbers through the air with 240 ypg. The defense made a large leap from the start of the season to the end going from an average of 4.25 tackles for loss a game, to 6.67 which ranked 27th in the nation, and also improved their sack total from one per game to 2.25.

 

With the Huskies making improvements in both the offense and the defense for 2009, there was a bit of excitement going into the 2010 season, even with the loss of their sack leader on defense in Daniel Te-Nesheim.

 

Washington started the 2010 season going 2-2, but with a dramatic relapse in defensive numbers. Those kind of things happen when you give up 56 points in a single game. Their total D was back up over 400 at 425 yards per game. Huskies opponents were putting up a balanced 212 yards through the air to 213 on the ground. Jumping up from 2009's 26 points per game total, the Huskies were giving up 33 a game in 2010.

By the end of the Huskies 2010 march back to respectability in the form of a bowl game, Holts defense was giving up 384 yards per game, Washington's opponents were still hitting them with a balanced attack, but down to 194 ypg through the air, and 190 ypg on the ground. The points per game came down to a more respectable 29.

 

By the time bowl season came around Washington found themselves with a strong looking d-line, and an absolute BEAST on defense in Mason Foster running around at linebacker. The defense ended the season averaging 2.15 sacks a game and 6.46 tackles for a loss, with Foster the leader in sacks.

Despite the loss of Foster, Washington came in 2011 looking to take another step on defense. Sadly for Husky fans, it looks like the step is backwards when it comes to the numbers. The Huskies found themselves under an aerial assault from Eastern Washington and Hawaii, so it is no surprise that the passing D is currently sitting at last in the nation at 327 yards per game.

 

While the PAC-12 does like the throw the ball all over the field, it is unlikely the Huskies will continue to get pummeled through the air the same fashion. On the ground the Huskies find themselves only giving up 125 yards a game, but that is just as much of a product of being attacked through the air more often than on the ground, as Nebraska was able to run with success against the Huskies front 7.

Even though the numbers are not pretty at this point, 453 ypg in total defense, the Huskies are sitting at 3-1 since they have been able to put up more than the 33 points their defense is giving up a game. The Huskies suffered a huge loss in losing Mason Foster, and the line backing depth has shown some weakness.

 

The Huskies are still young on defense (I know, we have been been young for what seems like a decade especially in the secondary), and you can see it in the play calling, most noticeably when it comes to the secondary. Holt has focused his team on not giving up the big play, and making teams work there way down the field.

 

While the defense does not seem to be making quite the leap the offense appears to be making this year, there still is progress. Watching the games we can start to see where Holt envisions this defense going, but right now it a lot of people in the wrong spot and making frustrating mistakes. Holt wants to attack, but does not trust his guys on the back end enough to leave them exposed too often.

 

The stats for the first games are ugly, especially through the air, but we will see those drop to more respectable numbers when the Huskies aren't getting 50 + passes thrown at them. Not to say the secondary is not a work in progress, but there are some young pieces there with guys like Desmond Trufant and Sean Parker.

 

The Huskies are young all over the place on defense, which is frustrating as a fan to watch as they learn on the go. The good news is that they are improving, and the talent they are bringing in is there. Luckily the Huskies offense which has been the bright-spot so far this year, is very young as well, so we should should still have an impressive offense when this defense matures.

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The Big Guy

When Ta’amu finlay shows up, and dominates in the middle as we know that he can, this will help the D out tremendously. Having injured secondary players healed up and back at play, should help a whole lot too. We need to see some this happening this Saturday, or it could be a very long day against Utah.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 7:05 AM PDT reply actions  

First!

An advantage of being on the worst east coast!

Thanks for doing all the hard work, a lot of good info. My question, which I’m sure will have many answers from many people: Where are the signs of improvement? You mention that the defense is improving, but I tend to question that theory.

I definitely agree that the defense improves from first game to last game, every season, no question. But, have we improved over the course of all three seasons (yes, this season is still far from finished). I’d propose to the Husky faithful, that we have not improved. If you compare where we are at the first three games of 2009,2010, and 2011, I don’t see much difference at all, maybe even slight regression. It’s too early, but I’ll bet if we could compare the last three games of each season, we would be in a very similar spot.

My theory: Our defense definitely shows improvement over the course of the season, but has not shown improvement since the 2009 season.

To me, the big question is why??? My theory on that: coaching! As long as Holt keeps saying he doesn’t have the talent, he doesn’t have the “bullets”, his players will not improve to the level they are capable of. If your boss kept telling the media that you aren’t good enough to do your job, you aren’t a good enough writer, you aren’t a good enough pilot, you aren’t a good enough ______, do you think you’d learn a lot about your job from this individual?

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 7:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Well I'm On The West Coast

And I beat you! It helps to not be too windy, when trying to be “first”. :-)

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's Nick Holt's fault that Lear wasn't first!

It seems that ruining our defense is not enough for Nick Holt: he has taken up misdirecting sbnation comments through the intertubes. Who will stop this madness?

Fire Nick Holt!

by Bugs Dodger on Sep 28, 2011 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its All Nick Holt's Fault

When I overcooked my steak last night, as I was pondering how many first downs, yards and points Utah might get agaist us, I said, “F Holt! He made me do this!”.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stubbed my big toe...

I looked down upon my big toe and it looked exactly like Nick Holt’s head…I said Nick Holt what you doing in my big toe you fool! Get outta my big toe and start coaching some defense!

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by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just Glad, at 50...

….,. that I have not gotten fat, and can still easily see what looks/is, a lot like Nick Holt.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have my SINCEREST apologies!!!!!!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

JB - is that ... sophmoric humor????

who knew?

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 28, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s Holt’s fault it took me so long to post this! Had Holt not somehow caused me to be sick this would have been posted last week.

by ToddWilliams206 on Sep 28, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT????????

When I posted it, it was first, and then yours showed up two seconds later. DAMN NICK HOLT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Funny Thing

But Holts boss is behind him 100%, and even gave him a raise. WTF? Some kind of pre-emptive optimism going on there?

If this D does not quit making so many mistakes – right away – then I will be calling for Nick Holt’s head. Holt has done nothing to impress us.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now if we could just get Holt to show his players the same support . . . .

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You should turn your "Nick Holt negative comments" filter off for a minute.

He says lots of things that are very complimentary of the players.

And Sarkisian says lots of things that aren’t. He basically called out the entire team in the media after the Nebraska game. Several by name. Then called out Porter and Kohler after the Cal game.

You see and hear what you want to.

by Sundodger on Sep 28, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with calling out players

But a coach public saying he doesn’t “have the bullets” is undercutting the players psyche.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Under The Bus

That is indeed when Nick Holt first lost my respect – when he threw his players under the bus. Since then, Nick has had two more years, and is still doing no better. Can not help but be critical of Nick at this time.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was being realistic...

They were doing the best that they could do with the players they had.

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by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

some players respond to that.

I hope he called out the right guys

by CODawg on Sep 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anger is the Enemy of Instruction

OK, it’s a Phil Jackson quote from an Audi commercial, but when I heard it the first thing I thought of was coach Holt. Anger can also be a cover for a lack of knowledge and incompetence. I don’t know the man, so can only judge him based on published information and how his defense performs, but the public scapegoating of players really bothers me. I’ve been skeptical of him since hired, and hoped that I was wrong – I still do. Looking from afar, however, based on his behavior and the lack of success in the performance of his craft over this 3-year period, I don’t like what I see.

by NY85Dawg on Sep 28, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Anger

I have no problem with anger, fire and brimstone, passion . . . .

As a former Flight Instructor, the most important thing I know about instructing is you MUST know your student. Everybody learns differently, everybody is motivated differently. Some guys need positive reinforcement (a pat on the back, a “that a boy”), some guys need a drill sergeant screaming at them. The key is to know how to push your “students” buttons to get them to perform at their best.

Long story, but I’m sitting in a hotel room with free time (my airplane is “broken”, aka in the shop), so I’ve got the time: I ran track and cross country in high school, my track coach was a retired Navy Master Chief. He could yell and scream with the best of them, but more importantly he knew how to “push my buttons”. While running “The Mile”, I had a 20 yard lead and was loafing because I knew my competition couldn’t keep up. My coach yells at the kid behind me (on my team and a real annoying kid) to pass me! My coach knew I was his best runner and this kid had never beat me. I was pissed, took off like a bat out of hell and decided to embarrass the kid. After the race I didn’t even look at my time, went straight to my coach and started to give him a piece of my mind. He calmly looked at his clipboard and comment that my first two laps were slow, but my last two were right on pace. I had been played, but it worked!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for a good ass-kicking or in-your-face chewing-out, where and when appropriate, and most importantly to your point, based on what motivates the individual. The challenge for me is the constant rage he exhibits. It comes across more as a cover than passion. One man’s opinion, based on some experience, but when considered in light of the lack of progress/improvement on D, that’s where I end up.

To be fair, and to Sundodger’s point above, we do tend to see what we want. It’s typical confirmation bias. The development of the D, imo, is just not there though, per the measurables cited above. I agree that the program is headed in the right direction. Sark’s O is clearly better, year-over-year, and his game management seems improved, as do the Special Teams. But without a better defense, we are going to lose some games that we should win this year. I hope, and want to be proved wrong, but if not I think this should be Coach Holt’s final year at UW.

by NY85Dawg on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Fully agree with NY85Dawg. Being objective about our -oach – he is too much of a D-Bag. That’s the short version.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough for a post titled by the numbers, my feeling that we are SLOWLY VERY SLOWLY improving is based on a gut feeling. I don’t get the same amount of dread when the our defense faces a third down. I completely agree about improving from week 1 until bowl season. It will be interesting to see how the defensive #’s even out over the pac-12 schedule.

by ToddWilliams206 on Sep 28, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reality Check

Reality check guys. Holt led our best defensive performance in a decade against Nebraska in the Holiday, led the defense to a huge win against USC, and the defense did win us last week’s game against Cal. Things are not perfect and much improvement is needed, but there is some truth to the reality that there is not a lot of talent or depth from the seniors or Juniors and you cannot blame Holt for those classes.

Like it or not, Holt is the best we have had in a decade at DC. Let’s hope we continue to get some more improvement.

by Fighting Husky on Sep 28, 2011 7:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great Post

It is year three and this program including the defense is headed in the right direction. It is just not as fast or consistent as we would like. I am very confident that Holt will get the job done.

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by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hope You Are Right

But do not share your confidence. If every coaching staff has ot have a least one douche-bag, then Nick Holt is ours.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious, John...

What are you seeing that makes you very confident? It’s one thing to say that it’s too early to judge him, it’s quite another to say you are very confident.

by Steen on Sep 28, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maturity

I think the only things that this defense is missing is talent and maturity. I think the best talent on defense is young and it will take time to mature over the course of this season.

You are going to see improvement and you are going to see setbacks along the way…but this is a team that was supposed to struggle to get to .500 this year based on returning talent…correct?

The reality is that the team is 3-1 and we saw improvement at least in the red zone last week which definitely helped fuel a victory in a close game.

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by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you just looked at the roster in 2009,

you could see that this was the year the D was going to have it the toughest without absolutely lights-out recruting.

by Sundodger on Sep 28, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about our secondary??

We have (or had) 3 guys who are juniors or seniors and yet they seem to be one of our biggest weaknesses. Not that a little pressure on the QB wouldn’t help.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They coach all the players.

I understand your point, but a good coach will have a positive effect on all of the players, not just the ones they recruited.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he has

But he hasnt given a lot of talent to work with. The guys he has brought in are all playing great parts.

by CODawg on Sep 28, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is a big thing to remember

As much as we dog the secondary, there hasn’t been a lot of pressure up front. In the early going we’re almost 2 tackles for loss and a sack off our season average last season, and while those granular stats don’t tell the whole pictures anyone who’s watched the games can tell you there’s been to much time on 3rd downs. If Zach Maynard had plenty of time to make throws, and not surprisingly carved us up in the air.

The thing I would hold against Holt is the type of coverage he likes to play in the backfield. You see a lot of cover-2 and zone, which works great if you have USC’s mid-2000s level of physical talent at the CB and safety position; guys who can make up a lot of ground and bad positioning on the basis of pure athleticism and turn it in to picks. However, that sort of coverage looks like a sieve with more human components, and you end up getting what you’re seeing on the field right now. That’s on Holt, if you don’t have the “bullets” for your scheme, go buy a different gun.

by Drew_D on Sep 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

That’s on Holt, if you don’t have the "bullets" for your scheme, go buy a different gun.

Absolutely love it!!! A good coordinator/coach adjusts his scheme according to the players he has.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 29, 2011 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you can see

what you are talking about with Trufant. He is improving week to week. I also think guys like Gilliland and Timu are starting to show signs. I honestly dont get all the dogging of Nick Holt. We were 0-12 just 3 years ago and had the worst defense in the country.

by CODawg on Sep 28, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst - to Almost Worst

Virtually no difference. And the fact the the offense is not turning over and/or punting as oftern as it used to, is about the only thing that is making the current D look ever so slightly better…. than worst of all. Now we are better than at D than what, like 20 other teams? Ooooh!

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back handed compliment much?

It’s irrelevant if Holt is the best guy in the last 10 years. Hypothetically, all those other guys could grade out as F, and as long as Holt is a D- or better, He would be an improvement.

Reality Check: Nebraska didn’t want to be there, and Martinez was hurt.

What happened when we played this year?

by Steen on Sep 28, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Nebraska's defense wanted to be there.

They held the Dawgs to fewer points than in the first meeting.

Yeah, Martinez was hurt. And the Dawgs had five total healthy d-linemen, two of whom were true freshmen.

by Sundodger on Sep 28, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Martinez being hurt was the biggest difference to me.

by ToddWilliams206 on Sep 28, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh god, not the "they didn't want to be there" shit again.

… I’ve got one for you: UW didn’t want to be in Lincoln in the third quarter of that game. They told me.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 28, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great post, and I think we are just starting to see the turn around for the D. It is just more glaring since the offense has jumped right out of the gate.

by ToddWilliams206 on Sep 28, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd almost argue the opposite

I think a lot of Husky fans are cutting the defense too much slack, mainly because the offense has gotten us to 3-1.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 29, 2011 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

From The Reality Dude

As the guy who’s friends keep calling him a “realist” (and who Jeff Bridges happens to look a lot like, and now with my hair growing out, and with a beard to go along with that, too many people cal me The Dude) this is my take on Nick Holt: He is an overpaid loser…….. at least thus far.

Holt is getting some breathing room as we made it to a bowl game, and won. And now we are miraculously 3-1, despite having one the very worst defensive efforts in the nation. But for the great play on O, Holt would be in very bigger trouble.

But 2-3 good D games, in 2.33 years, is actually quite hideous. Only because the program had been allowed to go all the way down, and now the improvements are covering for Holt, is Nick Holt still around. Now Coach Holt has the next 2-3 games to prove that he has something good going on. If things do not get better on D, really f’ing soon, then I see Holt being put on the hottest seat he has ever felt.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Another disturbing trend

We seem pretty balance in the amount of yards we give up. It seems like Nebraska, Oregon and others have no problem running on us. Yet EWU, Hawaii, ASU, AU, and others have no problem throwing on us. I’d have more confidence if we were good at stopping at least one aspect of opposing offenses.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

The Doorknob Effect

Just like" The Doorknob" in high school, our D just keep giving it up. And why, in HS, did we call her “the doorknob”, you ask? – because everyone got a turn.

And now every program in the country knows that if thery want to have a hay-day on offense, you just gotta’ play the UW Huskies. I don’t know about you guys, but I am tired of taking shyte about this from my Coug, Duck & Beaver friends. Our D needs to crank it up, f’ers.

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ask your Cougar and Beaver friends how their teams are doing this year.

Ask yourself why you’re friends with a Duck.

by Bugs Dodger on Sep 28, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Friends With A Duck....

….beacause he lived in Seattle for 20+ years, and is indeed a good guy. And believe you me, I more than hand-back the abuse to the Cougs, Beavs & duck. It just hurts like hell that they can make fun of our defense, and be so damned right about it.

Fire Holt!

by The Dude 4 Real on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Defense is close....really? yes!

unfortunately for us…it’s razor edge thin in terms of experience. But look at how close this team is to having a very special team (and season!) ? The offense is going nuts! and this is happening without a QB having his legs…a line that’s really hitting on all cylinders…(yet..) a running back (s) that are quite 100% (yet..) and a recieving corp.(with real TE’s!) that will constantly improve throughout the season! This is very good news that isn’t being discussed much if ever? The “short-bus” special teams of weeks gone by, look like they’ve been replaced with “hair-on-fire” very hungry special teams with urgency and focus! That’s 2/3rds of the team showing solid,positive confident improvement! Now, think about this; “if” the front 3-4 can be pissy (instead of pussy?) …Clone #6s brain and implant it into #28s helmet? Tweak the edge players and mix in situational nickel and dime packages…? Holt can still play his “conservative” backend comfort zone style while getting after it and creating chaos in the process! Just take away #28s first 3-4 plays of EVERY game and you pretty much take away 100-150yds. passing and 14 or so points! One or two things and it’s a whole new game. It’s that close…and it better happen now!

by gliderdawg on Sep 28, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holt only plays his conservative backend comfort zone...

because he’s not comfortable yet with much man to man, and the first few plays of the game aren’t helping him to feel comfortable with it! While the numbers aren’t good, the young guys that will be helping us get better over the next few years are playing now or on special teams and are starting to make plays at important times.

People can crap on the defensive all they want, but the defense has made some significant stops when necessary late in games to help us win. That could not be said a few years ago. We’re not there yet, but as our two deeps start getting more experience and making less mistakes, their athleticism will show through and the holes will close.

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by Carne Guisada on Sep 28, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I completely agree...and who can blame him?

28 has almost singlehandedly killed us on the first plays of the last 2+games…And an actual pass rush would be nice? I think it’s coming.. If everyone on the Dawg D who isn’t named Cort, Desmond, or Justin would just let it loose this squad will be very good….in time for saturday I hope!

by gliderdawg on Sep 28, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree and think the D will step up over the course of the season. Not where we want them to be, perhaps, but progress.

by ToddWilliams206 on Sep 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Great question!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Reply Fail.

Great question Bugs!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 28, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bugs is right!

Ducks are not good “friend” material….crap all over the place and eat your garden.

by gliderdawg on Sep 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Fickle Fans

And I’m left to believe all of you are the same fans that booed Tavarius Jackson who led the Seahawks to a win over Arizona. Holt is hear, he’s one of us, embrace him. Same should apply for Tavarius. Both men aren’t stuck here … they want to be hear. I’m a little disgusted with fans in the Pacific NW.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Who's Tavarius?

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 28, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does it not surprise that you're a Tavaris fan? haha

Tavaris is horrible. His only redeeming quality is that he might be bad enough to net us a really good QB this spring. But, he’ll probably screw that up, too. God he sucks.

by Steen on Sep 29, 2011 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crazi, Crazi, Crazi . . . .

It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt – Abraham Lincoln.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 29, 2011 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

The defense must get better

As of right now it is the slightly gimpy leg that might not be progressing as fast as the offense, but I’m not ready to amputate it and start all over learning how to walk on a prosthetic. Maybe all we need is a little more time to rehab.

by SeaHuskies on Sep 28, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

If USC finishes with a better record than Utah, but Utah plays in the CCG, can Utah claim to be the south division champions?

I say no, the team with the best conference record in a division is the champion, even if they can’t play in the CCG.

I’m having a debate with people about this on the Utah board if you are bored and want to join.

http://www.blocku.com/2011/9/28/2455162/i-think-there-might-be-a-home-game-this-saturday#comments

by UW11Bowdown on Sep 28, 2011 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

BS.

It’s UCLA’s to lose. Kirk Herbstreit told me so.

by Sundodger on Sep 28, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

For the Bucks we are paying Holt I think we could do a lot better. Would like someone from SEC or Pros. Tired of all the excuses just think next year when we lose Dennison – Richardson – Thompson – Ta amu and maybe Trufant those guys are the heart of the D. Who do we have to replace them? The opposing teams QB – RB or receiver have career days against this D .

We can not stop a Nebraska O with two walk on linemen and freshmen OL – a QB that throws like a girl – and very average RB. EWU is winless – average 17 points per game outside UW – scored 27 against us. Hawaii only scores 20 against UNLV (the 118th ranked D pts) after scoring 32 against us.

If we did not have 3 home games what would our record be? Not sure if we win any of these games if on the road.

by lorenzothedog on Sep 28, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That's some scary stuff there!

After those graduation losses.. I can only imagine the “lack of bullets” defense getting worse? Ouch! Who’s available for the future coordinator job? I’d volunteer if I wasn’t so busy….

by gliderdawg on Sep 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I crazy for liking the way Ducre has looked so far?

He’s obviously inexperienced, but he has shown he isn’t afraid to stick someone and he’s fast as hell.

by Bamer_ on Sep 28, 2011 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I like him

He’s got a competitiveness that I like. Gregory just needs to hit the weight room so he’s not taking the brunt of the blow on plays like his stand on the goal line.

by murchy on Sep 28, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bye....

I think we’ll see some big improvement in the D after the bye week. It’ll give the coaches a chance to review what they’re doing and give the players a chance to get healthy.

by Snostrebla on Sep 28, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd agree with that, and I sure hope you are right!

I think it was over one of the bye weeks last year that the coaches scouted themselves and made some good changes to both the offense and defense.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 29, 2011 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

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