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4/16 practice observations

I was able to head over again today (with my little son in tow) for another Saturday practice session.  I got there a little after 1 and stayed for about an hour and 15 minutes before the blustery conditions got the better of my little man and I decided to take off.  They were doing position drills for the first 40 minutes or so, followed by situational 11 on 11 work, and were breaking to go back to more position drills (I think) when I left.  I spent some time watching the OL drills and then the QB/WR drills before the 11 on 11 stuff.  I don't have detailed notes or anything, but here were a few things that I noticed:

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Regarding the size of the OL - they are not the tubby blobs they were under Ty.  There really isn't anyone out there that looks sloppy, and some of the newer kids they've recruited showcase a desire for leaner, more athletic kids.  Guys like James Atoe, Colin Porter and Erik Kohler have good size, and are clearly thick in a good way.  Which is not to say they don't have room for improvement in that regard, but they come closest to looking the part.  Senio Kelemete also, though wasn't in pads.  Drew Schaefer and Skylar Fancher have decent size too as you'd expect among upper classmen.  Ben Riva is still on the lean side, as is Micah Hatchie.  Hatchie appears to have good upper body strength, but still looks pretty lean in his lower half.  I'd expect that he's among the quicker OL out there, but as with most young OL, he still needs another year or two in the weight room to really fill out properly for a BCS conference O-lineman.  He showed good "punch" in that drill, but he's not a guy that has the lower body strength yet to bulldoze his opponent; certainly not like Porter is capable of doing.  I'm encouraged that they have the physical potential to develop into upper-level Pac-12 linemen, but the Cascade Front is still quite young, and we should temper our expectations accordingly.

Watching the QBs working out on pass plays near the goal line, I was again feeling like I had spoken too soon earlier about Nick Montana having an edge in arm strength - Keith Price was throwing harder and with tighter spirals, and it seemed like Montana was trying to put too much touch on too many of his passes.

When they moved back to midfield though, I didn't see much difference in the zip on their passes.  Neither one has nearly the arm strength of Locker, so they have to compensate by reading defenses and anticipating the WR breaking away from their defender.  In this regard, it still appears Price has the edge.  Also worth noting Price still appears to have a slight hitch in his delivery; it's not as long as it used to be, but he's still not quite as quick getting rid of the ball as he could be.  Neither QB wowed me, but neither had me scared either.  As would be expected, I think the QBs will rely quite a bit on the running game to open things up for them, and fortunately for them, they have more receiving targets than Jake had.

Kevin Smith is a guy that really passes the "look" test - he's very solidly built and quite athletic.  I think he's a strong candidate to be the 3rd WR, and will make Kasen work for it to beat him out.  James Johnson looked pretty good, but he's going to need to step up even more with Kasen coming in, Smith impressing and DiAndre Campbell also looking pretty good.

Jermaine Kearse and Devin Aguilar look really good - no surprise there.  Kearse in particular - as we all know, if he can get over his issue with drops, he's got 1st team All-Conference and NFL potential.

The young TEs provide nice targets for the QB, but they clearly need time in the weight room to become factors in the run game.  ASJ is the closest to a Pac-12 body in that regard, but I expect him to be significantly bigger and stronger in 2-3 years.  Hartvigson clearly has been limited in his upper-body workouts from his shoulder surgery, and Hudson looks skinnier than his list 250 lbs.  All these kids have big potential, but they are also very young.  I'd guess we will continue to see Kanczugowski playing some "TE" in obvious running situations.

The 11 on 11 drills were fun to watch - it was situational, with the offense lined up around the 5 I believe.  I didn't keep a tally, but it seemed roughly 50/50 between the offense scoring and the defense holding them short or dropping them for a loss.  Fun to see how into it the players and coaches on each side of the ball get, with one side or the other cheering and talking mess to the other side if they "won" that play - especially the coaches giving each other a hard time (I bet there's times Johnny Nansen would like to smack Jimmy Daugherty upside the head ;)

Nothing earth-shattering, and the coaches are still limiting the wear and tear on Chris Polk, so I don't have a great feel for where the run game and run defense are at this point.  I'm looking forward to Fall camp and getting to see Deontae Cooper showing his stuff and seeing the incoming freshmen getting into the mix.

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Gracias Bro!

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 16, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeff Lindquist was there today

:)

Covets: Mark Ingram, Marcell Dareus, Prince Amukamara, Rodney Hudson, Phillip Taylor and Owen Marecic.

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 16, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

a-ha!

So THAT’S who that was – I walked by a kid and his face looked familiar, and now that you say Lindquist was there, it’s clicking for me that I recognized him from his recruiting photos.

by kirkd on Apr 16, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol That's just funny

What was he doing? Just chilling and checking out practices?

Covets: Mark Ingram, Marcell Dareus, Prince Amukamara, Rodney Hudson, Phillip Taylor and Owen Marecic.

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 17, 2011 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much

We passed each other walking in opposite directions. I’m not sure if he’d just gotten there or not – usually when I’ve seen recruits, they tend to be right on the middle of the north sidelines where the team benches are (and which is cordoned off from the fans).

Also worth noting the sidelines were packed yesterday when I got there, most likely due to the coaches clinic that had just concluded. I looked around for a bit to see if I could spot Kevin Sumlin, but no luck.

One other note – after a few minutes of watching the OL drills, it dawned on me who one of the student assistants was helping out – Mykenna Ikehara. He was never the biggest guy to begin with, and out of pads he looked like your basic 6’2" college kid with a rugged build. I’d bet he’s dropped under 240, and is probably closer to 225 now. Too bad – he had the mentality and a lot of the skills you’d like in an OL, but he struggled to keep on good weight and then his knee gave out.

by kirkd on Apr 17, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

The more I pick up from all you guys who go out there, the more I think that Aguilar is a man getting pushed...

… Lets face it, his productivity is marginal, he’s not been able to stay healthy, and he lacks the physical strength some of the guys pushing him have. He has to rely on guile, knowledge of offense and some guts (especially as a blocker) to justify holding down the 2 spot. I’m not sure that this is enough with KS, JJ, DiAndre and Kasen all coming on.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Apr 17, 2011 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

could be

Here’s the thing though – the staff keeps lining him up with the ones, every time. And I’d quibble a little bit with the statement that his production has been “marginal”. I’d bet that one of the things the staff likes about him is that he knows the playbook and executes it, and is probably the most willing blocker of the group.

James Johnson has a lot of potential, but he’s still too inconsistent for the likes of this coaching staff. Kevin Smith is a fantastic athletic talent, and he may end up forcing his way into the top 3 by the end of the year, but he’s still pretty raw as he’s new to football. Kasen is more than likely going to push his way into the top 3 during Fall camp, but that’s more likely at the expense of Johnson or Smith than Aguilar at this point. DiAndre Campbell shows potential, but I’d expect him to really push for time in 2012.

by kirkd on Apr 17, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

it'll be interesting to see if they do keep lining him up with the 1's this Fall

… because he has produced marginally for us. Outside the one big game vs ASU two seasons ago, he’s shown little ability to beat one on one coverage, is pretty easily handled at the line in bump and drops a lot of passes. He is smart, is a good blocker and he is a leader – but is it enough? I don’t know.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Apr 17, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He catches everything...

…that alone gets him onto the field.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He works his butt off, he’s not afraid to take hits going over the middle, he blocks far better than his size would indicate, and he’s deceptively fast and shifty.

That said, I agree with your general sentiment above. He’s the best option right now, but from the team’s perspecitve, you kind of hope there’s somebody on the roster that can beat him out.

by Sundodger on Apr 18, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's more dependable to catch the ball than Kearse

Aguilar isn’t a guy that “wows” you, but he’s pretty solid. He was a close second on the team in receptions in ‘09 with 42 (compared to Kearse’s 50). He wasn’t as productive last year, but was battling injuries.

Now, I would agree with the general sentiment that, ideally, guys like Smith and Williams bypass Aguilar on the depth chart and he becomes more of a 3rd or 4th WR guy in the rotation. But he’s not someone I would consider a liability as-is either.

I think what the staff decides with him will tell us all we need to know – they don’t strike me as coaches that defer to seniority, but will play the guys they feel give them the best chance of winning regardless of how long they’ve been in the program.

by kirkd on Apr 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

More dependable?

I’m not sure I agree.

Aguilar dropped far more passes in 2009, and probably about as many in 2010. Kearse’s drops look worse because they were a regression, but Aguilar has done it with some consistency.

by Sundodger on Apr 18, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you been counting?

Just asking…that seems to be a stat that one doesn’t usually keep track of. My gut would tell me that Kearse had more, but maybe they’re more noticeable because he has the higher profile?

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 19, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's sure handed...

…that’s why they have him in returning punts too.

Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"

by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the post

Does anyone know if cameras are allowed at practice? My son and I are headed out this week, and hope to take in practices Thursday and Saturday.

by NY85Dawg on Apr 17, 2011 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

What is the motivation behind the cell phone policy?

Are they just worried about pictures and videos from cell phones? I got chastised at practice for being on my cell phone. I’m an air ambulance pilot and am basically on call 24/7. So when work called, I went a few rows up into the stands to take the call and was quickly asked to turn it off.

I definitely understand about camera’s, but I think they have allowed fans to take pictures with coaches/players after practice. Just don’t take it out during practice.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 18, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

You might want to tell them...

…you’re an emergency responder.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to make a quick call...

…the gal was pretty good about it but she at least gave me a minute or so to finish it up. She did however stay there until I hung up.

Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"

by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Smith definitely looks good ...

… athletic, aggressive on offense. I am excited to see Cooper in live action as well … in the work he got in Saturday’s practice, he looked good — fast and smooth.

No cameras at practice, by the way. And you can’t wear other NCAA teams’ gear, so leave the *ucks sweatshirts at home.

by Jeff in MD on Apr 17, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification

BTW, no worries about UO clothing in my household. We may live in NY, but as UW alum parents, we’ve raised two solid Husky fans!

by NY85Dawg on Apr 18, 2011 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played ...

… no one looks good in a green and gold Oprah shirt.

by Jeff in MD on Apr 18, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks kirkd

Sounds like we did watched the same stuff while at practice.

I like your point on the offensive line, they definitely don’t look like they have bad weight, they look lean and fit. In my practice report, I mentioned they didn’t seem as big as I’d hoped, you bring up a great point, at least they have good weight and are not a bunch of overweight, out of shape fat guys, as was the case somewhat recently.

Agree on everything else you mentioned. Neither QB excites me and neither one scares me. The offensive line is very young, how they progress will determine a lot about our season. It’s definitely going to be a building year.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 18, 2011 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

yes...

…I remember under Willingham when we went the big route and we all seemed to think that was the ticket. Boy how we were proven wrong. If your lineman can’t move and run, you can’t succeed in today’s game.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sark's System

I think that is going to help both of the QBs a lot! Him and Nussmeir and fantastic QB coaches. I don’t know who’s better but between the two of them you get great coaching.

Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"

by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

BC's Blog

I was reading Condotta’s blog and to me the only surprise was Garrett. Kevin Smith stood out as an exceptional and fast athlete last fall. Shirley was rarely failed to get to the “dummy” on pass rushing drills. Those big tackles simply can’t handle that speed coming off the edge. If they get out too wide he’s going to have to be able to take the inside route. I didn’t see him having to do that last fall. He beat them outside just about every time. Hartvigson was huge last fall. he’s got to be even bigger, and stronger now. Although I thought someone said he was coming off shoulder surgery. Still we all know you play football with your legs. So he’ll have plenty of time to work on his lower body, quickness and running. It sound like he is participating though, as far as doing all the drills, catching the ball etc. So that is a good thing. If ASJ is the real deal and lives up to all the recruiting hype. The tightends are going to have a big impact this season. And what’s great about several of these guys, they’re young. If they play well now, we’re golden for the next several years. The way Sark recruits we’ll just keep getting better and deeper. I love the way we finished the season. Going from all the whining after the first part of the season to Holiday Bowl Champions! GO DAWGS!!

Are any of you guys going to the spring game? I hope the weather is better than last year. I wish they’d open up the upper deck if it’s raining. But I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a glorious Seattle spring day!

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Zach Fogerson

That was another surprise of the guys he mentioned. It sounds like he’s going to add another element to the offense and I really like the size he brings into the backfield.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 18, 2011 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

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