Baylor - Who are these guys?
If you asked anyone at the start of the season who was going to win the 2011 Heisman Trophy the name Robert Griffin the third (RG3) from Baylor University didn't exactly roll off your lips. Heisman winners don't usually come from traditional doormat programs.
No matter how you slice it Baylor is a traditional doormat. It is one of those classic "have not" type of programs that has been recently clinging to life as a BCS conference member. Twice in the last two years the Bears were almost left behind as Texas considered a jump to the Pac 12.
Until last season they hadn't even been to a bowl game since 1994 when they were defeated 10-3 by WSU in the Alamo Bowl. In 2010 they played in something called the Texas Bowl while getting hammered 38-14 by Ron Zook and Illinois.
Nobody really saw this RG3/Heisman thing coming at the start of the season. Sure...we all knew that he was a good QB (one of the top three in the Big 12) but you need to have a fantastic year and be on a winner to have a shot at a Heisman which would be a serious challenge with the Bears defense.
The first time I took real notice of Griffin this season was when he kept matching and then surpassing UW's Keith Price for the national lead in touchdown passes. I decided to do a little research and familiarize myself with Griffin.
I learned that in 2010 he had passed for 3501 yards while completing 67% of his passes and connecting on 22 TD passes. He also scrambled for 635 yards on the ground while leading Baylor to a 7-6 record and their first bowl bid since 1994.
To me those type of stats looked very similar to what we expected out of Jake Locker during his senior season at Washington. It was obvious from looking at film that RG3 was a serious play maker and the instant the pocket breaks down it creates opportunity rather than misfortune for the Baylor offense.
Another thing I found out is that he was born in Japan and he and his family lived in the state of Washington while his parents were stationed at Fort Lewis. He played high school ball in Texas and originally was going to go to Houston until Art Briles took the job at Baylor.
This past season he passed for a sensational 3998 yards while hooking up with his receivers for a wild 36 touchdowns and only 6 interceptions. He led the nation with a 192.3 passer rating. He also rushed for 644 yards and picked up 9 of his own TD's on the ground. It was by far the best overall performance of any QB in the country this season.
The Bears finished with a strong 9-3 record after closing strong with five high scoring late season victories over Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas Tech, and arch rival Texas. Griffin ended up beating out pre-season Heisman favorite Andrew Luck who faded a bit late in the season for college football's most storied award.
So how exactly do you stop RG3 and Baylor?
Washington is going up against an offense that has been almost unstoppable over the last five games. Baylor has averaged 46.4 points and 587 yards per game during the impressive five game winning streak. So lets examine the last loss to see what happened.
Oklahoma State held them to a season low 24 points in a 59-24 win that Okie State led 35-0 at halftime. RG3 still went 33-of-50 for 425 yards, with one passing, and one rushing TD, but he tossed two interceptions, and the Bears coughed the ball up three additional drive killing times.
Despite the low point production Baylor was still able to move to amass 622 total yards against the Cowboys! So Okie State really didn't slow them down...they just forced-helped them into mistakes that kept them out of the end zone while piling up 601 yards of their own against that stingy Baylor defense.
Washington's best hope in this game is shredding a Baylor defense that gives up an average of 35.67 points and 477 total yards per game. They have to do that in order to stay in the game because the UW defense will have serious problems keeping the Bears out of the end zone in what should be an Alamo Bowl full of offensive firepower.
Stay tuned...next up will be an inside look at the Baylor defense.
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Bushels of turnovers
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by John Berkowitz on Dec 15, 2011 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
The best hope? Bend don't break
I know the fans hate it, but blitzing this guy is a recipe for disaster. The best strategy, I think, is to focus on taking away the run and play bend-don’t-break in the back half with an eye towards limiting big plays. We increase the likelihood of turnovers when we make them a passing team and make them take 12 plays to score versus 3 plays. We also know that their effectiveness in the red zone was among the worst in the Big 12, indicating that they they struggle to score in tight quarters (and their FG kicker is barely 50%). Better to make them prove to us they can do something in the red zone as opposed to taking chances that might allow them to score without tripping inside the red zone.
This isn’t sexy, but it is a winning formula. I think our D-Line has a chance to win some one on one battles against a less than stellar Baylor line and, hopefully, we can create some pressure while avoiding the damage that RG3 can do when he breaks contain.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
As much as I hate it . . .
I have to agree. That being said, it’s only “a winning formula” if our offense is playing well.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
That is basically the best we can do
That seems to be the best thing our defense does.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Agree
If we can take away some Baylor targets down field and take away some RG3 escape lanes, we might find a little defensive suceess. If we can do that, then we can mix up a few things. But if the base defense is ineffective, the mix up schemes won’t work.
All I saw was purple
I saw RGIII play in high school
I’m from the Ft. Hood/Killeen, Copperas Cove are. He was a Copperas Cove Bulldog, same high school my nephews go to. He led the Bulldogs to a national ranking, although I don’t remember what it was. Lost in the 4-A championship game his senior season. A lot of the local coaches in Cove think he purposely lost the game, they say he ran out of bounds as the clock expired with nobody near him as they were driving for the win. I didn’t see it but I’m sure he was just young and made a mistake.
I’ve always been a huge fan of his. Interesting thing, Mack Brown (and several other school coaches) recruited him but told him he could not be a QB, that he would be an athlete. Big mistake huh? Have you seen UT’s QB play the last two seasons?
area
Spell check. From the Killeen/Ft. Hood/Copperas Cove AREA.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 15, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
It is going to take a Husky miracle
If we can slow down RGIII and our offense doesn’t choke, we have a shot. I’m very interested to see KP17 healthy and rested finally. He has been great even with two sprained knees and whatever other ailments dude has played with. I love Keith Price!
I will be attending the game, it is my first Husky game. I’m very excited, two more weeks! It sucks that I have to root against Baylor, which is the only Texas team I love. It’s awesome that I get to see RGIII the heisman winner though. I hope we give him a concussion.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Miracle?
I think it will be a close roller coaster type of game. Both squads are capable of putting serious points on the board. A healthy Keith Price is a very good thing heading into this one.
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by John Berkowitz on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Very similar...
I think Baylor’s defense is worse than Washington’s…we need to take advantage of that.
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by John Berkowitz on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
It is way worse
I think Baylor’s D makes ours look competitive.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 16, 2011 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
Our offense has not been up to the challenge in big games this year
I have heard the, “We will be able to score against them” argument too many times this season. All of those times, our offense turned the ball over, dropped several passes, couldn’t block anyone. Our team has shyed away from every big game this season. Let’s hope this one is different, I love your confidence.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 16, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
We did score against "them"
The only games we didn’t score more than 30 points were Stanford, Oregon, USC and OSU. Stanford, USC and Oregon are 2, 3, and 4 in scoring defense in the Pac-12 this year. Utah is number one and we hung 31 on them. Oregon State was a mess, be we started a debutante QB and still mustered up 21.
Our team didn’t get up for big games against big defenses…Baylor is about as far from a big defense as you can possibly be.
its not gonna take a miracle...
… just a complete, well executed game. We stack up talent for talent.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 15, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's my point
How many complete, well executed games have we had against good competition? I think we will do it, I’m just saying.
by datboyeddiep on Dec 16, 2011 7:14 AM PST up reply actions
Baylor's D is not good competition
I think that’s where you’re getting it twisted. Except for Stanford and USC, our defense stepped up in terms of holding teams below their season average for points. Doing it on both sides of the ball at the same time is going to be the issue, but the “big game” factor has nothing to do with the Offense, because BU is a bad defense.
You are correct
Bu’s D is horrendous! It’s going to be all on our offense to put pressure on Baylor’s offense. I just hope we are up to the task!
by datboyeddiep on Dec 17, 2011 3:34 AM PST up reply actions
These practices seem like a good time to hammer out a sore point in our defense.
Edge control. We got murdered around the corners this year, and with a great scrambling QB coming up in the bowl game it would be nice to see some wisdom and discipline instilled in Shirley and our other DEs.
Edge control
The weight room, return of Jamora, development, and recruiting are the keys to control on the edge…not sure if you can get there in 15 practices with the current personnel.
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by John Berkowitz on Dec 15, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
100% agree
Most of the stuff up the middle was more or less held in check. Where we suffered the most was on the perimeter. That does tend to happen when your DEs are freshmen, OLBs are freshmen, and your Corners do not get in position to turn the play inward and when they do our freshmen DEs and OLBs are out of position to defend it. We have to hammer this home during this stretch of practice.
All I saw was purple
It isn't going to take a Husky miracle
It’s going to just take a lot of planning and work.
What the Huskies need to do is almost exactly what they did defensively against Oregon: stop big plays. Force Baylor to march down the field on methodical drives. Don’t give up anything more than 10 yards. Because Baylor is explosive, but they’re not methodical. They can get stalled and they can get a bit stircrazy if they don’t get something going fast. This means not going nuts with blitzing. Not going for the crazy pick and staying in coverage unless you have help. Making sure you wrap up instead of going for the fumble hit. Let them make the mistakes by having to do the same thing over and over; Baylor isn’t as disciplined and will expect to steamroll. The more they don’t, the more they’ll lose composure.
On offense, it’s a similar strategy: ball control. Assume that you must at least get 40 yards every single drive if not score. You can’t go deep all that often; it makes the game longer and is less likely to be successful. Instead, run. Run a lot. Throw possession passes with occasional 20-yard threats. Win first down. And take as much time as you can; the fewer possessions there are, the more it will favor a big event that will favor the Huskies.
Special teams are probably not a large factor. both teams can eat up yards in a hurry. as long as no huge plays (blocked punt/KR/PR return for TD) happen, giving up okay field position should be fine; there’s very little difference to Baylor starting at the 20 and the 30.
Nothing is assured for Baylor...
… keep in mind that, statistically, UW will be the 5th or 6th best defense that Baylor has faced all season. It’s not like we are going to be the mushiest group of defenders that that the green and gold will have encountered. There is going to be opportunities to make plays when they have the ball … the question is whether or not we seize them.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Baylor can stretch the field far better than UO
they aren’t as strong on the LOS which might benefit us with our appalling edge containment. But you’re right that we need to stop the big play.
Wow, again.
Spot dead on my dear Duck friend.
Everything you said, plus a net 2 – 3 turnovers.
BTW, we’re all counting on your Ducks tio care care of business for Pac-12 honor.
Best Regards,
by HuskyInExile on Dec 16, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
We are way under the radar
which is great. You have to think that Baylor will come in thinking UW will be a cake walk. Somewhat similar circumstances to last year’s Holiday Bowl. It’s probably a good thing there is so much hype with RGIII and no mention of the Huskies as if we are a non-opponent. Also RGIII is not all that consistent. That was Baylor’s problem last season. While this season is much better for him, it definitely works in our favor that he is spending a lot of time on the interview circuit. If our defense can just somehow put together a decent game like our last bowl game, we have a chance. Only downer is it will definitely be an Away Game environment.
Not so much
Baylor has absolutely no fan base. Most of thsoe fans will be BS fans that just jumped onto the wagon. Trust me, I have yet to meet someone other than myself who likes Baylor. I see a few people wearing Baylor hats now but they just bought them. RG3’s sophmore year I tried to buy a Baylor hat here in Austin, and couldn’t find one. Couldn’t find one!
Our fans will be more passionate and definitely louder! I’m not sure how many of us will be there, but we can make it a homefield environment more than those fake Baylor and RG3 fans!
by datboyeddiep on Dec 16, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Under the radar and POed about it.
ESPN? Keep your weak ESPN bullshit coming. Ladle up more and more (and MORE!) of that RG#3 Heisman butt-smoochin’ goodness. That’s precisely what Sark needs to focus his teams attention for 4 quarters, unified in a furious crusade to overturn the idiotic narrative.
Yeah
I try to stay away from the tabloid known and ESPN. They are so full of you know what! They won’t even talk about us going into this bowl season. The best we will get is, “they are going to have a hard time containing RG3.” Let me know how often you hear that BS. It was the same thing against Nebraska last season. No respect!
by datboyeddiep on Dec 16, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Phil Steele
Phil was on Bill King’s radio program talking about the fact that there are often bowl matchups where one team is over-hyped relative to the actual total competitiveness of the matchup and that,more times than not, it is the under-hyped team that delivers the upset. He was talking specifically about the Boise St / ASU matchup in this game, but also noted the Alamo Bowl and a few others.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
To add to that...
Winning the Heisman is a huge distraction. Griffin’s focus isn’t going to be anywhere close to 100% on the game this month.
It isn’t uncommon at all to see the Heisman winner deliver a less-than-stellar bowl game.
He's got a new Heisman reputation to live up to.
Think he’s going to press a little? Think his helmet might fit a little snug?
I'm sure that reading the top 10 on Letterman wasn't a distraction at all.
… nor are all the media requests for interviews and visits.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
And I'm sure he's sticking to a nice, healthy diet on the buffet scene.
I heard him interviewed on KJR today. He’s very impressive. Intelligent, and comes across as genuinely humble.
It will also be interesting to see how well opposing coaches do at game planning
I think this is underlooked, especially for bowl games where the really smart guys can find a lot in opposing team’s to take advantage of, and develop some new wrinkles of their own.
The DawgFather was arguably one of the best (bowl) game day planners, and that Big Time UT recruiter is certainly one of the worst (their philosophy is still: go GET the very best players, then just line up and play . . . )
Best Regards,
Offensively: O line play is huge
When Price has time in the pocket, he has shown the ability to pick apart a defensive secondary. When he doesn’t, he either throws wild or is on his back. Sark will open up the playbook for the bowl game, but everything rests on the shoulders of the O line. We need a strong performance from this group to win.
All I saw was purple

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