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Nebraska at Washington Discussion Thread

Hey guys, all of Husker Nation has been suffering through the first two weeks of this season as we played a couple of patsies that didn't really tell us much about ourselves.  Consequently, we've all been looking ahead to our game this coming Saturday out in Seattle, and I thought it would be fun to set up a discussion thread, especially because I doubt either fan base knows much about the 2010 version of the team they're about to face. Some of my thoughts on Nebraska after the jump.

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Nebraska is 2-0 with 49-10 and 38-17 victories over Western Kentucky and Idaho.

On offense, the Huskers have looked explosive, but inconsistent and sloppy through their first two games.  Each outing, the Huskers piled up around 500 yards of total offense while only taking about 50 snaps each game.  This is one thing that concerns Husker fans.  Obviously, our offense, wasn't very good last year, but looked good at this stage in the season, and also we still don't have a great feel for what our offense is supposed to look like because we've been scoring too quickly to be exposed to many normal situations, like 3rd down.

The Idaho game in particular drove fans nuts.  We moved the ball at will (around 9 yards per play), but fumbled 8 times, threw a pick, and racked up around 150 yards in penalties.  We really should've beaten Idaho by around 50 instead of 21.

One last hope/concern is our new quarterback.  Taylor Martinez is a redshirt freshman, and has never played on the road before.  He's very talented, and is a legitimate home run threat whenever he touches the ball.  However, he's still a freshman and is prone to freshman mistakes.

Game plan advice: Key in on Martinez.  Take away the Husker run as much as possible, and make Martinez throw.  He's only thrown around 30 passes so far this year and has no TD's and 1 int.  He's completing around 60% of his passes, but I think that's the best way to stop the Huskers and force mistakes.

On defense, our front 7 has been good, and our back 4 have been superb.  Over the first two games, the Blackshirts have sacked opposing qb's 9 times (once against WKU, 8 times against Idaho), picked off 6 passes (one against WKU, 5 against Idaho) and have been very effective when the outcome of the game was still in question.

A couple areas of concern: our front seven has let very mediocre teams have decent running days against the Huskers, with WKU averaging around 4.5 and Idaho around 4 yards per carry.  This line misses Suh, no doubt about it.  Second, is our lack of focus at times.  Our defense has been great early in the game, but has lost its fire once we got out ahead by 3-4 touchdowns.  That doesn't hurt against Western Kentucky, but it could against a team with a dangerous offense.

Game plan advice: Get the running game going.  As of right now, run defense is the weakness of the Blackshirts, and our secondary is one of the 2-3 best in the nation.  I realize that Locker is a very good quarterback, but take my word on this: if he is throwing on every down, Washington will lose. Get the running game going, achieve a balanced attack, and you should be able to move the ball.

I think that's all I've got.  Any thoughts from UW fans?

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UW is a run first team

and under Sark we have pounded away with a power running game mixed with some play action for the most part. There is an occasional empty set or QB draw, but we run a pretty generic offense based more on adapting than tricking. As far as passing goes, we have one of the more talented WR’s corps in the conference and the best QB in the conference. We can pass on anybody in the country, we may just need to dial it back a notch.

Your sack stats are troubling, although our O-line outdid it self against a very formidible Syracuse D-line on Saturday. I think we should be okay in the pass protection department, and if Jake is making good decisions this weekend he should be able to find his checkdown and beat the blitz more often then not. Run blocking has been an a concern, especially on the right side. Chris Polk is a tough between the tackles runners that will average about 4-5 yards per carry, 3-4 of those will be after he was hit in the backfield.

I expect a Husker win to be honest, as this team still has alot of work to do. That said, Husky Stadium is the great equalizer, and is one of the better home field advantage stadiums in the country. If UW can mount a couple of big drives and rattle your QB early we have more than a 50/50 shot of pulling this off. My hope pick is that UW’s experience and HFA pull this out 31-28, but my head says the Huskers come away with a tough 35-28 win.

by B Money on Sep 12, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Achilles Heal

Teams that can run effectively can play with Nebraska. That will be their Achilles Heal this year. Their lack of depth shows at linebacker and they don’t get the penetration from the line that they are accustomed to without big Suh.

The offense has looked very sloppy (and thats’s against mediocre at best defenses) and this will be Martinez’s first road game. This will be a fun game and could go either way.

by Aaron Musfeldt on Sep 13, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed..on all counts

Losing Compton and Fisher before the season started was ridiculously bad luck and is really hurting run support from our linebackers.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The mobile QB really concerns me.

The Huskies lack pursuit speed at end and in the back 7. Martinez will very likely be able to make plays with his legs if the Huskies attack him but fail to make the initial tackle. I haven’t seen the ‘Huskers play this year, but I’ve heard they’ve been using the zone read a fair amount. The Huskies have had a lot of trouble with that play for quite a while.

On the ground, the key to beating the Dawgs is to make them pursue. Mason Foster is a solid open-field tackler, but the rest of the back seven is average at best. Through the air, same thing. Get the ball to a receiver with a chance to beat one man to pick up extra yardage. The Dawgs will most likely have to blitz to get pressure, so Martinez needs to be aware of his hot reads, and deliver a pass that a receiver can catch-and-run with.

On defense, the Dawgs throw the ball better than they run it right now. The offensive line hasn’t been able to get consistent push in the running game. As you are well aware, Locker is a dangerous runner, but he’s shown to be the most dangerous when a play breaks down as opposed to designed runs. BYU had a great plan for him – instead of pursuing him, they made him decide where he was going to go. They were willing to give up 2 or 3 yards each time in order to avoid the big play. Obviously, Nebraska is faster than BYU, but Locker has been really effective at making (overly?) aggressive defenders look like arm tacklers. Chris Polk is a straight-ahead runner that doesn’t really look to avoid contact. Mike Rozier lite, but without the dominant offensive line. If he gets a head of steam, he’ll break tackles. The issue, due to the offensive line, is getting that head of steam. Nebraska’s D is likely too fast to see much wide running. It’ll be mostly straight ahead, with a look to cut back once (if) the backs get through the line.

As you said, the passing game is strength against strength. Devin Aguilar is a smallish receiver, and a big corner can bump him off his route enough to delay him coming open. Jermaine Kearse is strong, athletic, and has great hands. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he’s not a plodder. Nebraska’s base defense will play well for them in limiting Kearse. I expect he’ll be bracketed most of the game.

The Dawgs will want to run play action, but that will be predicated on getting a semblance of a running game established. The tight ends have been a non-factor so far this season. This would be a great game for a breakout.

UW’s special teams have been bad. The backup punter was very slow getting his kicks off last week, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the ‘Huskers come after him. Coverage has been exceedingly poor. UW’s kicker is very good.

The Dawgs only have one turnover so far this season. They’ll have to win the takeway battle pretty handily to have a legit shot Saturday.

by Sundodger on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice post.

Agree with everything. Saturday is going to be a really tough game.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 13, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

We gotta win this game,

if Locker wants a snowballs chance for Heisman.

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by RolloTomasi on Sep 13, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 13, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

this pretty much nails it

I think Washington has to continue to be themselves on offense, i.e. attempting to gain some respect running the football to help sell the play-action, and being willing to pass in order to open up the running game. If Nebraska favors 5 defensive backs, that’s a challenge to the Washington OL to get some push up front and allow Polk the chance to take on the back 7.

Some creativity on offense will help – the introduction of our version of the fly sweep was a nice touch against Syracuse and adds another wrinkle to our offense. I’d be happy if I never saw us run a zone-read option play again, as I can’t remember the last time we’ve been successful with it. I’d rather see Jake pump-fake and then take off if we’re going to call draw plays for him.

I’m really concerned about our ends and containing Martinez – I think he could really make us look bad on the ground. I think we can do OK plugging the middle of the line with Ta’amu anchoring, but the edges have me real concerned. If we can somehow keep the Huskers’ running game in check, I’m willing to take our chances seeing if Martinez and the Husker WR’s can beat our secondary.

And I’m certain we’re going to see Rasp get a punt blocked this week unless he’s made major strides. Special teams for us continue to be more of a negative than a plus, even considering how money Folk has been on field goals.

by kirkd on Sep 13, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sundodger said ...
The Huskies lack pursuit speed at end and in the back 7. Martinez will very likely be able to make plays with his legs if the Huskies attack him but fail to make the initial tackle.

I would say that pursuit speed is something that both ET and TC do have. The ability to get past their blockers in the passing game is a different story.

Then, Kirk said

I’m certain we’re going to see Rasp get a punt blocked this week

You are now officially in the Kharma Penalty Box. Boooooo!

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rasp

I thought the punter played out of his mind. Coming in for the very first time, staying composed, and getting the punt off safely everytime showed me a lot. Let’s dig deeper. His first punt was safely off, but it was a line driver- those things, if not converged on are dangerously returnable for big chunks of yards. Our punt cover team got down there and swallowed up the return threat quickly. After the opening punt, Rasp appeared to have settled down. Chalk it up to first game jitters- I think the kid will get it done time and again vs. Nebraska. He (Rasp) wastes no time in getting the punt off. So if we do have a blocked punt occur it will probably be the result of an alignment breakdown or something. As long as the protection is there, we should be fine with the youngster.

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by crazidawg on Sep 14, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hhhmm

I agree, we should be fine with the “youngster” (he’s a junior).

I thought the punter played out of his mind

If that was playing “out of his mind”, I’d hate to see an average day. By that standard, what would an average day be, one shank and one blocked punt?

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 14, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I botched his class ranking

But as far as experience he’d be considered a youngster. To step in with less then a week of practice to prepare tells me the kid played out of his mind. He got every punt off safely and no shanks. In the punter’s world that is a pretty good day, especially being so green.

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by crazidawg on Sep 14, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's been with the team for a few years now.

He’s had plenty of time to practice and get ready. I expect very good thing out of Rasp, sounds like he has a lot of power, but just because he didn’t have a punt blocked, doesn’t mean he played out of his mind.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 14, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is correct

he filled in adequately for Mahan, but there is a reason we gave Mahan a scholly. He seemed to have good feel for the pressure, but his motion was significantly slower than Mahan. He did get some good balls off.

by B Money on Sep 14, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay maybe “playing out of his mind” was an overstatement. But I liked what I saw, he got every punt off cleanly and didn’t shank one. That is what you expect from a punter on saturdays. I was pleased with what I saw…

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by crazidawg on Sep 15, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

not me

It was great that he didn’t get a punt blocked. But he was slow and will get punts blocked this year if he doesn’t speed up, and was mostly hitting line drives with little hang time.

I should be clear that I don’t expect much better out of a walk-on backup punter, but he’s a liability right now.

by kirkd on Sep 15, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

FINALLY.

Thank you for admitting it was an overstatement!

I agree with kirkd, they were all low line drives. Our coverage teams need as much help as they can get and the lack of hang time just makes it that much tougher on them.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 16, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gekko Mojo said...
I would say that pursuit speed is something that both ET and TC do have.

I’ll agree about Crichton.

But Thompson has never been an especially fast guy, and is even less so coming off his injury.

by Sundodger on Sep 14, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just look what Colin K. did to the Cal defense last night.

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by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 18, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Passing game...

… the whole “our secondary is superb” point may very well be true but is not a reason to not stick to the game plan of using the passing game to setup the run. UW is stocked at receiver positions and have two or three backs that will step up out of the backfield to run routes. This will match Jake and some of our receiving options with your LBs in short drop routes designed to cash in with YAC. Jermaine Kearse is one of the top 3 WRs in the nation statistically and is a load. He caught two of his three TDs last weekend on short screens/routes that he took to the house. If you try to take Jake and the middle of the field away from us, we will absolutely use the perimeter.

I’m more concerned about our ability to handle the pass rush on those times that we decide to take our shots. O-line play has been spotty and there are two true freshman who, while not starting, are getting lots of reps.

Defensively, our secondary hasn’t found its groove yet. I’m glad to hear that Martinez is not the second coming of Nick Foles. We’ve got speed at the DE, LB and S positions which should help contain a running QB. However, I expect he’ll be able to the get some outside edges as our DEs against your Tackles are probably a huge advantage for NEB.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting

Although one point I should clarify (I was a bit misleading on this in my post) Nebraska’s secondary is actually 5 defensive backs. Our base defensive set is nicknamed “The Peso” which is basically a 4-2-5. At no point should there ever be a linebacker trying to cover anybody man to man. This only leaves six men in the box, and once again leaves us at least marginally vulnerable to power running.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that ...

… still, do you want you 5th DB lined up against our stud RB (who has great hands – he started out as a WR recruit) in slot? I could see us doing a lot of empty backfield stuff with Locker running as an option if all he has to beat is a single LB.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually yes I do :P

Eric Hagg, our “peso back” would be the guy to cover anybody out of the backfield. He’s a senior, and has two years as a starter in his belt. He’s solid. Although I could definitely see us using him as a spy against Locker if his scrambling ability becomes an issue, which WOULD force one of our linebackers to cover your running back out of the backfield.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

ahhhh, the plot thickens as the chess match evolves.

… I’m going with the coach not named “Bo” (my least favorite character in the Dukes of Hazzard)

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Superb QB's and WR's against a Superb Secondary

Washington won’t be afraid to attack the Nebraska secondary.

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by John Berkowitz on Sep 13, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope they do

It should be very entertaining seeing the strongest aspect of each team (UW pass offense vs. NU pass defense) go head to head. Based on what I’ve seen here, and what I know from other Husker fans, each side is very confident in that aspect of their game and wouldn’t want the outcome in any other hands. Which is really the way it should be.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

How's does Nebraska project at OT?

One thing UW fans sorely miss is Te-o coming off the edge, and it showed at times against BYU and SU where the dawgs struggled to get consistent pressure in passing situations. You haven’t exactly faced respectable competition yet, but how has your O-line looked on passing downs?

by Drew_D on Sep 13, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

we have

a redshirt freshman starting at left tackle, and there’s a reason he’s starting there, despite having two more experienced tackles (one junior, one senior) splitting the rotation at the right tackle.

backup on the left side is a JUCO player that’s got potential, but still finding his way.

bottom line – the left tackle is a huge upgrade already. the two guys on the right side may be better with experience, but they’re still a little slow.

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by Jon Johnston on Sep 13, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is a reason he's starting?

… would that be the semi-nude pictures he has of the coach’s wife stashed safely on his iPhone?

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Decent...

To be honest, I really don’t know. Our offensive line is a lot deeper this year, and is supposed to be better. They’ve given up a sack in each game so far, I believe, although that was partially due to a RS freshman’s pocket presence. Washington will be an interesting test, because as you said, we haven’t really faced a decent defense yet.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

our D is ok ... but the edges of our DLine are the weak link. no doubt.

… you might have a tough time running up the middle as our DT’s are pretty good at absorbing blocks and our LBs are tackling machines.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your linebacker play will be critical

With Martinez taking snaps, we’ve run the zone read option at least 15 times a game out of the shotgun. Beyond being fast, the only other area where I’m absolutely confident in Martinez is his ability to sell the fake on the zone read. The man was born to run that play, so LB discipline will be critical.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, if you don't run it as well as Oregon ...

… then we’ve seen it.

I’ll have to look up how we did against them in those games. I’ll get back to you.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

Martinez and our running backs can probably come pretty close to matching Oregon on the zone read play, however I think they have a significant edge on us in terms of line play and passing. I have to admit, I haven’t watched Oregon a whole lot, but their passing numbers in particular have dwarfed ours.

Nebraska so far has been much more run heavy than Oregon. Personally, I think when you take talent, experience at qb, etc into consideration, we’re much more similar to Michigan offensively. But again, I need to emphasize that I really don’t know what’s going to happen. I’m confident our D will hold its own but that offense on the road scares the crap out of me right now. I’m hoping we’ll be fine, but there’s only one way to find out.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was me being sarcastic up there...

…Oregon has owned us the last few years.

And they have off-the-charts running backs.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bad

I’m running on low fuel today. But yeah basically what I already said. Oregon’s probably got the best offense in the country right now, and we’re nowhere near executing on their level. I think we have a lot of similarities to Michigan.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montlake Magic?

Maybe their something in the water, but we play so much better at home. If we come out like we did vs. the Cuse I think Washignton wins. But if we come out like we did vs. BYU then Nebraska is going home with a victory.

Syracuse’s defensive front is better then advertised and I thought our O line did a marvelous job in nullifying a lot of what they were trying to do. If we can get that same stuff from our O line, our offense should move the chains on a very talented Husker defense. We have Nebraska this week, followed by at USC. We can’t afford to lose both contests. After week 4 I’d like to at least be 2-2 and not 1-3. Sark and Holt will have the Dawgs ready….

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by crazidawg on Sep 13, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

You won't lose to USC

I followed them in both of their games and they barely eeked out wins against very pedestrian teams. I see a 7-5 finish for them this year.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

We haven't won a road game since 2007

At this point the only lock road victory on our schedule looks to be at Washington State. We play lousy on the road and to some extent it has become somewhat a mental block that we just haven’t been able to overcome. We lose to the Trojans on the road. So to go 2-2 everything rides on the Nebraska game.

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by crazidawg on Sep 13, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

There you go getting ahead of yourself again.

First things first, Nebraska is this week, that’s all that matters, nobody cares about USC (yet). That being said, Sark will have the team ready to play against SC, he knows them, he knows Kiffin. I could see Sark getting his first road victory @ USC.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 13, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I know is that we are 0 for a big fat donut on the road. And at this point no road game looks winnable until I actually see us pull one out. If we don’t beat Nebraska then it is possible that we will start the season 1-3 due to our inablity to win on the road. 1-3 doesn’t look good when you are trying to become bowl eligible. That’s all…

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by crazidawg on Sep 13, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

From what I’ve seen thus far, Nebraska (and Washington for that matter) are much, much better than USC. Amazing how far that program has fallen in two years.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC

I haven’t watched USC this season so I can’t comment intelligently where they are. To me Kiffin is all wrong for Troy. They need a sqeeky clean image coach to guide the program thru the sanction era and I don’t see that happening. What we could be seeing is a trastional phase of sorts. USC players knew what to expect from Pete Carroll and his staff. Maybe the players are still tying to figure out the nuances of Kiffin’s system and the low scoring and lack of execution could reflect that. USC is still loaded with talent- you can’t blame talent when they are loaded with it. They look vulnerable but they are still 2-0.

I will say this, our coaching staff knows the USC roster well and are not intimidated by the collesium. I think to a point that stuff should rub off on our players. However at this point I have to concede every road game a loss until I actually see us win one. I just hope it comes prior to the WSU game which is scheduled for December :)

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by crazidawg on Sep 13, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

In their two outings

USC surrendered 600 yards of offense to Hawaii, and beat UVA, a team that went 3-9 last year, including a loss to one of those dreaded FCS teams…..by 3. Maybe its my unabashed hatred for Southern Cal, but to me they seem like a below average team that will have a losing record in conference play this year.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is a bit skewed in perspective ..

… has USC been choppy? Yes. But, it is pretty clear that their offense is pretty special with Barkley and RonJohn feeding the best air attack we’ve seen from them since Leinart won the Heisman. They also have elite athletes all over that Defense. They just have to overcome a jackass for a coach.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their offense is explosive, yes

But 17 points at home against Virginia? Really? As for Hawaii, hell ARMY hung 28 on them. Maybe I’m just letting my wish for a USC meltdown this year get the best of my judgment, but I see them getting utterly massacred 2-3 times this year.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

One question that just came to mind

Does anyone know if the UW and NU Athletic Departments have any kind of special relationship? This series will have pitted us against each other for the 5th and 6th times in regular season play in the last 20 years. That is a LOT of meetings for two non-rival, out of conference teams that are so far apart geographically.

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe.

But when you look at how few teams are willing to schedule tough out-of-conference games, you’re bound to start seeing a lot of repeats. Once you remove the entire SEC, most of the Big 10, and a fair portion of the Big 12, the pool of OOC teams out there willing to play someone gets pretty small.

by Sundodger on Sep 13, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...maybe

Although from just pure memory, I can’t think of a single other team we’ve had more than one home and home series with over the last 20 years, much less three.

Maybe our AD’s were just trying to get the magic going again. Each of the previous two series, one of our squads got abused as the other team was in the middle of a national title run. Idk, just thought it was odd (not that I mind, UW is a fun school to take on).

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by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting question

I’m wildly speculating here because I don’t have any inside info, but here are some things that might be factors:

- As Sundodger said, there’s only so many programs that are still willing to schedule tough OOC games;
- I think UW fans and supporters have a great deal of respect and admiration for the class and passion of Nebraska fans after our experience in Lincoln in 1991, and so there is support from boosters to schedule Nebraska because visiting fans are generally well-received there;
- For the UW, Nebraska is viewed as a marquee matchup that’s good for ticket sales and TV coverage; for Nebraska, the UW is enough of a “name” that the Huskers won’t look like wimps for scheduling us, and they get a chance to advertise themselves to west coast kids;
- The schools like to take advantage of how everyone compares the nicknames “Huskers” and “Huskies” (OK, maybe not… :) )

It’s worth noting that the AD’s that scheduled these 3 recent home and aways were all different on the UW side – Mike Lude scheduled the first set, Barbara Hedges scheduled the second set and Todd Turner scheduled the third set.

by kirkd on Sep 13, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And there's new AD staff in Lincoln as well.

I’m not sure if Dollar Bill Byrne or [expletive deleted] (aka Steve Pederson) set this one up, but Byrne left for A&M and you all likely heard how much we’ve missed Stevie P the AD. You might have heard of the guy who replaced him – used to coach a bit ’round Lincoln.

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by Go Big Rev on Sep 13, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Osbourne a Hack

am I missing something here???? He’s a legend as a coach and a leader!!!!

Matthew 11:28-30
Homer Simpson: "Mmmmm,Beeeeer!!"
Dean Wermer: "Fat,drunk,and stupid is no way to go through life!"
Complacency is the enemy of progress!

by sd.husker on Sep 13, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

for someone who quotes Homer Simpson in his signature ...

… I’m surprised that you don’t recognize (attempts at) comedy.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

jdhusker - series scheduling

UW has a very long history of scheduling recurring home & home ooc games with major conference opponents. We’ve done Notre Dame & navy as well . . .
Best Regards,

PS: GREAT thread with lots of good info in both directions, and no darn trolls.

by HuskyInExile on Sep 13, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And had seriously considered hiring Pellini.

It was actually Pellini who suggested that the UW AD hire Sarkisian.

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Sep 15, 2010 2:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

from what I read, it sounded like Pellini gave Sarkisian a good recommendation, which is a lot different than suggesting we hire him.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 15, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

Did not know that. Uh…thanks for not hiring him. :P

Very interesting though.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 15, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

He would have been a candidate had the UW followed through with firing Ty after year 3, but once the powers that be backed-off on that for a variety of reasons, that dropped us out of the Pellini sweepstakes.

by kirkd on Sep 15, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could be.....

The year the Dawgs shared the NC with the Canes, they went to Lincoln to play the Huskers. I don’t remember the specifics, but the Huskers came out and punched the Dawgs right in the mouth and were up at the half. After the half the Dawgs came out and ran away with the game…. again I don’t remember the specifics, but I think the final was 38-17 Dawgs or something close to that.
I recall alot of Husker fans, and the nation for that matter, came away from that very impressed with the Dawgs performance. I believe that game was kind of was a coming out part and helped propel the UW to a NC that year.
Again, the Huskers and the Huskies came away with a lot of mutual respect for each other, and I believe this is why Nebraska and UW continue to play each other because of this deep and mutual respect.
Just my take…… I could be wrong though.

by StewClan on Sep 17, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alright...

…I’ll be the first to ask a question about what’s happening off the field. More importantly, before the game kicks off.

Sooo…Huskies fans…any tailgating tips or tricks for the visiting Red Horde to Husky Stadium. Where to go? What to do prior to kick off?

I know there is construction around the stadium (and apparently that section of Seattle as well). Is this going to damper tailgating or not? Any decent bars around campus that we can go to instead?

by Doc1028 on Sep 13, 2010 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Doc

If it’s in your budget, sign up for tailgaiting on a boat (or better yacht if you have a friend :) on Lake Union prior to the game. Kind of like Neyland stadium on the river, except the view is 1000% better. Nothing like it anywhere else!

by HuskyInExile on Sep 13, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you don't do the boats (which you should absolutely)

… then just go park your car somewhere in the U-District and hang out on the Ave (University Avenue). The stretch between 40th and 50th is chock full of good times. I would stick to the southern half and check out UW hang outs like The Big Time Brewery, Shultzy’s, and Finn McCool’s. Then, as the game approaches, follow the crowd in the walk across campus. You’ll see Red Square, the Drumheller Fountain and, if you are lucky, a picturesque view of Mt. Rainier just past the fountain.

Have fun.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 13, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

One last question before I go to bed

Has anyone heard which conference’s officials are going to officiate this game? I really hope that nobody takes this personally but…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMX_17icIHg
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post//id/12993/pac-10-officials-blew-call-get-punished
blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O1QGjGFYlg

I’d feel a little better about things if the Big 12 officiated this one.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 13, 2010 11:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Every Pac-10 fan hates Pac-10 officals...

don’t fret, you’re not going to offend anyone.

by B Money on Sep 14, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pac 10 res suck.....I don't know why.

Semper Fi'
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Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Sep 14, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

*refs

Semper Fi'
WatchKalibRun.com
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Sep 14, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame Tom Hansen...

and that’s only kind of a joke, he never held refs accountable for mistakes. It took the UO-OU fiasco to get Hansen to do much of anything, and they got a one game suspension and a vague statement.

Pac-10 refs are notorious in both BB and FB, and it seems like Scott is cracking down on bad calls. I really like that he said this specifically

We know mistakes are made in games, but we will not tolerate our officials misinterpreting the rules

by B Money on Sep 14, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem

Pac 10 officials haven’t the slightest clue as to how to use instant replay correctly. If the call goes up to the review official, that guy sitting up there can’t be an interpreter. He has to have complete video knowlege and sufficient video evidence to over turn a call made on the field and that hasn’t happened. So many times I’ve watched Pac 10 games and the guy reversing the call on the field overturns the call based off incomplete video evidence. So to all Pac 10 instant replay officials out there. Note: if you see a play where you think the knee is down, but an opponent’s leg is in the way of your view, then the call stands as called on the field- QUIT making stuff up! Either it’s in the video or it’s not- that is how instant replay is suppose to work in the NCAA.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Sep 14, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Loudest recorded game in NCAA history

I know the situation isn’t the same as in ‘92 when Huskies were #1 and Nebraska was #12, but the fact remains that Husky stadium holds the record for loudest game at 133.6 decibels. I’m calling on all Dawg fans to give it all you got to help our guys. Nebraska also travels very well so the atmosphere should be outstanding!

by SeaHuskies on Sep 14, 2010 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Absolutely

The game is sold out so it should be intense. I know that Nebraska’s 8,000 seat allotment sold out in like a day. If I had to bet, I’d say we’ll have around 10,000-12,000 fans there. Obviously everything above that is great for us, as every red clad fan in the stands will be one who ISN’T screaming at our freshman quarterback.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 14, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be interested to hear other thoughts on this, but I think the stadium will be at LEAST half Nebraska fans.

by Bakuto on Sep 15, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt that

I could see 1/3, but it’s not going to be half.

by kirkd on Sep 15, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

One of our local reporters who’s usually pretty accurate put the estimate based on local travel agencies, Stubhub, and Seattle hotel reservations that the number will be around 20,000-25,000. If true, that’s a fantastic turnout by Husker fans, and would seriously tamp down the noise factor, but no way will it be 50/50.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 16, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

That many season ticket holders (of all schools mind you) often use these big games to make a few hundred dollars on sites like Stubhub.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/huskies/archives/221396.asp

“According to figures from StubHub.com, which sells more tickets than any other site, the UW-Nebraska matchup will be a packed affair that has become the highest-grossing game of the week for the ticket-selling site.

The data indicates that Huskies fans are outpacing Nebraska fans at a 2-1 rate in buying up available tickets, but the atmosphere should still have a red tint to it."

It gives no hard numbers, but logic would assume that 90% of those Stubhub tickets are from UW season ticket holders, and the fact that Nebraska fans are getting 1/3 of them would mean that there’ll be more Nebraska fans there than our allotment number would suggest.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 16, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

no doubt

If we take the Stubhub estimate as accurate, it would break down something like this:

~42,000 season tickets
~8,000 visiting tickets

Which would leave 22,000 tickets available. This is obviously a rough estimate, but if we project a 2:1 ratio of Husky fans to Husker fans in buying up those tickets, that means:

14,667 tickets bought by Husky fans
7,333 tickets bought by Husker fans

Meaning a total of:

56,667 Husky fans
15,333 Husker fans

I’d guess that the actual number of Husker fans might be higher than that, but probably not the 20,000 figure I’ve seen thrown out there.

by kirkd on Sep 16, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree

Obviously, I’m hoping for 20,000+ Husker fans, but really something in the 15,000-18,000 range would be both an impressive showing and helpful to our team. Not to mention more realistic.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Sep 16, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't bet against 20,000+

Husker fans brought season tickets just for this game. A travel agency in Nebraska brought a large number of season tickets just for this game. Something like 150. I brought 2 season tickets and the tickets and I am a
Nebraska fan. I remember when Notre Dame Stadium was filled with red
as a result of people figuring out how to get tickets. My guess is that most of the tickets at Stubhut would go to Nebraska fans because why would a Husky fan pay so much for the ticket to 1 game when they can just get a season ticket.
A lot of tickets were sold on Ebay as well. Husker Nation travels well especially when the team doing well.

by tiques on Sep 17, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody is questioning Husker fans.

But 20,000 is ridiculous, let’s try and be somewhat realistic. 15K, at most.

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by Lear Pilot on Sep 17, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might not be the same situation

but the stadium is 20 years more unsteady and the fanbase is 10 years more deprived of success. I want to have shitty camera angles all night because they can’t use the earthquake angle from the pressbox.

by B Money on Sep 14, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's close to the Seahawks NFC Championship game

Where I believe that it was at 135.7 decibels. Holy fuck, that is loud.

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Sep 15, 2010 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember it clearly

First night game in Husky Stadium history. It was an amazing crowd. We as a collective whole of Husky fans were at our peak there in the early ’90’s. Age and lousy football have conspired to render us less effective unfortunately.

by kirkd on Sep 15, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't attended many Husky games,

and those I have were lackluster both in performance and enthusiasm by team and crowd. I was at the Seahawks’ NFC title game and wow! I know I did my part as I was hoarse for three days afterward. NW football fans can bring it if you give them a reason.

by hairofthedawg on Sep 15, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

You missed out

I remember going to games growing up and people begging and pleading for tickets all the way down montlake as you walked in. It was almost like a refugee camp outside Hec Ed there were so many people with scrawled signs.

by Drew_D on Sep 15, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Husky fans thrived on great defense and lending their support to the cause. For pretty much the entire DJ era and into the Lambo era the fan devotion to being loud for the defense was rewarded and they fed off of each other. That started to wane late in the Lambo era as our defense waned, and while there were some loud crowds for big games under Neuheisel (Michigan, Miami), too many 3rd and long situations being converted really started sapping the energy of the crowd.

It can come back, but the team needs to start winning and proving to be salty on defense again.

by kirkd on Sep 15, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call it "Husky-itis"

For instance, last Sunday morning I went on an early morning flight after going to the Syracuse game on Saturday. My co-pilot asked why my voice sounded so bad, I just told him I had a moderate case of “Husky-itis”. I fully expect to have a severe case of “Husky-itis” after the game on Saturday.

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"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Sep 16, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

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