UW at BYU - Psychology and Defense
Though the Vegas betting line favors BYU by three points, most of the betting pundits advise their clients to bet on Washington as the game grows closer. The following is a quality example of what the tout sheet guys are predicting.
This game promises to be a high-scoring matchup. Washington returns Locker, its leading rusher, and top five receiving targets. That’s bad news for a BYU defense that returns only five starters from last year’s unit that harassed and knocked Sam Bradford out of the game. While BYU will surely be able to move the ball on the ground against Washington, it’s hard to imagine a freshman making his first start being able to keep up with the Huskies and Locker’s passing. A tight game will unfold for a half before Washington pulls away for a win in a shootout.
All that aside, there are some serious intangibles to consider heading into this one which Washington must successfully deal with if they hope to start the season with a victory. The first one is simply the psychology of playing on the road and winning; this is a program that has not won away from Husky Stadium since November, 2007.
Playing in Provo is never a picnic and this year there is some added fuel to throw on the fire: there will be 60,000 rabid fans in the seats of Edwards Stadium who seriously hate the Pac 10. The inclusion of Utah and the rejection of BYU by the Pac 10 is something that will not be taken lightly on Saturday. This may be the most hostile environment the Huskies will play in all season.
Steve Sarkisian understands the challenge and took the unusual step last week of scheduling a mock intrasquad game at the Seahawks training facility. The exercise was a full rehearsal of a Husky road trip that included a walk through, meetings, simulated game on a grass field, and an overnight stay in an unfamiliar hotel. I guess we find out on Saturday how well it ended up working.
One thing the experts all seem to agree on is that the Washington offense is capable of putting more points on the scoreboard than BYU. They also are predicting a shoot-out, meaning there is little respect for Washington's defense.
In the article mentioned above, it bluntly states that "BYU will surely be able to move the ball on ground against Washington." I am not buying into that; I don't believe any of the prognosticators are familiar with a guy named Alameda Ta'amu. My guess is they will after this Saturday, who has transformed his body over the past off-season. We saw glimpses of what Ta'amu could do last season but a lack of conditioning limited his effectiveness to maybe three solid plays in a row at best last season. He is faster, lighter, stronger,and most importantly is capable of staying in the game longer this season before requiring a breather.
I believe the play of Ta'amu and Cameron Elisara inside is key to a Washington victory on Saturday. Ta'amu's ability to draw and blow up double teams opens up opportunities for Elisara, Talia Chrichton, Everette Thompson, and the linebackers. Elisara plays with a high motor and has been disruptive all camp. If UW can cause enough havoc inside it is going to start negating those BYU tackles (big blocks of granite) on the outside.
Washington needs to come out and control the tempo of this game. Defensively the Huskies need to control the line of scrimmage and take BYU out of their game plan. They need to put BYU into obvious throwing situations, apply the heat, pick up turnovers, eliminate the big play, and produce three and outs. Punch BYU in the mouth early and often by forcing them into third and long situations.
Offensively UW need to score early and often. Nothing takes the home crowd out of the game like an early two touchdown lead. Keep the ball in Jake Locker's hands the majority of the game on Saturday and good things will happen. If Washington controls the line scrimmage Jake is going to have a big day.
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I just put my head through my monitor! “TAW-AWE-MOOOOO!” And friends.
Best Sportsbook?
Never heard of them, but they probably know a lot about football; after all, they did pick the Dawgs. Sark and Holt seem real happy with the D and hopefully what they see every day is more accurate than what Sportsbook saw (or read). I forgot about that shocker in Norman last year, but I still think we can control BYU’s running game.
That game (BYU at Oklahoma) was actually played in the new Cowboys Stadium in Dallas, TX. I think we might be catching BYU at the right time. Only 5 returning starters on defense, breaking in 2 new QBs, and lost their star thumping RB. But let’s remember it is still boys vs. men when you play BYU. The BYU roster will be flooded with guys who are married, have kids, and the average age is 25 or 26.
3 more days and counting. I’m worried about our defense, yet we have most everybody back. This is Holt’s 2nd year implementing his defense and Ivan’s 2nd year of player development- I only hope year 2 makes a huge difference on the defensive side of the ball.
Go Dawgs! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
Yeah As Much As...
…they touted our offense, even Sark said that the D had the upper hand overall during fall camp.
Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"
Agreed John
The game will be won on our abiltiy to control the L.O.S. and how effective our defense plays.
The altitude thing is tough, hope we bring some extra oxygen. BYU fans can be ticked off all they want. Utah, over the course of the decade, was the more worthy pick for expansion if you ask me. Of all the teams in the Pac 10 to come into Provo, I think Washington could be the best candidate of them all. Why? Because we are hungry for a road victory and if we get a lead, I can’t see anybody taking their foot off the gas.
All I saw was purple
No way
There is not a chance that Provo “may be the most hostile environment the Huskies will play in all season.” We play at Autzen this year.
I think John illustrated that to point out how pissed BYU is at the Pac 10. BYU fans are going to let us know how they feel about the snub. How many does Autzen hold? I don’t think you can get 60,000 into Autzen like you can LaVell Edwards Stadium. If anything it may assist us in figuring out how to control crowd noise.
All I saw was purple
Trying to figure out what that has to do with any of this
I sense the BYU stadium will be very loud because of the Pac 10 snub and the fact we elected to take their rival Utah. BYU is a very loud venue and the snub could increase the volume.
All I saw was purple
"I sense the BYU stadium will be . . ."
Okay, Yoda.
But “I sense” that nobody cares what Crazi “senses”. We only care about facts, and the facts are that Autzen Stadium is much louder than BYU.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I dunno
I can grant you that Autzen is probably, on average, louder than Edwards. But don’t discount the added dynamic in this game of a fan base that feels freshly insulted by the Pac-10 and getting to open their season against…a Pac-10 team. I wouldn’t bet against it being extremely loud in Provo to start the game.
Why the sudden urge to defend Crazi all the time?
I never said BYU would be quiet or friendly, I expect a very hostile environment.
But UW at BYU isn’t going to be nearly as bad as UW at Autzen.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lavelle Edwards stadium just can’t compete with the vulgarity and profanity at Autzen. Particularly Autzen when the UW is there.
Those good Mormon folks just don’t know how to cuss; at least not all of them.
You'd Be Surprised...
…what a good Mormon might do.
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and most everything he says is not supported by facts/stats/anything measurable.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Not all of those things are wrong either
Just because you know how bad Autzen can be doesn’t mean playing at BYU can’t be worse. The sense I get is that there’s more hate in the Holy War than in any of the Pac-10 rivalries — and all that hatred is going to be directed at us as well this year, as the proxy for the whole Pac.
by The Ancient Mariner on Sep 1, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be but I feel pretty confident this team can handle it. Like I said in another thread. The players I’ve seen interviews with this year seem to have a quiet confidence and maturity that’s been missing in recent years.
I think they can too
and I don’t think Sark’s going to let them underestimate the challenge — after all, this was literally his home turf as a player, he knows the home-field advantage from the inside. I just think we as fans need to be prepared for this to be an all-out war to the knife, or else we may come away disappointed.
by The Ancient Mariner on Sep 1, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if you want to talk facts, do you have any to support the idea that Autzen is “much louder” than Edwards?
Like I said, I’m sure in general that Autzen is louder than Edwards. In this particular game though, I’m not so sure the difference will be great because of the various extenuating circumstances.
FYI
According to Hugh Millen via Bob Condotta:
Just ran into Hugh Millen, who played here with the Huskies in 1985. He told me that it’s "really loud’’ here and that in comparision to Pac-10 schools probably louder than anywhere but Oregon and UW when each is full.
I'm sure it will be loud.
It’s college football, after all.
But don’t discount the added dynamic in this game of a fan base that feels freshly insulted by the Pac-10 and getting to open their season against…a Pac-10 team.
I think this angle is a bit overblown, though. Especially given the announcement that BYU is going independent.
As far as sheer volume and home fan hostility go, BYU doesn’t hold a candle to Autzen.
Lear you must or you wouldn't have responded to it
I don’t want to get into a heated debate between the venues of Oregon and BYU- I really could careless. Someone above attempted to discredit John’s logic that BYU on saturday might not be the loudest road venue this season. I merely stepped in and mentioned that John was using the venue as an analogy of the hostile and frenzied atmosphere that might spew out of the home town crowd. Do we really have to compare the two fanbases on game day?
The point that I was trying to defend is that BYU is going to show us that they are displeased with the snubbing and the fact that we took their rival in the process. Talk about adding insult to injury…
All I saw was purple
Really, since when?
I was under the impression that official capacity was 54K. Uh, oh, you pulled a “Crazi” (making up stuff without checking your facts).
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Wow, I thought they'd expanded.
It’s at 54,000 but has held 60,000. My fault, I swore I had seen 70 when I was looking into the NW stadiums.
70,000
Husky Stadium is the ONLY stadium in the Pacific Northwest that is 70K or larger, even Qwest Field is only 66K.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I'd like to add that for special events, Qwest is able to expand to 72K
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on Sep 1, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I didn’t know that. Can they still get the full football field with 72K?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I don't know.
I’ve only ever been to Seahawks games at Qwest within the 67K capacity, but not for any special events, so I can only answer for the 67K capacity. Maybe those who have been to a special even can tell us.
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on Sep 1, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Special Events
I’d imagine this would be a concert, where they are able to use the field as additional seating.
Yeah I was wondering...
…what has he been smoking?!
Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"
Autzen is small but not Martin small
Utah and BYU both have stadiums as big if not bigger then all the Pac 10 North schools not named Washington.
All I saw was purple
once again you post without doing any research
Rice Eckles Stadium Seats 45,000 which would make it one of the smallest in the Pac 12.
Lavelle Edwards Stadium seats 64,000
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by John Berkowitz on Sep 1, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Research???
But that would be work!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Understand, but you don’t have to research to know the Univerity of Utah is like the University of Washington. Utah sits in Salt Lake City like Washington sits in Seattle. Rie Eckles could easily expand due to the proximity of the major metro and they have the fanbase near to see it filled. The other NW schools really don’t have that luxury.
I admit it was a poorly written post- but expansion of the facilities and the seating capacity will be on the rise.
All I saw was purple
I'm going to buy you a shovel for Christmas.
Just keep on digging!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
LMFAO
please, crazi, just do a little googling before posting if you are going to attempt to use fact to support an opinion. it’ll help everyone.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
But he's right.
The University of Utah isn’t similar to the typical NW schools outside of Washington.
We’re located in a regional center. Salt Lake County has one million people. The Wasatch Front near two million.
IF the speculated divisions do happen, Salt Lake City would be the second largest city in the North Division behind Seattle.
The University of Utah would have the third largest enrollment in the division (nearly tied with Colorado for 2nd).
Rice-Eccles Stadium is also going to be expanded soon enough. Plans have already been drawn up and I expect we’ll see expansion within the next ten years. If it happens, we’re looking at a stadium of probably 60,000-65,000. That would put it behind only Husky Stadium in terms of capacity.
And though I think it’s possible others could expand, they’re not as likely as Utah right now.
Course, Utah now has the largest basketball arena in the P-10. ;)
No, it doesn't
since a) as I keep telling you, there’s no such thing as the “P-10,” and b) Utah is not a member of the Pac-10. Now, once Utah is officially on board, they will have the largest orangeball arena in the conference (whatever it happens to be at that point — hurry up, CU), but that is not currently the case.
by The Ancient Mariner on Sep 1, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hello".....Jake Heaps?
“I’m Mason Foster”…!
That would be sweet!
I want to see a lot of coverage sacks if BYU tries to go vertical. Our secondary is good! And if we can lock everything up, that could wreck havoc for the young BYU QBs.
All I saw was purple
Hoping for coverage sacks is pretty close to hoping BYU's locker room gets hit by lightning.
Stick with hoping for a pass rush.
I wouldn't rule it out . . .
that is, lightning hitting their locker room
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Don't Forget Shirley...
…I bet you’ll see him in there on 3rd and long.
Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"
Not sure on that one...
Not sure if he is physically ready to play.
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by John Berkowitz on Sep 1, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard...
…there are 12 freshman, including redshirts, in the two deep. I think there may be more that play if you include special teams.
Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"
HUSKY HONK TIME
I will be over the top in one hour!!!!!! ANTICIPATION SICKNESS ON FULL FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last PAC-10 Rose Bowl winner not named USC....Washington
Off-topic: anyone been reading EDSBS?
Washington’s his crazy out-there pick for this year. Also, Sark Week
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/8/26/1652071/the-edsbs-cavalcade-of-irrational
Whats his crazy out there pick mean?
National champs?
I think he ranked them sixth in his initial blogpoll.
Not that those really mean anything at this time of the year, especially coming from Swindle.
Wait....
BYU has some scrubs at RB. JJ DiLuigi, Josh Quezeda and whoever else they want to throw out aren’t Harvey Unga. News flash, their RB’s aren’t LaMichael James, Joe McKnight, Toby Gerhart, Jacquizz Rogers, or even Nic Grigsby. They didn’t look impressive against their bad defense at their scrimmage and i don’t see how 3 unproven guys are going to be able to run on UW. I’m sorry but I can’t see it.
Spot on Jballa...love having you here
I think you can say the same thing about all their skill position players…nothing exceptional at this point.
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by John Berkowitz on Sep 1, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for the love John
and i agree with you. Nothing really exceptional at this point from their skill guys. O’Neill Chambers and McKay Jacobsen are both good, but I don’t see them winning the game for BYU. McKay Jacobsen isn’t even 5’11 and his speed is great, but he isn’t going to outrun Adam Long or Desmond Trufant. O’Neill is a baller but he is a big time talker and he hasn’t backed much up yet. Those guys against the UW Secondary is the real match-up that should be mentioned, not the below average RBC that BYU has.
I agree Jballa...
But you left out the power of the Polk? He is more than legit in my world…and I have a inkling he’s gonna be running with a more noticeable chip on his fully healed shoulders!
Hugh Millen
I was listening to the Honks and he said what you said. He also said they’ve had these same kind of unspectacular athletes for decades and they’ve managed to be very successful against just about everybody.
Washington Husky Football-"Hear the bark, feel the bite!"
They'll tell you all about the magnificent job DiLuigi did against Oklahoma...
but I’m with you. Every team in the Pac-10 has at least as good RB as BYU.
I just laid down some coin on UW straight up at +120. Should be a pretty easy payday.

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