Media Day Snippets
by John Berkowitz on Jul 30, 2010 11:44 AM PDT
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Lane Kiffin said USC currently has 71 players on scholarship instead of the normal 85. Unless USC wins its appeal of the sanctions, it will be limited to 75 players each of the next three seasons. The days of the Trojans having a stockpile of talent appear to be over.
Rick Neuheisel on the USC sanctions: "I've been asked 100 times about the sanctions at our cross-town rivals - truthfully, we can't take the time to worry about that. They had something we wanted; they were the Pac-10 champs when we got here. Now Oregon has what we want."
Cal coach Jeff Tedford said he expects a good season out of QB Kevin Riley "if he wins the job.'' Apparently the senior is still competing with Beau Sweeney for the starting job. Should be an interesting August of training camp practices.
In true Chip Kelly fashion, the Oregon head man scoffed at the poll results, mentioning last year's, which had Oregon picked third and Arizona eighth (the Wildcats wound up in a tie for second). "I learned from last year's poll that we shouldn't put much stock in it," he said, even though the poll had correctly picked the league winner each year since 1999 before the Ducks' surge last season.
What is Mike Riley's secret to success? "We don’t feel like we do more with less,’’ Oregon State head coach Mike Riley said. "We feel like we do a good job evaluating players.’’
Steve Sarkisian on the importance of a Jake Locker..."Historically in this Conference, the teams that have won Pac-10 Championships or have been in that race at the end have had veteran leadership at that position. Ultimately, if you really want to win a Pac-10 Championship, you have to find a way to win on the road. We will take the advantage of having that senior quarterback who has been in those environments."
Dennis Erickson's reaction to being picked ninth in the media poll.."It's better than 10th," Erickson said. He chuckled. "To be very honest with you, I really don't pay much attention to it," Erickson said, "because we start (practicing) here in about three days. And the proof's on the field when you play. I personally think that this will be as good a team as I've had (at ASU)."
Arizona coach Mike Stoops reaction to the assumption that the Wildcats will be challenged on defense while breaking in eight new starters this year..."We've always had a good defense and I don't see that changing,'' he said.
Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh on what the future holds...Can I say that I will be the head coach of Stanford for life? I cannot say that. If the creek don’t rise, I will be. But you never know."
The Cougars finished dead last in the media poll but it wasn't unanimous like last year so they are making progress. "It happened the last two years, and with a one-win season, of course people are going to pick us last," said defensive end Kevin Kooyman, who accompanied Wulff here. "People don't believe in us, but we believe in ourselves. That's all we care about."
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I cant figure out why we werent unanimous
I’m guessing 4 writers put USC last in protest.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 30, 2010 11:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Hey, some of us are in King County
maybe we should recount the vote until we get the “right” outcome!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I love the picture you chose
I’ve gotten a ton of mileage out of that one, too. One of my favorites in the photo tool.
You and your 5 second shorts….
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 2, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I screwed up
voted backwards on poll. Voted Sark most liked but got it wrong. Bob subtract one vote from Steve Sarkisian.
Between wulff's grimace...
… And Kelly’s man-boobs, I’ve never felt worse about two consecutive entries on this blog.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I feel like that won't be the last time the AP catches Wulff with that grimace.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, because that Rose Bowl win and #3 ranking was so awful.
Neuheisel had a hand in the decline of the program, but he’s well down the list of culprits.
NCAA santions led to 0-12 season
that’s all you need to know.
Head coach is responsible.
Don James built a legacy, Rick tore it down.
Pain don't hurt...
Don James built a legacy, Rick tore it down.
With all due respect, this is a stupid statement. Rick inherited a program trending downward – Lambo’s last season was 6-6, remember? He did no worse than tread water, though he did go to (and win) a Rose Bowl, something Lambo never did.
If you want to talk coaches that tore down DJ’s legacy, point first at Gilby and Ty.
Ditto
Rick didn’t destroy the program.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 1, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Got to agree with Rollo
Tuiasosopo is responsible for the Rose Bowl and the #3 ranking. Had Neuheisel stayed out of trouble, we would never have hired Willingham, gone 0-12, and lost 6 straight to the Ducks.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
by Lear Pilot on Jul 31, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm impressed.
The picture is actually of a Learjet and it’s a Lear 35 (which I fly).
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
WOW!
Lear could frame that! But it would look WAY better with a block “W” on the front! GO DAWGS!!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
WOW! cont...
Oh and a classy block “W” on his left chest!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Gambles On College Sports and...
…lies to more than one UW administator, not to mention more recruiting violations to boot and he’s
well down the list of culprits.?
I’ll give him credit for one thing. He was smart and smart enough to listen to Tui when he told him “we could run some option coach, we ran it in HS?” Nue listened and changed his offense. Of course it was an added incentive that Number 10 ranked and former employer Colorado was coming to Husky Stadium for a HUGE game. This was 1999 and we had lost to BYU and Air Force (at home by the way) and Nue was desperate for answers. Tui gave it to him and the rest is history. The DAWGS were SO close to going to the Rosebowl in 1999 and the Stanford contest at Husky Stadium (Tui’s 300 passing 200 rushing game) was unbelieveable! The next year was the capper and the highlight of Nue’s Washington career. Of course we know the rest of the story! GO DAWGS!!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Yes, well down the list
First off, let me make it clear – I’m not a Neuheisel fan. I didn’t like the lying, the job-hunting and the rule-breaking. I didn’t like the style of play changing from defense and strong running game to finesse (though I have to admit, it was fascinating seeing Pickett throw for 4,000+ yards in a season). I didn’t like the decline in team discipline. I didn’t like the perception that the program was losing it’s “tough guy” mentality. I think that even without the gambling issue, Neuheisel may well have found himself fired after the 2003 season (if he’d been allowed to coach it).
That said, let’s also remember this – the program Neuheisel inherited was on a slow decline. There was a reason Lambo was fired – team morale was low, he’d just barely avoid the program’s first losing season in forever, recruiting was lagging – and Neuheisel came in and did a lot of things right. He got the fan base excited. He got rid of the purple helmets. He landed the local stud (Paul Arnold). And when he realized his offense wasn’t taking full advantage of his personnel, he changed it up after 2 games and allowed Tui to operate at his best. People may say that Neuheisel won a Rose Bowl with Lambo’s players (and that’s a debatable point), but let’s remember that Lambo never won a Rose Bowl (or went to a Rose Bowl) with Lambo’s players.
No, if you’re looking for culprits, look in these directions:
- Barbara Hedges
- Todd Turner
- Keith Gilbertson
- Ty Willingham
And if you want the genesis of the problem, look no further than William Gerberding.
Neuheisel was no saint, and he’s a flawed football coach. But he still won, every season he was here, and led the program to one of the 3 best seasons the program has had in the last 40 years. Maybe the program was morphing into something we didn’t like by the time he was fired, but it wasn’t a foregone conclusion that the program had to go in the toilet. No, for that we can “thank” Keith Gilbertson, and Hedges for firing Neuheisel in June, leaving no chance to do a real coaching search.
Now, I love Gilby as an offensive line coach – he’s one of the best – and his offensive schemes were a huge part of the 1990-1991 teams and their success. But as a head coach, he flat out stunk. Yeah, he was put in a bad situation at the UW. But that 2003 team was far too talented to go 6-6. And the 2004 disaster? Lay that squarely on Gilby.
Turner compounded the error by hiring Ty as the replacement, and then thwarting the effort to fire Ty after year 3 when it was clear he was a disaster.
Bingo Kirk
You saved me quite a few paragraphs….spot on!
by John Berkowitz on Aug 1, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Why Gerberding?
For swapping Lude for Hedges? Personally, I think Hedges deserves most of the blame; the only major thing she did right was hiring Romar, and that was by accident.
by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 1, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Partly
Gerb is the genesis – he’s the guy that forced Lude into retirement and hired Hedges. Worse, he’s the one that backstabbed DJ and goaded him into resigning. Gerb was never comfortable with the attention that DJ and the football program received, feeling like the academic excellence of the school was being overshadowed.
Todd Turner and Gerb would have gotten along well…
To
that might be true ...
… but as a UW alum and a student during the Gerb era, you have to look at Gerb’s total contribution to the University not just through a football program’s perspective. When he stepped into the role, UW had a contentious relationship with Olympia and programs were being cut left and right. He stemmed that tide, built up political relationships, fund raised like a madman, recruited some Nobel Prize winners, and established the foundation for many of UW’s now most respected academic institutions and he established a strong network of private donors that, previously, was not organized or efficient.
He certainly had his faults. He was egomaniacal. He has admitted that he regrets his role DJ’s demise. Like any President, he made some poor appointments in both the athletics and academics sides. But, let’s not forget, that he was a sports fan and was pro-college athlete. He was one of the earliest proponents of a “living-wage” for football players which, when he proposed it, was an outrageous proposal.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
As a University President, there’s no doubt Gerb was a huge asset. And he didn’t start off antagonistic towards the Athletic Department. But his relationship with that department and with DJ deteriorated badly, and there’s no question the damage that was done by Gerb’s decisions to force Lude into retirment, hire Hedges and push DJ out the door with his decision to flip the ’93 penalties, which he knew would lead to DJ resigning.
Are you kidding me?
You are working on destroying your credibility. Blaming Gilby over Neuheisel?? You must be Crazy. Had Neuheisel kept his nose clean Gilby would never have been put in the situation he was. Gilby was the definition of the no win scenario.
How on earth can you say, “that 2003 team was far too talented to go 6-6” and say “Neuheisel may well have found himself fired after the 2003 season (if he’d been allowed to coach it)”? So let me get this straight, Gilby sucked so bad, and Neuheisel was so much better of a coach, that they both would have had a bad season in 2003 with the same “talented” team? I’m confused, which is it
I’ve been reading through a book called, “What it Means to Be a Husky”, every player in the late 80’s and early 90’s credit Gilby and his offense for making the UW a complete team (offense and defense). Many of them also mention that Neuheisel didn’t get, didn’t know what it means to be a Husky, and destroy the hard working atmosphere that they had built. Gilby wasn’t a good head coach, but blaming him for the mess that Neuheisel left and the uber soft team that Neuheisel left him, is flat out stupid.
I still don’t get why you and John support Slick Rick, is one good season worth all the trouble and chaos that he brought to the program????
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
We don’t support him….we just don’t hate him or blame him for everything that went wrong with Husky Football.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 1, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't blame him for everything
But as far as head coaches are concerned, he is the most responsible, followed very closely by Tyrone Willingham. Gilby and Willingham would never have been head coach if Neuheisel had stayed out of trouble.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lear, be real...
He won a Rose Bowl. That is not an easy thing to do – ask Belotti. His behavior alienated him from the fan base and his lack of emphasis in recruiting the lines was contributing to decay, but we were really on the wrong trajectory when lam Lambright was let go. Rick didn’t denotate this program. The worst you can say about him is he didn’t leave it in better – or the sam – shape that he found it in and that the circumstances of his exit really handcuffed the program.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Aug 1, 2010 4:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Culture Change
Nueheisel was directly responsible for some very important cultural change within Husky Football. I was listening to Softy interview Ben Mahdavi on KJR. He stated that under James and Lambo, the seniors absolutely ruled the football team. He pointed out that under Nueheisel that critical leadership was undermined. Some of you may remember Reggie Williams, as a “true freshman” mind you, being allowed to jump up on a table and pop off to the team about how he was the best or something to that effect. In the past the seniors would have thrown him in the lake or something. They were told absolutely hands off the underclassman. That was a huge cultural shift in Husky Football toughness that happened because of Nueheisel. My only argument with what you said Kirk is that “he’s well down the list of culprits”. I disagree with that sentiment. I’ll definitely give him credit for what he did do right and I think he provided a huge spark at the time that he came in amoung other things. But for a program not to far removed from scandal his actions really put a a bad spot light back on the program.
by doubledeucedawg on Aug 1, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not exactly what he said
So let me get this straight, Gilby sucked so bad, and Neuheisel was so much better of a coach, that they both would have had a bad season in 2003 with the same "talented" team?
No, what he was saying is that the team would have had a better record in 2003 but that Neuheisel might well have been fired anyway due to the loss of discipline, control (institutional control?), etc.
by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 1, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t deny that the culture was changing under Neuheisel, nor did I say I liked that change. However, the fact of the matter is that it was under Gilbertson that the program cratered. Yes, Gilby was put in a bad situation. However, he made the worst of it. He was a bad head coach. He was bad at Cal, he was worse here.
As I noted Gilby was a fantastic Offensive Line coach, and he’s a pretty good Offensive Coordinator – his contribution to the 1990 & 1991 teams was huge. However, that doesn’t change the fact that as a Head Coach, he sucked.
Whether or not you think the program was declining under Neuheisel (that’s debatable that it was in any worse shape than when Lambo was fired), it wasn’t inevitable that the program had to go completely in the toilet like it did under Gilby. A good coach gets a lot more out of Pickett and Reggie in 2003 and fields a better defense. A good coach either commits to a power running game to support Paus in 2004, or commits to Stanback running the spread option. A bad coach – aka Gilby – has Paus running a spread option.
Gilby was the one that went 1-10, not Neuheisel. While we may not have liked the change in the program culture that was happening under Neuheisel, the fact is that we never had a losing record with him in charge. It is beyond me how anyone could think that Neuheisel is more to blame for the program’s downfall than Gilby, or the person to put Gilby in that position (Hedges). Fact of the matter is that Gilby shouldn’t have been the head coach. Hedges should have stuck with Neuheisel through the 2003 season and then done a real coaching search in December of 2003, not can him in June of 2003 with no chance to conduct a real search as well as seriously impacting team morale. Hedges didn’t have to fire him when she did – she could have stonewalled the NCAA long enough to get through the 2003 season. Yeah, there would have been major distractions, but no worse really than what we actually had, and the damage to the program by forcing Gilby to be in charge was much worse than simply sticking it out with Neuheisel until a real coaching search could have taken place.
I get that people didn’t like Neuheisel’s personality or the change in the culture of the team under him. But get some perspective please – he was far from the worst offender when it comes to the downfall of the Husky football program.
I don't disagree about 2004.
A good coach gets a lot more out of Pickett and Reggie in 2003 and fields a better defense.
I agree with this, but I don’t agree that neuheisal was the guy to do it. Pickett was hurt virtually all season. Unless that somehow would’ve changed, it’s not a given that he would’ve done better with neuheisal. Williams had a bad attitude in 2003. Neuheisal had never shown the propensity to reign a player in.
Neuheisal also never fielded a “good” defense. Hiring Snow, but not relieving Hundley of his duties, suggests to me that neuheisal wasn’t making the right decisions regarding his defense.
The team wasn’t good in 2002, finishing 7-6 with one of the most anemic bowl performances in Husky history. It had the worst rushing attack in school history (by a whopping 25 yards a game). Only if you believe that neuheisal suddenly changed his stripes can you say it’s a given that the Dawgs would’ve been significantly better in 2003 with neuheisla than with Gilbertson. It was a broken model. Lots of people want to give rick the benefit of the doubt. I don’t, based on the four years he spent here. 2002 was the type of team he wanted (albeit with more success) and built toward. It was the same thing he did at Colorado. With a senior QB, and a dynamic receiver, I don’t think that was going to change in 2003.
I agree that neuheisal isn’t the primary villian. It started well before him. But I do think that he went the farthest in breaking the team on the field.
But I do think that he went the farthest in breaking the team on the field.
I just don’t see how anyone can justify this statement given the resulting negative impact Gilby and Ty had on the program.
Ty and Gilby were Neuheisel's fault
How do you not see that?? If Neuheisel stays out of trouble, he doesn’t get fired, Gilby is never head coach. Gilby doesn’t get fired mid season and Todd Turner doesn’t need to hire the molder of men to clean up Slick Rick’s mess. The whole Husky world would be a far different place.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
No, they weren't
Rick didn’t hire either of those guys. It was Hedges that made the call to fire Rick in June when the only realistic option to replace him was Gilby. That was a bad call – better to stick it out with Neuheisel, then fire him after the 2003 season when a real coaching search could happen.
Rick had nothing to do with Ty getting hired – that was Turner, with Emmert’s approval. There were better candidates out there.
In short, while Rick did many things to sabotage his coaching career here and changed the program culture, it was not an inevitability that the program would crater the way it did under Gilby and then stay cemented at the bottom under Ty.
Stop blaming Rick for things he had no control over, and start looking at the people that did have control.
Cause and Effect.
Rick was responsible for his own actions. His actions got him fired. Yes, it was TOTALLY inevitable that the program would crater the way it did under Gilby. The players were pissed that Rick was fired, Gilby tried to bring back hard work to the program and the players revolted. I distinctly remember reading an article where Jordan Reffett laid out there daily schedule, the entire team was full of lazy guys who’d get up at noon, go to practice, go party, then do it again the next day. Rick destroyed the foundation of the program, he got lucky, the foundation didn’t finally collapse until after he left (just like Colorado).
Stop blaming a die hard true Husky like Gilby, who had his hands tied behind his back from the start, and start blaming the guy who has destroyed every program he’s touched. Every former player from the 90’s will tell you that Neuheisel destroyed the work ethic and the very foundation of Husky football.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I'm with Lear on this one (sort of)
How can Gilby be mentioned in the first place? If I recal he was offered the “interim” name plate. To be precise, Neuheisel was all wrong for Husky football. At the time it was hard to see that, because of all the winning. But the recruiting classes were flawed. Not one of his classes produced much of anthing on either the O line or the D line and the trench play got worse and worse as each Slick season came and went. The name Dan Dicks will forever be a sore spot for me. High star O line prospect who never saw the field
But is it Rick’s fault? I think the Slick hire was bad from the beginning (looking back), but the timing of the firing couldn’t have come a worse time. Babs Hedges thought the program could stand on it’s own, she made lousy decisons pertaining to the football program time and again. Babs should’ve handled the Slick ouster better. She had a decision
1. offer the job to Keith Gilbertson (without the interim tag) so that rivaling schools couldn’t use negative recruiting tactics against him.
2. go in an intirely new direction and make a splashy hire with a new coaching staff.
Babs choce neither and it gutted the program- end of story.
All I saw was purple
His actions got him fired.
His actions did not require that he be fired when he was. That was Hedges decision.
Yes, it was TOTALLY inevitable that the program would crater the way it did under Gilby.
Not true. Not even close. You give Gilby waaaaaay too much credit as a head coach. Get a real head coach in here, and no way does that 2004 team lose 10 games.
Stop blaming a die hard true Husky like Gilby…
As I said, I fully appreciate where Gilby has been an asset to the program. But that doesn’t mean I have to be blind to his massive shortcomings as a head coach. He was awful. Yes, he was put in a bad situation, but he made it worse. The program did not have to crater the way it did under him – that’s just lazy thinking.
Stop blaming Rick for what was not under his control, start blaming those who were in control.
One name: Babs Hedges
Rick had a lot of control, but apparently he did not review the part in the NCAA manual that frowns on gambling on college athletics. In my eye Rick deserved to be fired. How clueless are you if you can’t see that gambling is a huge no-no in college athltics. He thought that produced email was his alibi. Was it fabricated? Had to have been for the school to fire his ass.
All I saw was purple
Sure, he deserved to be fired, but it didn’t have to happen when it did. A good AD would have assessed the situation and realized that it would be better to grin and bear it with Neuheisel for 2003 and then fire him then hand the program off to Gilby.
The excuse at the time for not naming Gilby as an “interim” coach was to protect recruiting. Well, the 2004 class looked good on paper, but didn’t actually turn out so great. And of course the 2005 class was a disaster.
Blame Neuheisel for putting the UW in that situation, but blame Hedges (and whichever boosters were advising her) for making the situation far worse.
"The program" is far bigger than just what happens on the field.
Neuheisal didn’t kill morale the way Gilbertson and Willingham did. He didn’t alienate boosters the same way either of those two did. He recruited better than either of those two as well.
But he took a team that, at worst, was solid defensively, and turned it into a fundamentally unsound group that either head hunted or arm tackled. He was left with an offensive line that was able to lead the conference in rushing, and by the time he left, couldn’t line up in a proper three-point stance without giving away whether the play was a run or pass. 3rd and 2 became an automatic passing down. He led the team to 74.5 rushing yards a game his last season. Players quitting during games began to start. He might – might – have been able to fix all of this if he was retained. In my opinion, he would’ve lost too many games and been fired before he ever had the chance.
Gilbertson couldn’t fix it, and things simply got worse when he attempted to install a new offense without the knowledge or the talent to run it. He pissed players and fans off. Willingham was, well, Willingham.
I’m not saying that either of those guys are better coaches than neuheisal. Far from it. And I don’t believe that neuheisal would’ve ever gone 1-10 or 0-12. But I do think he was heading south of .500 without some significant change, and I don’t believe he was capable at that time of making it. I know you do. He’s a much better coach today than he was back then. But he left Gilbertson with the roster that lacked talent and depth on both lines, and athleticism in general on defense.
I don’t disagree that the program was heading in a direction I didn’t like under Neuheisel. It’s debatable whether he was adequately addressing those issues, but also a moot point because Hedges made the stupid decision to fire him in June with only Gilby as a realistic option, which was in essence dooming the program given Gilby’s shortcomings as a head-coach and the lack of will to treat him as anything more than a glorified interim coach.
But that's what UDub offered Gilby
He wasn’t offered the heach coaching job at Washington kirkd. He was the watcher of the program, he was merely offered interim head coach.
When you are interim, how many rivaling coaches are going to use negative recruiting tactics to get your kids? Bellotti, Erikson, hell everybody was using negative recruiting tactics to get any and all kids we were interested in. Gilby had not chance to win, because he was the interim coach. He was the lamest of all lame duck coaches, more so then Ty. Willingham didn’t have the “interim” attached to his name. Ty was just flat out lazy.
All I saw was purple
…he was merely offered interim head coach.
He was never officially name an “interim” coach. If that had been the case, then why not conduct a coaching search after the 2003 season concluded?
Duh?
Remember Babs was retiring- Washington had no choice but to sit on Gilby because we were transitioning from Hedges retirement. Question: Did anyone throw her a retirement party :)
All I saw was purple
She wasn’t retiring yet when she made the decision to fire Neuheisel. That firestorm didn’t surface until later – the “Dr. Feelgood” scandal didn’t emerge until October of that year. For all anyone knew, Hedges was going to remain the AD for the foreseeable future.
What if the softball scandal hadn’t happened and Hedges was able to stick around until Emmert was hired – I have to think that Todd Turner never would have been the guy that Emmert would have targeted had the search not already been done when he arrived…
Bingo
Todd Turner was Interim President Lee Huntsman’s pick that was rubber stamped by Emmert.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 2, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares about Turner?
The program was destroyed before Turner stepped foot on Montlake, are you kidding?
The year we went 1-11 the demolition was complete. Turner wasn’t here yet. Rick was fired in the offseason and Gilby went 1-11. During that time frame Babs ubruptly retired, where some thought it was a hasty move or that the pressure was mounting as the program was sinking head first into the abyss.
Turner was a failure at UW simply because he could not revive the demolished program. To think Turner is at fault is simply not accurate. Turner is guilty of one thing- hiring a philosophical coach in Ty that didn’t have the desire to see it become a reality. Turner made a bad hire that kept the program on life support.
All I saw was purple
wrong wrong wrong
Man, do you ever bother researching anything?
Rick was fired in the off-season of 2003; Gilby’s first season, he went 6-6. At the end of that season is when Hedges “retired”. Turner was hired before the start of the 2004 season when Gilby went 1-10. Turner was the guy that made it clear to Gilby that he wasn’t going to get an extension, and then they negotiated his resignation.
You seriously downplay what a disastrous hire Ty was. That 2004 season was really bad, but at the time it was an aberration. Hire the right coach and that’s how it would have remained, but Turner compounded the problem by hiring Ty who cemented the UW’s place at the bottom of the BCS pool.
Not only did Turner hire Ty, he also never “got” the UW football culture as he constantly proved by putting his foot in his mouth (using Oregon and Kentucky as measuring sticks among other things). And worst of all, when it came time to fire Ty at the end of his 3rd year, Turner sabotaged it and made it possible for Ty to return for his 4th season, the humility of which we Husky fans will never live down.
Seriously crazi, you know a thing or two about football but your penchant for rambling on without checking any facts really undermines your credibility.
The only thing wrong
Was my timeline. And seeing that now, I can see how bad a move it was to hire Willingham. But at the time did it seem like a bad hire? I think the majority welcomed Ty Willingham when he was introduced as head coach. But none of us could imagine how brutally ugly all this would play out in the end. As it turned out Ty was the worst possible hire for Washington. We didn’t see it in the beginning.
I won’t check facts. To me this is water cooler chatter. That’s why I don’t mind losing arguments.
All I saw was purple
Ty
I didn’t like the Ty hire one bit when it happened, and said so many times on the DM.com boards. I wasn’t the only one. We saw his mediocrity at Notre Dame and heard all the complaints ND fans had about his recruiting (or lack thereof) and his dedication to golf rather than coaching.
That said, I don’t think any of us expected Ty to be as bad as he turned out to be. I expected mediocrity, not flat out awfulness.
I agree. Terrible hire from the get-go.
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I was at the basketball game when he was introduced. His “the dog, as I know it, is a viscious animal” speach absolutely killed it for me.
Ty's public speaking
I cringed every time I heard Ty speak, and I always scratched my head when I heard people say how intelligent and well-spoken they thought he was. To me, he came across as clueless, someone trying to sound a lot smarter than they are.
That’s probably not fair, but he really rubbed me the wrong way with his public speaking. And the fact he quickly devolved into such an ass in public didn’t help.
I heard him talk himself into circles...
…at a couple of Tyee events. I remember one at a winery in Woodinville…Romar was great. He got people pumped up. Even Daugherty got people excited. After Ty finished talking, it took a second for people to realize he was actually done. There was a pregnant pause, and then a nice round of golf clap applause.
Absolutely pathetic. I cringed every time I heard him speak.
Oh, and...
The only thing wrong was my timeline.
Seeing as how the timeline was the entire gist of your post, that would seem to be a critical thing to be wrong about.
If we are messing with timelines . . .
then we can say the Huskies just won the National Championship a few years ago, right? Oregon hasn’t owned us recently, and that whole Willingham thing was decades ago!
Yep, timelines don’t matter at all!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Not officially no but...
No one was offering Gibly a longer contract. And when your contract runs out after one season, everybody knows you are unofficially the interim head coach. It didn’t need to be official anything. Gilby was retained as the watcher of the program and that really had a HUGE effect how how poorly we recruited and how effective rivaling schools were able to recruit against us.
Also lets take into consideration how Gilby felt in that position. Surely Keith was worried about his job security. No one was offering him a longer contract. At some point don’t you think the not knowing could effect your duties as head coach?
Now I am not lobbying nor was I lobbying for the UW to offer Keith a longer contract. Keith was put in a very awkward position. But for the love of the school and a chance to have his dream job come true- he stayed on without a head coaches contract. Looking back Keith should’ve walked the moment Rick was fired- it became detremental to his coaching career, a career killer in the end.
Stuff like this happens in transiton all the time, especially when ADs and presidents are nearing retirement. We had no vision at the top and a starving fanbase was begging for championships. The pressure mounted and it bottomed out during a critical time when schools were in the midst of an arms race. We lost the arms race and had no leadership at the top. Hedges was the key cog in the destruction of the jewel of the Pacific NW. Rick is not at fault for the destruction- he was a tool that created a mess regarding our treadtion and values. Keith was not at fault, the man did everything in his power to keep something intact. Ty is not at fault either. He was brought in to clean up a renegade program that was spawned during the successful yet dubious Slick era. Hedges made the hires and the decisions. Therefore the blame lies with her.
All I saw was purple
Husky Stadium
Can we please get some info on Husky Stadium?! The committee probably has to confer with all the attorneys etc. Sheesh!!!!!!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Wulff's Comments Remembered
Anyone remember these unoriginal gems, “DAWGS bark and bite but Cougar’s hunt and kill!” and the palouse zinger, “I hate PURPLE!” LOL!! GO DAWGS!!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
And you expect any different
I like the UW and WSU coaches embracing the rivalry.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 9:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I expect a coach to back it up
And from what I’ve seen Wulff can’t come thru. I think that is why the comment is remembered.
All I saw was purple
Knew that comment was coming...
And it was about as cheesey as the Wulff hunt and kill coment. Keep living on that 0-12 victory because the future looks bleek as a coug fan.
All I saw was purple
Mine grew a whole quarter inch this offseason
Sigh.
by Brian Floyd on Aug 2, 2010 12:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Whats changed?
They went from a unaminous preseason last place finish to 39 total votes to finish in last place. Things are definitely on the way up in Cougartown- YIKES!
That reminds me of the movie Little Giants- “HEY… WE GAINED A YARD!”
All I saw was purple
How do you figure?
In my mind, you guys are going backwards.
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I don’t think WSU is going backwards at this point. I think they will be a much better football team in 2010. Not good enough to go to a bowl but good enough where you can say they are making progress.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 3, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying we're making leaps and bounds, either
But we were at the bottom of the bottom and there is actually hope. The recruits are good — with the caveat that it’s by WSU standards — but we still haven’t seen it on the field.
I give you maybe 3 total wins
And that would be a major accomplishment
All I saw was purple
3 wins
If the Cougs win 3 games, they should jump for joy. It would mean real progress.
It’s possible I guess – with the latest injuries on the OL for ASU, it’s easy to think they will remain a bottom-feeder, so the Cougs could steal a win there. Montana State is a gimmie. Maybe the Cougs can steal another game somewhere on the schedule – SMU? UCLA? Arizona?
I won’t even entertain the possibility they could win the Apple Cup…
;)
Considering where the Cougs are coming from, I disagree slightly. I don’t think a WSU rebuild is something that can be accomplished in a few years – I think it takes 5 years.
Now, that’s not to excuse just how bad they’ve been under Wulff. He’s on a hot seat for a reason. Yeah, he may have inherited a bad situation from Doba, but I don’t see a lot of evidence he’s made the most of what he had.
If Wulff is going to be the guy at WSU, he needs to show some progress in the win column this year, and I think 3 wins would be enough to keep him around for another year and see if his recruiting really is as good as Coug fans are proclaiming.
I mostly agree with you.
But substitute “Willingham” for “Wulff” and “Gilbertson” for “Doba,” and I swear I read this post 50 times on dawgman.com between 2005 and 2007.
Mike Price at WSU
1989 Washington State 6–5 3–5 8th
1990 Washington State 3–8 2–6 9th
1991 Washington State 4–7 3–5 T–6th
1992 Washington State 9–3 5–3 T–3rd W Copper 17 15
1993 Washington State 5–6 3–5 7th
1989 Washington State 6–5 3–5 8th
1990 Washington State 3–8 2–6 9th
1991 Washington State 4–7 3–5 T–6th
1992 Washington State 9–3 5–3 T–3rd W Copper 17 15
1993 Washington State 5–6 3–5 7th
1994 Washington State 8–4 5–3 4th W Alamo 19 21
1995 Washington State 3–8 2–6 T–8th
1996 Washington State 5–6 3–5 T–8th
1997 Washington State 10–2 7–1 T–1st L Rose 9 9
1998 Washington State 3–8 0–8 10th
1999 Washington State 3–9 1–7 10th
2000 Washington State 4–7 2–6 T–8th
2001 Washington State 10–2 6–2 T–2nd W Sun 11 10
2002 Washington State 10–3 7–1 T–1st L Rose † 10 10
by John Berkowitz on Aug 4, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Stuff
The way WSU fans talk about Price you’d think he never had a losing season, yet he never had back to back winning season until 2001/2002. For one of the “greatest” coaches in WSU history, his record wasn’t that great.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
For WSU it is Great
WSU competes seriously for a title about twice a decade since 1989….not bad when you consider that they are so isolated.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 4, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Wazzu has practically nothing going for them. Crappy town in the middle of nowhere. Facilities are nothing great. Small stadium. Not much tradition.
The simple fact that they ever compete amazes me.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Pullman is so remote, they send me to airlift patients back to Seattle, no joke.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
With all due respect
Willingham won that game for WSU, not Wulff.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Willingham takes the cake.
Any coach that tells his football players to play without emotion, is a fool, and should expect to lose a lot of games.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
To a team...
…whose star QB was injured and whose lame duck coach didn’t care! But don’t forget the wooluf BARELY pulled that one out IN Pullman. Hey and don’t forget the 30-0 shut out we blasted you guys with last Apple Cup! GO DAWGS!!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
You blew out a travel squad of less than 50 without a QB at Husky Stadium
One that had little talent to begin with. Bravo!
A win is a win..
but beating WSU last year was no big deal…they were DOA…beating Cal the next week on the other hand was impressive.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 3, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That Cal Win...
…was huge but I still think the blowout of you guys was the catalyst.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Apple Cup
I agree that those were bigger wins, but I think his point was that UW was in a funk leading up to the Apple Cup. Four straight losses: heart-breaker loss to ASU in the last seconds, beat-down at home to Oregon, another blown opportunity in losing to UCLA and another beat-down at the hands of OSU.
Blanking WSU brought back the confidence of the team that they could play well, and I think it was a necessary springboard to playing as well as they did against Cal.
I will say this
purely as animals, they don’t get much scarier than cougars. We had one (or two, perhaps) in my neighborhood in Colorado . . .
by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 1, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
He should have said . . .
Yes, but as football players . . . .
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Funniest line of the night award goes to...
A coug is a coug like a beav is a beav … all just a bunch of p*ssies
Gekko has made my night!!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
You are correct
But the other 90 out of 100 years does back up his statement. =)
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
This is the perfect comeback for a fan of a program that has had recent success. Enjoy the moment Arby…
All I saw was purple
I understand
We don’t get too many Beavs fans on here. Knowing that Beavs don’t frequent us that often it would seem to be a harmless statement. But absolutely correct in regards to the cougs :)
All I saw was purple
It’s hard to get too upset at Beaver fans talking smack – Riley is a great coach that’s also extremely likable, and the nearly 3 decades of futility Beaver fans had to endure before Riley arrived give them some right to enjoy their current success.
That said, enjoy it now because the UW will soon retake their perch atop the NW.
Beavers
I like the Beavers…always have!
by John Berkowitz on Aug 2, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Leather helmets and all . . .
yep, back in the good ol’ days!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Good Idea Gekko!...
…“pussy kitties” should be the new moniker for the cougs…meow
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
At the time I thought it was a very juvenile comment for a coach to make
And so far Wulff hasn’t done anything to back up those comments.
All I saw was purple
Me Too!
And that’s exactly why I want to keep reminding everyone about it. Not that anyone would ever forget a boneheaded comment like that! Have you ever heard a Husky coach say something as dumb as that!…OK…well…let me clarify that statement…in relation to the cougs! LOL!
Adre Dessaussure had a classic statement but that doesn’t count, he was an athlete.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Rodney Dangerfield
“I tell ya I just can’t get any respect!” The Pac-10 is the Rodney Dangerfield of “Big Time” college football.
(if the first tier is to be understood as the Big 12, SEC and Big 10).
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Yeah, I caught that, too
Honestly, I don’t see how you can put the Big 12 a tier above the Pac-10 . . .
by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 1, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t vote for Sarkisian! Do I get a gold star?
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 5:24 PM PDT reply actions
Yes...
But if you voted Slick Rick you will get 2!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
I’m sure Bruins Nation will give me lots of stars for voting for my choice.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Meant to reply below...
but it’s Sunday and i’m slow
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
LOL...
Ah yes, the Kiffin vote would get you your own star in Hollywood!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
I’m confused now. I voted for Mike Riley. They hate him too, right?
Well, not really.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
is it really possible to hate Mike Riley?
… I’m going to give Kiffin a full season to puke all over himself before I call him the “most hated”. and Slick Rick is just to darn likable. Chip Kelly would win if the vote was for the ugliest … and Stoops has that good family name. Wulff is so incompetent that it is almost cute, Harbaugh is a bad ass and Tedford is, well, Tedford. thus, my vote goes to Dennis Erickson.
Really.
Not close.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
HOW!!!!!
Dennis Erickson can’t be the vote, he has too many NW ties! If anything Harbaugh for the simple fact that he would never be allowed in that school if he wasn’t the HC!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
Sarcasm. I voted for Kiffin.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I got it...
That was my reasoning to Gekko… In no way can you vote for Dennis!!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
Whoops..
I should just stop typing and go to bed!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
yes .. I vote for Dennis
… I don’t care about NW connections. He has no loyalty and he is the walking definition of self-absorption. There isn’t really anything likable about him.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
If it is, it totally explains how Luke Bellotti got on scholarship.
I know, I know, Afalava, Bus Stops, etc. I just had to get the jab in there, Shufelt.
I’m surprised that anyone voted for Mike Riley. The guy isn’t inflammatory or polarizing in anyway, hence his reputation as a boring, “vanilla” kind of guy.
That would be Oregon fans for you.
No logic whatsoever.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Because one person voted for him, that makes us not have logic?
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 2, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
and the 42 who voted for Sarkisian.
Anybody that votes for Sark over Kiffin, has their head up their ass.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Not completely true Lear
I’m sure their are many Husky fans still ticked off about the Beavs excessive defensive tactics, i.e. speering helmet to helmet contact with Locker that put him in a neck brace. Is their a correlation between the way the Beavs play cheap shot defense and Riley? You know what they say “no such thing as bad student … just bad teacher”
However I didn’t vote for Riley as most hated coach. My vote went to the smug, arrogant, man boobed Chip Kelly.
All I saw was purple
There is no way . . .
Sark or Riley should get votes in this poll when you have scum bags like Kiffin and Neuheisel. And if you recall, I’m not a Riley fan, nice guy and good enough coach, but I never have and never will want him to coach the UW. Riley is perfect in Corvallis, Seattle . . .not so much.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Scum bags
How did I forget to mention Kelly?? Shame on me!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I can’t argue if you’d have called him “callous” or “arogant”, or anything to that effect, but how’s he a scumbag?
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 2, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see how anyone can call Kelly a scumbag. I think he did pretty good last year and most of the off season problems were inherited.
by John Berkowitz on Aug 2, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. It’s not like I’m too blind to see that he’s a guy that….doesn’t put up with BS. Which leads him into being rather callous and sometimes boorish, however, I don’t see him getting into trouble with the NCAA or doing “scumbaggy” things.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 2, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. UO has been aggressive recruiting risky kids. It makes management more ...
…challlenging. But it has high upside if most kids stay on the right side of things
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Inherited?
I can’t recall the last time Mike Bellotti had a lot of issues regarding headlines of major role players getting in trouble with the law.
Kelly has had a major influence on this team since his arrival as offensive coordinator. He’s seen stuff, heard stuff, and has said stuff. He’s known about the culture longer then his tenure as head coach. The problem is that he did not have the experience to handle it. On the field Kelly makes all the calls. Off the field Kelly should be making all the calls. You can’t follow your players around campus and off campus, but if you can whisper a play into someone’s ear, you should also be able to communitcate to your players was is acceptible behavior and what behavior will either get you booted from the team or suspended. In the end Kelly has been a little grey on team rules and discipline.
Kelly is no scumbag- not yet anyway. I find him arrogant, cocky, and smug and I can’t stomach to hear him being interviewed, sort of reminds me of a young Neuheisel. What is Kelly? He’s a young coach trying to succeed. He has a firm handle on everything on the field, but has had some difficulties off the field.
All I saw was purple
I may be proclaiming this too early, but I think the lack of any incidents since March is telling me that the players have gotten the message.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
What about Masoli Part Deux?
You don’t really believe that weed didn’t belong to either Masoli or Thomas, do you?
I don’t know who it belonged to. I failed to think about that incident, sorry about that omission. Not that it matters anymore, since Masoli is a former Duck.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh, it wasn’t his weed.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know who it belonged to.
Uh, it wasn’t his weed.
Which is it?
I don’t know anything about Thomas. But it was stupid to be driving around in a car with weed in the glovebox, and it was stupid to “like” Holland’s facebook tirade.
Well, criminally speaking, it belonged to Masoli.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Because he wasn’t charged with possession. It was never suggested to be his by law enforcement, and that’s really all that matters.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You know as well as I do that this doesn’t really prove anything. Masoli could have copped to the pot possession to cover for Thomas – Masoli knew he was already on the outs, so taking that hit was far less of an issue than it would’ve been for Thomas.
That is complete speculation.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I got a great laugh over at ATQ the other day . . .
there was an entire thread going about how Masoli is always in the wrong place at the wrong time and is innocent of everything he has been accused or convicted of. Poor guy never did anything wrong, just always in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s pretty funny what Oregon fans can rationalize.
I call BS.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I completely denounce what Masoli did. He shouldn’t have been an idiot and stole laptops (prank or not). He shouldn’t have put himself in a situation where there was weed in his car. Unacceptable. Was it bad luck that he was caught? Yes. Does that make it right? Absolutely not.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad to hear that.
I was shocked how many Oregon fans were buying into Masoli’s new image campaign and believed his tales of just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Right. I really don’t think that he is a bad person. But as I’m sure you know, people get caught up in their persona and start believing that the law is below them and that they are invincible. It happens to countless star athletes. Pacman Jones, Ben Roethlisberger, the numerous steroid-using baseball players…the list goes on and on. While I don’t think that he’s a bad person and that his life is ruined, he certainly screwed up enough to merit being kicked out of the program.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 4, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, Gekko. Give me proof that it was Thomas’s.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 5, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He's Oregon's football coach.
What other qualifications do you need?? =)
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
i knew that my man-boobs comment would have legs
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Aug 2, 2010 10:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Off topic..
Am i the only one who completely hates the new logo? This is what it reminds me of:
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
Your's is a badge, our new logo is a shield
And who cares about the league logo? I like it because it seems in connection with the NFL shield and the NFL logo is second to none.
All I saw was purple
Dennis Erickson
I voted for Dennis. I can’t stand that guy. Secondary to the Huskies, I am an Idaho Vandal fan. (live close, and had some family attend there). Erickson really screwed the Vandals. He came in, recruited a bunch of thug JC guys then signed a huge contract extension, then bolted after one season. He took the first offer that came his way, and he did it literally days after pledging his allegiance to the Vandals. The guy is s scumbag.
Why hate?
If Erirkson doesn’t jet off for ASU then you are stuck with a tired old workhorse that is getting by on reputation. You should be glad Dennis left, because what are the chances that you get Rob Akey, the most successful Idaho coach in probably 15 to 20 years.
Suggestion: get over the Dennis hatred. He is what he is and if a school hires him, then surely in the back of your mind you have to realize this guy is not unpacking the U-haul.
All I saw was purple
Denny ditched OSU and I've forgiven him.
Luckily we landed on our feet, and, to a degree, I’d say the Vandals have as well. Akey seems to fit. If he can create enough buzz to get funding to get you guys out of the awful Kibby Dome/airplane hangar then Idaho football could get something going. If Boise CC can do it, I say Idaho should be able to as well.
I bet if we were voting for PAC 10 Coach Who Would Be The Most Fun at a Party Erickson would be numero uno.
Boise has gone blue and orange
The entire area is all about the Broncs- I have family there. BSU is running a smooth campaign for funding. The state has never had a major sports anything. So the locals have ponied up to keep the Bronco thing going. The single biggest thing to hit that state athletically is this BSU program. Its the Gonzaga of college football and I don’t think it’s going to slip back to medocracy anytime soon.
Idaho can’t compete with that. Their fanbase is stretched from Seattle, Portland, to Boise. That’s a lot of miles to put on for a Vandy game. Akey would be better served putting together another great season and take a job elsewhere. At this point I doubt Akey would consider WSU a better job. Plus with his charisma he could do much better then the Cougs.
All I saw was purple
Well What Else...
…would you expect? EVERYONE likes and supports a winner! It’s like the proverbial “snowball effect”.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Boise is in a bit of a better...
…situation than Idaho. Boise vs Moscow. Winning vs…well they’re doing better but still. A lot more hurdles for the Vandals to jump.
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