Locker picks Beavers
by John Berkowitz on Jul 28, 2010 8:15 PM PDT
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Jake thinks the Beavers are the team to beat in the conference this year. Duck fans aren't happy with the perceived disrespect. I think this article is damn funny and a must read.
On Tuesday, in front of ESPN cameras, the superstar quarterback of the Washington Huskies declared that it was the Oregon State Beavers - not the Ducks - that will be the team to beat in the Pac-10 conference race this year. And just as easy as it was for those words to tumble out of his mouth, Oregon fans from all over the place found themselves in instant uproar.
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That was a fun read!
He has a lot of good points:
Oregon fans are not as thick-skinned as we thought.
Lear’s thought – Who ever said Duck fans had thick skin?? We make jokes about USC’s coach, UCLA’s coach, WSU’s coach and Oregon’s coach, yet it’s only the Oregon fans that get their feelings hurt and cry foul.
College football season has begun. No, not officially, but for fans, the mayhem has started. Do you know how I know it has begun? Because the hell bent, troll headed, irrational, mudslinger fans have come out – in droves – or, in this case, flocks
Lear’s thought – Yep, this guy sure knows Oregon fans, shoot, he sounds like an expert on Oregon fans.
Can you hear that?? Sounds like a flock of birds . . . . . it’s getting louder . . . . . yep, here come the trolls!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Heh, the irony in this comment is hilarious.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
They Love...
…to stir thing up. It’s journalism today.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
I might be wrong ...
… but I don’t believe Duck fans are really going to care who Locker thinks is the team to beat in the Pac 10.
Along those lines, I’d be shocked if I heard any Duck player or coach come out and say that he is wrong or that UO deserves to be viewed as the team to beat. If that is the case, then that would be complicit agreement.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You're about right on that one.
And just as easy as it was for those words to tumble out of his mouth, Oregon fans from all over the place found themselves in instant uproar.
Wait, who did what now?
My yoke is heavy.
We still don't know much about our QB.
As a Duck fan, I find it impossible to make the case that UO is the consensus team to beat in the conference. I’d say both Oregon teams share the same problem in not knowing much about their QBs yet, but I think most realistic people would argue the Ducks have more talent outside of that position.
We don’t know enough about Costa or Thomas to assume that they won’t go Brady Leaf on us. If they struggle and OSU gets good production from that spot, I wouldn’t have a hard time making them the favorite along with USC.
This article is still pointless though. You can find that reaction anywhere. If you guys want a few laughs, go take a look at the comment section of an ESPN baseball box score. Even for an article that mundane, you will find about a thousand comments and half of the time people go so far as to make racist remarks.
by netminder82 on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
It’s extremely poor journalism on the original journalist’s part to use a very glaring example of sensationalist and [citation needed] press that is so very common these days. It’s an abject logical fallacy that probably should have a Latin term attached to it for easy access.
My yoke is heavy.
So true.
And the worst part is that this was written by the editor. As an editor, you should be able to discern not only what is and is not newsworthy, but also what passes for reasonable journalism. I don’t exactly find it earth-shattering to discover that people posting on Oregonlive.com make a bunch of stupid remarks. I’d file this alongside the columns that remind us sports are “just a game” after a tragedy has occurred. Talk about low hanging fruit…
Hey Lear, if you count Cougfan as an honorary Duck fan given his participation at ATQ, then it looks like we’ve only got 95 to go!
by netminder82 on Jul 29, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really journalism at all
What it really is is a bit of online provocation. Which, if that’s the way he wants to go, whatever. Tell truth, Locker’s words may wind up on a bulletin board in Eugene this fall, but I can’t imagine they’ll be anything like the biggest thing to get the Ducks up for UW, or for OSU, or for anyone else. After all, I don’t imagine the Ducks were taking the Beavers lightly anyway.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 29, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
That's code for:
I have “Crazi” syndrome, meaning if I use really big words people will think I’m smarter than I am.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Dude?
I hardly ever use big words. But I do like a colorful word now and then.
All I saw was purple
I agree, completely.
I was trying to soften the blow of calling out our resident Oregon high schooler for trying to use big words to sound intelligent.
Crazi – My apologies.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Everyone is welcome here as long as the debate is civil.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 30, 2010 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions
It was written by a Beav. I think it is amusing but I think the ATQ guys won’t really care that much.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 29, 2010 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You are absolutely correct sir
Honestly I just laughed when I heard the comment. With that said…..OSU’s QB has even less experience than Oregon’s and Riley’s system is pretty hard for QB’s to handle their first year.
Coaches and players
I wouldn’t expect the coaches or players to care or to comment, that would just fuel the flame. The fans on the other hand . . . . .well, let me put it this way, I’ll bet you this thread easily hits 100 comments once our Oregon “friends” show up.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I’ll bet you this thread easily hits 100 comments once our Oregon "friends" show up
24 comments, 24 new
oops.
ATQ's #1 HRD Fan
Addicted to Quack
34 and counting...
But I think John is trying to burry this quickly so we don’t turn this into a duck fan vs. Husky shouting match.
All I saw was purple
40 comments and growing . . .
Trust me, I’m doing everybody a favor and not “helping” this thread hit 100 to quickly. All it would take is one little duck joke and the world will come to an end!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
There have been 4 duck fans (including myself) comment on here. Trust me it’s not because you haven’t made Duck jokes, it’s because we couldn’t care less what Jake Locker thinks.
I’ll echo what John said:
I think it is amusing but I think the ATQ guys won’t really care that much.
ATQ's #1 HRD Fan
Addicted to Quack
If it wasn't for . . .
Oregon fans are not as thick-skinned as we thought.
Then this thread wouldn’t exist, and it wouldn’t be nearly this much fun giving Duck fans a hard time.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lear, you're trolling
Plain and simple. You sitting around making comments while screaming “DONT COME HERE OREGON TROLLS” is trolling. You’re setting a line in the water and trying to bait other people.
If you really don’t want it to happen, don’t do it.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Not only are you calling the kettle black
But you’re trying to get the kettle to come inside. Trolling is trolling, regardless of where you are. If you want to needlessly provoke people, then don’t be shocked if you get a reaction.
I think Lear is conducting an experiment
To see if in fact he is correct. By the way you started counting and when you did that, it opened up an entirely different thread. I’m curious myself just for curiostiy sake.
I’m cool, I like a good civil argument as you can tell, but I never troll.
All I saw was purple
News Flash
This is still a Husky Blog. It’s called reverse psychology, I was hoping they stay away to “prove” me wrong.
If you don’t like Oregon or Wazzu jokes, you are in the wrong place.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I promise this is the last time I'll bring this up...
Using the “Husky blog” defense is pretty weak. I think I’m a decent example of why your comments frustrate people. I grew up in Washington, got my undergrad at UO, and if things go well, I’ll be a graduate student at UW. I have interest in both teams, even though I’ll always root for the Ducks. I read this blog because it is interesting and, as a guy living in Seattle who will hopefully be a UW student in a year, I want to keep up with the Huskies as well. I will continue to be a consumer of UW and UO sports news for the rest of my life, and it is refreshing when I can find somewhere to read about it and not slump down into my chair and think “Christ, not this guy and his stupid shtick again.”
Your incessant generalities about Duck fans is idiotic and hypocritical. Maybe everything you spew is a total joke, but the way you say it makes you sound like the kind of guy who actually buys into the nonsense of a certain fanbase fitting into your nice little mold. You don’t make funny jokes, you make frustrating remarks. You’re lucky that you have a blog of your team to hide behind, because it is a place where you can froth at the mouth like and be less likely to get called out on it because of an allegiance with those around you.
Trying to call someone out for “using big words to sound intelligent” is such a joke. You aren’t funny, and you aren’t even close to on point with a majority of your remarks. Stop pointing the finger at “trolls” when you yourself are the definition of a troll. While there are plenty of people on here that might disagree with what I am saying, I guarantee there are just as many Husky fans that get sick of reading your comments about other school’s fans. We get it, you don’t like Duck fans. MOVE ON.
by netminder82 on Jul 29, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There are all types on here netminder
Sorry to hear that some of the stuff Lear says infuriates you to a point that you have to single him out like you have been. I on the other hand find that to be just as insulting as a troller trying to stire up trouble. It’s a double edged sword if you ask me.
With all different types on here, I think it should be your responsiblity to scroll up or down, you don’t have to read it much less agree with it. Lear has been on here for a long time. He’s a little mouthy as some of the rest of us. But I asure you it’s harmless. Lear and I have a lengthy history of going after each other. Very seldom do we agree on anything. Yet we’ve grown to respect each other. I get him and he gets me and we’re cool that way. Note: Lear isn’t the only fella on here that hates the ducks, there are many others.
My recommendation: learn to weed thru stuff you don’t agree with. I think you’ll find stuff on other sports blogs where bloggers act like Lear or myself for that matter. Every college team has a rival and I’m sure you’d see the exact same stuff elsewhere.
I understand you are trying to be diplomatic with an affiliation to both schools. The problem though is many Husky fans don’t have the same connection that you have. Is it possible for Lear to tone it down, not sure you’d have to ask him.
All I saw was purple
Hhmmm, I should I respond . . . . .
First – I don’t come over to ATQ and make Duck jokes, I do it here because Oregon is our RIVAL, it should be expected. I don’t expect Texas fans to like Bob Stoops, and I don’t expect Duck fans to like Sark.
Second – If opposing fans see me as a troll, then I must be doing something right. If Husky fans start complaining about my Duck jokes, then I’ll reconsider my writing style.
Third – qrsouther and I have a bit of a history, the gloves came off back around Curtis Williams. The gloves will remain off until he apologizes to the UW Dawg Pound readership for his lack of respect to a Husky player who died because of on field injuries. Speaking of which, I read the comments about CW over at ATQ, it was beyond appauling, so thank your fellow Duck fans for my hatred of all things Oregon football.
Fourth – If you don’t like reading peoples comments, don’t. I never read comments on newspaper articles, newspaper blogs or anything similar. I comment here because I like the interaction with intelligent Husky fans, personally I think most opposing fans are trolls and ruin it for the the few who do add intelligent conversation.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Meant: Hhmm, how should I respond . . .
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I understand the CW sensitivity.
I didn’t want to respond, but when you bring up someone who died it at least deserves that I address what qrsouther said.
I can’t defend or condone qrsouther bringing Curtis Williams into that discussion. While I tend to disagree with that this concept that you can’t bring up the shortcomings of the deceased, I will grant you the fact if you can find a better example, it shows maturity to do so. As a kid growing up after my dad died I might have subscribed to that mentality, but it’s not like I could not enter him into a discussion at this point in my life and keep a cool head about it. I think qrsouther got misrepresented, but it’s not like anyone should be shocked when you get some people riled up after you bring up a name like Williams into the middle of that discussion.
I don’t think the subsequent discussion at ATQ was appalling, but then again, death is always an emotional issue. I’m also able to understand that qrsouther felt angry in that he was portrayed as the guy who picked on a dead guy. Would you not agree that painting someone as a slanderer of the dead is a seriously heavy label to throw around?
Lastly, the word “hatred” is just a bit overboard in my book. Maybe you mean it in the sense of “Damn, I hate those guys!” rather than “I sincerely hate Duck fans.” The latter point of view seems, to me at least, to be the kind of thinking that leads to fights in the stands and beer bottles tossed at heads during tailgates. You can’t seriously “hate” Oregon football unless you are in serious need of an evaluation of the emotion you put into sports. I’ve played and watched sports all of my life, and could never say with a straight face that I hate an opposing fanbase.
I wanted to make the point that you were decrying the response of Duck fans to your comments yet you were clearly justifying it in the things you said. To be fair, I think there are plenty of Duck fans who could use a little Husky response jammed down their hole on occasion at ATQ. I hope you don’t think that the majority of us are so brazen about this rivalry that we would intentionally speak ill of the dead to get you or anyone else on this blog mad. That’s the kind of BS nobody should stand for, and they should have just let it go at “I think -— overreacted, but time to drop it.” I’m not going to apologize for something that guy said, but I genuinely understand your anger if that’s your opinion of him or the others at ATQ.
Good luck this season, and please don’t ghost ride your jet into my house.
by netminder82 on Jul 30, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Dr. Phil!
You are correct, I don’t hate Duck fans, I just strongly dislike them. I’m all for verbal banter, but can’t stand fans that get out of control in stadiums, such as the examples you listed.
I do have to disagree about the ATQ thread, it was beyond appalling, if it wasn’t 3 am, I’d dig up my old post quoting a few of them.
P.S. – I would never “ghost ride” my jet into your house, but I have been known to buzz a house or two! :-)
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Your "using big words to make himself look smart" line disturbs me greatly.
Language is a gift. The length of a word does not affect or dictate its worth. If a word is apropos, there is no reason not to use it. It disturbs me (though does not surprise me) that you’d take such a philistine stance against me.
My yoke is heavy.
Philistine stance -
Great for working the glutes, but burns if you hold it too long.
Wow . . .
you keep going on ’educated" rants like that and people might forget you are still in high school. Oh . . . . wait . . . . your picture still gives it away.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Who cares if he's still in high school
He brings intelligent conversation and is very level-headed. Calling him out is ridiculous.
Since when?
Since when has he brought intelligent conversation or been level headed? See the CW comments for proof.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
50 and counting (half way home Lear)
Not that I give a [Bleep]
All I saw was purple
I appreciate the support!
I’ll have to cut back on my Crazi jokes! Plus, picking on Oregon fans is much more fun.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I saw the show on ESPN where Locker made the statement about OSU – one of the other QBs also mentioned OSU as a team to beat (can not remember which one). In same segment Locker also mentioned toughest place to play and favorite he said Oregon (could not name own stadium) Foley and Luck named UW commented how loud it was and how ground shook.
I don't see anything wrong with Jake's comment
Let’s look at both programs coming into the season. Riley is a brick! He’s sturdy and tough, and he coaches his kids that way. Riley has his team ripe to take home the big prize. Hell they’ve been right in the thick of things for the last few years- not too difficult to see it.
Oregon was sturdy with Mike Bellotti at the helm. But I haven’t really seen that consistently from Kelly yet. Their seems to be cracks in the foundation under Kelly, duck fans will argue, but every onlooker not wearing an awful shade of green and school bus yellow can see it. Both OSU and Oregon have the same problem- breaking in a new QB.
When both programs look identical in terms of athletism, I’ll take a consistent coach w/ less offseason turmoil, no question.
All I saw was purple
What about that Rose Bowl?
Oregon was sturdy with Mike Bellotti at the helm. But I haven’t really seen that consistently from Kelly yet.
One year on the job.
One Pac 10 Championship
One Rose Bowl
Consensus Pick to do it again in 2010
How many Rose Bowls did Mike Bellotti go to?
Not consistently sturdy under Kellly?
by John Berkowitz on Jul 29, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Great evidence
And I agree his one season as head coach was impressive. But was he playing with a stacked deck? Meaning that the league was young and everybody was playing underclassmen QBs? One season does not equal consistent to me, it could’ve easily have come down to the notion that Bellotti left the cupboard full and the rest of the league was down. Furthermore I have to continue to point out his ineffective administration duties as head coach during the offseason. True a coach can’t be everywhere, but should be able to provide them with a clear understanding as to what is expected as individuals both off the field and off campus.
Riley’s team is just as deep and athletic as Kelly’s team and they have the same problem at QB. I’m only saying I would pick OSU to win it like Jake too, mainly due to less off the field drama. That stuff is never a positive for a team.
All I saw was purple
Yes. You are Crazi. I can't see anyone other than Oregon as a favorite.
… we can only hope that their QB situation fails them and that their LB corps is over-hyped.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
So let me get this straight...
Since I’ve gone out on a limb during the preseason and predicted Oregon State to be the frontrunner to Pasadena that makes me crazi? If that is the case then surely Jake is in the same boat as I- because he picked the Beavs has his favorite too. Everybody has their opinion and I’m no different. Tell you the truth if you ask many USC fans, their going to tell you that the Trojans are still high and above better then everybody. Some will say Cal, others will predict Stanford, you picked the ducks, and some will even come right out and say Washington will win it. Why am I being singled out on this prediction thing? Everybody knows that the league is WIDE OPEN, is it crazi to think the Beavs have a legit shot? Just asking…
All I saw was purple
Very crazi.
I don’t think anyone is killing you for an opinion, people are just pointing out that you might not be arriving at it in a logical manner. I don’t think anyone here would be shocked if OSU wins the Pac-10, but most (key word, most, not all) analysts tend to lean toward UO being the better team this year.
That doesn’t that UO is by far and away the better team, but simply that if you had to make a strong case for a team to win the conference, it would be easiest to make it for USC or UO right now. You need to realize that people aren’t attacking you personally.
Ok, maybe Gekko Mojo called you an idiot under his breath, but I bet he didn’t really mean it.
Well is sounds like I'm being attacked personally
Read Gekko’s headline for starters. And I don’t give a dam about talent when it comes to predicting anything. Oregon might be talented, they may be more talented then Oregon State. Do I care? Their could be a lot of intangilbles that can play into who wins the league this upcoming season. Scheduling comes to mind, injuries come to mind, which QB blossoms under center better for either the ducks or Beavs could come into play.
Someone mentioned that Oregon’s O line is much better then the Beavs O line. At this point I cannot confirm that. Now if you want to say last season the duck O line was better then the Beav O line then yeah I can come to terms with that and will agree to some extent. But this is a new season, maybe the Beavs O line get it done for Quiz this next fall, where Quiz has an 1800 yard season. Maybe Oregon gets the injury bug on the O line and thus falls to a record of 7-5.
Everything up until the season kicks off is merely specualtion and a lot of guessing. The majority is compelled to think Oregon is the frontrunner for roses (again- yuck!). I’m staying on a limb and I think OSU is a prime contender to get to Pasadena for the first time in generations. Would that bother duck fans if they actually made it and won the game? Ouch…
All I saw was purple
I'll grant the offseason turmoil
but I think the way Kelly pulled his team back from the BSU debacle pretty much kills the rest of your argument. If there’s any real question about him for this year as a coach at this point, the only thing I can think of is this: will he be able to develop a QB to replace Masoli?
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought Kelly did an exceptional job pulling that team back together…they could have easily folded. He didn’t let that happen.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
But I don’t think Oregon is good enough to win back to back Pac 10 championships, especially without a returning QB. USC is going to be in the mix to some extent, Stanford has a legit shot, so do the Oregon schools, and not to be biased but Washington has an outside shot to win it too.
If Quiz has a tremendous season- Its the Beavs in the Rose Bowl (my prediction)
All I saw was purple
Very true
So that means it should be a race between UW and . . . . . um, who else has a senior QB???
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
this is where I disagree ...
… If you had to pick one of Katz, Thomas or Costa to go into the season with, I’m guessing most impartial analysts would take Katz and do so by a wide margin.
The rest of Oregon’s depth tips the scales rather dramatically.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
The only problem with that is Riley's System has a strong track record of being very hard on new starters.
This trend goes all the way back to Anderson. Kelley has proven that given any significant amount of time, he can get the most out of a QB. Oregon’s QB position almost is plug and play in that respect.
Dixon – Went from being booed at Autzen to a leading Heisman Contender
Justin Roper – Had the best game of his life against a pretty decent USF in the Sun Bowl
Masoli – Took a fifth string QB and ended the season as one of the best QB’s in the Pac-10.
I watched Oregon plug them in all day in an opener against us a few years ago.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 29, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And it was only 21-10 in the 4th when the Huskies failed to convert on 4th on our 46 according to the recap. I don’t think I remember that game being as tight as 2007 was going into the 4th, but it was definitely much closer than the final score would have you believe.
Never forget 2002 & 2003
UW 42 – Oregon 14
UW 42 – Oregon 10
Losing to a good Oregon team isn’t the end of the world. But it’s REALLY bad when Keith Gilbertson coached Huskies kick your a$$.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lear - love your fight - but we dont' have much to brag about when it comes to the Oregon series
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Yes we do.
You just have to look at the big picture, in other words, look at other decades too. I’m pretty sure we still own the entire series by a wide margin.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
true - and Notre Dame is the most storied program in the world
… in a “big picture” sense.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I hate to say it, but watch out for Notre Dame
I’d put money on Brian Kelly turning the Domers back into a legitimate National Title Contender. Every hire since Lou Holtz has been mediocre, this is the first time they’ve gotten a proven head coach who has had above average success elsewhere (please don’t bring up Willingham, I’ll shoot down that argument faster than an Oregon Duck can get arrested).
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Oregon QB Stats for the game
Roper 7/11 114 yds 1td
Masoli 9/17 126 yds 2td
Harper 12 Carries 60 yards 1td
That was a pretty even effort
Oregon QB Stats for the game
Roper 7/11 114 yds 1td
Masoli 9/17 126 yds 2td
Harper 12 Carries 60 yards 1td
That was a pretty even effort
Interesting point
Riley’s biggest short coming as a head coach is the way his teams continually get off to a slow start. How many times have we seen OSU go 0-2 or 1-2 (losing a game they shouldn’t) and then they turn it around and take the world by storm. Just curious if that can be attributed to his system, or his way of teaching his system. Not sure, just a thought.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
It's not just the beginning of the season... a lot of the time it takes about a year and a half
for QB to really hit their stride. That’s why I think Oregon’s QB play will be better this year.
Neither school has a returning QB and Oregon has more talent at the other positions. How does that make OSU more likely to win the conference?
by netminder82 on Jul 29, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Neither school has a returning QB and Oregon has more talent at the other positions.
That’s an arguable point.
Quiz > James IMO
James Rodgers > any Duck WR
Paea > any Duck DT
Oregon might have a better overall defense, and they might have a better offensive line. The overall comparison between the two squads is an interesting one, and as an outside observer I’m not sure I can clearly mark one as better than the other.
by kirkd on Jul 29, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You aren’t bringing into account that Paea will be exposed as an alien sent to destroy the opposition and thus banned from the NCAA.
The Quizz vs. James debate is interesting for sure. I think it is about a wash, and yeah, Rodgers is more talented than any Duck receiver we’ve seen as of yet. Maehl has proven himself to be the reliable WR that is needed to keep the defense honest, but the depth beyond that is a mystery right now.
Still think Oregon has the better O-line, more weapons on offense, and overall is a more talented squad like Gekko said. If Katz is money though, that could seriously make up for lack of depth in other areas. I don’t think anyone has their panties in a bunch, just stating an opinion.
by netminder82 on Jul 29, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
While I ultimately agree with you,
comparing your backs to OSU’s, or your line to OSU’s, is really of little value.
It’s going to come down to your o-line vs. OSU’s d-line, and OSU’s receivers against your DB’s, etc. An overall talent advantage doesn’t always make up for advantages that particular units have over their counterparts.
That kind of makes me agree with kirkd – it’s really too close to definitively say.
Both team’s QB’s get a nice road game (or games) early in order to get battle-tested. Oregon probably has an advantage in early schedule, because those two cupcake games are going to be ideal to work on offensive timing and execution. Costa/Thomas isn’t going to have to win either game on his own. Katz is going to have to make major contributions for the Beavers to beat either TCU or Boise State.
Wait, so you’re telling me that our O-line has to block their D-line? I don’t buy it.
After a Civil War last year that may have led to permanent heart damage, I wouldn’t be willing to put anything more than a five spot on the Ducks being the better team. If there is an edge, it is probably slim.
Wait, so you’re telling me that our O-line has to block their D-line? I don’t buy it
Stop putting words into my mouth. They don’t have to do anything. In fact, I’d be just fine if Oregon’s offensive line didn’t block the Beav’s defensive line. Or the UW’s.
Hah! Maybe that’s what Chip told them before the BSU game last year?
“Listen guys, I can’t legally require you to block their D-line, but it would sure be nice if you did.”
Good point on comparing game-by-game matchups as it pertains to the on the field action rather than comparing the counterparts of each time. We overlook that too much sometimes and fall into RB vs. RB type comparisons. That being said, it would be interesting to watch Jake Locker vs. Nate Costa on the field. I’m picturing Locker giving Costa an Ultimate Warrior style backbreaker over his knee.
OSU has the potential to go 7-2 or 8-1 in league
If the ducks and the Beavs have identical league records, it could come down to the Civil War and who has home field advantage this season? I’m simply going out on a limb guys and making a bold prediction. Jeez, don’t get your panties in a wad :)
All I saw was purple
Wow really?
you can tell it’s July when something so minor gets so much hype.
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
Dog days of July...
Last week I turned on the TV and ESPN was running men’s slowpitch softball and ESPN 2 was running Brickyard qualifying laps.
by netminder82 on Jul 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
ya'll should watch MMA
there is no off season.
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
That sport is for trailer parks fella!
All I saw was purple
You must be a boxing fan. Mixed Martial Arts is the fastest growing sport in North America.
Unlike nascar which said the same thing 7 or 8 years ago to my knowledge their are no big time tracks in the pacific northwest or the rocky mtn states. MMA is nationwide and getting bigger every year. College football is my favorite sport but MMA is a close second.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 5 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jul 31, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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