Middleton asked to leave
by John Berkowitz on Jul 20, 2010 4:28 PM PDT
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UW TE Kavario Middleton has been dismissed from the team for undisclosed reasons (violation of team rules). No word out of Montlake on what specifically happened but it seems to be more of a gradual parting of the ways due to attitude.
Middleton, a 5-star prospect out of Lakes HS in 2008, was supposed to battle Chris Izbicki for the starting tight end spot in 2010. He caught 26 passes for 257 yards and three TD's in 2009.
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C'Mon John ...
There’s the “public” version of what happened and then there is “reality.”
The “public” version is a “gradual parting of ways.” No reason to ruin a kid’s reputation to the general public – this is enough damage in a lot of ways.
But on the other hand, a talented player will always be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trying to instill a work ethic, etc. Even if he wasn’t “working hard,” he still was better than most at that position on our roster. There’s more to the story … there always is. And my guess is that whatever “it” was … “it” wasn’t the first time either.
I am on vacation this week so when I heard the news this afternoon I didn’t really have a chance to talk to anyone back in Seattle about what was going on. I had a pretty good idea but I don’t think it would have been fair to comment on it by making an educated guess…as the day went on it all came out in the Times and on KJR.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 20, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
John ...
I’m not saying that you should have published it … I know I wouldn’t have.
But the “general parting of the ways” by both sides is a tad on the misleading side.
I’d be shocked if Kavario “wanted” to leave …
Leaving something like that vague may have been better and allowing the other media sources to essentially comment on the reasons by reading into what they aren’t saying on certain topics.
Not that John needs me to defend him . . .
we definitely don’t always see eye to eye. But . . .
“Middleton asked to leave”
and
“UW TE Kavario Middleton has been dismissed from the team for undisclosed reasons (violation of team rules)”
makes it seem pretty obvious to me that he didn’t leave on his own terms.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Like I said I am on vacation so don’t have time to check sources…or even write the story…I will come out with something when I get back but I think Condotta and KJR have covered most of the bases.
This didn’t start yesterday…Kavario has had a tough time fitting in with the new regime from the get go and he has had plenty of chances along the way to get on the train.
like I said when Sark took over there would be attrition…some of the attrition you may like and others you might not.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 21, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Check the comments from his H.S. coach
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskyfootballblog/2012405551__and_the_process_sark.html
I see no reason to think that Sark over reacted here – seems pretty clear that Middleton has been having issues with this staff and was not meeting expectations despite several chances. And it’s also a continuation of a pattern he started in High School.
It’s really a shame, but it seems pretty clear here that the problem was with Middleton and Sark made a good call.
agree Kirk and it's a disappointment
but, hey, I’m, sadly, getting used to it even if I’m overseas. I can’t say I feel sorry for him but I do hope he can get his act together with what is a pretty serious wakeup call. I’d say Sark impresses me if I knew what the circumstances were. I like coaches that don’t take any bs.
by hairofthedawg on Jul 20, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I like coaches that don’t take any bs.
I couldn’t agree more. I liked the Ty hire because he was that type of coach (to a fault). I’d rather have a good clean program with kids who want to play, then a “Miami North” that wins at all ethical costs.
It was always sad to seek Kevario misuse his talents and not develop them. Good luck to him. I hope he lands at a good program, finds what makes him tick and develops into an all time great.
I agree also. As I get older its amazing to me
the decisions some young kids make is confounding. I wish Kavario well and hope he turns it around quickly. Such a waste of talent. That said, I fully support Coach"s decision.
On another note, with all the stadium and Kavario stuff, USC announced Pat Haden as the new AD
(an excellent choice BTW) effective 3 Aug. The first 3 words Pat Haden said in the presser was “no more cheating”. They also decided in light of the NCAA recommendations to return Reggie Bush’s Heisman to the foundation. The new President is cleaning house. I hope he will hire a certain football coach who is living in San Jose to clean up that program when Lane stumbles with more gaffes.
Haden
Sounds like George Bush Sr saying “Read My Lips”!
by John Berkowitz on Jul 21, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
How will Haden and Kiffin see each other?
It’s looks like night and day between Kiffin and Haden. Lane Kiffin just became Paul Wulff overnight. Both Kiffin and Wulff are now working for bosses that didn’t hire them. Pat Heden is being brought in to clean up the program(s). So I have to ask, what happens if Kiffin continues to disregard NCAA policy? Does Haden fire Kiffin in an Al Davis manner and go with his guy- someone from the USC family?
Regardless, the Haden/Kiffin relationship seems rather odd. Question: How does a prominant USC QB become the voice of Notre Dame football on NBC? That is truly bizzare!
All I saw was purple
Not true in the slightest
Haden was the man chiefly responsible for hiring Kiffin. Go check out Conquest Chronicles for details.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't get why people think Kiffin was a Garrett hire
Garrett’s been a lame duck for a year. It’s been well known that when the President retired, Garrett was out, too. Because of this, the boosters — including Haden — chose the coach, not Garrett.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
cute
you guys falling for Haden as enforcer. is it the glasses? the Rhodes Scholar? lol
and Kiffin had nothing to do with it…the unhealthy obsession continues.
by 206 on Jul 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
I just said Garrett didn’t hire the coach and that saying Kiffin is in trouble because Haden was fired is false.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 21, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
definitely wasn't talking about you, cougfan
but realize it might have looked that way. my apologies.
by 206 on Jul 22, 2010 2:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Enforcer?
I don’t see where that comes from . . . personally, I’m with John, I think Haden’s a joke hire — sure, he’s a bright guy, but he doesn’t have the relevant experience for the job, and I don’t think he’ll do well. This, of course, makes me very sad. :)
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 22, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
cute
you guys falling for Haden as enforcer. is it the glasses? the Rhodes Scholar? lol
and Kiffin had nothing to do with it…the unhealthy obsession continues.
by 206 on Jul 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I am not impressed by the hiring of Haden…no experience as an AD…an ex player who has become an influential booster…we shall see.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 21, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think its window dressing
Pat Haden has always look the part of a chior boy. He has a remarkable reputation on television- something that could influence recruiting. Let’s keep in mind that LA is more or less Hollywood and image is everything down there.
Haden looks good on tv, looks innocent, is a member of the USC family, and says all the write things. It’s all window dressing.
All I saw was purple
As with Garrett, Haden is just a puppet.
But he’s a squeaky-clean looking puppet.
To think that he’s suddenly going to change the way USC operates is probably a bit naive. He’ll just put a nicer face on it.
Unfortunately . . . .
Bob Condotta just broke some other bad news yesterday, “Willingham says he’s done with coaching”. So, unfortunately for us, USC won’t be able to hire the “molder of men” to “fix” their program.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Yeah he's done...
…with coaching because nobody is calling him.
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Funny how that works, huh!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Pat H
on the UC blog is reportedly weaseling in the Mike Garrett tradition. Goody two shoes may not be so goody.
I call it...
The, “I’m a Star” syndrome. These kids are told when they are very young that they are great players, sure to make it to the league, etc. They seem to think team rules are for the peons not for “stars”.
Jeremy Stevens is of the same mold. A high school classmate of his I talked to said JS got away with a lot of indiscretions in HS.
Condotta says there was a failed drug test as well, it looks a cumulative effect decision by Sark and Co.
Don't put the label on everybody
I see what you are saying and to some extent agree with your statement. However not every kid thinks like that. Giving Kavario the heave-ho is Sark still weeding thru all the crap left by Ty. If you really look at it in length Kavario is a lot like Ty. Both thought they had long leashes, both didn’t take their jobs serious enough and both didn’t didn’t get the sense of urgency. When it comes down to it both didn’t BRING IT.
Sark’s gunning for playmakers on both sides of the ball. He wants football players first and foremost. Potential is good as in Kavario’s world. But potential is nothing more then “unrealized talent”. We want football players with winning attitudes around here and a pot smoking TE is in contrast to what Sark is gunning for.
All I saw was purple
I don't label all players that way
just the lazy, I’m too good to have to follow the rules kids. Jake is the antithesis of the syndrome.
I know plenty on Stevens, unfortunately.
I subbed in the middle school his dad worked at, heck of a nice guy. However, he’s about the only person I’ve ever met (and I’ve known a ton) who knows and speaks well of Jerremy. Of course, he may have been a tad biased.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jul 21, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Stevens was very nice the one time I met and talked with him. Obvously I don’t know him but he was cool to me.
That's actually refreshing to hear.
And he may be settling down now too, and I would give him a chance in person, EVERYONE is due that. The history you’ve read about in the media certainly isn’t a case of media manipulation however. But it is nice to hear a positive word…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jul 21, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Snos are you...
…really surprised at that? And does that mean anything?
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Spare the rod...
…spoil the child.
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How much is really lost in Kavario's absense?
Sure the depth takes a huge hit- that is slated for another topic. But for this upcoming season I think things turn out great for Izibiki. Now I’m sure with the news breaking yesterday, Izibiki is cranking it up a few notches since he’ll be the man at tight end this upcoming season. And I sure would like to get back to using the TE as more of a receiving threat. Hopefully Izibiki sees a golden opportunity this upcoming season to do what he came here to be.
I wish nothing but the best for Kavario, but this is the Huskies and I’m down with the Dawgs! Moving on is good, because I have to wonder if some of the stuff going on w/ Kavario was affecting or had the potential to affect the climate in the lockeroom. Wish you well Kavario but I’m a Dawg and I support the UW first and foremost.
All I saw was purple
Whoops!
Just saw it … spelled “absence” incorrectly. Maybe I aughta use spelll check now and then. No worries :)
All I saw was purple
This is a Husky blog, not a spelling/grammar job.
If there are any perfect writers among us, well they’ll just have to suffer.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Agreed
But some folks on here have thrown jabs at spelling and grammar. Apparently their argument can’t support itself, so they ch0ose to aim under the belt.
All I saw was purple
Grow up.
You never did get my point prior, and I never once aimed under the belt.
Seriously, I’m over it. Can you be too?
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jul 21, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Worries bro...
…you’re not in grammar school.
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I wonder if this could affect his recruitment to UW? Only one senior in front of him so a chance for immediate playing time.
Sure doesn't hurt
And I know this sort of talk is not popular with the editor, but I do think kids w/ NFL potential look for windows of opportunity to play right away w/ little resistence. They want to be the guy coming in. And in this case ASJ would be THEE guy coming in!
All I saw was purple
Question?
I see the phrase “Middleton asked to leave” and I’m still trying to figure it out.
Did Kavario ask the coaching staff if he could leave?
OR
Did the coaching staff ask Kavario to leave? I’m confused…
All I saw was purple
This leaves a door open for Kavario to return (I think)
No criminal activity, no academic issues, and not related to a violent incident. Kavario broke team rules and for that reason he was kicked off the team.
Has anyone heard if Sark left a door open for Kavario in the event he seeks help? Decides to put forth max effort and to do exactly what the coaches ask of him?
I would love for Kavario to learn from this, accept it, remedy the problems, and get some counciling. But I’m wondering how and what Kavario thinks of his ouster. Bottom line is team rules are not designed for interpretation, nor are any players immune or excluded. Team rules are a boundary for players not to cross and if that boundary is breeched then surely they must suffer the penalty. Must’ve been a doosey since the penalty was being kicked off the team. Seek help Kavario, show coach you mean business because every Husky fan would love to see you return in the event you clean up your act.
Let’s keep in mind that coach Sark brought back EJ for some of the exact same reasons. I have a hunch a door is open if Kavario decides to get it together and show the coaches he wants it.
All I saw was purple
According to this, he's done for good.
Miller said UW coaches told Middleton of their decision over the weekend, and have informed him that there is “zero” chance he would ever be reinstated to the program.
Can I ask why the coaches failed to provide Kavario with more of a stern warning?
It’s obvious this isn’t the first team rule Kavario has broken. So why wasn’t Kavario “suspended from all team activity” earlier in his college career when the first signs began to unravel? Doing this would’ve provided Kavario with a stern warning that he is on the brink of no return. Did the coaches somewhat overlook early warning signs, had just about all they could handle and decided to finally kick him off the team?
The first sign of issues should’ve resulted in a 1 or 2 game suspension, a 2nd team rule infraction would then result in a “suspension from all team activity”, and a 3rd violation would thus be permanently kicked off the team. Let’s keep in mind that we don’t have any oregon type issues here. No violence, no academic issues, and no legal problems.
If he is just a lazy kid then I just don’t know where to go with that. He has/had the world at his feet and it seems he’s pissed it all away. I just hope their is the slightest possiblity that he can come back in the event he grows up and seeks help.
All I saw was purple
How stern is stern...
This wasn’t a surprise.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 21, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
How stern is stern?
First rule infraction: offer a 1 or 2 game suspension
Second rule infraction: immediately suspended from all team activity, but can be reinstated if the player in question seeks help and works his tail off.
Third rule infraction: indefinitely suspended from the program w/ no chance of reinstatement.
Hell I went from not hearing anything negative about Kavario to an indefiniete suspension. That’s why this Middleton story comes as such a huge shock to many Husky fans.
All I saw was purple
This is a slippery slope very similar to what happened with Blount down in Oregon.
Guys get multiple chances during the course of the season. A hard and fast “set rule due to infraction” rarely works, as the infractions are generally far less of a “single issue” but more of a building of things. Many straws that added together broke the camel’s back.
I agree, it’s a shock for us to hear, but think about this— given his lack of production given his talent level, is it that much of a shock? Perhaps it is the best answer. Now we know.
He didn’t buy into the program on multiple levels, and now he’s gone. I promise you with his talent he was given the benefit of the doubt and they did everything within their power to empower him to perform up to expectation. We don’t know the half of it, and we never will, but when a coaching staff boots a player with zero chance of return I always give the staff the benefit of the doubt.
But, overall, bummer. Multiple levels. Too bad he went that way, and too bad for the team…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jul 21, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on what...
…the infraction is. Sometimes it can be “that’s it you’re done”. Some of those things are personal and not everything is going to be disclosed publicly.
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Nobody really knows what happened prior to this point.
I highly doubt it just came out of left field. According to his high school coach, Middleton was “given numerous chances” by Sarkisian prior to his dismissal.
Gosh Crazi...
…we don’t know the whole story but you can bet he had plenty of chances.
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He had plenty of chances…nuff said. This has been an ongoing thing.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 22, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Players don't "ask" to leave
they just up and leave. You can’t force a player not to leave.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
No
But they can request a transfer for reasons such as home sickness, family health issues, and for personal reasons.
All I saw was purple
They don't need to "request" a transfer
They can leave, then go find another interested school. It will probably cost them a year of eligibility, but there is no way to keep a guy who wants to leave.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Technically, the school has to release him from his scholarship.
Almost always happens, but Todd Turner wouldn’t do it for a couple of UW women’s basketball players when Daugherty was fired and Tia Jackson hired.
Please don’t post links to that site. No truth to the post that Shirley has made up his mind at this time. He has a few legal hurdles to overcome before that is a reality.
by John Berkowitz on Jul 22, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
In Sark we trust.
I’ve got to say, the more I think about Sark kicking Middleton off the team, the more I like it. It’s going to be a huge hit to our depth at TE, but it should be crystal clear to everyone that it’s Sark’s way or the highway. In a way, Sark just “executed a hostage”, and every player better know beyond any shadow of a doubt, that he is dead serious.
When Sark was hired, I was very worried that we had hired a young inexperienced head coach who would be learning on the job. I was also worried that he was hired because he was the opposite of Willingham. As much as we dislike Willingham, he ran a clean program that followed the rules. Needless to say, I was worried Sark would be more along the lines of Neuheisel and Kiffin.
I’m very happy to report that I was wrong! Sark has already proven that he will run a very tight ship and won’t take crap from anybody, not even a 5 star recruit with NFL potential. What exactly do we have in Coach Sark:: a young, energetic coach who likes to have fun playing football, but runs a very tight ship and doesn’t take crap from anyone. Hhmm . . . . I like it.
Chip Kelly – Are you taking notes???
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Hmm, not sure why its necessary to throw in that barb at the end.
Looks like the tight ship just got a little looser
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
The situation with Shirley should not be held against Sarkisian by any means.
Sarkisian is doing the right thing — he’s giving the kid a second chance. I like that in a coach. That’s one thing I like about Chip Kelly, and I’m glad Sarkisian’s showing the same faith in a kid with a history.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
I have absolutely no problem with Sark with taking Shirley on.....
Hypocritical fans are to be expected and ignored
Honestly
I don’t have a problem with giving a kid a second chance, I just think the little jab at Chip Kelly is unnecessary, and unrelated to the rest of what he had to say. I trust that Sark is infinitely more familiar with the situation than I am, as Chip is with his own team.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
My "sincerest" apologies.
I would never intentionally hurt a Duck fans feelings, that would be mean!
Come on, a Husky fan can’t even throw in a little jab at his rival schools coach? You’re kidding right? You must want to live in a REALLY boring world. I’m sure you would NEVER make any Husky jokes!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
FYI
This is a Husky blog, Cougar and Duck jokes should be expected. If I had my way, it would be a requirement to end ever post with a Coug joke or a Duck joke.
i.e. – Historians have concluded that Jesus could not have been born in Pullman or Eugene. They couldn’t find three wise men or a virgin.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I guess I just don't get the "joke"
I know it is virtually conventional wisdom with some Husky fans that somehow Chip Kelly has lost control of his team or is lacking as a disciplinarian, but the facts just don’t support this idea. If Sark felt it was in the best interest of the team to dismiss Kavario based on the facts and how they relate to the rules he violated, then by all means he is entitled to do so, good for him, the guys need to know he is the driving the boat and respect that.
I agree with almost every thing you said.I just don’t understand how that has anything to do with Chip Kelly, who (also in his first year at the helm) had to dismiss several good (even great) players, again based on the merits of each individual case.
You gotta love the irony of getting this guy (Shirley) from the Weasel after the issues that came to light after he left. Like I said above though if Sark thinks this guy deserves another opportunity so be it. It just makes any objections about Marcus Davis (the DB we got from Texas) moot. It’s OK to joke, but I reserve to right to respectfully call BS.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Chip Kelly
I know it is virtually conventional wisdom with some Husky fans that somehow Chip Kelly has lost control of his team or is lacking as a disciplinarian,
That statement does not reflect any reality. We mostly believe that he hasn’t handled the rash of crap he’s faced with consistency (an opinion that many unattached parties share), but that is a far cry from “lost control”. In fact, I would guess most of us believe that things look stable and there is no reason UO shouldn’t be the favorite to win the Pac 10.
I realize that this is a big open sore for you quackers, but you might try to tone down the paranoia a little bit. The world is not out to get you.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
What is this mysterious concept you call “consistency” anyway? Every situation is different. None of us know all the facts that Kelly, Sark or even Neuheisel knows. I acknowledge what you are saying about my statement above, those are things John Canzano said, that I applied here, probably unfairly.
I just have a hard time getting a handle on the definition of consistency. If I was a player on any team I would hope that the coach would deal with me fairly, and even differently than another player based on the individual circumstances, that factor into each instance. The truth is that “consistency” only exists when all variables are equal. There can be no consistency, when each instance is different. I know there are different examples of DUII, but we don’t know what other factors have gone into the outcomes for those situations.
So I will say it again, the only way we can measure consistency on this subject is related to how Chip Kelly (or anyone else) approaches each situation. A good judge listens to the facts before making a decision and passing sentence. Based on all the information I have found on this subject, he has been consistent in the way he approached each situation. Maybe the punishments appear “inconsistent” to us on the outside, but I think the guys on the team know coach has their back, he believes in them, he trusts them. When they screw up he will give them an opportunity to improve their situation, but there are limits. Obviously that backfired with Masoli, you can’t win them all, so sometimes you have to let one go their own way.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
by QuackinAK on Jul 23, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well said, and rec'd. partisanship aside...
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jul 24, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
good joke by the way
He was probably born in Tijuana there are lots of “virgins” and “wise guys” there.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Here's a joke for you
What do you call a player who’s too sleazy to play for Rick Neuheisel as a Bruin?
A husky.
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Oh, and I am positive that husky fans would be saying the same thing about him and the decision to bring him in if he had gone to Oregon that they are saying about him choosing UW.
Just make sure you all check your comments about Oregon over the last 6 months before you comment about bringing in this kid. We at Oregon know what it means to have, “what you say, can and will be used against you…”
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Oh, and I am positive that husky fans would be saying the same thing about him and the decision to bring him in if he had gone to Oregon that they are saying about him choosing UW.
Of course we would, there is precedent there.
Look, bringing in Shirley without knowing if he’s going to avoid being charged is risky. This move could blow up in Sark’s face if the City Attorney’s office decides to charge Shirley, or if Shirley gets into trouble at the UW.
However, Sark has established a clear pattern of not letting talent or positional need prevent him from booting players that don’t adhere to his disciplinary standards. That, IMO, gives him some leeway in deciding to take in Shirley.
Probably right...but you have to admit that Oregon is easily the most aggressive team in the PAC 10
….in terms of taking chances on kids with colorful background. The situations would be different.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
He actually prefered to go to Oregon.
But he didn’t meet the prerequisite of having a felony conviction on his record.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Sarkisian is doing the right thing — he’s giving the kid a second chance.
I think it’s important to remember that we don’t really know yet exactly what Sark is giving him a second chance from.
We know he was arrested for felony theft, but was released without having to post bail (unlike the other two suspects arrested in connection with the theft), and the DA has punted on prosecution leaving it up to the City Attorney to decide whether to proceed with the case. We know that Neuheisel revoked the scholarship agreements from all three and not allowing them to join the team without meeting a number of conditions down the road, leaving them free to enroll elsewhere.
Until (and unless) we see a detailed police report on what it is authorities think Shirley did, all we have right now is seeing that UCLA wanted Shirley gone and Washington was OK with taking him on.
Correction
“Neuheisel revoked the scholarship agreements” should read “UCLA revoked the scholarship agreements”
The more I hear about this story, the more I believe that the school administration made the move and didn’t give Neuheisel much say in the matter. If what you hint at is true (Shirley was in the wrong place at the wrong time) then Neuheisel would never have punished him so “harshly”.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I just read your fan post.
Looks like I’m not the only one who is open to the idea that the school probably made the decision before the coach could.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Well
this kinda sucks…
I’m off to edit my NCAA 11 roster now….ta’.
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Pain don't hurt...
Agree about the barb....
it’s not necessary.
This think with Shirley puts a whole new, interesting slant on it. I like watching how Sark handles these situations, and so far, I agree with the way in which he is handling them.
This man is has integrity. From what he has already told us, I think he’s going to be around for quite a while, and I think he is going to be successful, precisely because he is who he is.
Expect to Win!!!
by OLDDOG on Jul 22, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's not necessary
But it sure is fun to give the Duck fans a hard time.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I think it's just not very clear as to why it was just thrown in there.
Here, I wrote something a few months ago for an experiment I did:
The conclusion I’ve drawn from the results of my data collection both supported my hypothesis, while also showing me a little about harmful substances applied in moderation to plantlife.
The control group thrived without any substance added, as was expected. Group 1 also rendered completely unsurprising data. They had very steady, almost linear decay. Group 2 followed suit. Group 3 had expectedly typical decay, although the averages on my graphs may not display that, as the death of individuals often served to inadvertently raise the average for the group. In retrospect, I should have figured a way to weight this so as to show the death as a negative effect on the group average and not a positive – however, what’s done is done.
I enjoyed observing the effects of white wine in varying dosages upon my test subjects. This experiment has taught me much about flora and just how volatile life is if it is observed closely enough.
Lear Pilot smells like ass.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
You again?
Didn’t you learn your lesson the first time?
Here’s a quick lesson for the mentally handicapped (qrsouther): When discussing a topic, it’s very normal to compare your point with something very similar. For instance:
I drive a Lear jet, qrsouther drives a Ford Pinto
I’m a professional pilot, qrsouther is a mentally handicapped student (probably at OU)
Steve Sarkisian has done a great job disciplining his team, Chip Kelly has screwed the pooch trying to discipline his team.
John B. – Please do us all a favor, ban qrsouther and delete these two posts.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Its UO
He’s a high school student in Eugene, not a Sooner. Just Saying.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
My fingers get ahead of me at times.
If he was a Sooner, I wouldn’t be as hard on him.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Don't feed the trolls...
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
Are you related to Julia Comstock by any chance?
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
Who is Julia Comstock?
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
Nevermind, I just noticed your last name was Comstock.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
I might be related to her.
Who is she?
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
She's a friend of my family. About 22 years old, lives in Ballard.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
That's interesting.
All the “Comstock” side of my family is in, or around Tulsa OK. So I doubt we are related, but you never know.
When Josh Barnett pisses in a cup, magic comes out.
"what the f**k is the internet?"
Pain don't hurt...
It's good to know you can laugh at yourself.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
hard to take you seriously when you resort to childish name calling.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Jul 23, 2010 1:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sigh. It was meant to be ironic.
Forget it.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
And you can quote me on that any time, any where, for any reason.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
Hard to take you seriously when you resort to childish name calling.
Chip Kelly is my shepherd, there is nothing I shall want.
Now that's funny!
“The Child” calling somebody else childish!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Middleton was into drugs
And was going to be suspended the first two games of the season. It wasn’t made public. After he screwed up more Sark told him there weren’t going to be anymore games, and dismissed him.
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