Isaiah wants to play Kentucky—do you agree?
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 20, 2010 10:59 AM PDT
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PrintSo this morning, in the aftermath of the Jones-to-Kentucky announcement, Isaiah Thomas had an interesting series of tweets. All sic'd, of course.
I hope we play KENTUCKY nxt yr n the Maui classic. All I gotta say is ITS BOUT TO GO DOWN (@KevinHart4real voice) A BARK over a meow ne day
At this point, Thomas's tweet gets retweeted by some Kentucky media sources and tons of negative messages start getting sent to Isaiah. No point in reposting them here, but they pretty much run the gamut from simple trash talk about UW's chances in such a game to attacking Isaiah's character to claiming that everyone at Kentucky will play in the NBA while Isaiah will be a no one after he leaves UW. There are a few positive messages from Kentucky fans, but they're few and far between. Then Isaiah posts a few responses.
Ha Im not mad. There no reason I should be mad. I respect Tjones n the wildcats. I jus want 2 play them so please people who hatin fall back
Haha Kentucky fans why are yall all following me??? Ima DAWG I ain't no wildcat so please unfollow me BIG BLUE NATION LMAO
Hahaha I'm lovin this... Y'all using that Kentucky durby money to get recruits. Can't knock the HUSTLE lol. Good ish BIG BLUE NATION LOl
That jus sounds so weird to me. who wants to be BIG and BLUE? Like the avatar? Or the blue dudes that use to be n those commercials lol??
I'm jus messin wit yall man.. I could care less about Kentucky lol. Do what yall do. Yall gettin butt hurt over there 4 no reason. Relllaaax
To be honest BIG BLUE NATION I really don't think ur coach is coming back!! #ImJustSayin... My coach is here 4 10 more YRS hahaha yessssss
Things are still going as I write this so check his feed if you want more I guess.
So... what do you guys think? Was it right for Isaiah to go public with this? And, on a related note, do you guys hope to play Kentucky in the Maui Invitational?
Personally, and although I often shake my head at how some of our athletes handle Twitter and other appearances in the public discourse, I'm siding with Isaiah here. As someone who has lamented what I see as unambitious non-conference scheduling over the past few years, it's great to see one of our stars wanting to play the best and beat the best. What I don't like about the whole exchange is that Isaiah feels the need to trash "Big Blue Nation", and Kentucky in general (I'm totally in support of the "I respect Tjones n the wildcats" tweet but from there it starts to get ugly). I don't see why Isaiah even wants to read the tweets he gets sometimes, let alone respond to them.
You can probably also ascertain from the above that I very much hope we do play Kentucky. I'm of the opinion that even though that game would probably result in a loss, the risk is low (a loss to Kentucky isn't going to look that bad come selection time) and the reward is high (a win would more or less seal a bid assuming the rest of the season isn't a complete disaster and could really help with seeding). Plus in these pre-season tournaments you never really know what will happen—an upset would be a distinct possibility.
Last but not least, anyone know how the scheduling for this tournament works? I'm sure the organizers realize that a UW-UK game would get some added media interest, but does that necessarily mean they'd put us against each other? Would each team have to survive a few rounds first?
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We take all comers.......not a problem for us.
I understand Isiah’s need to get some national TV time for his kids….but a lot of the Maui games are played late at night…..not really prime time….but still….would love to play them or you guys either one or both……I dont think you will see Cal shying away from too many challenges while at UK…….he has said on several occasions that he wants to upgrade the schedule bigtime. I think he wants to get us back to a 1970’s feel of a schedule……SEC teams as necessary…..a Top 10 opponent every weekend…..national TV audiences for Saturday games like we used to get for Indiana and Notre Dame and Louisville in the early 70’s. But going to Maui is more fun than spring break in Galveston Bay, so let’s hope we all get the matchups we want…..then let the best team win.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I understand Isiah’s need to get some national TV time for his kids…would love to play them or you guys either one or both
Wait, are you under the assumption that this Isiah Thomas is the same one coaching at FIU?
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Haha, I was really wondering about that line. Your interpretation makes sense…
Now I’m imaging Coach Isaiah Thomas butting in to this whole situation and tweeting all of the above and the whole world being like “uh, what???”. LOL.
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I could see a whole bunch of UK fans following the coach Isiah Thomas on Twitter and sending him nasty tweets and Thomas being like… uh what the hell did I do???
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
My apologies folks.....I have really screwed the pooch on this one.....my bad.....
guess next time I should check out the link…..guess I was off in left field somewhere
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
But the rest of my statement stands for any team. We play anyone, anywhere and let the chips fall.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Next time don't rush to post without doing your research --if you aren't already adequately informed.
You could have either checked the link, or simply read the content of the actual post (which references Isaiah being a Dawg and being from UW several times)
Instead you read the title, possibly skimmed the article and jumped to conclusions. You can’t make a mistake of this magnitude and not expect to take some heat for it.
maybe next time Ill just show up and insult the whole blog.....
wont be wrong….just obnoxious…..oh wait…..you seem to have the market cornered on that
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
If you're looking for an apology you need to move on
not going to get one from me.
Next time think before you speak (or type)
no apology requested or needed.......your inflammatory commentary
thankfully I have my inner redneck under control at this point. I apologized myself in another post on this…..I would think that would suffice…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
When do ellipses...
become just a random string of dots? Maybe he has sticky-keys on.
Haha!
ABC you big dork! ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the trash talk.
Honestly? I’d find it hard not to bash Kentucky too, if I had that kind of platform. It’s part of who IT is, and I love the pride in his school.
someone should let Isiah know however, that Wildcats do not meow.......
they snarl and growl just before they rip out your throat with razor sharp claws!!!…..lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Yeah we hear it from Pullman too
snarl, growl, razor sharp claws [yawn]. We’ve heard them all from WSU. Your point is?
All I saw was purple
I would love to play Washington in Maui.
I’m sure if it is at all workable the powers that be will make it happen since everyone loves a little drama. ;)
Now as far as Isaiah’s tweets, I have to say I dont think it is a good idea tp publically trash talk as he is doing. I think if it were one of our guys, Cal would put an immediate stop to it. (Cal was all over Cousins for his “Call Me” gesture in the Mississippi State game last season so I would assume he wouldnt be too tolerant of this type of thing either.)
I especially take offense to this tweet in particular:
Hahaha I’m lovin this… Y’all using that Kentucky durby money to get recruits. Can’t knock the HUSTLE lol. Good ish BIG BLUE NATION LOl
While I understand his feelings and he has the right to say whatever he wants, it is my opinion that his coach should “reign him in” a little bit. Looks like poor sportsmanship – IMO.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions
P.S.
Thanks Six for the invite to come over and discuss. :)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Well yeah, it goes without saying that there are fans who are being ridiculous right now (and always). I DO think kentuckygirl makes a valid point though—Isaiah should be better than this if you ask me.
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha!
Great minds and all that. ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Those people are VERY wrong, no argument from me on that.
Im just saying I would think Thomas’ coach would prefer he take the high road and show that he is better than these jokers that have nothing better to do than fire off at a college student.
Just does no good to keep feeding the fire, so to speak, is all Im saying.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Romar's stance is pretty hands off with Twitter
If it’s a problem he’ll say something, but this is really just Isaiah being Isaiah and having some fun.
I have to confess cassino....I knew nothing of Isaiah before now.....please excuse the faux pas above....
kids are gonna be kids…..let them have their fun……all we heard about last year was Cousins and his “call me” gesture at the Mississippi State game….they are all still big kids…..even for a few years in the NBA
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Poor sportmanship
Coach Cal is a total dirtbag, he’s scum, he should be booted from coaching, Umass, Memphis.
If it wasn’t for that well timed ESPN story on Kentucy’s guy going number 1, i think TJ sign’s with UW.
If a man’s word’s no good he’s no good, TJ, enjoy karma
He’s not from the East coast, why represent them, Screw blue nation.
I wouldn’t be surprised if TJ changes his mind again and if he did i don’t want him.
Go Dawg’s.
Poor Sportsmanship
I’m sorry but that seems like another example to me. “Screw blue nation?” Nice.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 21, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah - that's not nice.
… but Calipari is a dirtbag. that is neither nice or not nice, just factual.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
the veracity of that claim depends upon where in the US you are standing....
since it’s your blog, ill just leave it at that.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Kentucky fans will feel the same way ...
… once he leaves your program in shambles and recovering from multiple rules violations that have been his hallmark over the years. not to worry because he’ll be fat and happy making his millions somewhere else.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You might want to wait for that to actually happen
before you get too concerned. And ask either of those programs that Calipari coached at if they would like to have him back…the answer will be a resounding yes. I dont hear anyone complaining about Marcus Camby, or about the NCAA’s compliance department that cleared Rose to play…..neither school knew of those situations before they actually happened. What would your reponse be if the NCAA cleared one of your guys to play, then you played him all year, then the NCAA comes back after the fact and says ooops!….we were wrong……you lose your season?
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
It would be resounding yes?
How do you know this? Based on what?
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on May 21, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
both of those programs are so much better off when he left than when he arrived
it isnt even funny……look at Memphis……they have a top 10 recruiting class for the 4th time in the last 5 years , and that is AFTER Cal’s departure. They have a great up and coming coach that Cal trained. UMASS wasnt even a blip on the radar screen before Calipari….they enjoyed unprecedented success while he was there. Those programs know where there success came from.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Cassino-you've become a little preachy lately. This kind of banter (with no personal attacking) is all good!
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on May 29, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to play the best teams in that tournament
And beat them to boost the SOS. If Kentucky is one of them, great, but I’d honestly rather play (and beat) Michigan State, as they are probably the best team in the Maui field.
Would you say the Jones issue (and Kanter I guess, though that was nowhere near as dramatic) adds a little to the argument for wanting to play Kentucky instead of Michigan State (of course, it’s not necessarily an either-or thing, but you know). Or is it all water under the bridge?
Side note: who’s going to elevate their game more in a hypothetical UW-UK matchup: Isaiah and co. or Jones and Kanter? I think our boys are probably more upset about this than Jones is (after all, he got what he wanted and we didn’t), but Jones seems to be relishing the villain role right now.
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It would add intrigue to a Kentucky/UW matchup for a ton of people
But honestly now that it’s over I’m over it. Not worried about other programs’ players, just trying to focus on what we’ve got. And I might add, what we’ve got is really really good.
In terms of who elevates their game more, I’d have to go with Isaiah, simply because he’s played college ball before on that type of stage. It’s not new to him, and he’s a proven commodity. The newcomers arent anything until they show it.
I don't know that I'd say villain
He’s what, 18? 19? He’s a kid. Most of us were still trying to figure out how to talk to that cute girl in class or how to get a fake ID for beer at that age (who couldn’t get to Canada), never mind make a decision between family and a what may be a quicker, better shot at the NBA.
Am I disappointed that Jones didn’t stay with us? Yes. Do I think he’ll show up in Maui telling us our mother was a hamster and our father smelled of elderberries? No. Between he and Kanter there may be some extra motivation on our end, but I doubt Jones will be looking to take people’s heads off.
To be honest, I almost wish it WAS an LOI Jones signed, then this whole thing would be over and done with.
And moments later I see the tweet. Heh.
Ah well. When you’re gonna get slammed left and right for how you’ve handled yourself, might as well have fun with it, I guess.
Remember, still a kid.
smart approach to getting to be the best....
the only way to be the man is to beat the man.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Jones Speaks
One of our ASoB members posted this link:
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
You know, I don’t resent Jones for picking Kentucky. I really don’t.
That said, I absolutely do resent him for the way he’s handled this process. I hope you can understand—he committed to us in a very public way. And his public behavior (tweets this month, since the news conference) has been deplorable, in my opinion. It’d be nice to at least see him say that he regrets putting on the Washington hat. I don’t understand how he can defend that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 20, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy is an attention whore.
He doesn’t regret it because it’s getting him all over the news and ESPN.
by Mind of no mind on May 20, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you on that.
When he chose Washington, I was disappointed but ok. Then when he balked my initial reaction was, “Oh Lord, I hope he stands by his decision.”
Dont get me wrong, I’m totally glad to have him in blue and white – that is assuming he STAYS committed – but I really understand your feelings on this situation and know that I would feel the same way if the situation were reversed.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
I was sucked in by the John Canzano column after his news conference, but his actions of late sure make it seem like he’s an attention whore.
Whatever. Would’ve been great to have him on the team, but it wasn’t meant to be. We’ll still be Pac-10 favorites and should make the NCAA Tournament again, and we might just have enough horses without Jones to still make it past the Sweet 16 and have the highest finish yet in the Romar era.
sometimes I think that with these new recruits, all of the attention surrounding their recruitment
is better if it is out in the open like this……that way if anything screwy is going on, it is scrutinized…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I hope you don't expect anyone to read that.
Terrence Jones is gonna be a one and done, who is only gonna get a slight pay raise from his college salary to the professional salary.
now was that really necessary???
I mean I understand disappointment…..but why compound it with outright lies??
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I'll just be interested to see who Calipari ends up employing from within Jones's inner circle.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
well, let's hope that it's Payne.....or no one will have anything to get all in a twist about
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I can tell by your post
that you didn’t read his post. post his college salary when you find out!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
I think it is laudable
that he wants to play Kentucky. That’s just plain competitive spirit. And it would be interesting for Kentucky to develop a rivalry with someone from the west coast.
What I think is lamentable is that so many people seem to find the trash talk, and worse, acceptable behavior. He’s young; I can accept that to some point. But it used to be that people were more aware of how their public expressions reflected on themselves, their family and their community.
Young people will go over the line due to immaturity. Witness DeMarcus Cousins of Kentucky while playing at Mississippi State taunting the fans by making a “phone me” sign (a few days before the game, his phone number were made public by some State fans and he was deluged with calls and texts). While it is understandable (and at one level was quite funny), it was completely inappropriate to interact with the fans in that fashion.
Thomas first tweet was okay. But then to engage in a trash talk exchange via Twitter was a poor choice. What purpose does it serve to actively seek to elicit the worse from people??
My greatest derision though is saved for those who really, really ought to know better. Those who are old enough to qualify as adults and should have enough wisdom to step back and not say mean, nasty things. Attempting to inflate one’s own ego by lashing out at others is a sign of immaturity. Some of the stuff that I see pass through blogs literally frightens me. What would it be like to work with, or live next to, a person who would say some of these things?
The internet doesn’t have to be a large virtual mean bar with crazy drunks looking for fights. The anonymity that the internet affords makes it easy for some to behave very, very poorly.
I’m not about to write things on blog or on Facebook that I would not say in public. I fail to understand how some people can live such a two-faced existence…
Soooooo, let’s give peace a chance! Can’t we all just get along??? :P
you are kidding, right?
after the circus that TJones just put our respective fan bases through … you think that IT’s tweets are trash talking? puh leeeeze. Kentucky hired Calipari knowing full well what kinds of sneers and jokes came along with his reputation.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Well, they absolutely are trash talk (some of them at least). Maybe you think it’s warranted trash talk, but it still is.
Personally, some of it doesn’t sit well with me as a Dawg fan. But to each their own I guess.
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 21, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you recognize that every fanbase has a few lunatics in it. We see more quotes and
print from ours because it is much larger than most of the others. But as a whole, Kentucky fans are not only polite, they are appreciative of other teams and their fans. We could go around all day apologizing for their actions, but it is never going to change anyone’s mind. You must have a few of those around here yourselves…..I believe that Gekko warned me of just such an individual in another post…..you folks have a great program and a great coach, as do we. We are overly enthusiastic about our Cats, many to the point of it being a fault. But almost all are well intentioned. For the few lunatics, we again, apologize. We call it Embracing The Hate.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
(psst: I was talking about Thomas’s trash talk in this post)
by sixsevenfiftysix on May 22, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL. Crazi is indeed a handful among any fanbase.
BTW: it is simultaneously possible to both appreciate Kentucky basketball and to think John Calipari is a slime bag. UK was relevant long before Coach Cal.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Sorry I'm late to the party guys...
For the record, this coming from Crazi, I shoot from the hip, I don’t research, and it is what it is. However I don’t divulge into personal attacks unless I am personally attacke first.
And for the record, these Kentucky fans are jumping on here with their big bad reputation. How many national titles have they won since the mid 90s? How many national championships has Calapari coached his team to? I firmly believe the programs of Ucla, Carolina, Duke, and Indiana are bigger. John Calipari wins recruiting national championships and fails at winning NCAA tournament championships. With that said I would gladly take coach Romar over slimeball Calipari anyday. Until Calipari wins a national championshp, Romar is on the same pedestal as Calipari, minus all the slimeball talk and allegations.
If you think Crazi is a handful among fanbases, how about we get Lear involved too :)
All I saw was purple
Clearly I was mistaken.
I apologize for taking you away from a serious, meaningful conversation.
Welcome to the blogosphere jeffy
If you want a serious, meaningful converstation I suggest you attend church services. Their may be a few rude comments, but for the most part it is merely for entertainment purposes. Kentucky fans are fanatic about their Wildcats and Washington fans are fanatic about their Huskies. We (Kentucky and Washington fans) tend to get a little excited about our programs and at times we may lose our heads- what the hell is wrong with that? This is a well operated and controlled atmosphere to discuss topics. At least nobody is droping F bombs and other four letter words like other sites.
Loosen up fella and join the party.
All I saw was purple
crazi
You are right about your post. I(we) really appreciate this site. Like ASoB it is run right. I can’t stand to go to the sites you memtioned that allow foul language. Ya’ll keep up the good work and we will talk later.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
Keep coming by, uk fans
We love wildcat ball, even if we think you are saddled with a dirtbag coach.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
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