Terrence Jones to sign tomorrow
by kirkd on May 18, 2010 5:18 PM PDT
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The Oregonian is reporting that Terrance Jones will be making his "final" decision tomorrow between Washington & Kentucky. No indication which school it will be, but we can hope the same factors that caused him to pick up the Washington hat at his press conference will still prevail, i.e. staying close to his family so they can see him play regularly and continuing to play with his buddy Terrence Ross. And maybe he's spooked by all the Calipari to the NBA rumors...
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I'd have to say it's 75% to UW at this point...
as he’s given no indication otherwise. That said, I won’t feel comfortable until he’s in class or an NLI is in.
A few people on the Dawgman boards are claiming that Jones was spotted on campus today with Romar. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll sign with the Huskies – it might be that Jones was giving Romar the courtesy of an in-person, last-minute pitch on why he should come here.
It sure would be nice if this was resolved one way or the other tomorrow…
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Deja Vu
Doesnt it feel like we have done this before? ;)
Good luck guys! I really think this one will turn out the same way as before. I’ll honestly just be glad to have it over and decided.
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by kentuckygirl0724 on May 19, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions
I think everyone will be glad for this debacle to be over with
No matter which way he goes, both teams have had great recruiting classes. Best of luck this season (except for in Maui!).
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 19, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They play each other in Maui?
I’ll be sure to attend that :)
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on May 19, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the Maui Invitational
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 19, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Knowing that the Huskies will be at the Maui Invitational, I was already warm on the idea of attending it.
Now that I know that they’ll play them there, I won’t miss it in person. :)
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on May 19, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Any idea what time...
..he’s going to decide?
by doubledeucedawg on May 19, 2010 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
Sheesh!
Is this thing gonna ever get resolved!
by doubledeucedawg on May 19, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions
Well, good for Jones that it is over.
He made his choice, and I sure don’t envy what he had to go through. Congratulations to UK.
Golden!
Is it really over??
I hate to be the bad guy, but from what I’m reading he didn’t sign a LOI. Meaning, there is nothing binding him to UK. It’s been quite obvious from the begining, this kid doesn’t know what he wants and isn’t ready to make a firm decision yet.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Agree with Lear
And not that I am bashing the kid, because that is unethical in terms of student-athletes. But it seems as if this kid doesn’t really know what he wants, thus might not be the greatest decision maker, which in turn might lead to immature behavior. Again not bashing nor piling on, just wondering where this kids head is at.
I just hope we can finally move beyond the Terrance Jones discussions…
All I saw was purple
At this point I think it’s much less about not making a firm decision and mostly about leaving himself an “out” in case Calipari heads to the NBA.
That said, I’m not sure he’d come to the UW in that case – I think he’s burned too many bridges here. Not necessarily with Romar (though who knows), but more the fan base. He would get a tepid reaction at best from many, and he would be vilified if/when he struggled.
I would guess that if Calipari bolts to the NBA and Jones decides to head elsewhere, it’ll be to Oregon.
He didn't sign a financial aid package with UW. He signed one with UK.
What does that tell you?
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on May 20, 2010 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions
See that's just it
Why are these kids signing on with Sleezeball Calipari given his track record and the ultimate thought that the Chicago Bulls might offer him something he can’t refuse.
If Terrance Jones was all that, then don’t you think it would be in his best interest to pursue a school that wants him, where the coach will be there the entire length of his college career? My god kid, make a decision and stick to it. This isn’t sour apples, honestly when Jones had that debacle of a press conference and then immediately grabbed his cell phone, you could sense this kid’s head was all over the place. We don’t need that. Make a firm decision so that this doesn’t become a distraction for the basketball team. No Jones is fine with me.
On the other hand I think he’d look better in a Beaver uniform then a duck uni.
All I saw was purple
It tells me Jones thinks he's one and done.
by Brian Floyd on May 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
And if that’s the case Kentucky can have him. I don’t want one and doners, because when you get one of these kids, the season becomes all about you and not we.
I would never grab a one and doner. How many one and doners have won the national championship? When it’s all said and done you still need a core team compiled with upper classmen, who understands the nature of the beast, and has a sense of urgency. A one and doner can and most often will just shrug if off. We’ve seen it time and again, the last perfect example was the 09 Kentucky squad. Had all that talent and did nothing with it, players shrugged it off and are now off to the NBA.
All I saw was purple
If winning championships is the only way you judge success
Well that’s pretty dumb. But Carmelo Anthony and Marvin Williams both won titles as one and dones.
Derrick Rose didn't shrug anything off
Neither did Kevin Love.
Georgia Tech made the NCAA’s this year because of Derrick Favors.
DeMar DeRozan was pivotal getting USC an auto bid to the NCAA’s.
Tyreke Evans carried Memphis for an entire year.
One and dones have almost always proven to be positives for teams. We would have been better with Jones than without him: that is unarguable. Without him that scholly just goes to waste.
The entire Kentucky team this year
OJ Mayo also carried USC to the NCAA tournament
Wait, the record book says otherwise. ZING!
by Brian Floyd on May 20, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
How many one and doners have won the national championship?
First one that comes to mind is Carmelo Anthony.
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You guys are giving me one example?
That’s it? One kid … ever? I don’t want to get into this because it’s sort of rediculous. But I would take a team composed of mostly upper classmen over a team of snot nosed freshman any day.
The goal is winning championships. The sport has evolved, I get it. I think the bigger question we should be discussing is why have we allowed this phenomena to occur in the first place? I loved college basketball when the superstars stuck around campus longer in order to win or have a chance to win the national tournament. The Freshmen phenom/one and done era sucks!
All I saw was purple
It's ridiculously hard to win a national title and luck does play in to it.
One and done’s are also a fairly new phenomenon, with there being a small sample of NCAA tournaments since the rule was enacted.
So yes, Carmelo Anthony being one in a 5 year sample size is significant. What you should look at is what thecassino pointed out. National titles aren’t the only measure of success.
by Brian Floyd on May 20, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually agree with not wanting Jones on your team. I think his coming to UW would have hurt the development of a number of young guys you already have at his position (not mention shot he would have taken away from other guys).
I think there is a role for one and doners on a college team, but the way UW is constructed and the growth potential of a number of your younger guys would have been set back if they had to play around a one and doner next year.
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Agree
At some point coach Romar would be forced to make a decision on how to incorporate all our kids on the floor. Now coach has done a remarkable job with our perimeter players. But having this problem or at least talking about it means that this program is on the up and up.
I’m not sure, but maybe signing Jones would’ve been more of a recruiting headliner for future recruiting efforts. He is a talent no doubt, but I think we are pretty set down low right now. The key is to contiue working towards player development I think when it all comes down to it, we got the kids that we targeted. I think getting Jones might’ve been the headliner that we could use, but at the same time couldn’t really use.
Furthering the one and done argument, if coaches recruit to hard towards the one and doners then eventually it could kill all moment for the program. Ben Howland comes to mind. Went after too many kids in a few year span and the NBA gobbled them up after only one season. Howland had a tremendous program prime to take the final step towards a national title and all of a sudden GONE! Howland now finds himself starting virtually from scratch. A lesson coach K learned at Duke in the early 2000s. Be weiry of the one and doners…
All I saw was purple
One and dones aren't what hurt UCLA
Kevin Love got them to a Final Four. It was the other kids who didn’t develop that set the program backward. Even if Jrue Holiday had stuck around, last year’s team wouldn’t have been a ton better.
Not buying that
It’s a team game and a team effort. One player doesn’t get you anywhere. Love was great as a freshman, but think how great he would’ve been as an upper classman. Love doesn’t do anything if Shipp and Collison can’t get him the ball. Nobody developed? Starting with Jordan Farmar count how many kids have left the Ucla program early, it’s rather significant. Meanwhile their nemesis in the tournament was Florida, who had all upperclassmen and won back to back national championships. Again the ultimate goal is to win the national championship and the majority of one and doners have other things on their minds.
All I saw was purple
But you could also factor in...
They wouldn’t have gotten there without Collison’s perimeter play and ball handling skills.
All I saw was purple
Um well a couple of things
- hitting the perimeter shot consistently opens thing down low for Love.
- getting the ball into Love down low and in the right position will boost his point totals and scoring average.
Love was a great freshman player and he played fairly dominant until he faced future NBA low post players from Florida. All of a sudden Love was a non factor in the Florida game and his NBA game really hasn’t taken a big step forward yet either. Maybe, just maybe Love looked better as a freshman because Collison made him look good in key situations.
My point is, one player doesn’t necessarily make a team. Jordan couldn’t win a championship until Pippin arrived and Pippin couldn’t win a championship after Jordan left. Team game cassinon and I’ll take experience over athletism every day!
All I saw was purple
Can you explain the other 3?
Ucla went to 3 consecutive Final Fours, the last coming while Love was a true freshman. How do you explain the other two Final Four appearances minus Love? Gotcha :)
All I saw was purple
You're right, it had to all be Collison
Or if you look at the numbers and notice Love’s top 15 Offensive efficiency, offensive rebounding and defensive rebounding that may have something to do with it. Or maybe Afflalo and Farmar helped just a wee bit those other two years.
Okay, let's end this
I agree Love was a very talented player and I did like all those Ucla teams. Agree to disagree because this thread is argumentative at best. I’m not saying experience is everything. Surely you have to have talent, coaching, bench, abiltiy to play in different tempos to win it all. I am not sold that one and doners is enough to get you a national title consistently. the year Syracuse won it with Carmello is the exception. If you look over the course of time teams loaded with experience, talent, coaching, bench play, and the ability to play in different tempos have won their share of national titles. In the end, I am sick of one and doner talk. It’s bad for the sport of college basketball. If you’re looking for the fast lane to the NBA, point blank: I’m not sure I want you on our team.
All I saw was purple
Who would Jones have blocked? The way the roster was shaping up, he had a clear path to starting from day 1 at the 4 spot. Now we’re probably looking at some combination of MBA, N’diaye, Breshears, Gant and Simmons to split the 4 & 5 minutes.
Hold on kirkd
MBA could take a huge step forward this season. Without a ddoubt will be the guy the ball goes into now that QPon has graduated Bringing in N’diaye offers us a huge presence and if Gant works hard on his ball handling skills over the offseason, N’diaye might take a lot of focus off both MBA and Gant, who could take their games even higher.
All I saw was purple
That’s all true, but the fact remains that Jones, if he’s as good as his hype, would’ve been the clear starter at the 4, with MBA at the 5 and N’diaye backing him up and Breshears backing up both spots along with Gant, and Simmons getting some time at the 4 in addition to backup up at the 3.
Now by default it seems likely that Romar is going to put out some bigger lineups with MBA playing alongside N’diaye and Breshears, unless Gant takes a big step forward.
Understand, but I think you're missing the point
The one and doners these days views college basketball as the final step to reaching the NBA. They dream of millions of cash, mansions, cars, girls, shoe contracts, prime time slam dunk contests, and the NBA Finals. To the one and doners that is the ultimate goal to achieve.
Many times while watching the touranment the camera switches to the bench of the team that is seconds away from losing in the NCAA tournament. Many kids that do not have the talent to move onto the NBA are emotional with tears. But to the one and doner, not so much- the big prize is finally awaiting them. Losing in the NCAA tournament means that they’re done with college basketball and a NBA lottery pick is only a few months away. It’s shrugged off more then you know!
All I saw was purple
Most college basketball players want to get to the NBA
And most go as soon as they know they’ll be drafted. Just because more talented players can get there faster doesn’t mean that they care less.
Oh they care less
It means that they have a lengthy multi millon dollar career waiting for them the very moment they hire an agent, if they haven’t already (hint … hint).
96% of all college basketball players realize they don’t have a shot at making a pro roster, thus the national championship is the goal. But to the one and doner, it’s only the beginning…
All I saw was purple
Win yes!
But it’s not the lose all – end all as it is to 96% of all college basketball players. Get it? To most college basketball players their careers are over the very moment they lose in the tournament. Welcome to the real world fellas. The one and doner get to carry out their fantacy basketball world for another 15 years. Sure they’re sad, but for how long are they sad? I’ll bet the Kentucky freshman squad was probably only sad for a few hours if that. And moments after they’d lost their families were probably on the phone interviewing prospective agents. Get it?
All I saw was purple
One and dones are bad for basketball because they're not sad for long enough.
I have no idea where you get this stuff.
Honest Question
So say Washington is presented with the opportunity to sign a class loaded with talent knowing that there is the potential of a few one and doners… You tell them “No Thanks,” ??
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 20, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol!
Fari enough.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 21, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys are living in a vacume...
The one and doners would rather go straight to the NBA! It has been well publicized and scrutinized for the last few years guys. What part of this don’t you understand. The college basketball sport does not have the spark it once owned.
BMoney of course I am not on the stafff- funny ha! ha! Coach is going to go after top recruits just lik anybody else. We’ve gotten to the Sweet 16, but we are one piece away to making a stronger push to the Final Four. Caliapari has gobbled up tons of one and doners, how many national championships does he own? Thought so. It takes a nucleus of upper classmen to get it done (pefect example: 2009/10 Duke).
All I saw was purple
dawg
“Caliapari has gobbled up tons of one and doners,” Up until this year he had only had 2 leave after one year!
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
True
It still takes a nucleus of upper classmen to win it all. Carolina had tones of young talent, but couldn’t win it all until that class was upper classmen. And who’s to say that Calipari will be around Lexington next season? I’m betting he won’t. Why else would Jones not sign a letter of intent with Kentucky?
All I saw was purple
No, no it doesn't
Duke had 2 years of average experience, Butler had just over one and was one of the youngest teams in the nation.. Talent is talent.
by Brian Floyd on May 25, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Please, why bring facts into this discussion when blanket assertions will do just fine.
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I'm an opinion blogger
I thought you knew that Matt Daddy? If you want facts I suggest you pick up your local newspaper or go on line to read credible related topics, yet I’m sure you’d find plenty of opinion writers there too. Factual material is useful but boring [yawn]. I prefer reading about someone’s opinon and popularity has nothing to do with it. That is what I provide. You want stats, facts, and boring dialogue I suggest you process it or find someone to process it for you. I’m Crazidawg remember?
All I saw was purple
I have no problem with you Crazi. Just make sure to continue to not let facts get in the way of your “opinions”.
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I'll keep that in mind
And it’s okay to occasionally remind me of that. If I were up in the booth, I am the guy doing the colorful commentary. I’m the guy talking nonsense. I don’t do play-by-play. Please keep that in mind the next time you read something posted from crazidawg.
All I saw was purple
Who cares?
The goal for any highly talented players is to reach the NBA.
Fact is, nearly half the time since the rule was enacted, a team with a one and done kid wins a title. Winning a title is a big deal and I could care less if a player is using the NCAA as a means to an end, which most are.
by Brian Floyd on May 20, 2010 1:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Would you care to elaborate on which one and doners those were...
… that led their teams to the NCAA national title? You already gave me Melo. I would imagine that Magic Johnson would headline your list over Melo, simply because he has 5 NBA rings to Carmello’s none. Waiting for you list…
All I saw was purple
I thought Magic won the title over Bird in 79 as a freshman, while Bird was a junior.
But if the ultimate goal is winning the national championship then you have to discuss the phenomena of the one and doner and how it can effect your program both positively or negatively. My vote is for the later…
All I saw was purple
Probably also that UW's chances of landing him are also over.
And probably also that the recruitment of Terrence Jones by any school is also over.
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on May 20, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a comment
I’m here as a friend! The one and done was created by the NBA agreement. The players ass. was tired of high school kids coming in to take their jobs. It is hoped that this years agreement will at least move the age up one year. Lots of people have come out for this change. I like your site. You have structure and control. I visit many places where foul language is the norm. Keep up the good work!
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Also have to consider the commisioner's side as well
The front office was tired of the “no rules apply” concept that the players were engaged in. The hip hop generation looked horrble in press conferences and the league’s front office wanted to change the image of the league. It was turning off television across the nation, which was destroying the advertisment dollars the NBA could sell. Image is everything! And the NBA was going down the wrong street in the wrong neighborhood. Stern involked professional attire for traveling and press conferences. I’ve never been a big fan of Stern. I think his league is in the fix. However I do like the direction of the NBA these days. The hip hop NBA was a lousy sport and noboby tuned in for it. Since then Stern has distanced himself and the owners from high school gyms and have the players looking professional. That’s a good start, now let’s increase the age limit to two years removed from high school. Doing so will help the college game in return will push the image of professionalism in the NBA back to where it belongs during the Bird/Johnson era. That was the NBA I liked and watched.
All I saw was purple
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