Elston Turner Jr. Is Transferring
by thecassino on Apr 15, 2010 11:01 AM PDT
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The clutch postseason player has decided that he wants to play for a school where he can be a more central player, so he's taking his services elsewhere. He arrived on campus at the same time as fellow shooting guards Isaiah Thomas and Scott Suggs, and was behind Thomas from the get-go. With Suggs developing and C.J. Wilcox coming off of his redshirt while every other guard on the roster returns, it didn't seem likely that Turner would be getting more minutes than he received last year.
Turner was pivotal in the Huskies' comeback against Oregon State, scoring 10 points, keeping the game from getting too out of hand in the first half, then making the three pointer that gave the Huskies the lead for good. Without him in that game there's a very good chance that the Huskies would have missed the NCAA's entirely, much less made a run to the Sweet-16. In the NCAA's, he scored 14 against Marquette and 10 against New Mexico, and was among the team's best players in the tourney.
Best of luck in the future, and thanks for your two seasons as a Husky.
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TOUGH SITUATION
We can only wish Elston the very best and hope to follow his career.
He was a good player but got caught up in the numbers game.
I hope Lorenzo takes all this into account and future LOIs can stick around and graduate.
Truly sad situation!!!!
It's part of the game
It’s not something you really take into account in recruiting
by Brian Floyd on Apr 15, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
And if so
That would indicate to me that it’s more of a playing time issue, and not a scholarship issue.
It’s a bummer in the sense that Turner was really coming on as a player for us, but it also is understandable when you consider the glut of shooting guards on the team: IT, Suggs, Wilcox.
If Wilcox is really the shooter everyone makes him out to be, he’s going to command minutes, and Suggs also improved a lot last year – there was going to be a minutes crunch this year. Hopefully Suggs and/or Wilcox can also provide improved defense, because that’s where I thought Turner was going to have an edge.
On the positive side, we now know how Romar would fit in Jones or Ross if they sign…
He doesn’t necessarily have to. I haven’t seen anything that leads me to believe that Ross and Jones are without question a package deal. It might happen, but it might not.
And even if they are and they both sign with the UW, I’ve heard a lot of rumbling that Ross is iffy to qualify, and Jones as well (though less so).
They have said they're not a package deal
Just that it would be cool to play together, but they each are planning on doing what’s best for themselves.
Turner's Quote:
“I’ve been thinking about it for a couple of months now and me and my dad we’ve been talking back and forth. We just came to the conclusion that me as an individual being here is slowing up my development in showing everybody my overall game, not just my shooting game. We felt like being here, the situation I’m in I couldn’t really get into a groove to show my all-around game.”
Reading between the lines, he wants the ball in his hands more, and with Thomas being as ball dominant as he is, that wasn’t going to happen at UW.
"I couldn't... show my all-around game."
He was showing a much better all-around game as the season advanced, and I think he would of been a major presence had he stayed.
On the other hand, Suggs was diminishing a bit at the end as Turner’s star was on the rise—I hope that he can now step it up.
YES
More room for scholarships.
I think he may be bad for the team as i hear that no one likes him
It's a shame, I was really looking forward to seeing Elston's game continue to improve
I wish him luck wherever he ends up going, Vandy or elsewhere.
I'm speechless ... not really
Major blow! I mean MAJOR. Elston was the only guy we had that could consistently knock down the perimeter. Now his ball handling needed much improvement and once the tournament started, I thought Elston showed a lot of improvement in that category.
But what does this do for our perimeter play next season? I realize we are loaded at the two guard positions, but I honestly thought Turner would receive a lot more minutes minus QPon.
About the only good thing that can come from this is that we fill Turner’s scholarship with another blue chip player for the future. I’m utterly shocked! Wish you well Elston, I’ll be rooting for you in the SEC as long as the Huskies don’t play Vanderbilt in the tournament.
All I saw was purple
I’m a lot less concerned about replacing Turner’s outside shooting – Suggs was better IMO and supposedly Wilcox is the best shooter on the team. Where Turner’s loss will hurt is his defense and his ball-handling – he was superior to Suggs in both of those areas IMO.
If Wilcox is the shooter everyone is hyping him to be, he’s probably going to grab most of Turner’s vacated minutes…
Turner or Suggs?
Turner’s minutes were expanded in the tournament, while Suggs minutes deminished. Maybe it came down to one aspect. Turner wasn’t going to be happy in his limited role and quite possibly Suggs was/is content.
I still think Suggs can get more minutes if he follows Holiday’s game plan for getting minutes on the floor. Become a go-to defender. When you become a go-to defender their comes a time when their simply is no denying you playing time. Happened to Holiday and now is a regular. Not to mention but it assisted him greatly in his confidence.
All I saw was purple
I still think Suggs can get more minutes if he follows Holiday’s game plan for getting minutes on the floor. Become a go-to defender. When you become a go-to defender their comes a time when their simply is no denying you playing time.
Totally agree. That said, Holiday was always known as a defensive player. Hopefully Suggs really focuses on the defensive end, because he’s got a world of potential – I don’t think we’ve seen a lot of what his game could be yet…
Agreed
On the part of Suggs. Yes Holiday had skills to be good defensively. Speedy, length, hops, and arm reach. I think Sugss has those attributes too. He’s got great arm reach, almost as good as Holiday’s. I think he needs to rethink his approach a tad while on the floor. Still want him to keep knocking down from the perimeter, but put more emphasis on defense and his minutes will go up.
All I saw was purple
Many people have the skillset/build to be great defenders
Rarely do they have the desire or proper mentality; Holiday has always had it. Suggs is still an offensive player first and I too wish he’d adopt Holiday’s approach —I just doubt he will.
Can be taught
Many NBA all stars were huge offensive players. But some were traded to play next to guys like Michael Jordan and Kobi Bryant. Instead of being a scorer, they changed their games to be the go-to defender. It’s just a matter of mind set.
All I saw was purple
Kind of a surprise thought Suggs was going to be the transfer Wisconsin was on him out of high school and they have a difficult time scoring 60 a game and there recruiting class is nothing to write home about. This probably allows Suggs to get 20 min a game this next year. Not to sure Jones goes to Kentucky with Kanter looking to get the minutes but I would have to thnk UW 60/40 chances to sign him Oklahoma is a mess with early draft types and tiny Gallon taking 3 grand from a booster. UW is so deep if Jones signs.
Bench
C Aiziz
PF Breshers/Gant
SF Trent
SG Suggs/Wilcox
PG Overton
Have to think UW bench is better than 60% of pac 10 starting 5’s.
Keep em' happy
We can’t afford to miss tournaments in the future. This thing is really starting to pick up steam. I sure as hell didn’t want to lose Elston, yet if we can fill his scholarship with a blue chip kid then it will probably provide us immediate help next season and quite possibly a key player for the future. But we have to keep our kids happy or more No.2s will look elswhere.
All I saw was purple
If we can get to the point where making the tournament is the rule and missing it is a major let-down, we’ll definitely have arrived. Given how much local H.S. and AAU ball has blossomed in the last decade+, I see no reason that the UW can’t be a consistent top-25 and tournament team capable of making a run at a Final Four when things click…
UW's future
I mostly agree – but UW will have to start getting more consistently in on recruits like Charles Garcia and Terrence Jones. We have depended a lot on underdog guards (N-Rob, Conroy, Appleby, Overton, IT) and development projects on the frontline over the past several seasons.
This year both UW and Cal benefited from the fact that UCLA and UA were down. Those two plus USC tend to consistently line up the kinds of players that are both loaded with talent and have the physical attributes to dominate.
Our small ball game is a nice shtick, and Romar should be lauded for consistently maximizing what he’s got, but we can’t stay perched in our position without continuing to upgrade our talent and refine our style.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Well, shorter guys are far more plentiful than taller guys. We’ve done pretty well at recruiting local stud kids – BRoy, Webster, Hawes, Gaddy. Obviously we didn’t get them all, but few do in basketball. As long as we do pretty well locally, we’ll have a strong base to build off of. And continued success will continue to help us recruit effectively throughout the West.
One thing that helps us in competition with UCLA is that our styles of play are so different – kids that would rather play a more uptempo, less structured game are going to think twice about playing for Howland and cast their eyes North to the UW. Now, if USC starts establishing themselves as a real alternative in terms of style to USC, that could change things, but for now I think we’re in a good position to potentially supplant Arizona as the “other” big Pac-10 basketball program.
Heard a rumor
That Josh Selby and C.J. Leslie are both Kentucky bound. Not entirely shocking if true. Probably helps us signing Terrence Jones because Leslie plays very similar to Jones and is a higher rated recruit.
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