Looking back at the one's who got away
Every single year you end up looking back one more time at some of the kids you missed on. This year was exceptional for the kids we did get and the one's we were still in on come January. It just shows you the type of progress this program has made in a little over a year with Steve Sarkisian at the helm.
QB - Jake Heaps...This one hurts the most because he was the local kid who ended up being rated the top HS QB in the country this past season. In reality Jake was lost way before Steve Sarkisian ever set foot in Seattle. Heaps was not impressed with the program or the players on the current roster. Former coach Ty Willilingham wasn't on him early despite the fact that his son went to the same HS and that was another huge problem. In the end Sark rallied enough to pull Washington into the #2 position but the relationship he built with the staff at BYU over the past three years was impossible to overcome.
Washington did end up with a pretty good QB in Nick Montana. From a national standpoint that verbal garnered more of an impact because his dad after all is Joe Montana. Having that family hanging around Montlake for five years won't be a bad thing. Oh...by the way...Nick outperformed Jake when they played against each other earlier this year. May have been the first time that Husky fans cheered for a California HS program when they were playing a Washington HS program.
RB - Jordon James...He visited early in the season but never really considered Washington. It was down to UCLA and California and he ended up picking the Bruins. UW more than made up for it by signing Cooper and Callier.
WR- Tevin Carter...He committed to Washington early on and his ratings went through the roof this past spring. his parents were uncomfortable with him leaving the state so he changed his commitment to California. UW kept working him but his parents never budged.
WR - Keanon Lowe...He verbaled early when Oregon wasn't recruiting his as a WR. He had a very strong season at Jeshuit HS in Portland and when Oregon struck out on some national recruits they came calling in the last weeks of January. When he decided to visit Oregon the Huskies didn't wait for the outcome...they decided to look elsewhere.
OL - Nick Rowland...He is probably the best lineman in the West this year and UW had a very good shot at him because of a good relationship he had with Dan Cozzetto. UW would have loved to have had Rowland but they more than made up for it with a very strong OL class.
OL - Kody Innes...He visited early but we heard reports that Washinton didn't pursue him very hard which happens. Sometimes you just like other players better. Maybe rather than being a miss he was simply a pass at the time. He ends up being one of two OL recruits in the UCLA class.
DT- Kerifi Taula...This one went back and forth till almost signing day. We all know the story and Kerifi is now a Wildcat. He will be remembered for this one single quote after he verbaled to UW..."I am a man of my word".
DT- Ricky Heimuli...UW had the last visit but Ricky was a student of the depth charts. Chances are he wasn't going to start right away at Washington. He also may have ended up behind Sione Potoae who had a better showing in all star game workouts. He ended up picking Oregon who had more of the immediate need. If you are a Husky you wish he had stayed home at Utah.
DE - Kona Schwenke...This was a strange saga because he never ended up visiting because he simply ran out of time after BYU dropped him for the dalliance with Notre Dame. He wanted to sign after LOI day and visit UW but the Irish told him sign or we will take someone else. He did the smart thing and signed with ND.
LB - Josh Shirley... Everyone held their breath when it came time for him to select the hat on Wednesday. I was pretty surprised that he picked UCLA after word got out that Owa was going there. In the end the desire to stay home was too much to overcome. Neuheisel said he had been a secret commit for a few weeks.
LB - Hayes Pullard...Holt and Sark really wanted this kid but it became apparent early in January that it would come down to USC or UCLA. Like shirley he decided there was no place like home.
CB - Troy Hill...Washington was the early leader but once he saw the facilites at Oregon he became all Duck. Gregory Ducre is a great pick up but UW would have loved to have have had another top rated CB in the class.
CB - Josh Shaw...Josh had an unofficial to Washington if memory serves me correctly but once he became a national recruit he decided between Florida and Ohio State. He is going to be a Gator the next four years.
CB - Demetrius Wright...Another early visitor who was intrigued by Washington because of the coaching staff but decided to stay close to home at USC.
S - Derrick Malone...Washington was all over him but he picked Oregon. In the end that worked out fine because Sean Parker who they didn't have much of a shot at during that early period was a higher rated talent. It did have an impact though because it led to UW losing kicker Alejandro Maldonado to the Ducks.
K- Alejandro Maldonado... Sark wasn't happy at all when he flaked out and switched to Oregon last week. Sark reportedly wasn't shy about expressing his displeasure on the phone with Alejandro. The one saving grace here is Washington doesn't really need a kicker for two more years.
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We got a great class coming in
But I’m still a little apprehensive about our current LB positions. If the NCAA doesn’t grant EJ another year of eligibility then we are in a pickle.
We addressed key areas on the O line, D line, secondary, and we got great offensive skill guys across the board. But did we address the LB unit enough? Some of the guys we recruited at LB might be projects to some degree and some might be academic casualties by the time they are ready.
We lost Butler this last season. EJ either this last season or possibly next season. Foster? Is he a senior or a junior next season? Dennison is coming in as a junior if my memory serves me correctly due to him be a JC. We have Tim Tucker coming in soon after a redshirt season, but is Tuck going to be enough and is he going to be ready to step in?
I think the one area we sort of missed the boat on might be at LB. Pullard and Shirley both had great relationships with Holt and I thought maybe that might be the key to getting them in here. Turns out it wasn’t enough. I just hope we’ve recruited the LB positions very well. Because if we didn’t, then we are looking at a real big void on the defense in a season or two.
All I saw was purple
Foster is a senior and cort played well when he was in for EJ. He could move to mike like butler did and wallace is coming back stronger this year and will be our leo.
We’ll be adequate at lb. But when you try to figure a strong 6 man rotation on the dl it’s a bit more hairy.
by PandG on Feb 5, 2010 7:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
When do we find out about EJ?
With EJ we should have no drop off in LB production. Without EJ could be a serious problem.
All I saw was purple
Someone said...
…that it could be Friday (today?).
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Don't be suprised....
….if some of these recruits move to other positions. Kearse could be a WR, a Safety or even a linebacker. He has the frame to grow into the linbacker position. Chris Young another player who could play Safety or linebacker besides RB. One of the really good things about Sark and company is they recognize their players talents and can move them when and if needed. Case in point was the few defensive lineman they moved to Offense this past season (with good results). They moved some WR to Defensive back positions etc. I think they will have a few suprises for us down the road as far as where some of these guys end up playing.
Young will start at LB – that’s what Sark and Cox said Wednesday. He could end up at RB, but I’m betting he sticks at LB.
Kearse will get his first shot at S, but wouldn’t surprise me if he ended up at WR. And yeah, he might have the frame to grow into a LB.
We’ll see how Timu’s knee injury recovery goes, but he could be a S or CB, or possibly WR.
Stevenson will start at S, but could move to WR.
Callier will start at RB, but he could end up at CB.
Waters will probably be a LEO-style OLB, but he could become a true DE.
Pelluer will start at LB, but could end up as a DE.
Williams is another guy that probably starts as a LEO-style OLB, but could grow into a true DE.
Don't worry about the linebackers....quite yet...
Victor Burnett looks to be a spring/summer weight program …and a summer of playbook study away from jumping in to the fray quite possibly! Add a very good Dennison (Junior) Mason Foster (Senior) Darius Waters..?.Chris Young…?Fuimaono..?.plus (hopefully!) another year of E.J.? and a surprise riser..?.I think it’ll work out fine! That said…..I just downed a quad shot of Starbucks “Homer Blend”!
in the end it is what it is
It’s the players choice and ultimately we want the program to sell itself. I feel the coaches have done that well and there is every confidence everyone will be coached up to the their highest level of ability.
That can’t be said at other schools. In this area OSU, Stanford and U$C are our real competition.
And there is a grey cloud over $C. What Shantrell did was very smart by hedging his bet. But only a handful of recruits can do that.
The biggest surprise was Shirley to UCLA. I think he was really confused at the end.
We are fine, sure I would of liked to get more de’s but the pickings were slim. I think Hartvigson could still get a look there, but prolly not w/o Sefarin-Jenkins committing. Why he doesn’t want to go to TE U is beyond me.
by PandG on Feb 5, 2010 7:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
It's the nature of the beast
Sometimes you get your kid, sometimes you don’t, sometimes they are stolen out from under you, and sometimes you allow a kid to decommit so that you can pursue another kid with a higher ceiling, when at first you weren’t in on.
Nothing new this offseason involving all the above. It happnes every offseason to everybody. This was a HUGE class when you consider where we’ve been!
All I saw was purple
Jenkins has been reported
as really wanting to leave the area. My dad lives in Gig Harbor, and after 18 years I might want out as well. In fact I was so desperate to leave when I was that age that I moved to gasp Eugene and then Salem.
Here's another...
…way to look at this. Who are you going to give up in order to get this guy on board? Granted we had a bunch of scholies to give but of all the guys that signed, you have to lose a kid to sign someone else.
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I can think of...
any of twenty-five guys I’d swap out for Shirley or Heaps. Its not like all these guys are valued equally.
We had a lot...
…of in state linebackers and we’re always going to lock those guys up first.
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Heaps hurt ...
… but, to me, he was third most painful loss. Though he was the top QB in the nation, he always had a strong connection to BYU and, given the opening, had a chance to start all four years there. Thus, we were slight underdogs all around. The two that I’d rather have were Rowland (how nice would it have been to add him with Kohler?) and Wright (we need killer corners!) given the fact that we had a legit shot at them and their positions are those in need.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Hurt? Not so much
I think we got the right kids. Why fret about Rowland? We signed 7 O lineman. The kid that has me thinking is James Atoe. Why did we offer a kid and sign a kid when the next biggest offer he was getting was from Idaho?
Is there something about him that nobody really sees? Is his potential thru the roof? If there is a sleeper out there then his name might be on the list, because he came from nowhere and we nabbed him quickly right before L.O.I. Day. It’s obvious somebody was trying to keep something quiet in relation to this The Dalles, OR phenom.
I thought we recruited very well at every position on both sides of the ball. But I am hesitant in how effectively we went after LBs. Will these LB commits step up? I can’t say that with a certain degree of confidence at this point. And the reason I am aknowledging this issue is due to our depleting LB numbers. Last season our LB corps was awesome, but their is a sign of lack of depth in that unit- so did we recruit this unit enough for the future?
All I saw was purple
If you read Condotta or anything else written about Atoe, it’s clear that Sarkisian and Co. have wanted this kid at UW since he was in their camp last year. They think he has great potential. Sark even said in his press conference he as the potential to be a top-5 draft pick.
He’s from a small town and by not offering him early, he drew no attention from anyone else. If they had offered, WSU and the Oregon schools would have been on him like white on rice.
Why open up the recruiting competition if you don’t have to?
Atoe's recruitment is very interesting to me
With the way this one played out, basically what Sark is saying is “we uncovered every rock whereas others (i.e. Ore, OSU, WSU) did not look under….and we found a hidden gem which we wanted to hide from you.”
If he works out, it speaks volumes to Sark and company’s work ethic, thoroughness, and ability to see potential and project future talent….
NeuroDawg...Right On!!!
At the signing day celebration Sark spoke about athletes who are athletic and Sark spoke about Atoe being in that classification. Lot of the athletes signed are cross over athletes. They play both Football, Basketball or Baseball. NeuroDawg is right…Why open up the recruiting competition if you don’t have to?
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by bigdawgdaddy999 on Feb 5, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
WRESTLING
is probably the #1 second sport. Remember Donnie Moore. Track and field and soccer are great too.
No way it's wrestling.
Track number one, basketball number 2.
Every speed/skill guy was a superstar on the track field, and almost every WR was a basketball stud, be it at point or the wing.
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 5, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think being a basketball player is much more indicative of how good an athlete one is
Any lineman can throw, and any back can sprint. I’d much rather have a basketball player, especially if it is a lineman (a la Atoe).
Depennds on the position...
If your playing on the line wrestling would probably be #1. If your playing a skill position then track or basketball would be #1
From my experience as a teacher/coach...
I bet less than 25% of linemen also wrestle, particularly when it comes to the true heavyweight sized guys that are D1 linemen. There isn’t anyone for them to wrestle.
I bet over 25% or so of them did do the shotput/discuss though…
As for skill position type guys (QB, RB, WR, LB, S, DB) I’d say 33% play hoops, 65% letter in track and 25% play baseball, and maybe 20% wrestle.
I am biased being that I was a hoops coach, but still I see far fewer wrestler-combo athletes than the other sports.
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 7, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Tell me how u feel in 2 years
Getting the “right” kids implies getting Sark"s first choice. I like the class, but there’s no need to rationalize away the guy’s we didnt land. Montana"s wasnt the first choice. With Pullard and Shirley are you still worried about our LB Corps?
The Rationale
I’m not so sure Montana wasn’t the first choice. Granted keeping a kid in state (Heaps) would’ve sent a strong message, but which QB looks more favorable in the pro style offense? Has Heaps been groomed as a pro style QB or does he run more spread stuff?
Nick Montana on the other hand has probably been groomed as a pro style QB his entire life and I for one firmly believe that this kid is going to flourish in a Sark pro style offense. Also it is well-documented that the Sarkisian family and the Montan family goes back beyond the recruitment process.
Price will be in the hunt and I would not be surprised if Price were to beat out Montana, but at this point I think Montana is our future QB until proven on the field.
And no I would not be too worried about our LB depth if we had signed Pullard or Shirley. Yet I do think we have some gems in this class, but I’m not so sure they will have an immediate impact coming in as would Pullard or Shirley could’ve provided. Couple that with a final thought that the NCAA might decline EJ a medical redshirt.
For the future we’re going to land big time LBs, as we did this offseason, I’m confident in that. But a little apprehensive about what we may or may not have this next season.
All I saw was purple
THE GAME IS WON IN THE TRENCHES
and the biggees they brought in on the O Line will help any QB, indeed the whole team will get better. That is the hilite of this recruiting season. Something USC never understood until Carroll came along and Neuie and several other teams have still not figured out as JB pointed out.
You need four O and D lineman EVERY YEAR.
When the Colts signed Peyton they immediately went for the top O Line and it has paid off big time. He rarely gets sacked.
Completely agree Purpledawg
We did a fabulous job recruiting both lines and I agree with the prophecy the game is won in the trenches. But lets examine it a bit further…
In a pass read the D linemen are in pass rush mode, if not in zone blitz scheme. Their job in pass read is to apply pressure to the QB i.e. rush him, make him hesitate, sack, and knock down. I get that part.
But if the read is run, then the D linemen’s primary job is to occupy the opposing O linemen so that the opposing offensive line cannot get a block on our filling LBs. Our D linemen must take on the block, defeat it, meanwhile keeping the anchor foot in their gap assignment. The LBs responsiblity in run read is to fill and make the tackle.
Now all this is highly effective if you have dominating D linemen. So with that said if we can coach up D line kids to their fullest potential then why worry about who plays LB, right? A great D line will make an average LBing corps look all league. So it all boils down to coaching up our kids. We’ve certainly have our work cut out for us, but we have a lot of potential all around.
All I saw was purple
</But if the read is run, then the D linemen’s primary job is to occupy the opposing O linemen so that the opposing offensive line cannot get a block on our filling LBs.blockquote>
Pretty sure Holt runs a 1-gap scheme, which means he wants his d-linemen getting into the backfield. In general your assessment is correct – LB’s are still more likely to be free to make the tackles in a 1-gap as well – but it’s not like a 2-gap scheme where the DL are strictly trying to tie up blockers.
Name how many of the top O-linemen that they drafted?
The high majority of the personnel of the Colts’ O-line during the past 10 years have been mostly players selected in the third round or later.
Also, Peyton Manning makes his line better.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Feb 6, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
True in part about Manning
Any Hall of fame QB is bound to buy time in the pocket. Look at all the great ones. All of them had the ability to shift their feet to avoid a monster DT in their grill, step into the throw and deliver without being touched by the moster DT.
But Manning will be the first to tell you that his protection has been the key to his success and the key to the Colts success.
And pro scouts are not pefect. They can measure physical qualities of a particular player, but they can’t measure the heart of the player and that is where you find most of your players later down the draft.
All I saw was purple
Agree with Carl here.
I don’t disagree with the sentiment that we need to improve the line—I’m very much a win-in-the-trenches guy, but I disagree with the statement that “When the Colts signed Peyton they immediately went for the top O Line and it has paid off big time.”
They didn’t go immediately to improve the line, as if it was the one key… they tried to improve it… and the D… and the skill position players.
I also disagree with the comment that “he rarely gets sacked” because they "immediately improved the OLine. He rarely gets sacked because he goes through progressions faster than any QB in the game today, and he releases the ball so quickly that he doesn’t need a lot of time like a lot of other QB’s do. Peyton would have done just fine this year sack-wise behind Seattle’s line. Probably not as well as he did behind his guys, but it isn’t like Hasselbeck would have only been sacked 13 or even 25 times behind that OL.
Anyway, back to UW— GREAT CLASS, and GREAT OL RECRUITS!!!! :)
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 7, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Nick grew up wanting to play linebacker. He didn't start playing QB until he was like fourteen or fifteen.
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by jazzaholic17 on Feb 6, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
What does that say?
I grew up wanting to carry the football as a runningback, I drempt about it all the while growing up.
I got my first taste of defense and immediately converted to LB and I was good at it! Not sure what you are implying…
All I saw was purple
He's saying that Nick wasn't groomed as a pro style quarterback his whole life.
Talents that I covet:
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by Carl Shinyama on Feb 6, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
When your dad is Joe Montana...
… you have all the intangibles of being a pro style QB. Playing catch with pops in the backyard, do you think Joe corrected his sons on how to properly step into a throw, assisted his sons on proper QB footwork, and how to deliver a tight spiraling ball to the target?
P.S. Carl Shinyama- nice pic!
All I saw was purple
Matt Hasselbeck's dad was a tight end in the NFL
Marques Tuiasosopo’s father was a defensive lineman. Neither played the same position as their fathers. Let us not assume any singular offspring has all the intangibles (or even tangibles, for that matter) that his father has regarding a certain position.
Joe Montana might have helped his son. Then again, he might not have lifted a finger. It’s all speculative.
But what the fact seems to be is that Nick wasn’t groomed to be a pro style quarterback his WHOLE life. That, I think, was the point that jazzaholic17 was trying to make.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Feb 7, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Montana
I heard him interviewed on KJR and it sounded like Joe left his son alone to a degree in order for him to find his own path. I think he may have helped him more during his senior season, I believe he was actually assisting the OC coaching staff that season.
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He was some kind of assistant at Oaks
It’s probably better he wasn’t all over his son and pushing him all his life to be a QB. The pressure to be in that kind of a shadow must be hard to deal with, especially at the same position
Todd Marinovich agrees...
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 9, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don't even need to click the link...
I KNOW you’re talking about the 13 year old in Delaware who verballed with USC.
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Remember Schea Cotton? Another prodigy who never lived up to the hype.
Remember him? He was can’t miss in hoops, and missed. I saw him going over guys and yoking at 13 years old, was like 6’3" 200 at the time, capped out a strong 6’6" and like 230 iirc. He was the best 13 year old I ever saw, complete all round game, smooth, athletic.
Never made the NBA.
I just hate to see this early of an estimation like our boy above. What if his arm never gets stronger? What if as he ages he puts on pounds and gets slower. What if it later turns out he’s a great small college level QB but not elite. All of this now is going to forever be there in the background for him.. ugh.
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 10, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
The Big Unknown in Recruiting.
The biggest unknown factor in the entire recruiting process is the inability to tell if a high school athlete has finished growing/maturing, or still has room to grow/mature.
For instance, how do we know that this 13 year old hasn’t just matured very early as a result, he is already very close to his maximum potential. Compare that with the recruit who still has a lot of growing/maturing left near the end of their high school career, the recruit might not be anywhere close to his maximum potential.
The debate will continue forever, how much potential does any given recruit have. A raw 3 star recruit could easily have more potential and become a much better player, than a 5 star recruit who is near their maximum potential.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
It’s impossible to know if this young QB will actually pan out. But remember this – Steve Clarkson makes a ton of money because parents trust that he’s very good at what he does, and what he does is get his pupils placed at colleges where they can succeed. And it’s not in Clarkson’s best interests to pull fast ones on the coaches he sends his kids to. So if Clarkson thinks this kid is a high level prospect worthy of a USC offer, that says a lot.
Heaps had obvious connections to BYU, but he grew up being a huge Husky fan. It’s great that we ended up with Montana, but losing a guy that is the #1 QB recruit in the country from in-state who also was a huge fan of the program is always going to be a big-time stinger. In the future, I expect Sark to win these kind of recruiting battles – it was Ty’s ineffectiveness as a recruiter that blew our shot at Heaps. Landing Kasen Williams will be the major test for Sark next year on holding on to premium in-state talent.
Face it guys...
Heaps was already a gone to BYU prior to Sark getting here. I don’t think we lost him. I think TW lost him for us. If our program had been up to par, I see Heaps signing with the Dawgs. The leadership wasn’t there from the beginning. Now we have Sark and I believe the ship is sailing in the right direction. I don’t think we lose too many in-state kids from here going forward. Heaps isn’t the only guy TW lost. We also lost Taylor Mays and Johnathan Stewart- I personally think those two losses out weigh the loss of the Heaps sweepstakes. Heaps basically opted for his religion and signed to a school that the church owns and operates. We lost Mays and Stewart to fellow Pac 10 rivals in USC and of all places [gag] oregon. What stings more?
All I saw was purple
Yes, it was Ty that screwed the pooch regarding Heaps. But let’s be clear – he would’ve gone here had there been a better effort on behalf of the program. Ty offered him early, but then basically ignored him, and that was the key. By the time Ty realized that BYU had been working him hard, it was too late. And yet Sark still managed to seriously close the gap.
Losing Mays and Schilling were huge losses too. Mays was a legacy, and Schilling would’ve come here but Ty’s & staff screwed-up. Stewart was pretty much a lost cause, though who knows what would’ve happened had there been a good, stable staff in place leading up through his recruitment.
Sark won’t get all the in-state studs. DJ didn’t get everyone either. He’ll lose out on some studs from Spokane, and there will be a few kids determined to get out of the area and go somewhere else – Austin Sefarian-Jenkins seems like one of those kids.
But if he gets 80-90% of the in-state studs, he’ll be doing what DJ did and what he needs to do, especially if he can continue to grab studs out of Hawai’i and California.
You guys are right...
…Ty really set the program back, yet Sark has done wonders in the short amount of time he’s been on board. GO DAWGS!! The future is bright!
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Well, it’s hard to compete with Stanford for a kid that really values academics. DJ lost some kids to Stanford too. I know that a UW education in general isn’t far behind a Stanford education, but there’s a cache with a Stanford diploma that the UW just can’t match in many people’s minds.
There's coaches that say
They’ve never won a recruiting battle with Stanford. If a kid likes Stanford, then good luck pulling him away. They offer something most schools can’t do. It’s basically an Ivy and is tough to get a kid to come to your school for football when Stanford offers their education and football on the side.
Someone needs to explain to Sefarian-Jenkins
That there’s a huge difference between living at home and going to a school close to home. I grew up fifteen minutes from UW and living on campus I was rarely at home except for a good mom cooked meal. It’s an entirely different world. I think a lot of high school kids think ‘oh, if i go to college near home my parents’ll be on my nuts all of the time’ but really, what are they going to do? Follow you to every class? Once you don’t live at home, it’s different.
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I don’t pretend to know exactly what’s going on with ASJ, but it may be more than just getting out of the house – some kids just want to experience a different part of the country and really shake things up. And I’m sure it’s flattering for him to be getting offers from places like Florida, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. If you were a player, wouldn’t it be tempting to go to Florida?
Sark really needs to sell him on the advantages to staying home and all the goodwill that can create for you for the rest of your life.
Not Gainsville...
Besides Miami (never been but seems to have less backwoods crazies) Florida may be the worst place in America. I’ve been quite a few places and none of them compare with the stupidity of the people in Jacksonville/N. Florida.
I’ve been quite a few places around the US, and in my mind, nothing compares to the Pacific Northwest. Hopefully Austin realizes this a we can keep him home.
I just moved back from Colorado, and I really forgot how much it rains here/is foggy and grey...
I still love it, and appreciate the sun all the more for it when it does come out, but we’re all fooling ourselves if we don’t think college kids aren’t thinking about hot chicks in bikinis on the beach instead of being bundled up in the winter months for nothing but rain…
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by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 7, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
exactly what i'm thinking about now
The coaching staff really has to draw the kids from places like SoCal, Hawaii, etc
Once I visited though, I fell in love with the place. The Rec center, facilities, oh my its amazing
aand the architecture on campus is great
I don't want to start a whole new conflict ...
… but we have to get past this whole Ty thing. You can’t in the same breath not give Ty credit for Locker and then blame him for Heaps. We are all glad he’s gone, but it seems to me that Heaps had many reasons to pick BYU above and beyond whether or not Ty did enough to recruit him. In fact, its kind of laughable to think that somehow Heaps and his family would somehow punish the UW for the transgressions of the coach that they fired if UW was his “first love”. It really makes no sense.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You can’t in the same breath not give Ty credit for Locker and then blame him for Heaps.
Of course I can. Locker was coming here regardless. Yes, Ty deserves some credit in that Locker respected Ty, but like a lot of local kids, Locker was going to go the UW regardless.
Heaps on the other hand wanted to come here, but was shown so much more attention early by BYU that it turned him.
In fact, its kind of laughable to think that somehow Heaps and his family would somehow punish the UW for the transgressions of the coach that they fired if UW was his "first love". It really makes no sense
I really don’t get what your point is here. Heaps wasn’t “punishing” the UW – he simply got a lot more attention from BYU early and built very strong relationships with that staff, and by the time Ty realized his mistake it was too late. Sark made up a lot of ground, but the damage had been done.
Ty can’t get enough scorn for what he did to this program.
Heaps...
…didn’t hurt to me because of the immediate commit of Montana. I think he will ultimately be the better prospect. I guess what hurts is that he’s the #1 propect at the position and he’s in our own backyard. But like someone else said Sark couldn’t catch up that much on years of neglect.
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Well, we’ll see who ends up the better player. I’ll say this – it’s hard to imagine a better consolation pick-up at QB than Montana give the publicity that comes with his name, and the timing was fantastic. Hopefully Nick turns into a real good one, and it’ll be a lot of fun seeing Joe on the sidelines, hopefully as soon as Spring Practices.
Let's not forget, if we didn't get Montana, we don't get Kohler.
Not only that, but getting momentum in recruiting SoCal was way more important this particular year than getting all the local guys.
We got enough locals to prove we’re back, but the inroads (somewhat started by the early Montana firm verbal) really helped build the overall class forward…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 7, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Is Nick a Better fit?
Heaps also had the flu when Skyline played Oaks Christian. I’m sad about losing Heaps, but it’s better to lose him to BYU than to $uC. Also, it’s been said before that Nick is a much better fit for our system.
Losing Heaps hurt, but you can’t convince me that we’ll never see him in purple again; just not on the football field. He’s a Dawg fan and a hometown kid, the BYU situation was just better for him. It would be tough pass up a position where I could immediately start for four years. Then again, I think it would be even tougher to pass up a spot where I could learn under a Heisman trophy candidate quarterback and a proven molder of NFL quarterbacks…
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers, Go Tarheels!
Eh, I think Heaps would’ve had a decent shot at starting 4 straight years here too after redshirting. It’ll be very interesting to track the careers of Heaps vs. Montana.
For sure. The link between the two is HUGE.
Although I wonder if it would have been that way no matter who committed to the Huskies aside from Jake.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers, Go Tarheels!
It would’ve, but it’s extra strong given that it’s Montana. Scroggins would’ve been a great pick-up, but the name factor with Nick really adds something extra. Nick will always get extra media attention simply because of his lineage, and that should end up being a big positive for the program.
Definitely
Although hopefully Montana creates a new ‘Montana’ legacy, if you will.
I guess it was also though because they were really in the same group of QBs nationally. Went to the same camps, teams played each other, that sort of thing. Pretty sweet.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers, Go Tarheels!
Landing Montana...
…also landed us the top OL in Cali. No Montana = No Kohler. Also it will put a huge feather in Sarks cap if Montana is successfull becuse of the name plus the inevitable media coverage it will get.
Great point, and you beat me to it! I posted this up above, but after you...
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by whiskey chainsaw on Feb 7, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
BYU's vs UW's competition....?
No comparison! Heaps will possibly put up some more #s ? but again, maybe not….In the end? We’ll all see….Either way….Dawgs are the better school/program!
PREFERRED WALK-ON
JB- extra points from The (Tacoma) News Tribune Feb 4 issue:
Running back Willis Wilson had offers from… but chose to accept Washington’s invitation as a “preferred walk-on.”
Olympia offensive lineman Drew Schultz did not sign a letter of intent but will be a “preferred walk-on” at the University of Washington.
Please do a new post on “preferred walk-on” as I spotted these two in the small print. How many more are there? Schultz makes eight (8) offensive lineman and there may be more. This was new to me.
Purple, I think I read in Condotta's blog that a DE from Bothell
Evan Hudson also is walking on. He was the bookend to Hartvigson, and not to be confused with A Hudson, the DE from Redlands East Valley, CA also in this class. This Hudson is supposedly 6’6" and his best sport is baseball.
Heaps & Montana.........................
I’ve been saying before either committed that the quarterback of our immediate future is Keith Price.
I still say it.
Mush you Huskies!!! GO DAWGS!!!
Expect to Win!!!
Julious Moore
John – just wondering is there a story about UW losing J Moore DT from Bellevue? Did he sign LOI? If not are we still persuing?
My guess is JC route
I heard he didn’t qualify at Ucla and therefore may opt for the JC route. He’ll probably land at WSU in a couple years, like many do.
All I saw was purple
WSU lost Moore
He has grade problems.
The Tunnel is Hallowed and Sacred Ground
by bigdawgdaddy999 on Feb 6, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll wage that he ends up in a few years in Pullman, could be a pretty special by then.
All I saw was purple
Quite possible it happens
Who knows though. The kid seems like he needs to get his priorities in order and focus on his classwork. Hopefully he figures it out because he’s sure got some talent.
Loosing Heaps vs Getting Montana
Heaps would have been nice, BUT he is guy that likes the spotlight—he milked the KIRO guys on the radio for weeks playing coy even though he was headed for BYU. Montana already knows how to handle the press and is going to be more TEAM orientied. I agree with previous post NO Montana = No Kohler (many say the top OL on the Pacific Coast. Also, Colin Porter commits almost immediately after Montana and says the reason is because we got Montana. We also got a darn good QB in Montana. And the name Montana, WOW!! worth a lot more than heaps.
I think next year, Sark & Co solidify WA & Hawaii, make more inroads into CA and may begin to make a dent into Oregon, as the Yucks pursues their “global” recruiting tactics. They did exactly what was needed this year — OL and DL, a big area of neglect from both Loosingham and the weasel.
I am looking forward to the Spring Game!! And renewing my season tickets!!
HB2912 will make it out of finanace committee today
without any amendments that will limit UW from accessing funds.
this means it should go to the floor for a vote and should pass there.
sorry this isn’t the right forum but…….
hey john, are you there?
missed my wash.
i feel dirty…..
Incorrect
They excluded money for public stadiums. Its a setback
by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 7:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
To explain
Substitute bill hb 2912 passed with no amendments. The sub was excluding money for public arenas ans stadiums. The bill could be amended later if and when it hits the floor but the change in committee hurts the effort
by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 7:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

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