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Huskies Edge Oregon State 35-34 in Overtime

Jake Locker led Washington to an exciting 35-34 overtime win over Oregon State on Saturday night. Jake threw for a record five touch down passes while leading the Huskies to their first win over the Beavers in six seasons. The win evens Washington's record at 3-3 and keeps them in the race to qualify for a bowl game.

The Huskies started fast and built a 21-0 lead early in the first half. The Beavers came back behind the running of Jacquizz Rodgers and a tightened defense to trail 21-14 at the half. The Beavers scored on the first drive of the second half to tie the game and it stayed tied until the end forcing the game into overtime.

Both teams traded touchdowns during the first session of overtime. Washington went first during the second stanza and Locker hit Jermaine Kearse for a 21 yard touchdown pass. It was Kearse's second TD reception in overtime and his fourth in the game.

Oregon State looked like they were stopped on fourth down during their second possession but a pass interference penalty in the end zone gave them a new set of downs inside the Washington five. Jacquizz Rodgers scored on a two yard run to get the Beavers within one point.

 

OSU coach Mike Riley decided to go for two trailing by 35-34. Ryan Katz lofted the ball into the end zone at Joe Halahuni and it was was knocked away by Cort Dennison at the last second preserving the win for Washington.

Jake Locker was 21-35 for 286 yards, five touchdowns, one interception, two costly fumbles and 60 yards on the ground. Jermaine Kearse caught nine passes for 196 yards and a career record four touchdown receptions. Deandre Goodwin chipped in six catches and one touchdown reception. Chris Polk had 25 carries for 105 yards tough yards.

The Husky defense picked off Ryan Katz three times during the game. Katz was 17-31, 206 yards, and one touchdown. Washington held the Beavers 353 yards of total offense with 140 being supplied by Jacquizz Rodgers on 32 carries.

Next up for Washington is a trip Tucson to take on the Arizona Wildcats who didn't look very good for the third week in a row while struggling to beat WSU 24-7 in Pullman. QB Nick Foles suffered a knee injury and sat out a good portion of the game. He will have an MRI to determine the extent of the injury.

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Next 6 games

at Arizona
vs. Stanford
at Oregon
vs. UCLA
at California
at Washington State

I can see us going 0-3 over the next 3 games, and 3-0 over the last set. But if Nick Foles stays out….?

my mental image of our defense is pretty bad, but I remember this last year too; despite some aggravation they end up keeping games close and giving our offense a chance to win.

by Will Kier on Oct 17, 2010 12:02 AM PDT reply actions  

2 points do keep us from being 1-5

but we’ve given the opponents plenty of chances to win through feeble play, so in my opinion it ultimately all evens out. We feel like a 3-3 team (aiming for 6-6) so it’s all right in my book.

by Will Kier on Oct 17, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

not "feeble play"

more that I don’t think we’ve been particularly “lucky”. there’s been some good luck (yay 2 point bobble!), some bad luck (Locker “touchback” at USC), some good play, some bad play, and so far it’s all washed out to a 3-3 record.

by Will Kier on Oct 17, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Husky D only gave up 7 points in the 2nd half

Statistically we suck on defense. But the defense is getting better every week. I’m proud of all our defensive kids, they played good enough to get the win and that is what counts.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Oct 17, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Defense

In the last 3 games we have not given up a TD in the 4th qtr and only 2 TD’s in second half. I know we like to get on Holt’s case, but I think there are definitely some good adjustments being made. Or maybe its just players actually stepping up in crunch time. Either way, it is good to see that again.

by SeaHuskies on Oct 17, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

"an exciting 35-34 overtime win"

Such an understatement. Just got home from the game, I won’t be able to speak for days.

by SounderJunkie on Oct 17, 2010 12:18 AM PDT reply actions  

It was 2:00 AM in Chicago….so I had to crank it out before my wife yelled at me to go to bed…we all have deadlines…lol.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

give it up for the defense and Holt!

I’ve been critical of our defense and Nick Holt at various times, but let’s give him and the defense their due tonight – they showed definite improvement and kept us in the game after the offense went dormant for 2.5 quarters.

College football’s stupid OT system distorts the numbers somewhat, so let’s remember that the defense held OSU to 303 yards and 21 points in regulation, generated 3 turnovers and got the most consistent pass rush of the season.

If the defense can continue to get some heat from the front 4, we stand a reasonable shot against an Arizona team that will be missing Nick Foles. And I wouldn’t put it past them to keep Stanford from going nuts too – we seem to play better against pro-style offenses (Syracuse, USC, OSU).

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 12:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree that the defense deserves this win tonight. After the drive to open up the 2nd half, I was ready to call it a game, but damned if the D didn’t show up and give us the game. They didn’t pack it in when they had every opportunity to. I was impressed with their “never give up” attitude. They really deserve a lot of credit tonight.

by Barry Duffman on Oct 17, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Sark meanwhile...

Not one of Sark’s better games. His play-calling started off really creative and effective, but it seemed like he got a little more conservative as the game went on (what happened to the fly sweep after the first quarter?) I don’t think the play-calling was bad, and certainly there were many mistakes in execution that made his play-calling look worse (and give some credit to OSU too for adjusting), but it just seemed like he lost of a bit of the play-calling mojo he had going in the first 1.5 quarters.

And he absolutely butchered our last possession in regulation. Just horrible clock management with the huge delay in getting the 3rd down play call in burning, what, 25 seconds or so getting the call and personnel set? And then with 10 seconds to go, just running out the clock? Really? Jake has a very strong arm – what’s the harm in trying a Hail Mary attempt to the end zone? Or a 10 yard out pattern to stop the clock for a long FG attempt? Giving up there and just accepting OT (which is what he did by calling the run play) was just giving away chances to win the game. Yeah, it was Sark’s fault for letting the clock management get bungled in that drive, but there was still a chance to win the game in regulation.

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was still there, we just decoyed it brilliantly
(what happened to the fly sweep after the first quarter?)

Riley spread out the defensive front in order to contain the fly sweep action. Brock was right, Riley was daring us to run the ball up the middle. We still ran the fly sweep in the 2nd half, but we faked it to Callier, and instead ran up the middle with Polk, taking a huge advantage of Riley’s gambling D line splits. That was a great offensive scheme by Sark. Glad to see Goodwin being used more this season. When Agilar comes back, Goodwin will be that 3rd receiver that I hounded on early in the season.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Oct 17, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree a little

At the end of regulation, we had the ball deep in our own end. Sark said later he wanted to be sure we still had the ball at the end, which was the right way to think. When I was watching, I could see a scenario where we throw three incompletes, or a couple no gains, punt the ball, and then who knows. A punt from there, a decent return, a couple misses on Rogers, and a field goal ruins a great effort, and maybe a whole season. Sark is usually pretty aggressive, but I think the field position dictated the plays. With a great cohesive line, maybe you do it different, but OSU was getting good pressure, and a mistake there would have been ruinous.
At the time I was wishing he had been more aggressive, but now I think not.

by OlyDawgFan on Oct 17, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reasonable minds can disagree on how much time Sark burned before sending in that 3rd down play. I get that he wanted to minimize the chances that OSU could come back and score if they got the ball back, but it also minimized our chances of scoring.

What bothered me more was just giving up on the last play and running Polk. Chances of disaster, i.e. a turnover returned for a score were about as high on a running play like that as it would have been on a hail mary, and the chances of success (i.e. a TD) would have been higher.

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

The end of the game was as bad as the beginning of the game was good.

The pistol….Beautiful.

At the end, it just really looked like the Dawgs didn’t have a plan.

by Sundodger on Oct 18, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad somebody else saw that.

I really like the fact that Sark is willing to be flexible and adapt to his players.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 18, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

confusion

I thought we won the game? What else matters?

"...it's how you play the game!"

by Purpledawg on Oct 18, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winning doesn’t mean that Sark did everything right, that there aren’t things he can learn from to improve. IMO, he wasted an opportunity to win the game in regulation, with the risk being damn close to zero.

by kirkd on Oct 18, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say that the risk is zero. Remember the end of the first half against ASU?

by SeaHuskies on Oct 18, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you’re following. On the last play of regulation, with 10 seconds left, Sark called for a Polk run. Why not run a Hail Mary play there? While the chances of getting a TD aren’t high, the chances of disaster – i.e. an interception or fumble returned for a TD – are damn near zero. Heck, the chances of disaster on the play as called are probably as high as if a Hail Mary had been called.

I understand the argument for running the clock down before the 3rd down play (though I think Sark was too conservative in how much time he burned off), but I don’t understand just giving up on the possession there on that last play and not trying for a TD to win the game outright.

by kirkd on Oct 18, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Well I can’t exactly argue with you on that one. My one concern with the deep ball like that (when the chances of success are so low) is that whenever you have a bunch of guys going up for the ball in the same area, the chances of someone coming down funny and injuring themselves goes up (think Kendry Morales after his walk off grand slam). I know the odds of that are still low, but I don’t mind just taking it into overtime.

by SeaHuskies on Oct 19, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Washington D and Talia Crichton

…both maligned and both changed the course of this season. Talia’s fourth quarter sack on a 2 nd and three where he flat out beat his man 1 on 1 and lit up Katz to force a 3rd and 13 and an eventual punt completely changed the flow of that game and may well have saved our season. It was huge!

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 17, 2010 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crichton

Too bad for Talia, he suffered a knee injury late in the game. He blew right by the OT on that sack, one of the few times we’ve seen that this year. On the plus side, I thought Jamora did pretty well considering he’s a true frosh. Hopefully he and a redshirted Andrew Hudson can provide a little more pressure from the ends next year.

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

Husky fans love to feed off of the defense, but for too long we get burned when the defense lets the other guys convert on 3rd down. Happened a few times tonight too, but credit to the D – they buckled down in the 2nd half after allowing OSU to score to open the half, and played great from that point forward.

The sustained cheering on defense at the end of the game felt like the old days of DJ and Lambo.

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

The last straw for my voice was “expressing my displeasure” over the PI call in OT…

by kirkd on Oct 18, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've started calling it "Husky-itis"

I needed a quick way to explain to my co-pilots why I had a gravely voice on ealry Sunday morning flights. “Husky-itis” was a quick way to let them know it wasn’t contagious.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 18, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

How bad is the knee?

Does anybody know how bad of an injury Crichton took on his knee?

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Oct 17, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Holt haters know not what they see

Both last year and this year, the D gets better as the season goes along. A sign of good coaching.
His guys improve both as a team, and individually.
He brings young guys along and gets them out there when ready.
His guys love to play for him.
He is a good recruiter.
They are not particularly talented, but they work hard and play together.
He usually has a good plan for the opponent, based on his talent.
His intensity rubs off on the whole team.
He and the head coach work very well together.
Whats not to like?
I for one hope he stays around for a long time.

by OlyDawgFan on Oct 17, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

And we outplayed the OSU Defense in pretty much every statistical category. Most importantly, they have been keeping us in the game almost every week. As our defensive line gets bigger and better, our Defense will improve even more.

by Carne Guisada on Oct 17, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not get carried away.

Holt deserves a lot of credit for the win, the defense played very well and kept us in the game. But it was only ONE game. Just like everybody flushing the season down the toilet last week, we fans read way too much into one game.

Last year the defense improved significantly during the last three games for one very specific reason: Jason Wells. When Wells got healthy and got in the lineup, the defense instantly got better.

I’m not saying we are improving, I saw a lot of improvement last night, if we keep that up we will be in a bowl game. That being said, I can tell you with 100% certainty, if we are blitzing, and who is blitzing. We don’t disguise our blitzes at all. The good news is that we are blitzing a lot more, if Holt keeps it up, we will be in a bowl game.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meant to say:

Paragraph 3: I’m not saying we are NOT improving . . .

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been more than one game.

In fact you could argue that the unit has done enough to win in four of our six games and that it was offensive failures in BYU and ASU. Given the state of flux we are in from a program transition perspective, that’s respectable.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 17, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the UW football offices

I’d love to know what Holt thinks of his defense and what Sark thinks of the defense. How much pressure Holt wants to bring and how much Sark wants him to bring. I think Holt is either getting more comfortable with his players, therefore bringing more pressure, or maybe he’s just learning that playing safe all the time will get you a loss.

Either way, the defense is showing improvement and IF it keeps up, I’m going to owe Holt an apology. At this point I’m becoming neutral on Holt, I’m no longer calling for his head, but I also am not sold on him either.

The rest of the season should be very interesting, next we take on 3 of the best offenses, then we get 3 “easier” offenses. Oregon and Stanford scare me, as long as our defense doesn’t get embarrassed (like the Nebraska game) it will be a success.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Holt is either getting more comfortable with his players, therefore bringing more pressure, or maybe he’s just learning that playing safe all the time will get you a loss.

Secret option three is that the players are playing better.

by Sundodger on Oct 18, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen

oly, a voice of reason.

"...it's how you play the game!"

by Purpledawg on Oct 18, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m hopeful for a 6-6 season at this point. Tonight’s win was a great start. Without Foles, I think Arizona is ripe fore the taking. I am impressed with what the defense has done over the last two games. The talent level isn’t up to what it needs to be, but they have held some decent offenses somewhat in check to keep us in the game. After OSU scored on the first drive in the second half, I was ready to call it a game, but the defense really came through after that. I am impressed with their resiliency. Even though we were screwed on the interference call in OT, I am pumped with the win. I hope it is something we can use for next week.

by Barry Duffman on Oct 17, 2010 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Arizona has been ripe for the taking with and without Foles for the last month.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, and the refs...

…can kiss my ass. That was a BS pass interference call at the end. Someone on the crew have some money on the game maybe?

by kirkd on Oct 17, 2010 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree. After what they let go earlier in the game, to call that was total BS. I’m just glad it didn’t cost us the game.

by Barry Duffman on Oct 17, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was one Ref who kept chatting with Quizz all night.

… My seats are very close to the field on the visitors side. This guy was buddy buddy with quiz all night. Same guy that called the BS holding on Jakes long run and the same guy that called the PI.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 17, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Pac 10 refs never give us a break.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pac-10 Refs

I don’t think they give anyone a break. The call was questionable, but wasn’t terrible. Glad the team was able to overcome it.

Benno

by Benno on Oct 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

4th down Locker replay was a bad call too

The angle was off and when the angle is off you cannot change the call made on the field. That replay reversal was brutal. The NCAA rules pertaining to instant replay states that a call cannot be reversed without substantial video evidence. I did not see anything that warrented a reversal. And when the camera is off angle, you have no choice but to let the play stand as called on the field.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Oct 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations on your big win. I can't wait for my team to join next year.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. The most hated and misunderstood person on the MMA blogs.. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 17, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't wait to have you

It will e really interesting to see how playing Utah on a regular basis shakes up the PAC.

by SeaHuskies on Oct 17, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which

Has there been any word on the Colorado situation? Are they definitely not coming until 2012?

by SeaHuskies on Oct 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

this felt like a bit of cathartic redemption for the 07 Hawaii game

where we lunged out to a 21-0 lead in the first quarter, watched with existential horror as Hawaii chipped away, and then eventually took the lead in the last minute. Of course, we got the ball back with 38 seconds left from our own 22. It took Locker two plays to drive 74 yards down the field…..and then an interception on 2nd and Goal from the 6 ended it.

This time we held on. Maybe the connection isn’t exact, beyond being up 21-0 to start the game, but it’s a welcome change to come out on the other end of these nailbiters. Now if we could only nail down consistency….

by Will Kier on Oct 17, 2010 12:58 AM PDT reply actions  

God this game was tense

Even my girlfriend started getting into it… and she HATES football.

by chrees on Oct 17, 2010 2:01 AM PDT reply actions  

The crowd

deserves a kudo as well, for getting into the game in the late going and sticking around for the whole damn game. That’s the most people still in Husky stadium at the end of a game I’ve seen in a bunch of years…at least ten years.
Jack

by T9ODawg on Oct 17, 2010 2:17 AM PDT reply actions  

first OT win since 2002 Apple Cup

you know, the lateral game.

aha

ahahahaha oh that one

by Will Kier on Oct 17, 2010 3:53 AM PDT reply actions  

great game!!

What a game. I agree don’t understand why Sark got conservative.

I can understand the possession at the end of the game. He was playing for OT.

What can you say about Chris Polk. He doesn’t get the pub as Locker, but he’s just as important to the team and he is one hell of a downhill runner.

With Foles likely out, I think the AZ game is a must win then 2 of 3 out of UCLA, Cal and WSU will get us to a bowl.

by john_s on Oct 17, 2010 6:34 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It's funny how that works...

Sark gets blasted last week for not giving the ball to Polk enough. This week he is “too conservative” for giving the ball to Polk 24 times in regulation. I think a lot of the zone reads that Jake gave down the middle to Polk later in the game were because OSU spread out their defense to protect against Jake running outside and the fly sweep. I don’t think it was being conservative, just a good adjustment by OSU that we weren’t able to exploit enough.

by Carne Guisada on Oct 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the second quarter OSU begged us to attack the middle by splitting wide. They saw it up in the booth and went with it…should have kept attacking the edges…which of course put 21 points on the board.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea how we won that game.

Both teams were doing everything they could to give it away.

“Here, have a quick 21 points. We’re ranked; you need this more than we do.”

“No, no, no. We couldn’t possibly. Here, you have 21 points too.”

“Well, alright, if you insist, but we simply must give you the ball back every time it looks like we’re going to score.”

“Well, thank you, but you know our offense wouldn’t dream of doing anything with it.”

And so on until OT.

by huskies2010 on Oct 17, 2010 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Shoe falls in Minnesota

…and this has implications for WSU as I’m sure they’ll be looking at a lot of the same candidates. Obviously, there is no rush to pull the plug on Wulff. However, the back channel wire is going to start burning for each teams top candidates.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 17, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Wulff won't be fired

WSU keeps getting better every week. When you have an exceptionally young team that is all you can ask. Wulff gets another year.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

So much the better . . . .

for us Husky fans!!

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Game

Kudos to the defense, definitely one of their best games of the year. The extra blitzes paid off huge dividends, between the noise and the pressure, Katz looked like a deer in the headlights!

What happened to the offense? Most of the first half it looked like we had switched to a spread offfense and it was working GREAT!! Then we went back to more pro style sets and couldn’t get a drive going. We know we lack a TE and a FB, why don’t we just keep calling more of the spread plays? It fits our current personnel and they execute those plays much better.

Keil Rasp, why the heck has this guy been riding the bench??? I haven’t seen his average, but his punts are high and far, couldn’t ask for much better.

Overall, an awesome game (don’t know if my heart and blood pressure can take too many of those), hopefully the momentum will carry us into next week. WSU, Cal, and UCLA look winnable and Arizona is ripe for the picking, if the ball bounces right 7-5 is still possilbe. GO DAWGS.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

It kind of sucked for me because my internet feed died

and it was on TV and I had to leave dawgman chat. What did happen to beetzi? I’m so used to watching games via chat that it was extra difficult to watch it sort of live. Glad I did though!

by hairofthedawg on Oct 17, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave Beetzi a timeout…let him back in after a couple minutes. He didn’t like it and went off so I gave him the boot. We just aren’t going to put up with that crap anymore over at DM.

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by John Berkowitz on Oct 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a different style of kick.

It’s just a way to kick based on how you think they are rushing the kicker and kicking from behind a blocker. It works well because it normally rolls a ways and the returner can’t normally get to it.

by Carne Guisada on Oct 17, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is how our coaches design it

moves the punting “pocket”, it’s trying to make up for our less then stellar punt blocking at the line.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 17, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

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