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Huskies Blacking Out Hec Ed

These guys don't play for WSU any more, but the legacy they left in the bedroom Pac-10 has not yet been forgotten.

These guys don't play for WSU any more, but the legacy they left in the bedroom Pac-10 has not yet been forgotten.

And hoping to shut down Washington State as they debut their alternate black jerseys as part of their "black out cancer" effort.

In years past, this game was always particularly interesting not only because of the rivalry, but also because of the stark contrast in styles. It was the run-n-gun-fill-it-up Huskies vs. the pack-it-in-grind-it-out Cougars. As both programs made strides to become prominent in the conference the rivalry became especially heated. Now, with the departure of Tony Bennett one could make the argument that the rivalry will not be as intriguing. Or, you could argue that with former UW assistant Ken Bone taking the reins and running a very similar system to what the Huskies have been doing for years, the teams will be even more geared up because they players will be competing more directly with each other.

This year, Coug fans have been quick to point out the Huskies' weak nonconference schedule. It's kind of cute that they do, because while the Huskies S.O.S. is ranked just 59th, WSU's is a much worse 149th.

The big gun on WSU's roster is Klay Thompson. You should remember him from last year, when he was the conference's 2nd best freshman. His game is improved this year, and now that he's the focal point of the offense he gets more than his fair share of looks. He can shoot the Cougars to victory regardless of who they're playing. Or can he? In their 4 games against top-50 (Kenpom) teams (Gonzaga, Kansas State, Arizona State and Cal - all losses) he has played pretty poorly. Conversely, Husky star Quincy Pondexter has played well in 3 of 4 of UW's games against top-50 teams (Georgetown, Texas A&M, Arizona State and Cal - 2 wins).

The real guy the Huskies have to look out for is freshman Reggie Moore. An odd turn of events landed Moore in Pullman, and if a domino or two had fallen the other way Moore could have easily been wearing purple and gold (and black) this year. Hypothetically, if Lute Olson didn't have the medical issues he did it's not a far cry at all. Lute stays at Arizona, Abdul Gaddy remains committed to the Cats, and the Huskies have an open scholarship to give (likely to a guard to fill the Justin Dentmon vacancy). When Moore, a Seattle product (Ranier Beach HS), drops Fresno State the Huskies probably offer him and he has the choice between UW and WSU. And (at that point) I don't think he'd have had to think long at all. Because of this and because they're both freshmen point guards the natural tendency would be to compare Moore and Gaddy. But quite simply, you can't. Not without an asterisk, anyway. At this point it is evident that Moore is the better player. However, Moore also had the benefit of playing a year of basketball at a prep school after high school, while Gaddy has played above his age for virtually his entire life. Moore is more than two years older than Gaddy, who has played exactly 1 game as an adult (he turned 18 when the Huskies hosted Seattle University). Moore is the better player right now. Will it last? Of course not.

If this game was being played in Pullman or on a neutral court, I'd give WSU a shot. But when they're playing at Hec Ed, the Huskies are the best team in the conference and by a wide margin. The Dawg Pack started lining up for this one earlier today. They'll be decked out in black, leading a packed house. The Huskies feed off of their crowd, and the young Cougars (all freshmen and sophomores except Nikola Koprivica) have seen very few, if any environments like a packed Bank of America Arena.

The Huskies need this one, and they'll get it. UW 91, WSU 72

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I still laugh at that picture

The game could be close but the way that uw plays at Hec Ed is worth at least 10. The only way we don’t get run is taking care of the ball and slowing the tempo, things that are easier said then done.

Holiday on Klay should be fun to watch as well as the combination of guards on Moore. We don’t really have the defenders to man up, either, so expect a lot of zone.

I expect an entertaining game if nothing else. This isn’t your Bennett slow it up team anymore and there should be plenty of highlight reel plays from both teams

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 4:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

The Cougs played well enough for 35 minutes earlier this year to beat the Zags (a team much better than the Huskies and it’s too bad they don’t play anymore) in K2 so I don’t know if Hec Ed will really rattle us that much.

by kelly20210 on Jan 29, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not really about us

More about uw. They play so well in Hec Ed that they can beat anyone. We’ve also had our issues with opposing crowds

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Creepy Coug Pic

Perhaps one of the creepiest even though we all know it is innocent. Sometimes you just have to pass out.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 29, 2010 4:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kinda cool its treated as a big game

Its nice there’s a basketball rivalry….football on the other hand

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 4:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

Basketball shouldn’t fall off anytime soon. Two strong and young teams that are similar in their makeup. Both coaches should keep the teams on the rise. Seems like this week is the Romar coaching reunion as well

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 4:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Bone may make some inroads in seattle finally for us

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Dollar does as well. He can flat recruit. Until Bone we really had no shot on the westside either. If wsu and uw can take advantage of the crop in this area both schools can be big players for a long time

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 4:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to be getting a little crowded if you ask me

Don’t forget about Gonzaga in the state as well. Washington really needs to start winning some games soon, because if we don’t then surely WSU and Dollar’s Seattle U could be a serious threat to our West side recruiting advantage.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 29, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldnt worry so much about that

Few doesn’t really recruit seattle much. Bone is still trying to reestablish a connection and romar has a hold of seattle still.

What you should worry about is out of state teams swooping in

by cougfan on Jan 29, 2010 5:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Bone will bring Washington talent to WSU.

This game showed that his depth isn’t there when going against a team that pickup and sustain a physically draining pace. I would argue WSU’s challenges in second half were as much about fatigue as anything else.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 30, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we just dont have the horses to run with uw

We go six maybe seven deep. A lot of these guys are slow down bennett guys. In time hell get athletes. He knows seattle well obviously and should be able to recruit

by cougfan on Jan 30, 2010 7:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Problems that have been exposed

We are not very physical down low and our opponents are getting easy looks at the basket from down there. I thought losing Jon Brockman was going to be tough, but I didn’t expect us to cave in down on the low post. We had no answer vs. Ucla or USC down low.

vs. Ucla

They packed the paint in that tight zone defense. How do you crack the zone? Easy, feed it inside for easy buckets and burry tres. We couldn’t crack the zone and Brockman was sorely missed.

vs. USC

The Trojans totally dominated us down low, no anwser what so ever.

Our bigs need to stay 5 feet or less from the basket and we need to start channeling the ball in there so we find some consistent shots in there that we can rely on. If you don’t have the inside game, then you won’t have the outside game either.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Jan 29, 2010 5:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Gaddy is anywhere close to the player Moore is and I realize there is a discrepancy in the ages but I would say Gaddy is probably not even as good as our backup PG Xavier Thames he (Gaddy) is certainly more talented. Depending on how long Gaddy sticks around Moore will definitely be the better player as long as both players remain in school.

by kelly20210 on Jan 29, 2010 7:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of a stretch...

…don’t ya think?! I mean I can see your point when it comes to Moore but saying Thames is better than Gaddy seems totally off base. And as Cassino said, the age discrepancy between Gaddy and Moore explains volumes.

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by dawgfan22 on Jan 29, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright I'll give you Thames

I was just being homerish. Sorry. But like I said I think Moore will be the better of the two as long as they are in college which is the only time that is really relevant (on this blog at least). I can’t see Gaddy improving that much to get ahead of Moore in the next 2-3 years.

by kelly20210 on Jan 29, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Moore will have a better college career

because he’s going to be around 4 years.

If Gaddy gets better at the rate he’s going now, he leaves at the end of next year. His tools are so far beyond Moore’s that there is no way a scout lets him slip past the lottery if he goes next year.

He keeps showing flashes of brilliance on both ends of the floor. If he can adjust to the speed of the game and play with that tenacity that the best have, he’ll be among the elite in the country.

That said, Moore is definately outperforming Gaddy by leaps and bounds right now. I just think he’s 10x closer to his celing than Abdul.

by B Money on Jan 29, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

after watching the stinker that Moore put up today,

I wonder if you still hold that opinion. His turnovers were absolute killers.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 30, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

im not down on him

Dumb turnovers for sure but he’s been pretty good thus far. He pressed too much at times and it showed.

As for him and gaddy I have no idea but its no secret I love gaddys potential

by cougfan on Jan 30, 2010 7:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

The age discrepancy???

Gaddy was a top 15 overall recruit, while Moore was considered by many recruiting services as a 2 or 3 star. Gaddy was supposed to be 1 and done (but actually can’t because of age restrictions anyway) and was considered far more talented. Moore is simply the better player at this point. A year of prep school hardly readies you for playing 30 minutes a night in the Pac-10 and playing well enough to win Pac-10 frosh of the year.

If this conversation took place before the season UW fans would laugh at the cougs if any of them thought for a minute that Moore was anywhere near the player Gaddy is. I guess thats why we play the games though.

by MattPD on Jan 30, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Prep school does ready players for CBV

They’re much more used to the rigorous practice schedules and balancing them with classes. Plus they get to play against a higher level if competeition. College becomes a much easier transition.

by thecassino on Jan 30, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't Wait!...

…to see the black uniforms! GO DAWGS!!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Jan 29, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Cougs will be exposed just like Seattle U

This will be as entertaining as the SU game. GO DAWGS.

Gaddy has long way to go to be ready for the Pro’s .Gaddy will be here for at least 3 years. He has no shot, doesn’t look good shooting the ball.

The Tunnel is Hallowed and Sacred Ground

by bigdawgdaddy999 on Jan 30, 2010 10:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Cougars aren't Seattle U

But at the same time, home isn’t the road. UW probably wins this game, but I’d be more worried about getting blown out in Pullman with the 0 road wins and all..

by MattPD on Jan 30, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Logo?

Tacoma’s TNT is reporting new weasel replacing logo unveiling today at the WSU game. Any validity? Preview?

by Gig Harbor Husky on Jan 30, 2010 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Woodward said the weasel has been dying a slow death

But unveiling the new logo tonight would seem like poor timing… they’re already unveiling the black unis. Seems like they’d save it for another occaision, when it’s going to get more of the spotlight. But then again, maybe they think it could help them with recruiting and want to get it out asap. We’ll see.

by thecassino on Jan 30, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting...

…info and GO DAWGS!! Great Win! Enjoyed it immensely!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Jan 30, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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