Lowe a Duck?
Hearing that Keanon Lowe is now a Duck.
Hope you enjoy being a target of Chris Young over the next 4-5 years....that is is if you ever see offense since Oregon has a nasty habit of lying about where you are going to end up playing. Kind of an idiot move if you ask me on Lowes part...he will be a DB in the fall.
See ya ...IMHO...he will get more playing time with the Ducks...no major loss for UW who has the top 3 WR's in the country lined up for 2011.
Good player...no major loss...have fun pumping gas after you graduate like our good buddy Spencer Peaty.
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Wow, JB....
haven’t seen you so testy for a bit. But, I agree with you…. let him go and no great loss. He is making a mistake. Even with a guy as good as Heaps, if he doesn’t bleed purple he’s better off somewhere else.
Expect to Win!!!
You stay classy John
delete comments you don’t agree with, criticize the college choice of young players like some blogger for another school knows what’s best for him, and then make fun of people who disagree with you. My goodness, grow up.
No biggie...
He’ll end up at CB and has the potential to be a pretty good one but considering we started two freshman corners last year we aren’t in need of many WR & CB’s in this class and I’d MUCH rather keep Kevin Swith and/or Ducre and lose Lowe then vice versa. Plus this opens up a scholy for a guy like Shirley who I’d also MUCH rather have.
Like John said…Good luck against Mr. Young.
Farmer is listed by neither rivals or scout
as having intrest in UW, Victor Blackwell and Devon Blackmen are
Best of luck to him.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
Lowe
Who would want to play widereceiver for a spread option offense? It’s a running offense frist. Oh well, not a surprise and we’ve got plenty of talent on board anyway. If the article is correct Lowe is the ducks only wide out commit. GO DAWGS!!
by doubledeucedawg on Jan 24, 2010 5:29 PM PST reply actions
Can't fault a kid for getting to go to his dream school ...
… but this is the key question IMO. If he really wanted to be a successful WR, UWs offense would seem a much better fit.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
on a UW fan blog? serious? If you could demonstrate that ATQ stays as classy as you'd like us to be, you'd win me over.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
At least
They don’t delete everything that is the least bit contrary to the popular opinion of husky fans, you can go over there and say whatever you want, and they don’t delete you, they will call you out though, and engage you in an actual discussion about what you are saying. Seriously. This comment will be deleted within 30 minutes I can almost take that to the bank.
Quack, don't forget
the threats of violence and guaranteed homoerotic discussions.
"Anytime, Anyplace"
"Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne
On the ATQ site, that is.
"Anytime, Anyplace"
"Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne
Actually
The only post to get deleted are of the “my daddy is better than your daddy” and “you suck, we rock” variety.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Wow
I don’t know how you other Husky fans are playing this off like it’s not a big loss. Keanon Lowe is one of the best playmakers in this years class. Big loss. But honestly who didn’t see this coming? It was written on the wall if he ended up taking a visit to UO he’d end up there, and it happened.
Well…watch Keanon Lowe’s film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2dAyuXXv0
And then watch Kevin Smiths film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRm_tNb1eQk
Keanon’s good but, in my opinion, Kevin Smith is bigger and better.
Kevin Smith is RAW
In every sense of the word, but I like Lowe more, by virtue of him being more polished already. Kevin Smith is straight beast though.
I'll respectfully disagree...
Like’em both but Keanon reminds me of Diandre Goodwin – Kevin Smith reminds me of Reggie Williams – though he will have to work hard to get there but the potential is there – He looks VERY physical – Lowe is a bit undersized in my opinion which is why most want him as a CB and not a WR.
I agree with the Reggie Williams comparison
and yes Smith looks very physical, but is he a safety or WR? His route running isn’t very good now, hopefully he embraces the process and becomes a beast WR. He has a 1st round ceiling, but he could not end up panning out.
Luckily...
we won’t really need him for a year or two so hopefully that will give him ample time to polish his skills.
He one player
we have 29 other guys committed, how about the ducks?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Do you realize
how stupid that sounds coming from ANY football fan??
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
smokin'Quack?
Hey Ducks smokin’ quack, if you have to lose some,and you do…(and will!) .I’d gladly lose this player for this overall recruiting class! Quality guys…filling needs with balance and key difference makers suited for the schemes already gaining! And you don’t want any “double-minded” kids who don’t know what “commitment” is! Let’s admit he’s a really nice player that frankly…..would be buried deep on the depth chart !
deep in the husky depth chart?
With all of your explosive offensive talent? I don’t see this as a great gain for Oregon who already got a 4 star guy from Texas and are basically waiting on lache seastrunk to commit (which will happen).. i think its a bigger loss for the dawgs than a gain for the ducks.
Pipedream
Remember when Terrell Pryor was a lock and you were waiting on him to commit?
Take a look at UW's recievers
We have arguably the best receiving corps in the Pac-10 for 2010, and the only senior is Goodwin. It’s one position where we have tons of talent and depth. Lowe isn’t that big a loss, especially with a guy like Kasen Williams on the horizon.
Can we please stop feeding the trolls.
If you ignore them they’ll stop quacking. Every single time it’s the same damn thing.
Ducks: You guys suuuuuuuck!
Dawgs: We have a longer track record of success!
Ducks: Blah blah blah fuskies blah blah blah
Dawgs: Blah blah blah fail to realize that arguing with someone that resorts to name calling is futile blah blah blah
Back and forth on and on. It’s juvenile and tiring. Nobody is going to change anyone’s mind so give it up.
Good point
I’m getting tired of arguing with swine. Hopefully John will delete ALL of the comments!
To Quote Crazi: I’m out.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
One last parting shot . . .
UW’s recruiting class #8 in the country
Whoregon’s recruiting class #25 in the country
Nuff said.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Where are you getting this...?
37-33, 47-20, 42-3, 65-38...So many scores to choose from!
"Nobody east of the Rockies talks about Oregon football, and that's just not right".
by Dixonforlife07 on Jan 25, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Ah
37-33, 47-20, 42-3, 65-38...So many scores to choose from!
"Nobody east of the Rockies talks about Oregon football, and that's just not right".
by Dixonforlife07 on Jan 26, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Lowe to Oregon
I have been hoping Lowe would change his commitment to the ducklings. After watching his play in the Jesuit / Sheldon game when he had a fabulous game as a running back. Of course he was playing against a bunch of Oregon kids. But the thing I noticed the most was that on defense he shied away from contact. And when ever he was at receiver he did nothing impressive. So as our class filled up I thought one way to make more room would be for Lowe to change his mind and go where he always wanted to go. Especially after all the duckling fans said he wasn’t good enough of a wide receiver to play for Oregon.That his talent was at DB. I guess they changed their minds since they couldn’t seem to attract any talent at the WR position. I look forward to the Dawgs facing him at either position. Can’t imagine him as much of a blocker either.
You said it...I couldn't think of a nice way to say it better!
he will play sooner (if he ever see’s the offensive side of the ball) at Oregon…and will likely play corner anyway! Either way “W” is better off with the class coming in with spots getting what they need! (no need for another smallish reciever!) Gap closing talent!
Where did all the *uck trolls go?
Is it this bad bit of news from Eugene that’s stolen their mojo?
Oh, and realdawg’s reporting that he talked to Taula and he’s committed to the Dawgs!
No big deal
Masoli will be suspended for the 2010 season, but I’m sure he’ll be reinstated by the beginning of spring practice in a few months.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
And I agree...
UO will be heavily favored over the Dawgs next year. And rightfully so. Even Belotti’s wife could hand off to LaMichael James for a big gain. And she could do it with a drink in the other hand.
Enjoy it while while it's here
I’m the biggest duck hater on this blog and I am not going to get involved with this badgering. Oregon has a solid program right now. I might be alone on this, but I don’t give a [bleep] that Lowe decided to stay home. I never liked his stock credentials on offense anyways. He’s too short at receiver. Has any of you seen the latest recruiting trends? Most of the major programs are now recruiting CBs that stand 6’2" and taller. As the evolution recruiting process of the receiver get’s taller and taller, it was just a matter of time before major programs began to put an emphasis on taller CBs too. It’s very likely that Lowe could be a wash. Good luck with your 5’9" catch- from the time we got him until now I wasn’t big on the Lowe-commit.
All I saw was purple
114 posts...wow
Came home from dinner and saw that we had 114 posts ….the majority were flames from Duck fans who are now banned from the blog.
I am sure next time I look we will have quite a few more.
The thing is Lowe really didn’t matter as a WR at Washington. He wasn’t ever going to get a decent shot at playing there so the defection really means little. What it does is open a slot for somebody more important.
Thanks for cleaning it up John
It was a mess!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
It wasn’t like I posted the most UO friendly release either.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
John, quick question for you. How can this defection mean very little to you when he was one of your 5 four star recruits? Are you coming at that simply because of the position? Or do you really feel you would rather have 16 three star guys than one four star guy?
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Matt
He was a three star…sure you hate to lose one to the Ducks but we are loaded at WR and have even better prospects coming next season. I doubt Lowe would have played much at UW….on the other hand I think he will play earlier at Oregon. I just don’t think losing a 5’10 WR isn’t really a big deal.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
In all honesty I don’t think he’ll see the field much at WR or corner (oregon is loaded in both as well). I just look at a guy who rivals calls a four star with talent and speed and if he made up 20% of our four star list and left I don’t think I would dismiss it
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
We just replace him with another four star at a greater position of need. Nothing against Lowe but the defection would mean more if he was a defensive player. I would rather add another defensive player at this point.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
As you realize Matt my post was tongue in cheek…great athlete but we have some guys on the board left at other positions that are probably better fits that will contribute sooner.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
In all honesty at first glance it looks like sour grapes (and a little beneath your usual writings, which may be why so many took exception to it) Your further clarification makes more sense
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Here comes a fun history lesson
Lowe’s speed should be interesting to watch. Lowe has exceptional speed, but so did Ja’warren Hooker. Hooker holds the Washington State 100 meter record at 10.27 seconds!! He had world class speed, but he just wasn’t built to take the beating of playing PAC10 football. I wonder if Lowe will be able to hold up in the PAC10.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Agree!
Sark is putting an emphasis on taller receivers. We were able to get a state of Oregon playmaker to commit. Yet he’s only 5’9". Does that sound like the sort of talent Sark is gunning for? Remember his comment on recruiting last offseason. Sark said “WE WON’T SETTLE”. He’s 5’9" guys? So I ask you, does that sound like a Sark target?
To me it sounds more like we were trying to one-up on Oregon by attempting to go into their backyard and steel one of their own. 5’9" fellas, everybody just take a deep breath, relax, calm down, and if you’re a smoker, go out and have a drag. We’re going to be okay- Sark is bringing in top shelf talent. I’m not going to lose any sleep over a guy that wants to play receiver, who has to stand on his tippy toes to be 5’10", seriously!
All I saw was purple
Nothing wrong with 5'9
Height is good on the outside, but a quick get in and out of breaks, Wes Welker like guy is good in the slot.
Have you seen USC's receivers lately?
Sark came from running that SC offense and he’s going after 6’2" and taller across the board if he can get them.
Everybody who is recruiting 5’11" or shorter receivers had better check the latest trends. Have you seen how many CBs out there these days that stand 6’2"? Sark knows the height evolution of the receiver being recruited is pushing the evolutionary height of the CB just the same. If you can get 6’2" receivers- getem’! We don’t need a 5’9" receiver now or in the future.
All I saw was purple
Let's be real here..
There’s a good chance Sark was going to give Lowe a “shot” a WR – and once Lowe realized he wasn’t going to play much at that position – then Sark would have moved him to CB just as oregon is going to do.
I know
And at a small height you want quick more than you want fast. You want a kid that can make quick cuts and run crisp routes, accelerating at the drop of a hat.
Of course I wasn’t talking about Lowe specifically since I have no idea what he’s like, just about smaller guys in general.
by Brian Floyd on Jan 25, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
The problem becomes...
getting off the line of scrimage. Small WR’s often get pressed by the opposing D, especially if they have bigger physical corners. We’ve had this issue in the past at UW with small fast / quick guys that get swallowed up by press coverage.
True
Which is why you see the little guys being moved around in motion. I still think of a Wes Welker type guy, whos 5’9 and shifty. But it is much easier for a more physical WR to survive
by Brian Floyd on Jan 25, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
A few reasons
We have quite a few very good WR’s already on the roster, most have a lot of eligibility left, Lowe would have been buried on the depth chart for a few years.
Losing 1 out of 30 recruits should be expected, I thought we had too many WR’s to start with in this class, so it’s not a big loss. In addition, we want to leave a little bit of room for Kasan Williams who will be a 5 star recruit next year and will be a far better fit for Sark’s offense (Sark is looking for big receivers).
Losing guys like Montana, Potoae, or any of the “big uglies” would have hurt far worse.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
bq, osing guys like Montana, Potoae, or any of the "big uglies" would have hurt far worse.
Oh I agree, but when you are looking to restock talent (which I think is what Sark is trying to do with 30 or so commits) wouldn’t as many highly rated athletes as possible be a good thing?
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Yes, but . . .
WR is probably the area where we have the most depth and don’t need to restock.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
You got to remember Matt...
just because Lowe is highly rated doesn’t guarentee he will be a great fit. Lowe seems more like a finess guy. He reminds me of Deandre Goodwin. Deandre was well thought of comming out of HS, he’s very fast and a bit undersized at WR. He also got passed up by a true freshman this year
In my opinion, (not to sound like sour grapes) for the last 6-7 years UW has had quite a few fast atheletes that are undersized and not real physical. The one thing that stands out to me about the guys we’ve recruited this year is they seem to be MUCH more physically dominant then guys we’ve recruited in the past. Watch Chris Young or Kevin Smith’s film and you’ll see what I mean – to me that is the biggest thing UW has been missing on the field.
By the way
I’m surprise duck fans are making such a big deal out of a “plan B” player. He was a back up option for the Oregon coaches, so using that logic, he shouldn’t be a big loss for us either.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I don’t think he was “Plan B” as much as he was someone Oregon wanted to help round out their recruiting with (athlete, WR/DB, versatile player, in state guy).
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
He was plan B for Oregon
They had their sights set on bigger fish and went back to him after they struck out on some national kids. IS he actually a plan B kid….no way…but he was plan B for Oregon this year.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
I think it is a painful loss,
… but I think the sentiment of most fans is that we seem to have a few interested players of equal calibur at positions where we have less depth. Keanon’s change of heart clears up a slot to offer one of those guys.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Taula not a Dawg
Reports that Kerifi Taula is a Husky are not true according to his father…he will visit Arizona next week. He enjoyed his trip but the report from another site that he committed is not true.
Kirifi Tuala question is raining...."cats and dawgs"?
It’s a not-so-classic case of “he said …she said….” Who " has it correct? I love this kid in purple and gold! Can’t you just see it….a defensive front that looks and sounds like a Polynesian Tsunami/Invasion!!!! Potoae’! Taula! “Uiki”! Hemuli! Talia! Ta’amu! (reload..fire! repeat!)
Kirifi Taula question is raining...."cats and dawgs"?
I hate when names are misspelled! Sorry “Kirifi Taula” (there…I fixed it!) I hope Kirifi did have a “critter-change” from “cat to dawg”!?
Glad I'm not Bob Rondeau
I feel for the guy, could you imagine pronouncing all of those names quickly in the middle of a game!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Holy Crapola!
I leave for a weekend and all hell breaks lose! So what if Lowe decommited- hell the guy is a product of the state of Oregon. He’s decided to stay home- big Whoop!
Husky fans get a grip. This guy is going to be an average CB at Oregon. If he suits up as a receiver, keep in mind we don’t need anymore 5’9" receivers. Sark wants to go after 6’2" or taller receivers. I think the main reason Sark pursued Lowe from the beginning was to get under the skin of the zeros a bit.
We haven’t lost much. Being a playmaker in the prep ranks doesn’t necessarily translate to becoming a playmaker at the college level. And we are talking about a playmaker from the state of Oregon fellas. Hell the guy might as well be from the state of Idaho. Being a playmaker from the Beaver State might not amount to much- how much competition is Lowe faced with in the State of Oregon?
5’9" fellas, go! I’d prefer we use that scholarship on a kid that actually has pro potential. I wasn’t all giddy about Lowe anyways. Offensively he’s too short and I’m quite certain Sark and Holt would’ve put him on defense just as the chipper is going to. Not a big loss…
All I saw was purple
And to make it all worse . . .
we agree, crap.
Definitely agree that he is headed to the defensive side of things and I have a hard time getting excited over a 5’10’’ (if true) WR.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
No big deal
I think we all knew lowe would not stay a Dawg. All that anyone can do is wish him luck. I don’t think it’s a big loss. Sark will get someone else.
sark already got someone else...and then some...
Washington staff is filling needs…it is that simple. WR. isn’t a big concern any longer…in fact it’s starting to develop quite a shine! Add a few more choice pieces….(read Kasen Williams etc.) and “boom”! The staff is doing what anyone with a brain would do….go after quality linemen on both sides…and work out from there with difference makers from “pickers to kickers”! Don’t look now……But, Dawgs are loading up with what they need! No need for this guy on the offensive side of the ball….
Sean Parker
Has any one heard how Sean Parker visit went, or if either of the cali LB are still looking our way
Yes, sort of
My understanding is that early enrollees can count toward either the previous class or the upcoming class. Given the fact that the 2010 class will be maxed out at 25, they can count the 2011 early enrollees toward the 2011 class.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lowe NO Linemen YES
We need six or seven of both offensive and defensive linemen as 2-3 will play next year and the rest redshirt. So we are really recruiting two years of offense and defense lines. Too many DBs, ATHLETES, etc.,
Protect the passer and you will win most of your games. Harrass the opposition QB and you will win most of your games.
Do both and you will more likely than not go to the Rose Bowl. Remember where the “all I saw was purple” quote came from. Hint 1991.
Still losing to the Ducks
And its not even football season.
I thought we got rid of all the obnoxious duck posters . . .
but until John delete’s your post, when was the last time the ducks won a Rose Bowl?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Deletions
I had been meaning to ban some IP addresses for awhile and this just seemed like an easy way to corral them together for system maintenance.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 25, 2010 8:41 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Lowe
probably fits our offensive system much better than the Husky’s. In reality, this is probably best for all parties involved. We’ll use Lowe much like we used Barner in the Rose Bowl. We’ll use his speed and get him into space on end arounds, screens and the option.
Also, from what a high school coach down here told me, Lowe is one of the best blocking wide receivers he has seen. Decleated two kids on his team that he thought would never be able to pick themselves off the ground. Although under the same breath he said they were able to jam him at the LOS with a 160 wirey db. Probably not well suited for the pro-set offense, which why most project him at CB. CK will find a good way to use him though.
Recruiting Classes
C’mon guys, be realistic when evaluating the recruiting classes (Washington vs. Oregon specifically). Also, don’t just use the one recruiting service that ranks UW highest. We’re not politicians here, let’s be realistic. Here are the breakdowns from the three major recruiting outlets (based on 10:00 this morning):
Scout:
UW-29 recruits, ranked #8
UO-18 recruits, ranked #24
Rivals:
UW-30 recruits, #24
UO-18 recruits, #21
ESPN:
UW-29 recruits, #21
UO-17 recruits, #23
Washington fans will say Scout is the correct service while Oregon will say Rivals is the correct service.
Robbie G. "The Beavers Suck"
the actual number is not relevant ...
… what is relevant is that Washington, one season removed from being winless, is in the same breath as Oregon when it comes to quality of class. I think that speaks to how much more of a destination Washington is (urban location, university status, ease of traveling in and out of, etc) when the coaching is deemed at least at par with our competing NW schools.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Do we rank the classes before or after . . .
the Oregon players get suspended?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
They are both great classes…Oregon might actually finish stronger.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 25, 2010 12:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's tough to actually evaluate a class until after pen hits paper
They’re good classes, but until it’s all said and done who knows which ranks higher
by Brian Floyd on Jan 25, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
They're very similar
about the same measureables and style. Bigelow looks to be a bit more athletic, but Lowe looks like more of an offensive playmaker.
ehhh...
that’s a stretch…Lowe has 10.4 speed (or around there) and I think his acceleration is better. Bigelow is probably the better overall athlete (vertical, cone drill type of stuff) and stronger, but Lowe is fast.
Also, remember that Bigelow is having surgery to repair his ACL (MCL maybe? judges?)…that’s the type of thing that a kid is going to have to rehab a long time before he can get back to full speed.
Probably both ACL/MCL
It takes a year to get back, and two to be effective, especially when you rely on it for cutting.
by Brian Floyd on Jan 27, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
I know it's something that can heal...
but what I’m worried about is his confidence in cutting and going full speed. Alot of guys are never the same after those lig injuries because they get kind of timid about blowing it out and ending a career.
That's the longer part
Realistic it’ll be healed in a year. After that, it depends on the guy. When I say effective, I’m thinking the same way as you. It becomes more mental for the person to have the confidence when they want to cut one way to know their knee won’t go the other way.
by Brian Floyd on Jan 27, 2010 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Not generally...
I think John was as pissed as the rest of us. Last I checked, this is not a news outlet, it’s a blog. It’s meant for biased opinion journalisim, but in general we keep it civil.
I could see a mile away that UW was gonna get burned, and Keanon was trying to play it sly as if he was pulling the wool over our eyes.
Nope
We try to keep it classy 99% of the time.
by John Berkowitz on Jan 27, 2010 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
lowe down? or little bigelow?
both are explosive…quick and fast little “burners”! I only saw one clip of little bigelow’s play and from only one play you could see (at least potentially) an almost even blend of Reggie Bush/Napoleon Kaufman…less shifty than Reggie but more wiggle than Napoleon….Obviously I’m drinking the Kool-aid….but, that said….the kid can catch the ball too….dangerous in space! Lowe down? Don’t give him more than an inch or two or he’ll squirt through and disappear behind you! But both need space it seems to make it happen …(unlike Barry Sanders or Reggie etc.) Still….nice players both! We’ll see hopefully….

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