Odds and Ends from Poop Island
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT
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First of all the Cougars have bailed out of a return game in Hawaii for next season. They had to pay $300,000 to do it. So what are they going to do to replace Hawaii? My bet is they schedule a home game against Idaho or a Big Sky team.
If I was a WSU fan I would be hacked off by the decision. We made the trip to Hawai with Washington two years ago and had a great time despite the last minute loss. We consoled ourselves that it would mean the termination of Tyrone Willingham which would have made our vacation complete. It didn't happen but we still got a nice tan!
This in from Vince Grippi of the Spokesman Review.
WSU's Kevin Norrell and Joshua Garret were arrested for a multitude of things over the weekend. Norrell was tagged with a DUI, Reckless Driving, Criminal Trespass, and last and not least Not Possessing a Valid Drivers License or ID. Garrett who was apparently with him picked up the infamous "Pullman Special" Minor Exhibiting the Effect of Drinking Alcohol charge.
Norrell was suspended from the team and word on Garrett will come later.
You have to wonder if Paul Wulff and his staff are ever going to get control of this football team. The arrests are coming one after another with no end in sight. If I was Wullf I would have the boosters buy a party bus and just drive the team around from bar to bar on the weekend. Just make sure the Lobster isn't driving.
Speaking of the Lobster he is going to be getting more pine time. Kevin Lopina who apparently was on his best behavior after the game will not be splitting time with the Lobster next week. If you watched the WSU game any momentum they had came to a screeching halt with the arrival of the Lobster. It wasn't exactly his fault and you have to question why the WSU staff abandoned a run game that was working in favor of switching to a passing game with your second string QB.
Truth is better than fiction. You simply can't make up stuff like this.
The administration at WSU has to realize by now that Wulff wasn't the right choice and he wasn't close to being ready to being a Pac 10 head coach. The mess at Eastern shows he wasn't exactly a details type of guy. Even though he is the lowest paid coach in the Pac 10 they really can't afford to buy him out either. If they could buy him out who would they hire when an untried top assistant like Sark runs in the $2 million neigborhood?
Ladies and gentleman I would like to reintroduce you to the former king of "Poop Island" Mike Price. Mike has a pretty good gig going in El Paso. Everyone likes him and the expectations are low. Despite that Price could be tempted to return to the area he plans to retire in for one last go-round. If Price turned around WSU one more time it would help erase that nasty "Roll Tide Roll...It's Rolling Baby" stigma he unfairly picked up at Alabama.
Price didn't leave on really good terms by the way even though his last game was in Pasadena. There are still some hurt feelings on both sides. Price didn't feel appreciated and WSU admin types said don't let the screen door hit you on the way out.
Price may not be the answer because he isn't exactly a spring chicken...WSU on the other hand may not have a better option. One thing is for sure...Paul Wulff is running out of time and Price is affordable.
(Note to Coug fans...we have lived in this kind of hell before...it isn't fun. Since we are just about to end a 15 game losing streak it isn't like we suddenly have everything handled.)
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Two comments:
1) Do you think they’re kicking themselves for canceling the traditional game vs. Idaho?
2) I read somewhere amidst all the preseason media jabber that Price is one of those coaches “on the hot seat.”
You can't blame Coug fans for blatant homerisim
We’re (almost) all guilty of the same thing. That said, most casual observers can tell you that Wulff is not ready for a D-1, let alone a Pac-10 head coaching job. He doesn’t have the recruiting nor the game planning chops to lead WSU back to any sort of relevance.
I feel strongly that any good leader should be able to land a top 20 class in Pullman. If Pete Carrol, Nick Saban, Les Miles or Urban Meyer were to suddenly move to Pullman, they could almost all certainly pull a top 4 (in the Pac-10) class, even with the obvious geographical disadvantages. Gainsville isn’t exactly a bustling metropolis full of well educated and socially adjusted people, but somehow I feel like I could reel in quite a class if I were in Meyer’s place.
I’d like to see the Cougs get back to a fairly prominent run in the conference. It only helps the UW and the Pac-10 as a whole when all teams in the conference, and more notably, in the state are strong. Please Mr. Sterk, get this back on track for the sake of all schools with a vested interest with your success.
I feel strongly that any good leader should be able to land a top 20 class in Pullman. If Pete Carrol, Nick Saban, Les Miles or Urban Meyer were to suddenly move to Pullman, they could almost all certainly pull a top 4 (in the Pac-10) class, even with the obvious geographical disadvantages. Gainsville isn’t exactly a bustling metropolis full of well educated and socially adjusted people, but somehow I feel like I could reel in quite a class if I were in Meyer’s place.
I think you’re nuts. I don’t think any coach would be capable of pulling a top-20 class to Pullman on a regular basis.
There’s a lot of big time differences between Gainesville and Pullman and Florida and WSU – the biggest being that Florida has the highest concentration of football talent in the country, and the next biggest being that Florida has a tradition of excellent football, and WSU doesn’t. There’s a lot of other differences, but those are the biggest ones.
Location doesn't factor in as much as people think...
It certainly doesn’t help, but WSU can pull good classes on a regular basis if they have a good leader at the helm. They can never seem to find the guy who can make kids gravitate towards him and his staff. The campus and area at WSU isn’t as bad as we all like to make it out to be.
If you have a striking figure who can awe kids into buying into what he’s selling, Afghanistan U could pull a top 20 class. Wulff isn’t the guy and while Price was a good X’s and O’s coach he wasn’t either. If they ever hope to reach that upper echelon for an extended period of time they need to hire that guy from the lower ranks (who’s shown he’s competent…unlike Wulff) and give him “real” time to build.
Wether we think they should be or not, they are a Pac-10 school and that alone can go a long way.
In an alternate universe
UW would be unstoppable if it were the only D1A school in Washington similar to LSUs situation, hard to imagine that the Cougs could be so incompetent that they would have to drop football but you wouldn’t know that from their recent moves, either football or financial.
by mynameisdavid on Sep 8, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
"Location doesn't factor in as much as people think . . ."
I really want to agree with you, and I think you have some good points, but I’m betting you’ve never been to Pullman. As an Air-Ambulance pilot in Seattle, I have the pleasure of flying to just about every city in Washington with a runway big enough to land a Learjet. I would go as far as to call my self an geographical expert on the state of Washington. That being said, Pullman is the armpit of the state. There is NOTHING out there, there is NOTHING redeeming about it, there is NO reason to even have a city out there. It really is a forgotten little town out in the FAR corner of the state.
Let me list a few cities that would have been a MUCH better choice to put WSU: Bellingham, Mt. Vernon, Bremerton, Olympia, Hoquiam, Kelso, Longview, Vancouver, Yakima, Wenatchee, Omak, Moses Lake, Kennewick, Pasco, Richland, Walla Walla, and Spokane, just to name a few. ALL of these cities are bigger and offer far more than Pullman. I will be forever confused why anybody in there right mind would put a university in Pullman.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Yeah, Pullman was an odd choice for the other State school. Hard to understand how Spokane, Yakima, Wenatchee or any of the Tri-Cities didn’t end up with Washington State College.
Yakima turned it down for the State Fair...
I am not making it up…WSU could have been in a lot of different places but nobody wanted it at the time but Pullman.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Was it WSU they turned down for the State Fair? For some reason I thought it was Central they turned down…
From History Link
The enabling legislation stipulated that the college be located in the southeastern corner of the state, but left the selection of a specific site up to a three-member committee, appointed by the governor. The committee visited several small towns in the region, including Pullman, but disbanded without making a recommendation. A second committee initially deadlocked between Yakima and Pullman but finally selected Pullman, perhaps swayed by the town’s promise of a generous gift of some of its own land for the college. The decision, announced on April 27, 1891, set off a two-day celebration in the self-styled "little star of the Palouse," during which all the businesses closed — except for the three saloons, considered "indispensable to the occasion"
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Strange decisions were made back then
Santa Fe got to choose between a state prison or a college (UNM). They chose the jail because it would have more employees and Albuquerque got the school.
Same deal made here...
Or so the story goes. Walla Walla had the choice between college or state pen. WW chose the pen. Pullman got the college.
In a twist of irony, both facilities have been attended by many of the same people over the years….
Zing!
I gotta admit, that was pretty funny. But then I remembered the “Victory and Ruins” series in the Times.
And I laughed harder.
Don't worry, Nuss.
The way you guys have been performing off the field lately, I’m sure you’ll get your very own special series ripping your school and program to shreds.
We would laugh too, but it would be too mean to laugh at such a sad program.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I kid because I care
It would be nice, though, if we had a Rose Bowl championship and not the worst team in school history to show for it.
Having bad character and winning is OK, and having high character and losing is OK …. but to have low character and lose is just unacceptable.
I kid, well, because you're a coug!
So given your statement, which I fully agree, how much longer does WSU put up with Wolff?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Got to it shortly after replying up here. Thanks.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
This is true...
but Pullman is a relatively nice place besides the complete lack of anything to do. WSU is in the worst place possible though.
Location is certainly a factor, and it’s a big one for Pullman. It takes the right kind of kid to be attracted to a place like Pullman – either they’re desperate to play Pac-10 ball and have few other options, or they really want to get away from an urban environment.
I don’t think we’ll ever know if a top coach can pull in top-20 classes regularly there, because whenever WSU gets a top coach, that coach gets poached quickly to a bigger school.
that is a good point...
but one day someone will realize that if they can succeed in Pullman that they should just stay put. Why screw up a gig where if you go to two BCS bowls in 8 years that you cannot be fired for the next 15.
It’s a matter of resources – it would be very hard to convince a high level coach to stick around in Pullman, because most coaches want the opportunity to succeed at the highest levels, and it’s challenging enough for WSU to win the conference, let alone win a National Championship. If you have the competitive desire to succeed in coaching, you’re probably also not going to feel satisfied with what can realistically be accomplished on a regular basis at WSU.
They’ve had upper level coaches there before, but few stick around – Dennis Erickson left after 2 years, Jackie Sherrill left after 1 year, Warren Powers left after 1 year. Granted, that was before Mike Price broke through and proved that WSU can win the conference in the modern age, but I don’t think WSU’s profile has really risen much (if at all) in the last 30 years, especially with the hole they’ve sunk to in the last couple of years.
WSU would need something remarkable to happen, such as a rich sugar-daddy to boost their facilities and/or an extraordinary coach that for whatever reason felt comfortable sticking around Pullman. I’m not sure WSU can do better in that regard than Mike Price…
Huh?
I can’t remember a single top 20 class WSU’s history. Even when Mike Price was at his apex WSU was hard pressed to have a top five Pac 10 class.
Hell…not even Dennis Erickson never had a top twenty class at WSU.
The Pullman/Moscow area is the toughest area to recruit to in the country. You might as well try to sell kids on Saskatoon or Fargo. Actually those two places are more cosmopolitan.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The class right after the Rose Bowl was pretty highly regarded
But that’s about the only one I can remember. And I’m not even sure how highly it was ranked.
Scout.com has the 2004 class at 21 nationally and 3rd in the Pac-10
that was the Bumpus and Jerome Harrison class…I can’t find much else that was above 40 nationally and 5/6th in the Pac-10.
Again I think it goes back to finding the right coach who has that “it factor” that can make kids gravitate towards the program. WSU also hasn’t had huge luck in the sleeper department from what I can remember, not to say that there hasn’t been quite a few productive sleepers. Just not a ton of early contributors that only went the WSU route beacuse they had FCS and WAC offers. If I recall correctly, the Rose Bowl seasons were the effect of a solid (if not spectacular) experienced team. Perfect storm kind of scenario.
Correct me if I’m wrong Nuss.
The 1997 (1998 Rose Bowl) season for sure
That was a crazy confluence of tons of seniors and an otherworldly quarterback; the following season the Cougs won three games.
The 2002 season was a lot different — that had been building for a couple of years, and team won 10 games and the Holiday Bowl over Texas the next season.
Rose Bowl Class
I think it was in the top five of the Pac 10…may have approached the top twenty. It had to be the highest one I remember. The Coug’s need a coach that can identify the diamondsinthe rough like PEtersen does at Boise and get them to play together in a cohesive unit. Price regularly plucked Husky leftovers we improperly identified…Long is a great example…Boyd another…the list is long.
What WSU could really use right now is another Drew Bledsoe, Ryan Leaf, or Jack Thompson who elevates everyone around him.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Drama, Drama, Drama
Between Oregon and Wazzu, the Pac10 is going to become the conference of drama!!! If you are a Husky fan, you are loving all this drama, nothing like watching your rivals self destruct! It can only make Sark’s job easier, UW’s rise to the top will be quicker and easier thanks to the geniuses at WSU and Oregon.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
That would be nice for us to rise again quickly...
but eventually we’ll be the new Cal. We’ll be perennially trying to convince pundits and pollsters that WSU and Oregon are legit opponents.
The new Cal?
…..and you want to be my Latex salesman? (Jerry Seinfeld to George Costanza)
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the problem Cal has now...
they can’t breakthrough with so many down Pac-10 teams. USC might have a down 5 years here and there but if we rise back to the top I don’t see a NC in our future with a down Oregon, OSU, WSU and/or USC.
I don’t want our rivals to self distruct, I want UW to become better than all of them. All the Pac-10 teams need to become strong again if we want all these better bowl games, better TV contracts and respect we keep clamoring for.
When you are 50 years old
What Oregon and Cal have done recently is only a couple blinks of the eye.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I should have phrased that differently...
although I didn’t ever claim that I wasn’t off my rocker. Speaking of Latex salesman, I have a couple of decent leads…I’ll talk to you later in the week about it.
Nice!!!
I am in Seattle for the Idaho game so Kent is going to try to get us all together for a bit!
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Definately
This weekend is a bit rough but I’ll talk to Kent about it. I’ll make it work one way or another.
In the epic words of Frank the Tank “Actually we’ve got a nice little Saturday planned. Were going to Home Depot to pick out some wallpaper, then maybe we’ll hit Bed Bath and Beyond… I dont know! I dont know if well have enough time!”
My break is about over, I should get back to work. Have a good one guys!
With this economic climate, it’s going to be even harder for WSU to succeed. When you have conference rivals paying top assistants more than WSU is paying their head coach, that really says something.
WSU has to deal with a whole host of issues when hiring a coach. First, they obviously have to pull lower division head coaches, as there are few Division 1 schools that they can poach from. Pulling a top assistant is tough too – the hot assistants are always going to look for higher profile gigs than WSU, and then there’s the question of salary.
To top it off, if you’re WSU you have to weigh how much longevity matters. If they do land a hot-shot assistant, they have to worry how long they’ll stick around if successful, and whether it’s worth it to have a guy for 2-3 years that builds up the program only to bolt. And you also have to factor in how much it matters to have some familiarity with WSU and Pullman. It obviously was a factor in why they picked Wulff instead of another Division 1-AA coach with a better track record.
I don’t envy the WSU AD position – that’s a challenging gig.
Agreed
For instance, if WSU wanted to poach a UW coach they’d have to go for one of the position coaches. They don’t even offer enough cash to get one of our coordinators!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
They couldn't afford Jimmy Dougherty
Just saying…
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
ohmigod...
….thank you thank you thank you for citing “I’m rolling Baby” one more time. I thought for sure that we would never hear about that again. I’m still lmao which makes typing very difficult. A classic coug moment … proof that you can take the coug away from the school, but you can’t take the coug from the man (yes, I know it is all BS, but man is it funny).
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Gekko
Like you…suspect strongly it was all BS….but a classic Coug moment!
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
"PRISON NATION" is alive and well.
Cenrtral Washington University has probably the two best Coaches in Division ll… Head Coach Blaine Bennett and Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator Joe Lorig. WSU was only good when Price was there. The Cougs are the perennial Cellar Dwellars
WSU has its moments
They have to be creative….they have to gamble…they have to work smarter…they have to find more diamonds in the roug….sometimes they win sometimes they lose. In a perfect world they hire Chris Petersen.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't afford Petersen either!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Petersen is waiting out the Oregon Job...
unless somebody like Notre Dame comes tossing $4 million a year in his face he’ll probably wait it out. Looks like it could be sooner than later.
He could have had it last year...
Petersen took a pass on Oregon.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Mike B
was enamored with Kelly and named him Coach in Waiting so that they didn’t lose him to another school.
Really doubt it
Petersen for personal reasons isn’t ready to leave Boise.
It isn’t about money it is about family. He has a child with medical problems and is really comfortable with the care he has received in Boise.
When I think of Petersen I think of Mark Few…both could leave for Oregon or other higher paying jobs but they like the quality of life they currently have…when you have more money and security that you need why uproot the family and invite turmoil?
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
the oregon ship has sailed for Petersen.
… he’ll jump at some point. But he has very compelling reasons to stick around Boise for awhile.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Don't worry, I wasn't implying the Petersen would be interested.
Boise State to WSU would be a step backwards IMHO IMO. Okay, so I’m a pilot and need to work on being more humble.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Couple of points of clarification
1. The game was for 2011, not next year.
2. The game likely will be replaced with a big road payday, a la recent contests against Auburn and Wisconsin. That’s the only way to justify paying out $300,000 to drop that game — I’m guessing there will be a ~$800K payday coming back to make it a net gain.
Nuss
1. Gotcha
2. Trade a possible win and a nice tan for a likely loss…yuck…I guess that is the economic reality. We just traded a win to play LSU. We could have had Montana State. No way do I want a piece of Montana.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
No Nuss bashing!
Nuss and Grady are friends of the blog. If we are talking about WSU their participation is a huge plus. You ever visit Coug Center? Those guys have a real high football IQ.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow...great question
Here is a list of the seven canidates WSU chose from any of the guys in this list would have taken the job:
John L. Smith…former head coach at Idaho, Louisville, and Michigan State.
Mike Price…former head coach at Weber State, WSU, Alabama, and currently at UTEP.
Paul Wulff…head coach at EWU.
Bob Gregory…WSU grad who is the DC at Cal.
Dave Christensen…UW grad who was the OC at Missouri and now head man at Wyoming.
Brady Hoke…Head coach at Ball State who is currently at San Diego State.
Ray Sherman…WR coach in the NFL who was the token interview.
Wulff and Sherman would have been the two guys I would have eliminated first.
John L. Smith would have been on helluva pick, and he still would be.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Christensen
he was a stellar coordinator, and I think he would have been a steal for WSU. I was never really enamored with Smith, I saw a couple of his Louisville teams that were good, but that was pre Big-East.
Smith is interesting
The fall of John L. Smith is almost as interesting as Mike Price.
John L. can coach….a good percentage ot the current Husky staff are his proteges.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He was hired before we launched the site
And I was doing basketball only at my previous blog. So, I didn’t ever really put a ton of thought into it. Wulff didn’t wow any of us in the first place, for obvious reasons. (Well, except for Walden. But it doesn’t take much to wow him.) But then again, neither did Mike Price when he was hired in 1989. We understand that Sterk operates with limitations other schools don’t have, and we’ve come to trust him.
I’m not convinced Wulff’s not the guy. The offseason gains in the weight room — which were DRAMATIC — showed me a lot. I mean, a lot of times coaches say things like, “These guys are in the best shape of their lives” or fudge with weights on the depth chart. But these guys really, really look different. This is not a coach or SID blowing smoke. If he can get that out of guys coming off the worst season in school history, as well as sign a respectable recruiting class, he’s certainly doing something right.
There were things last year that really pissed me off — not even trying to score against USC being chief among them — but we’re moving in the right direction. I think there definitely was a “welcome to the big time” element last year, and at times it was obvious he and his staff were in just a little over their heads. But the program was so utterly devoid of talent, I’m not sure there’s a coach in America that could have done much more than he did. Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Mack Brown … maybe the team’s a little more competitive, maybe picks up another win or two. But that’s about it.
I’ll wait until the end of next year to truly decide if this was a good or bad hire. He’s got to get — and develop — some of his own guys before we get a sense of whether he truly can win in Pullman.
I guess that’s a long way to say I don’t think I’d trade him right now for any other guy who’d actually consider coming to WSU for a reasonable price … and sticking around for a while.
Oh and by the way, I appreciate that you are willing to come here and discuss this kind of stuff with us.
The strategy of going lower division isn't bad ...
… you just need to do your vetting a little better.
Retreads are a good way to go. Look at Terry Bowden – he’s coaching lower division now (North Alabama, I think). So, who are the retreads out there who need work OR might be compelled to come to WSU at a fair price?
. Mike Price
. Larry Coker
. Mike Shula
. Glen Mason
. Norm Chow (hey, why not??)
Young up and comers (e.g. Tim Brewster) who can recruit small towns, unearth rough diamonds and innovate are the other option. You could argue that Wulff fits this mold. Obviously, these are harder guys to evaluate. Some that I think might have potential:
. Bobby Hauck
. Turner Gill
. Jim Michalczik
. DeWayne Walker
…. I can’t think of any other ones right off the top of my head
This is as much thinking about the Cougs as I can do in one sitting.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Retreads and up and comers
Great list Gecko!
The Treads
Price will always be on the short list. No WSU coach ever approached his level of success.
Glen Mason is an interesting choice who would be willing.
Nobody wants Chow for some reason. He gets paid more as an assistant anyway.
Don’t forget John L. Smith…he would jump at it.
Up and comers
Hauck…He won’t leave Montana for WSU. Montana is his home. If he leaves Montna it will be for a bigger target.
Gill…I love that idea for WSU but would he love it for more than a year or two?
Michalczik…Not the head coaching type.
Walker…New Mexico State is a grave he won’t climb out of if he stays another year or two.
Great list.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The Best WSU choice and the one WSU passed on
Mike Levensellar! Other then Walden, that guy is Mr. Coug. He’s very familiar with how things operate at WSU, he knows the WSU recruiting trails and would bring in tons of ex Cougs to be decent assistant coaches.
Levenseller never got an interview, yet WSU took Wulff? I would wager that Sterk was suckered into a homer’s (Walden) recommendation.
All I saw was purple
Levenseller
If I remember correctly he had some edicational requirements he never finished and that held him out of consideration. I could be wrong…but remember hearing something like that.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 9, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that
But I cannot for the life of me find that anywhere. In fact, Sterk said in this story that Levenseller was going to be considered for the job.
Yeah what a joke...
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Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
Stupid Question
I just have to ask. What about Pat Hill for the fictional (at this time) WSU job? It would elevate him to the PacX and he has had success at Fresno State. Just throwing this out for discussion.
"Anytime, Anyplace"
"Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne
Fantastic question
The best possible hire WSU could make would be Pat Hill and he would take the job. He would be the perfect fit at WSU.
by John Berkowitz on Sep 8, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Hill would be a good fit at WSU, with the added bonus for them that he’d likely have a chip on his shoulder about the UW. But by the time WSU feels they can afford to fire Wulff, Hill would be 59 or 60. At best they’d probably be looking at 5-7 years if they hired him – is that long enough?
I suppose if the Wulff era is a disaster that it would be…
Hill
I liked hill for the UW job, obviously sark is great choice and probably the correct choice
by mynameisdavid on Sep 9, 2009 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions
WSU...
…wouldn{t exactly be an upward move, more like to the middle of nowhere!
East till you smell it, south till you step in it!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
is it fair
to call Fresno the Pullman of CA? It’s at least the Ellensburg.
"Anytime, Anyplace"
"Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne
No it's not fair
I actually flew over Pullman a few hours ago, it’s absolutely amazing how small and how remote Pullman is. I don’t think there is any city in California that is that small, or that remote. I’d be really curious to see where Pullman ranks in terms of size compared to other cities in Washington. I bet it doesn’t make the top 50.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I stand corrected!
I’ve never been so happy to be wrong, Pullman the 37th largest city in the state of Washington, good find kirkd!
I guess I should be rather happy that Pullman isn’t located in Spokane, then they might actually have the resources to be competitive with the UW.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
The Chipper?
I’m anticipating pimp daddy phil opts to fire Chip Kelly and takes BSU’s Chris Peterson. The Chipper would be available…
All I saw was purple
15 game losing streak??
Pretty sure Wazzu won the Apple Cup last year. What are you talking about?
random thoughts
condotta stated in his blog that it could be a precursor to the UW revamping Husky Stadium, as his sources said it was for PAC10 scheduling reasons. Of course that gets WSU out of an expensive road game, but probably will hurt recruiting even more.
I believe Wulff is not the answer for WSU but they can’t afford the buyout so when the destruction is complete, it will be an even more uphill road back than UW post TY. John L Smith looks to be the best solution although Pat Hill and Price would also be good picks.
Since i am staying in SEA for 3 weeks due to home schedule, went to my first practice and coaches show yesterday. Practice was high energy, lots of movements to maximize time spent on various situations. Liked the zebras presence there too. Coaches are definitely more jazzed than previous regime. When i drove to Anthony’s for coaches show, i was shocked at parking lot and thought someone must be having a wedding reception. Nope, the bar was packed (SRO) and many had been there over an hour or so. Sark received a very warm reception from crowd and i do mean crowd. Last couple of years, there had been no more than 20 or so fans there to listen to the non commital answers. Heck, even Tia for her show seemed to have as many as TW did in the last year. I guess there were 100- 150 there and Anthony’s made a killing. I would have had more than 1 beer but the place was so packed i couldn’t get more than one. The crowd was also a great mix of us older seniors and some young and middle aged guys and gals too. The demographics was good for the future.
As for the Dawgs overlooking Idaho, NOT. this group of coaches ain’t going to let that happen from what I saw at practice. We will get back to the old days where we take care of business early, and then bayonet and eviscerate them while they are on the ground.
For those of you planning on attending practice, Wed will start at 2 pm, thursday at 4 pM according to who I asked. Missed the first half hour yesterday as I showed up just before 3 yesterday.
Sark is...
…magnetic and is bringing the fans back in spades!!!!!! GO DAWGS!!
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