"He can run, but he can't hide and we will find him!"
by John Berkowitz on Jun 17, 2009 7:06 AM PDT
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The Texas District Attorney has made it a priority to bring former WSU Cougar QB Ryan Leaf to justice back in Texas. He was quoted that he would form a dragnet and extradite him from Vancouver, BC. if he doesn't turn himself in to Texas authorities by Thursday.
A warrant for Leaf's arrest has been out since May 20, when a grand jury issued nine indictments related to alleged use of a prescription painkiller medication. Leaf faces up to 20 years in prison on the felony burglary charge alone!
As we said earlier Texas is about the worst place in the country to be doing something wrong and be caught. Expect Ryan to do quite a bit of time in the slammer if convicted and that conviction is pretty certain in Texas.
On the other side of the coin staying in British Columbia may just be a better option for Leaf if he wants to avoid jail time. While the Texas DA is making some big noise he may not realize that it isn't exactly easy to get someone extradited from the province.
We will see what happens on Thursday and if the promised dragnet commences.
Once again I think the best thing to do in this matter is get Ryan the help he needs rather than throw him in jail for twenty years. The guy is a complete screw up but the punishment needs to fit the crime in my opinion. Of course I am not in Texas.
Don't mess with Texas!
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Jason Gesser was on KJR and it was interesting what he said of Leaf. When Gesser guided the Cougs to the Rose Bowl, Leaf was the only one of the previous Coug QB’s who didn’t call to congratulate.
He also said that the times he’s spoken to Leaf the conversations have always gravited back to Leaf and what he has accomplished.
Living in Texas I can tell you that..
the state will try its hardest to get Leaf in jail for the maximum time
by subliminalnirvanaist on Jun 17, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
I guess I just don't have any sympathy
If you don’t want to do the time, don’t do the crime. I have no sympathy for people who believe they don’t have to follow the same rules and laws that the rest of us do. The best way to keep other people, especially other college athletes to go down the same path as Leaf, is to lock him away for a few years. Prison might not be the best thing for Leaf, but it is by far the best thing for the rest of society.
I’m really sick and tired of people blaming their problems on the way they were raised, or because of the tough times they had to go through. There is only one person to blame, yourself. If I get so much as one speeding ticket, I will have to explain it at each and every interview for the rest of my flying career, so I follow the rules. Texas is a great state, and will remain a great state, if you break the rules you get punish. Guess what, people are much less likely to break the rules in Texas.
Ron White on Texas – Blue Collar Comedy Tour: “Most states are trying to abolish the death penalty, my state is putting in an express lane!”
Don’t mess with Texas!!!
"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"
I agree with you Lear 100%
Years ago I had an addiction problem. I knew very well what I was doing and it was my fault. Luckly I saw where I was headed and decided to make a change in my life, Several of my friends wern’t so lucky but they have nobody to blame but themselves. It’s sad what has happened to Ryan but he’s had not only the resources but the support that many other addicts just don’t have. Good luck to Ryan in the future and hopefully he can make a change.
There is a saying about walking in another mans moccasins
As usual, we pass judgement without the whole story. True enough, Leaf has never done anything to endear himself to anyone. By most accounts, he is an overblown jerk. Just the same, prescription drugs are not a laughing matter, and there are many who are addicted thru no fault of their own. While I agree with much of what is said, it does not sound like Leaf became addicted from fun and games, but from prescribed drugs for pain. I have one very close relationship who had virtually the same problem, it almost killed him, and he is still fighting the problem daily even after two years of very hard work.
I think if you were to check the statistics, Texas is no better than any other state at keeping people from committing illegal activity. They execute at record rates, but seem to murder at a high rate as well. What they do have in large numbers are people locked up, on the publics dime.
Well said. I don’t think anyone is excusing the crime that Leaf committed, they’re saying he needs to address the root problem which is his painkiller addiction.
painkiller addiction...
I have a buddy who is addicted to pills and they are very difficult to quit. They are also expensive so he has to steal to pay for them. Which starts the cycle of going back to jail again. Its a real shame how screwed up your life can get and there is very little that can be done to fix the addiction. I feel bad for him and especially his family.
by mynameisdavid on Jun 17, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It's terrible...
I was at one point addicted myself, luckily I was young enough that somebody could tell me what to do and I was able to kick it. My friend overdosed on Morphine and passed when I was 17 and that was a big shock as well. I still have friends to this day that battle to stay sober.
These drugs can kill and addictions are very troublesome to me. I hope Ryan can be victorious against his deamons and go on to live a normal sober life.
Flirting with Destructive Behavior
Leaf has been firting with destructive behavior ever since he left Pullman. With that said, why the hell did he decide to make camp in the toughest state of the union? Doesn’t he know they will cruicify you if you break the law down there?
The longer he stays away, the tougher the sentence is going to be. My guess is Leaf is broke and cannot afford great council- therefore he split. The longer he sits in Canada the tougher the sentence will be.
Some folks just don’t get it. I’m willing to bet that Leaf got a taste of the good life, lost it, and can’t recover from it. Shame…
All I saw was purple
Wow I thought I saw he was doing something related to sports, Last year now this.
I have a friend who is a blackout drunk and is now doing his third stint in prison, he truly has a problem. The only thing is they never help him with the problem just put him away dry him up and set him loose to fail again. I hope this person gets help, people who have not harmed others should not go to prison they should be in a program to get better.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Jun 17, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions
Step 1 and Step 2
What usually happens is that a person has to hit rock bottom before he/she sees the destructive path. Leaf is definitely sitting in the catbird seat on this. If he doesn’t see how destructive his life has been thus far, then NOBODY can help him. The first step is recongizing the problem, the second step is doing somthing positive about it. Nobody can help Ryan Leaf but Ryan Leaf himself.
It’s time for him to put away all the fan fair, trophies, and glorious memories of yesteryear. Tomorrow will still come as the sun sets and rises. Leaf can’t “get help”, he needs to come to grips with who he has become, look in the mirror, and if he doesn’t like that person then he alone can do something about it. Recognition is the key to success just like in football- BABY!
All I saw was purple
Leaf has not hit Rock Bottom
He has played a scam game with the Prosecutor out of Texas. He fled to Canada thinking his problems were going to be solved. He is a Criminal and he be punished under the full extent o the Law. His problem in College was Mike Price didn’t say NO to him…he let Leaf March to a different drummer. Leaf is not a memory… he is just a name in the history books. Possible Good QB turned Loser.
by bigdawgdaddy999 on Jun 18, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions
Pretty much agree
I think he is still living a fantasy that he will be able to get out of this. It shows how narsistic and naive he is. Once they get him down in Texas,,,and they will…he is going to get hammered. Every single thing he does to delay this is going to add to his time in jail. i don’t think he or his attorney realize how tough Texas is going to be. We are talking Judge Roy Bean tough in the county he will be tried in.
His attorney seems to think they can work out a plea deal with probation. That would probably float in Washington State but in Texas they usually insist you spend some time for the crime.
I have said all along that what he really need is help…perhaps part of the help is bein incarcerated.
Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There’s no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell’s at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed… spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top… the top sheet on the bottom… and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one’ll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don’t bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I’m Carr, the floor walker. I’m responsible for order in here. Any man don’t keep order spends a night in…
by John Berkowitz on Jun 19, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like what we got here
is a failure to communicate. Leaf has had honors, money, and drugs; maybe what he needs is a night in the box.
All in good clean fun: Leaf on the Lamb
I’ve spent my entire life never wishing bad things upon folks. Now if the crime is committed then he/she must pay back society. Even though Texas is a tough state on criminals, I don’t think Leaf does much time at all behind bars. I think he will have his day in court and I think it will all be plea bargained down to some sort of probation/rehab deal.
I don’t know the circumstances of the case, but keep in mind we are talking about prescription pain relief meds. Now I don’t want to sound like I am poo pooing this away- he did break the law and therefore must be punished. But is prescription pain relief meds the same as crack, dope, pot, or pschodelic mushrooms- sorry Zags but I couldn’t resist.
Again I’ve lived my life never wishing bad stuff on others and in this case I don’t with Ryan Leaf. I think Leaf is on the edge of a total breakdown, I think his life is and has been garbage up until the point he left Pullman. I just hope he can figure out a better path thru life and come to terms with the fact that he is not in the spotlight anymore. His name has become a punch line and that is completely crazy, even for a Coug.
Notice how the WSU-friendly media is downplaying all this Leaf: A Man on the Lamb story and not associating it w/ WSU? I read an article pertaining to WSU summer camps and how Gesser is one of the instructors. Nothing mentioned about Leaf on the lamb in the story.
One thing is for sure- if you are from the state of Washington and associate with WSU, having one of your greatest QBs on the lamb is not good for your reputation, not good for recruiting, and not good for publicity. Wolff has got to really hate the press Leaf is getting from this.
Note: Leaf didn’t leave the country because he was seeking treatment. The guy got scared and ran.
All I saw was purple
Sione Potoae & Tevin Carter Reaffirm Commitments to UDub!
According to Dawgman both Potoae and Carter have reaffirmed their commitments to Washington. Not sure what or how this happened, but this is the biggest news since Nick Montana.
I was a little hesitant to think that these guys might jet. I think they see what we and all the other fine recruits see, Sark and Holt mean business! They see the window of opportunity opening and I now it is not a very popular opinion, but I do believe Washington, Ucla, and Arizona State are the only schools in the Pac 10 that can unseat USC for the Pac 10 title.
Oregon, Oregon State, and Cal have all had their shots at dethroning Tommy Trojan and each time have come up short. The Ducks, Beavs, and Bears don’t have our fanbases, they don’t have our resources, and they don’t have the tradition of excellence in their corners.
Welcome to HuskyNation fellas! Sione, I want you to be a MAD DAWG in the trenches and make no mistake- we don’t lose to the ducks! We’ve got to get back to that in a hurry.
Tevin- you have the talent and the ability to be as good as you wanna be! Work hard while you are a youngster. That way you can land a starting position earlier then expected, don’t stop working on your game until you’ve become an All American candidate.
Go Dawgs! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
According to Dawgman both Potoae and Carter have reaffirmed their commitments to Washington. Not sure what or how this happened, but this is the biggest news since Nick Montana.
Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but nothing has changed with Potoae or Carter – the change in their commitment status with Scout.com is simply an administrative change. According to Fetters, he’s been told that it’s Scout’s policy to only list a commitment as “soft” if the commit has taken official visits to other schools. Since that hasn’t happened (yet) for either of those players, they have been reverted back to “verbal” instead of “soft commit”. But nothing has actually changed in regards to either player – they both are still planning on taking visits elsewhere when the time comes.
Information overload
This article on Leaf is now 4 days old. What’s wrong? This is mid-June, practically the heart of football season, where are the new articles? Seriously, I am a starved fan for good news about the Huskies, and I was fed too much info last week about Montana and the other commits. With no new info, I think we seek out to find something new. Some “technical” status change of Potoae and Carter get us excited. Over on Bob C’s blog someone claimed the same thing about the Cali kicker.
In the ’80’s I remember listining to Wayne Cody’s radio show with the HS guru talking about the new recruiting class, on LOI day. That is still 7 months away, and we know so much more about the current crop of kids. As much as I want to read about something today, I’m going to sign off and wait for the Monday Morning Wash. Happy fathers day.
Sarkisian knows how to close a deal
The man knows how to close a deal. Such a 180 degree change from where we were one year ago. I don’t blame a kid for wanting to look around…you only get to do this once. Sark will get these guys cloesed over time.
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