Cougar fans may end up getting a taste of their own medicine

I’m guessing Murray’s intent was to show the Cougs that they don’t want to be messing around with petty interstate rivalry business when it comes to this stuff. The revised bill won’t pass, but it should be a wake up call to WSU.

the cougs can kiss it, let’s pound them a few more years and let them go to the wac and live up to there potential, as the srubs of our state.

Until the coug fans learn some respect they can go under for all i care, go dawgs.

We have long standing traditional games elsewhere, i.e. Oregon, Oregon State and the rest of the league. Not to mention but USC could get a little more involved w/ us poaching away two marque coordinators from their staff.

The way the Apple Cup has been non-competitive lately what tv money is out there? I’m not buying the tv money arguement, we can get that elsewhere with other members of the league and us hosting major programs in nonleague action, i.e. Oklahoma, LSU, Notre Dame.

Have you seen our positive press lately? Most of the press seems to be pro Coug. I might be alone on this one, but I don’t think we need a welfare recipient in-state rival athletic department. I think if anything it just dummies down the credibility of the state when it comes to college athletics.

What I think it comes down to is if we can’t get a little funding for our stadium, then surely WSU should not be state-financed directly every single year. We ask for one funding bill and we get the big no. WSU takes welfare checks monthly. I’m completely done with anything remotely associated with WSU.

Oregon is a far more meaningful rivalry. If WSU falls into the backdrop over the next ten years, we’d wax nostalgic for a little while and then get focused exclusively on the Ducks.

the amendment was added earlier this week.

The cougs that testified at the Ways and Means committee hearing did nothing to endear themselves to the committee members. Pay backs can be a bitch.

It isn’t completely dead until the session ends and if it doesn’t pass I look for a modified version next session

WSU doesn’t win in the failed attempt to rennovate Husky Stadium. If they had a say in the matter, all they did was cut their opportunities down a notch if and when they need funding. Who wins? Dawgfan has it complete accurate. Oregon and Oregon State come out the winners. In this failed attempt both losers are Washington and Washington State. Yes Cougies, you lost too because no funding for you either.

Why have the Ducks and Beavs gone from medocracy to two of the best athletic programs in the Pac 10? Both programs have been well funded for almost a decade. Without funding Washington and Washington State will become less and less competitive [see football results in 08]. Blame the ex-coaching staff all you want but kids see major improvements in terms of UO facilities in Eugene and can visually see themselves playing ball there. Kids see the facility upgrades to Reser Stadium in Corvallis, and get a sense of a winning tradition there, when in reality it is a pscuedo-winning tradition.

In the past 8 years all the best recruits have gone to Eugene or Corvallis, what does Oregon and Oregon State have that Washington and Washington State doesn’t? They have the funding from the state legislature and we don’t. They’ve become the “haves” and we’ve become the “have nots”. End of story.

… unless the students are making donations to a fund of their own free will (which I believe is not the case), then anything that the university imposes upon all students is revenue generating and subject to the oversight of state education administration. The difference is that the fee is imposed on all students, whether or not they wished to participate. Those monies can be regulated just like any others collected by the university.

Nevertheless, it is clearly a stunt meant to draw attention. I agree with your sentiments.

and you play football and basketball AND and equal number of women sports. Don’t forget Title Nine, you will definitely be in the Big West if you don’t keep parity for women. This is a slippery slope, how far do you want to slide?

(but keep this quiet)

I don’t think any athletic department should be manditorily (is that a word?) supported by the general public. Although pro sports are another matter (Save our Sonics!) since in our state there is only one pro team in each sport and so the whole state supports it, it certainly seems unfair that UW fans should have to pay for WSU sports and so forth.

I’ve read back-and-forth’s between you and Nuss and Grady from CougCenter, where you both agreed more or less that WSU is situated in the wrong geographical location for fair competition in the Pac 10. I think that this is true and unfortunately is part of the deal for state taxpayers. I would much rather see our athletic department as a whole become self-sustaining. Realistically this will just mean more donations from alumni and possibly higher ticket prices and such.

I am not one of those Cougs that violently opposes the public funding, as I’m sure you know. I personally think the Cougs that are “appear[ing] at the public hearing” are either misinformed or willfully ignorant. “First remove the plank from your own eye, then you will see clearly to remove the speck in your brother’s eye.” and all that.

…as you said John it should have been handled like a home game every other year for each school. That would have allowed WSU first crack at most of the tickets when they were the home squad and UW the same thing the next year. As it was they wanted to split the tickets down the middle every year leaving thousands of loyal UW season ticket holders getting shut out of the APPLE CUP every year. That was NOT going to work. I surprised they didn’t see that from the beginning.

Completely agree that the Apple Cup/Quest Field deal and SB-6116 are linked. Is it a coinsidence that boht of these deals fell apart within a week of each other? WSU’s ill-conceived notion of attempting to block the rennovation project of Husky Stadium will come back and bit them in the butt. Meanwhile, Washington didn’t have any reason to play the Apple Cup at Quest. As of now we seat more then Quest and Martin can seat, we are already in Seattle. What was the motive for Washington to move the game to Quest? The only motivation was to offer WSU a little relief by being the good neighbor. Yet since WSU’s attempted block of SB-6116 was successful- Washington then backed out of a lame, but neighborly and WSU-friendly, idea to move the big game to Quest.

I’m done with anything remotely associated with WSU- they cut their own throats on this one. And if we could get out of the annual Apple Cup (hypothetically), I’d welcome it. The Apple Cup is WSU’s only real big game that turns a profit. They lose the Apple Cup and they don’t have much of a athletic department. We on the other hand could host another out of stater and still draw in a sell out.