"I am going to run your butt back to Oakland!"
by John Berkowitz on Apr 22, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
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PrintUW OL coach Dan Cozzetto doesn't mince words and those were his cleaned up words ( I am going to run your butt back to Oakland) for this publication to offensive lineman Allan Carroll all spring. Allan took those words to heart and decided that football and school just weren't for him anymore and he is headed back to Oakland.
RB Terrance Dailey who was Washington's leading rusher last fall also decided to call it quits because he couldn't cut the academic's. Bottom-line for both players is that they were not doing well in school and that means an end to their football careers at Washington.
I wasn't too surprised by Caroll since the coaches were riding him all spring but Dailey had some potential. He had a nice wiggle and hit the hole well. He should have hit the books as hard as he hit the hole.
If you are Will Shamburger and Nathan Fellner this is good news because they can come in this fall rather than wait for winter quarter. Expect more attrition between now and the start of fall camp. The coaches want to make room for at least twenty recruits in 2010 so something has to give with only twelve scholarships open for next year.
UW is down to only 13 scholarship offensive linemen plus senior Nick Scott who won a scholarship last fall after walking on.
It never fails to amaze me how some kids screw up the opportunity of a lifetime.
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The Prince of Darkness
Don’t mess with him!
by doubledeucedawg on Apr 22, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions
Kids are dumb...
I’m 24 and it took me getting to 20 and eating top ramen after getting my hours cut at Pizza Hut before I pulled my head out. I was a stupid kid who thought I could get by on my common sense and by being a people person.
I was lazy and it took screwing everything up to make me realize I wasn’t headed anywhere. The only good thing that can come of this is that maybe some of the guys on the edge right now will pick up the pace and suprise us all.
So what was the deal with Carrol?
Why was the staff riding him? He was a 4 star out of high school with alot of solid offers. I wonder if they just felt he didn’t have the mental make up for the position.
Lazy
Lazy in school and lazy on the field…good riddance.
Sure he was a four star but observers that saw him last year came away less than impressed. Stars mean nothing if the effort isn’t there.
We need to shed 14 players to make room for the next class. Two down and twelve more to go…it won’t be pretty.
If you want to go to the Rose Bowl there has to be an upgrade of personel and the only way you do that is to recruit better players.
by John Berkowitz on Apr 22, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You get behind on your academics and it's not pretty...
…if you’re tough you buckle down. If not you quit. It’s easier, right?
Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions
Ridiculous
In the case of Dailey, I agree with you, John. But with Caroll, we don’t know the whole story, so your insult in the end feels cheap.
I was in the #1 program in my major on a full scholarship. At the end of my freshmen year, I decided I just didn’t enjoy it any longer. I walked away from a full scholarship at an elite university to transfer to state school in the midwest, where I was much happier. Did I “screw up an opportunity of a lifetime,” or did I just make a good decision based on my own unique experience?
Go easy on the kid. Maybe he just doesn’t like football anymore. Best of luck to him.
Easy big fella...
I have no idea what the circumstances were around his decision to leave the team which is why I asked the question. We are all “wired” differently that doesn’t make us good or bad. But having a few friends that have played PAC-10 football including a lineman on our 1991 team I know most have to have a certain mentality to play the position successfully. I have no idea if it has anything to do with why he left. It just seems a bit odd as he seemed to have the physical talent to get in the rotation pretty soon in a position that we desperetly need bodies. Best of luck to him.
My insult?
Just quoting the coach.
He quit on himself, he quit on school, and he quit on his team…totally voluntary…it was his choice.
College football is a business…never forget that.
the coaches need to cut at least 14 players…this is just the start….two down twelve to go.
by John Berkowitz on Apr 22, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
John is just Playing the Loyalist
I think you are reading too much into John’s words there attackdawg. I think John is playing the part of the insane Husky fanbase. I too see it as a chance of a lifetime. But maybe this chance of a lifetime wasn’t for Carroll.
The point of all this is that we haven’t seen a “weed out” around here for quite some time. Coach Sark and Holt want hard-nosed football players- not softies. And whether you believe it or not, to be physically tough you have to be mentally tough. Maybe all the head games got to Carroll a little. Sark and Holt, along with Coz are playing head games with our kids to make them get tough mentally- this isn’t some new fangled way of doing things. The military has been doing since the inception of basic training.
What it comes down to is this is big time college football. As Colorado coach Dan Hawkins infamously said “THIS IS THE BIG 12- IT’S THE BCS! … If you can’t handle it, go play intramurals- brotha.”
We are going to have more kids leave. Some kids won’t be able to handle the pressure of the head games, some won’t be able to handle the riggers of the bigtime, others won’t make it academically, and some will just leave because the program isn’t for them. Bottom line is Sark and Holt want kids to quit. A successful football team doesn’t have quitters on the team. These coaches are going to ride their collective asses from here on out- GET USE TO IT! Why? Because that is how you find the real football players from the current stock and thus you can weed out the quitters. More attrition to follow…
All I saw was purple
To be fair and honest...
I didn’t finish college where I started…I walked away from football…don’t regret it but then again I was playing at a Division III school and simply wanted to concentrate on something else. If I had to do it over I would have concentrated solely on academics from the get-go but I had something personal to prove to myself. Lets face it…Division III is a hobby you play in front of 1500 people mostly on your own dime for the most part.
Giving up a full ride to UW because you can’t cut it in class is something completely different. With all the support these guys get I have little respect for that.
Crazi calling me an insane loyalist?
I take that as a compliment!
by John Berkowitz on Apr 22, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think what we all need to remember...
is that we are all Husky fans. And please make a note that we are going to make biased statements in regards to the program more often then not. I’ve been on this blog long enough to know when John is playing the loyalist and when he is playing the journalist. I on the other hand am playing the insane loyalist always. So if I am called out- please understand that I bleed Husky Purple.
Go Dawgs! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
You know...
…we can all look back and wonder what if but the reality is we made choices then as the young people that we were. Those decisions had consequences both good and bad.
Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions
Yeah I didn't feel like there was a cheap shot there...
….these are young kids but they’ve been thrown into a competitive real world environment. If you work your tail off, you can make it, if not maybe you need some time to get your head together.
Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions
I don't care..
if they all quit. 0-12. Still the same guys. The only way to get better is to work harder, longer and with more intensity than the other guys you play. Either get on the bus, or get off and make room. As others have said, it is a business. The new staff is trying to change the entire culture. Not an easy job, and some will not make it. I wish them well, but this is not the time for the faint of heart. First comes attitude, then comes better practice habits, then comes better execution, then comes a few wins, followed by better players who will learn the attitude from those who are here. Finally, comes successful seasons, bowl games, and maybe championships. Be prepared to be patient. Go Dawgs
The only way to get better is to work harder, longer and with more intensity than the other guys you play. Either get on the bus, or get off and make room.
Nice post Oly…and it applies to all aspects of life.
by John Berkowitz on Apr 22, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Put up or shut up
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. The cliches go on and on and on. I’m not surprised, and I don’t feel bad for the guy. If you don’t have the mental toughness to deal with coaches during practice, how in the world will you handle the pressure of a Pac10 game with the game on the line and the opposing crowd going crazy? You won’t.
"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"
Yeah these kids have tutors and...
…access to their profs that others don’t. If they can’t keep up then they’re not there yet.
Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions
Oops, wrong button
amazing how with the academic support available the kids still have problems. I realize many of these students didn’t have the best backgrounds in academics, but the support is amazing so when one of these kids fail, it is due to laziness.
On Carroll, if he didn’t enjoy it anymore, then he made the right decision for himself and Husky football simultaneously. He wasn’t right for the program and its time for all to move on. We all have life experiences where people quit for whatever reason, mine mostly in the Air Force fighter pilot world, and when somebody quit or was forced out due to tough love, the unit was better off immediately and for the long term. Best wishes to them individually in their future. Still, opportunity lost.
I guess that is my point...
The academic support system they can take advantage of is just amazing. stop by the new Crew House sometime and check out the study hall…wow.
I can see getting tired of football…but a degree from UW is your ticket to so many incredible opportunities. Getting five years of education with that type of support is a foolish thing to give up.
Like you I wish them the best in the future.
by John Berkowitz on Apr 23, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah you gotta admire...
…the ones that say, “WOW I’m getting a full ride! I’m going to keep working my arse off and ride this baby as long as I can!”
Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions
You look tired, maybe you should go back to the lockerroom
…or keep going to Oakland. That was the first outburst I heard from Coz at the first practice. Other bloggers lead me to believe that the target was Rosborough, so I was confused because he is from Long Beach. Now I know.
It does take a special personality
And there will be some weeding-out of guys who don’t belong in D-1 football. These same players though, may in turn thrive at a small school and still take home the great lessons of intercollegiate athletics.
Some may indeed be “wasting” an opportunity, as kids sometimes do. Others deserve our best wishes, and credit for freeing up a scholarship on the roster. Know thyself.
Attrition
Even though a kid may be a 4 or 5 star recruit, that doesn’t necessarily mean the kid will beome what we all hope he will become. A lot has to come with the 4 or 5 star package. Academics is HUGE. If a 4 or 5 star kid can’t cut it in the classroom then we’re wasting our time. If a kid loses focus as to why he is here and beomes homesick then we are wasting our time. If a kid can’t work thru the mental grind of the program that leads to superior success then we are wasting our time.
To be champion of anything you have to pay the price. You have to log in extensive hours in the weight room, you have to work diligently during summer workouts, you have to take all the crap the coaches dish out and figure out how to spin it into a positive. Not only all that but you have to learn to jell with your teammates and units, you have to fine tune your game, study and attend class, learn to set priorities, set aside personal time away from the demands of major college football and the continous academic load. If you can juggle all that you’ll make it here under Sark and Holt. If you can’t then you’ll get the boot.
Best wishes to Carroll, the grind of major college football and the academic load is a lot to deal with. However this is good for the Dawgs. A successful program is built on the foundations of paying the price. Using an old cliche’ like Lear, but paying the price is all the hard work leading up to gameday. Carroll couldn’t pay that price or he didn’t want to anymore. It’s all good…
All I saw was purple
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