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Is Coach Sark the bomb or what?!!!!!!

Check this out guys and gals, this is from CoachSark.com. It's basically an apology for not receiving the the comments from my submission form. How often in this world that we live in does that happen! I'm telling you, the planets are coming into alignment and the Huskies are on the RISE!! The cougs are wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth and I for one am LOVING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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So agreed

And let’s give romar the deal he needs to be a lifelong dawg too, Woooooffffff.

by justicebeau on Mar 23, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Romar’s current contract is good through 2016 based off the extension he signed in 2006, and he’s among the highest-paid coaches in the conference. I don’t think we need to worry too much about Romar’s contract right now.

by kirkd on Mar 24, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Romar's not going anywhere

He’s coaching at his alma matter, with an excellent recruiting base and a long lucrative contract. Add in that he’s got his players in the program set up for long term success and you’ve got a lifer.

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by thecassino on Mar 24, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is loading up

the program with samoans !

You pulled the trigger Kevin. Now you & Mr. Allen must do everything possible to help him succeed. A mentor like Ewing or Olajuwon would be a good start. A franchise PG ? Mike Conley? Lets get it done !
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by Air Norv on Mar 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Good!

You can’t have enough big tough guys.

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by dawgfan22 on Mar 30, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

They’ve been a cornerstone of the UW program!

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Mar 30, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

…it’s nice to see the pipeline to the South Pacific region reestablished. GO DAWGS!!

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by dawgfan22 on Mar 30, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who needs him?

We’ve got a far better QB, LOCKER!!!

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by Lear Pilot on Apr 3, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that...

Masoli no doubt has the arm and D-reading advantage.

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by qrsouther on Apr 3, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are barking up the wrong tree

Locker will be a Pro Bowl QB in the NFL. Masoli will be a high school football coach.

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"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 5, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because of their height?

And who is more successful right now? Moreover, who is just more bad ass?

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

How quickly you forget

One injury, 8 missed games, and everyone forgets how much of a stud Locker is. Don’t worry, by the end of the season, you will remember.

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by Lear Pilot on Apr 6, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, I don't forget.

I really liked Jake Locker in 2007 and early 2008 until I realized the significance of accurate passing.

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must be disappointed than...

…Masoli can’t pass either!

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locker is...

Who would you take if you had a choice between those two to put together a team? Locker is bigger, stronger and faster and unfortunately he was injured so we really didn’t get to see his development.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locker is taller.

If you mean stronger like… ability to truck? Masoli is as good or better. And as for speed, they’re both listed at 4.6, which is fairly fast for Quarterbacks. Jake seems to be more elusive, if I can give him one ball handling advantage. But passing and decision making is hands down where Masoli wins out.

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Jake's faster...

…I heard 4.4 quoted at one point but I think 4.5 is more realistic. He’s 6’3" and weighs 225 to 230. Trust me he would smoke Masoli in a foot race.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong...

…I’m not saying Masoli is slow. He is fast for a running quarterback. He’s faster than Marques Tuiasosopo was though not as successful as Marques. It just shows you how flat out speed can sometimes be overrated. That’s why they distinguish “football fast” from track fast. I saw Marques outrun everyone on the field for a TD and there were some fast corners out there! Football speed baby!

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Rivals I believe has listed Masoli at 4.5

I had read 4.6 previously. My bad. But you’re right about football fast. I really can’t say who I think is faster. Jake seems to accelerate quicker, but I don’t know who has the higher top speed. You’d be surprised at how fast Masoli is, though.

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd bet money Locker...

…would absolutely smoke Masoli in a foot race. Do I have any facts to back up that claim? No I don’t but I’ve seen both of them run and I think Jake is way faster.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though...

Ask me anytime before the Stanford game of this year, and I’d rather have Locker. One can only wonder how Jake Locker would do coached by Chip Kelly…

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's got better coaches than that now...

…why go backwards?

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I would...

seriously.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhh...

Okay then…

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by qrsouther on Apr 7, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree...

…we’ll just have to leave it at that.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you say Heisman trophy

Hmmm, Sark has coached Carson Palmer and Matt Leinhart. I was about to ask who has Kelly coached, but I’m afraid you’ll say something stupid like Dixon who obviously isn’t in the same league as Palmer and Leinhart.

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by Lear Pilot on Apr 8, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chip Kelly has coached up Dennis Dixon and Jeremiah Masoli.

Are you seriously asking credentials on Chip Kelly’s ability to coach QBs?

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you?...

….seriously questioning Sark’s QB mentoring talents?!

Come on qrs you showed how far off base you were with your sophomoric “50 times better” quote. If you want to reasonably debate this then let’s do it. Just get real.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I questioned his mentoring of a dual-threat QB...

It’s like nothing I say has been taken in remotely the right way.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

What has Kelly proven as a QB coach?

If Locker’s goal was to become the best spread option QB he could be, yeah – Chip Kelly would be a great coach to learn from. But if his goal is to be the best pro prospect QB he can be (and why wouldn’t that be his goal?), then Sarkisian & Nussmeier are better options.

Sark is given a lot of credit for turning Carson Palmer from highly talented but mediocre or worse results into a Heisman Trophy winner. Some of that growth was just simply Palmer getting older and maturing, but a lot of credit was given at the time to Sarkisian as his QB coach.

Matt Leinart wasn’t considered a can’t miss stud, but he too was a Heisman winner and a high draft pick. Mark Sanchez was highly rated, but Sark still deserves credit for the fact that Sanchez lived up to his hype.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uhh...

I think at this stage, and with his skillset, Jake Locker should focus way more on having success in college. He just doesn’t have a pro arm (yet.) You make it sound like being a good spread-option QB automatically derails a guy from being a pro prospect. Dennis Dixon has a reconstructed knee for christsakes and he got drafted. To say that Jake Locker is “focusing more on being a pro prospect than a successful college QB” is just making silly excuses.

Ugh. You’re completely missing my point about Sarkisian’s past development of QBs. I’m not discounting what he did with Palmer or Leinart or Sanchez. The point I’m trying to stress is that it’s a completely different Quarterback he’s coaching now. It’s like saying “I can jump 8 feet in the air!” “Nice. But can you swim 35 mph?” “…well I can jump 8 feet in the air!”

Chip Kelly is the Michael Phelps of this analogy, while Sarkisian may be something closer to the Nate Robinson. Each aficianados in their own right, but one just makes more sense than the other. Now, if you’re saying that Jake Locker, who could make an excellent swimmer right now, is more focused on jumping high? This just seems silly to me.

Please, enlighten me (courteously) if I am missing your point, because I’m feeling some non-sequitors in this thread.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well spoken...

…for a 14 year old or did you get your birthday?

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

15.

And thank you sir.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locker’s experience to date is what makes him seem more like a run/pass, spread-option kind of QB. His skills however do not preclude him from being a successful NFL QB. He’s got plenty of arm – arm strength is about the last of Jake’s problems. Accuracy, sure, but that is something that can be improved through coaching.

Jake was in a run-heavy offense in H.S., so he didn’t come into college with a huge baseline of passing experience. And while he’s improved some in that regard, he was in an offense that still was geared in large part on his running ability. Now that he has true pro-style QB mentors in Nussmeier and Sarkisian, he has his first real opportunity to learn and grow as a passer.

If the only goal was to win as many games as possible, then yes – Jake would probably win more games with Chip Kelly as his coach right now. But Sarkisian is also setting up this program for long-term success, and part of his plan is to get the UW back to being a program that churns out NFL players like we did under Don James & Jim Lambright (and thus using that as something to sell recruits). And that means a more pro-style offense. Jake only has 2 years to learn and grow under Sarkisian, and he’s coming from a real deficit in pro-style QB coaching, so he’s got a lot of ground to make up.

But I have no doubt that he will have a far greater chance to succeed in the NFL as a QB under the guidance of Sarkisian & Nussmeier than he would under Kelly.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

The core difference between us, I guess, is that I worry much more about a guy having success at my school, then doing a good job in the NFL as an afterthought. I don’t think it’s selfish or anything, just that I want my guy to succeed first, then pursue the pros; not dawdle for 3-4 years in prep for the big leagues.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

...
What has Kelly proven as a QB coach?

Come on dude.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m serious. The Oregon offense is a great college offense, and they’ve had in Dixon and Masoli guys that run it very well. But how much of that is the system itself? I think Kelly is an outstanding offensive coordinator. As a QB coach? I’m not as convinced. When I see a Kelly-tutored QB do well in the NFL, I’ll give him more credit.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you say...

That you like Chip Kelly’s playcalling, but not the signal callers he produces? This is also something I don’t understand.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t understand the concept of “system QB’s”?

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course I do.

Just because I may not articulate like J.A. Adande doesn’t mean you have to talk down to me so as to override my points.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My intention was not to talk down to you – you said you didn’t understand my point, so I clarified it for you. I think Chip Kelly runs a great college offense. I’m less convinced that he’s a great QB tutor. My opinion is that his system makes his QB’s look good.

That opinion could change over time if I see his QB’s go on to have success in the NFL.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And my counterpoint is that...

…His merit as a QB coach should not be judged by how his students go on and merge with someone else’s system. You are right in that it remains to be seen how his pupils will fare at the next level, but I feel that if Dennis Dixon never becomes a Pro-Bowler, it shouldn’t be Chip Kelly’s fault for “not preparing him enough”, or what say.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you this – Kelly’s QB’s have executed his system very, very well. By that judgment, Kelly has been a very good QB coach.

For QB’s though, I’ve always been biased towards how well a QB is prepared for the next level. I think there’s little doubt that Sarkisian is a better mentor for QB’s moving on to the NFL than Kelly is. As to which one is better at prepping their QB’s for the systems they run in college? I dunno, that’s a much closer race.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or...

You mean that Chip Kelly is not a great or proven QB coach in your opinion, because he doesn’t produce good pro prospects? Well, seeing as he’s worked primarily with 2 QBs in two years— one being 6’4", who went to the NFL and is now 2nd string on the Superbowl Champ team, and the other being 5’10" and a first-year sophomore JC transfer— I’m not sure what more sample size or success you need.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve proven my point already. I’m not saying he’s not a very good QB mentor – I’m saying there’s a very small sample size to judge him by. Sark can list of Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart and now Mark Sanchez as success stories. Even John David Booty is on an NFL roster. Leinart hasn’t been great in the NFL, but he’s done a lot more than Dixon – heck, Booty has done about as much as Dixon. Then there’s Pro Bowler Palmer.

Dixon is 2nd string for the Steelers? That’s probably news to Byron Leftwich…

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you assume that no other QB’s will come along and challenge Dixon for 2nd string?

Look, if you want to rest your laurels on a guy being a 2nd string QB, go for it. Dixon hasn’t proven much yet in the NFL. When he does, I may start to change my opinion of Kelly as a QB coach.

by kirkd on Apr 8, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, because he hasn't played yet...

This is all we have so far, though I don’t blame you if it’s not enough.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah no way is Dixon second string...

…over Leftwich. Leftwich should be starting in the NFL.

by doubledeucedawg on Apr 9, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leftwich is too good...

…to sit on the Steelers bench next year. He’ll be starting somewhere.

by doubledeucedawg on Apr 9, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sark's QB coaching speaks for itself...

…Carson Palmer and Leinart and I’m not an SC fan so I can’t quote them all but pretty much all of them are in the league.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 6, 2009 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Neither of those are comparable to Locker though.

My point is, I think Chip Kelly or Rich Rodriguez would make an absolute stud out of Jake Locker, while the jury is still out on Sarkisian. Sarkisian coached up pro-style QBs. Jake Locker will be new territory for Sark.

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by qrsouther on Apr 6, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No...

…the bottom line is he coaches QBs and he’s done a better job of it than the coaches you mentioned based on results, wins and getting guys successfully into the NFL.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

To tell you the truth...

Getting guys to the NFL doesn’t matter much. Anyone could’ve coached Leinart and Sanchez into the NFL. Sark happened to have those guys tailor made for his offense. Those guys are much slower but much better passers than Jake Locker, which is who Sark has to work with now. He really hasn’t had an athletic QB like this before. Like I said, we can’t know yet what or how he will do with Locker, though I can say that Chip Kelly would do something 50 times more special with him.

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by qrsouther on Apr 7, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

50 times?

Hmmm…?

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trust me dude.

I know it’s hard for you to own up to, maybe, but Chip Kelly works wonders with 2 and 3 star recruits in Roper and Masoli. If Jake is as much better than Masoli as you talk him up to being, one can only imagine…

I’m sure on the flipside that some good things could have come of a relationship between Sark and, say, Roper.

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by qrsouther on Apr 7, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cuz You Oregon people really know your QB's.

Coming form a fan of the school that brought us the great and mighty Joey Harrington, you have no room to bash Locker. And don’t get started on the fact that you have beat UDub in the past five meetings. What you beat was not Washington football. That was Ty Ball, and now that he is gone things will go back to the way they have always been: Us kicking yor a**!!! I mean, our worst coach other than Ty (Rick Neuheisel) still went 2-1 against Oregon and your best coach (Belotti). Nuff Said.

by subliminalnirvanaist on Apr 7, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take it easy man...

Not once did I bash on Locker either…

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by qrsouther on Apr 7, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry but..

I’m just kinda pissed about what has happend to this program and while you didn’t bash Locker you still tried to make it sound like he is just a bunch of talk. That’s what I meant when I used the term “bashing”.

by subliminalnirvanaist on Apr 8, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jake Locker's not a bunch of talk.

I like Jake Locker a lot. I think he’s easily as naturally talented and more athletic than Jeremiah Masoli. I think Jake Locker is an excellent runner and a mediocre passer, but that’s all. In short, I think Jake Locker isn’t just a bunch of talk, but rather, Jeremiah Masoli isn’t given enough credit.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jake Locker

He certainly is a undeveloped talent in the passing game but don’t think for a minute he doesn’t have an NFL arm. He has a major league gun on him and I seriously doubt that Maoli does, though I have no idea because I don’t know what he can and can’t do. Jake Locker has the raw tools and talents that few have but he still needs to be developed. Jake Locker didn’t need to throw much in HS because he could just run the veer option and blast big runs through opposing defenses. Now it’s a different ballgame but I think Sark and Nuss couldn’t have come at a better time to develop his passing game and decision making.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Masoli has an insane arm.

You’d be shocked at how the ball shoots off his hand. For such a little guy, he’s really got a grenadier. His biggest problems, evidenced chiefly early in the year, were timing issues… throwing behind receivers, not having the pace set yet. The resolving of this may have after all made his late-season success. I think Jake has good arm strength, but his accuracy is the biggest lacking, that I’ve seen. I think you are right, though, that Sarkisian among all people could do great things for his arm. This is one thing that I think Sarkisian does well: getting arms to develop. My argument still stands, though, that Sarkisian may not do the other things that must or should be done to get the most of out Jake.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying...

…we’ll just have to see how it plays out. If Locker wants to play in the NFL, ( and what kid doesn’t) this is what he has to learn. To me it’ll be a challenge for Sark to incorporate Locker’s running ability. You can’t leave a weapon like that on the sideline.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:52 PM PDT reply actions  

?
To me it’ll be a challenge for Sark to incorporate Locker’s running ability. You can’t leave a weapon like that on the sideline.

I don’t quite follow… what do you mean?

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by qrsouther on Apr 7, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to...

…find a way to use his running ability. Incorporate, dare I use the phrase, some “option” type plays, where he can run the football.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the sets that he runs...

and the types of players he has, it would be a mistake to run spread and option (or spread/option) sets…except he has the best Option QB this side of the Mississippi. You could see it in 2007 that we needed to be a run first team, our O line was built for toughness and not the speed option game.

I think he means that it would not work with our personel rather than logistically.

by B Money on Apr 10, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locker, Masoli and wayward duck fans

Thanks to dawgfan22 for picking up the fight in my absence.

Locker is faster, there is NO question about it, he has faster acceleration, and bet top speed. Remember he ran for 987 yards his freshmen year, a PAC10 record for QB’s. When Masoli breaks that we can talk.

Chip Kelly – I’ll say the exact samething I tell Husky fans, don’t annoint him as “King of the World” when he is nothing more than a BRAND NEW HEAD COACH. He’s a good offensive coordinator, but he hasn’ t won a single PAC10 game as head coach.

qrsouther – Please tell me you don’t honestly believe, “Getting guys to the NFL doesn’t matter much. Anyone could’ve coached Leinart and Sanchez into the NFL.” I really hope you and every Oregon Duck fan believes that. Because, if you do, Oregon football is headed back to the cellar of the PAC10 where it belongs!

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by Lear Pilot on Apr 8, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Well then.
Locker is faster, there is NO question about it, he has faster acceleration, and bet top speed. Remember he ran for 987 yards his freshmen year, a PAC10 record for QB’s. When Masoli breaks that we can talk.

Maybe he is faster and quicker, who knows. Also of note, Jake Locker played his entire freshman year right? Masoli ran for 718 yards, a 59 ypg average, in what was essentially 9 games played. He saw only the second half of the game against you guys in the opener, played one drive before being knocked out of the Boise State game, played ultrasparingly against Utah State, and did not play at Purdue. His first start and completed game was against WSU, 5 games into the season. Masoli would’ve assuredly challenged for that yardage rushing record, though it’s impossible to know if he would’ve broken it. Had he played a full 12 game year, with the yardage he was averaging, he would’ve made pace to rush for 1000 yards. It’s dumb to get into these sort of hypotheticals though, so you don’t have to touch this one.

Chip Kelly – I’ll say the exact samething I tell Husky fans, don’t annoint him as "King of the World" when he is nothing more than a BRAND NEW HEAD COACH. He’s a good offensive coordinator, but he hasn’ t won a single PAC10 game as head coach.

I didn’t anoint Chip Kelly “King of the World” as a head coach. When did I? He’s an excellent offensive coordinator and easily the top spread QB coach in the nation, at least in D-1. He also hasn’t won a single Pac-10 game as a head coach because, well, he hasn’t coached one yet… Sarkisian hasn’t either. You certainly seem high on him, don’t you?

Please tell me you don’t honestly believe, "Getting guys to the NFL doesn’t matter much. Anyone could’ve coached Leinart and Sanchez into the NFL."

Let me clarify this one. Getting guys to NFL does not impress me nearly as much as getting great things out of guys in college. I also think it is much less argument fodder than it’s given credit for. You took 3 4-star pro-style QBs through college, and they went pro. Nice. What I can give Sarkisian for is that he made Heisman winners out of the first two. There is where Sark has done his proving, to me. To be fair, it’s just my opinion. But I have way more respect for a guy that does more with less in college, than one who just holds a player’s hand all the way up to the pros. If you want to talk pro success, the Joey Harrington argument someone up their chucked out has… well… no relevance to this conversation whatsoever. He was coached by Jeff Tedford. Not nearly Chip Kelly. And, Joey and Matt Leinart are looking awfully reminiscent these days…

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was his average per carry?

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Masoli's?

5.7 ypc, which was exactly the same as Locker’s. Locker had 3 more rushing TDs, while Masoli had a 132% passer rating, compared to Locker’s 105%, for what that’s worth.

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by qrsouther on Apr 8, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, time for a lesson . . .

Locker’s Record: I seem to remember Locker almost breaking his NECK, missing a game and a half, and run much less the last game. So you are right, it’s useless to play all the hypotheticals, Locker holds the record, end of story.

Kelly: First you said, "I didn’t anoint Chip Kelly “King of the World”", then you said “easily the top spread QB coach in the nation”. Which is it, and you better choose option A! I’ve got one name for you, URBAN MEYER. How many national championships does Kelly have? How many Heisman trophies does his players have? How many conference championships does he have? The answer to every question, ZERO!!!!! I’ve got really bad news for you, I know this is going to hit below the belt, Tyrone Willingham has more wins as a head coach in Div 1A running the spread than Chip Kelly does! So right now Ty Losingham has a better track record than Kelly!!! As a Div 1A head coach Chip Kelly has proven absolutely NOTHING so far.

Now that Washington has a real coaching staff, it should be a LOT of fun watching Oregon implode and return to the cellar of the PAC10.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 9, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alright then.

My mistake— Jake Locker missed one game. Whooooopsie there.

Kelly — Urban Meyer is a head coach. Dan Mullen coached QBs at Florida, and was pretty good at it, but with that talent at every single position, he sure should have produced something close to what he did. You also shouldn’t forget that, by your own metric for QB coaching success, Urban Meyer spit out Alex Smith. That’s sure a successful NFL career right there. Is Urban Meyer any less of a coach for it? Urban Meyer never even QB coached Tim Tebow. It remains to be seen how Tim Tebow does in the pro’s, but by the one QB Meyer has watched over in college’s failure, maybe Urban Meyer isn’t a great QB coach, and he doesn’t prepare guys for the pros at all!

Tyrone Willingham has more wins as a head coach in Div 1A running the spread than Chip Kelly does! So right now Ty Losingham has a better track record than Kelly!!! As a Div 1A head coach Chip Kelly has proven absolutely NOTHING so far.

And this… well, I just don’t know what to say to this one. I don’t know exactly what you’re pushing towards but it really doesn’t make sense. I told you up above: Sarkisian and Kelly are in the EXACT SAME PLACES in their careers. And I thought I had made myself very clear before that I’m talking about Chip Kelly being proven as an OC and a QB coach. Of course he hasn’t proven himself as an HC yet, he hasn’t coached a game yet for pete’s sake. Has Sarkisian?

Now that Washington has a real coaching staff, it should be a LOT of fun watching Oregon implode and return to the cellar of the PAC10.

So… now that Washington has a coaching staff with a pulse, that is directly correlated to Oregon losing and “returning to the cellar”? Yeah, I can totally see the logic in that one.

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by qrsouther on Apr 9, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

So… now that Washington has a coaching staff with a pulse, that is directly correlated to Oregon losing and "returning to the cellar"? Yeah, I can totally see the logic in that one.

I’m not going to predict the basement for Oregon, but I do believe Washington rising is likely to result in Oregon falling. Here’s why:

The UW enjoys a recruiting advantage over Oregon due to their locations. It’s not so much that Seattle is more appealing to more recruits than Eugene, though that’s part of it. It’s mostly because the state of Washington produces more Division 1 talent than the state of Oregon, and when things are going well, the UW usually nabs most, if not all of the best Washington recruits. That gives the UW a better recruiting base to build off of. And with a solid base like that, it makes it easier for the Huskies to succeed on the field, and that success makes it easier for the UW to recruit effectively in areas where Oregon has relied heavily in the last decade – Oregon & California.

Sarkisian has yet to coach a game at the UW, so it’s obviously waaaaay early to know how things will play out. But the fact that he already has commitments in April from 6 of the best in-state recruits is a great sign, especially when you consider that the Huskies are coming off the worst possible season – 0-12. We don’t know yet how good of a head coach Sarkisian is in terms of wins & losses, but the evidence so far suggests he may be a very strong recruiter. If Sarkisian is also a good head coach and the Huskies start winning again, they will start winning a lot of recruiting battles with Oregon and others for kids in California, and they may even be able to start poaching good players out of Oregon again like they did in the Don James years. And that will make it harder for Oregon to succeed if they aren’t landing as many of the good players they currently get from California.

by kirkd on Apr 9, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give me a break

Don’t even try and compare Kelly to Urban Meyer. You only show your ignorance trying to compare the two.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 9, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Urban Meyer...

might have a word or two about this.

He’s an excellent offensive coordinator and easily the top spread QB coach in the nation, at least in D-1.

by B Money on Apr 10, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds familiar doesn't it

its no different than one of our bloggers calling Sark the best offensive mind in college football. Some fans just need a big dose of reality.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 10, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know...

but coming off an 0-12 season we need something to be optimistic about. UO fans can rest on a run of good seasons…UW is in the pit and everyone is grasping for whatever they can.

That said, I really do think we have one of the most complete coaching staffs in the country.

by B Money on Apr 11, 2009 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes...

and I agree. Kelly is good, but he’s not the best. Lear has been preaching rationality with Sark all along. He’s been one of the few (on this blog) who’ve said “prove it to me”.

We had our dose last year, 0-12 is a tough pill to swallow. Like I said we’re grasping for any ray of hope we can.

So calm down. Making grandiose claims about your 1st year coach isn’t proving anything to us, except that the Eugene water district needs to quit adding LSD to the city supply.

by B Money on Apr 11, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap.

I have no idea how much I have to stress that Chip Kelly is proven as a QB coach and coordinator. Come on, I’ve said it numerous times.

Urban Meyer is a proven head coach. And a great spread mind. But does he coach QBs or call the plays at Florida? No he did not, which is the exact point I’m making.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 11, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing history has proven over, and over, and over, and over, and over . . . .

is that a great position coach, and a great coordinator, means absolutely nothing when it comes to being a head coach. Until he shows he can be a successful head coach at the Division 1 level, there is nothing to talk about.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go Lear!...

…you are the man! It’s pretty hard to convince “fans” that their star athlete can actually be beaten at anything by anybody.

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by dawgfan22 on Apr 8, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

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