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Pullman 911

I couldn't resist passing this one on because you have to wonder exactly how drunk you have to be to pass out in your car at the police station. I know it is still cold over there but there had to be a better place to sleep it off.

Pullman police arrested Washington State University's 2008 starting quarterback for minor in possession of alcohol Saturday morning.

Sophomore Marshall Lobbestael, 19, was arrested after officers say they found him passed out in a pickup truck at the police station.

Pullman officers were in contact with Lobbestael twice on Saturday. The first run-in happened on College Hill when officers saw him carrying an unconscious woman. They took her into custody for MIP.


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About an hour after that officers found Lobbestael in the pickup truck at the station. They were able to wake him and arrest him for MIP.

Lobbestael has been suspended from the team indefinitely according to the WSU athletic department.

This just in from the Pullman's Daily Evergreen.

"He was slumped over with a grocery bag of vomit between his feet," Officer Tennant said. A little past midnight on Saturday, the Pullman Police spotted Lobbestael carrying an unconscious woman on College Hill, who was arrested for an MIP.

I loved this quote from a former WSU player that came out last spring when they were trying to clean up the mess over there. It really sums up campus life in Pullman.

"WSU is a hard school to go to, man," Williams says. "You ain't got nothin' to do but get drunk and smoke weed, and not go to class because you're too tired from doing what you're doing."

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This comment by huskyfaithful over at Dawgman captures the issue perfectly:

“The Drinking Team still has a Football Problem!”

by kirkd on Feb 23, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

If this happens to someone like Ronnie Fouch you get two weeks of press coverage. If it happens over at WSU you will get a blip in the paper and that is that.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 23, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

I guess there are advantages to being in the middle of nowhere…

Tony Bennett for Heisman!

by johnnycougar on Feb 23, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Which raises another question

as pointed out by someone on Dawgman. Why isn’t there a DUI charge as well? Normally when you the only one in a vehicle and you’re drunk/stoned/whatever you will be charged for DUI.

All in all…it’s funny and you’re right John…if this had been a Husky there would be some hysteria going on in the Seattle media with big headlines/sound bites. If it’s a coog….not so much

by T9ODawg on Feb 23, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know all the facts

But I would guess that only getting an MIP probably means he wasn’t the driver. It looks like John is quoting the KXLY story (http://www.kxly.com/Global/story.asp?S=9890166), which doesn’t give insight as to whether he was driving or riding.

A little funny to me that if he was the passenger, the driver just ditched him in the police parking lot… maybe it was a UW conspiracy! Maybe a Husky infiltrated a Cougar party and got Ocho Rojo drunk off his ass and dragged him to the cops…

But seriously, this guy is rehabbing a blown out knee by getting drunk and CARRYING A WOMAN!!!! Ugh (shakes head)

Tony Bennett for Heisman!

by johnnycougar on Feb 23, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think the media's coverage is maliciously biased against UW.

Writing bad things about UW football sells alot of papers. Writing bad things about WSU football doesn’t because nobody cares. The Times and P.I. are just supplying the demand for dirt.

by volk on Feb 23, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Funny how there’s yet to be any mention of this incident over at Coug Center…

by kirkd on Feb 23, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Still no mention of this over at Coug Center, just basketball talk. Guess this is so routine for them as to not even rate a mention…

by kirkd on Feb 23, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't hold it against them

It isn’t like we tend to dwell on the negative over here about out team.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 23, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

True

If it is Husky news good or bad we comment on it.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 23, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know for sure

I would guess (& hope) that Grady is going to do a write-up on it, ruthlessly addressing the issue. Usually he waits a bit on big news to give some thought-through analysis. It was in a FanShot more or less as the story broke but I was surprised it didn’t make the front page. The only “stories” today are from Nuss, who usually does more basketball stuff.

Tony Bennett for Heisman!

by johnnycougar on Feb 23, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure he will

They do a very good job over there.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 6:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Volk

There is a lot of truth in that.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 23, 2009 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Is this the culture?

Coach Wolff indicated during his press conference when he was offered the job that he wanted to bring a football-winning culture to WSU. My question- is this part of that culturre?

And the guy you quoted John- was he drunk when he said that? Either he was drunk or that is what is to be expected from a WSU graduate.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Feb 23, 2009 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Come on Crazi...

…do you really think ANY coach is going to change it?

by doubledeucedawg on Feb 23, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

In my defense...

doubledeuce it was a loaded question. The sarcasm you just read from my post appears to be what is going to be the norm around Pullman while Wolff is in charge. Wolff is and was not qualified to take over the program at WSU. His track record at EWU reflects that and on top of that, his administration has been caught with two NCAA violations and a drunk quarterback passed out in front of the local police station. One last sarcastic question: Was the kid wanting out of his athletic scholarship? I mean if you really want out, being drunk and passed out in front of the police station is a darn good way to ensure you accomplish your goal.

Now for all those Cougs who get bent out of shape for us making fun of their WSU education. How dumb do you got to be?

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Feb 23, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I just like to...

…give you grief. You know we wouldn’t do it if we didn’t like you.

Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions

by dawgfan22 on Feb 24, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

All kidding aside WSU is a tremendous school.

For example if you plan to be a vet, a broadcast journalist, or an enviromental engineer it would be tough to pick a better place than WSU to achieve those goals.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Very good architecture school as well, generally speaking higher regarded than the UW’s.

by kirkd on Feb 24, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Chauncey Williams

I can’t remember if he was quoted in the Times or the PI but he wasn’t drunk. Perhaps not the best example of the WSU culture as Grady pointed out.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

WSU

Is there any truth to the rumor that they found a sheep in the back of the truck passed out. This is just too funny.

by Lotar on Feb 23, 2009 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

Come on!...

…don’t make fun of the guy’s date just because she’s/he’s different.

by doubledeucedawg on Feb 23, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

only in pullman

is your choice for quarterback between a drunk or a guy who took a ball right off the facemask. tough decision here wulff

by topdawg09 on Feb 23, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

It's not like

he’s the first WSU QB that had too much to drink, he’s just keeping with tradition…I assume he was drinking

by T9ODawg on Feb 23, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

according to some of the local bar tenders...

 … Leaf was well known for getting thrown out of bars for drunk and disorderly conduct. One such barkeep told me a story of how, after asking him to leave peacefully, Ryan was belligerent and threatened to “buy this place” once he made his millions in the NFL to which said barkeep replied, “Any fair offer and its yours”. I’m guessing that transaction never closed.

"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.

by Gekko Mojo on Feb 24, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Leaf

Leaf may have been one of the biggest jerks of all time and he ended up getting his just rewards.

Just when you thought he was turning it around he gets fired from his lowly asst coach for pressuring kids for their Percodans.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

True stories

He came back to town with some of his offensive linemen a couple years after the Rose Bowl to party with the students and ended up having to use them as bodyguards after starting fights at the Coug. I truly believe that he could have been a success in the NFL if he would have been humble and willing to learn, but we all know how that turned out.

Tony Bennett for Heisman!

by johnnycougar on Feb 24, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Biggest Bust

I think he was just that, the biggest bust in NFL History! Well OK the guy from Michigan State was a pretty big bust too! I can’t remember his name at this point though. Remember when people ACTUALLY believed that Leaf had more potential than Peyton Manning!

Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions

by dawgfan22 on Feb 25, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Who knows if the Cougs would’ve been able to score with a few more ticks on the clock (much like our game against USC a few years back) but it would’ve been fun to see. No question the refs messed up…

by kirkd on Feb 25, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Just imagine how drunk the sheep had to be. LOL

by Lotar on Feb 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

Until the Dawgs start to beat them

I do not say much about our cousins in Pullman. If they are indeed the the laughing stock of the league, where do we fit? Still, misery loves company, so it feels pretty good to have this opportunity come along.

by OlyDawgFan on Feb 23, 2009 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

You know what...

…you laugh at what you can, when you can.

Washington Husky Football-1991 National Champions

by dawgfan22 on Feb 24, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I really do love this thread

By the way, how’s Jerramy Stevens doing?

by Grady Clapp on Feb 23, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

Say “hi” to Andy Roof for me. You really want to go back and forth on questionable characters from each program?

by kirkd on Feb 24, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Stevens

He is about as bad as it gets.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 6:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Coug Center

Coug Center commented on it this morning.

Hey, Husky fans, you know why this isn’t drawing more headlines? Because it’s pretty much a non-story. Thanks for stopping by.

Grady is right…the same type of stuff goes on at every college campus every weekend.

What they don’t seem to find is the obvious humor related to the subject matter. This isn’t your usual boring DUI or physical assault case.

This even tops UW TE Chris Izbicki’s unfortunate run in last summer at the White River Amphitheatre on the stupidity meter.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 7:09 AM PST reply actions  

Hits a little close to home

as the incident fulfills all the WSU stereotypes.

The incident actually makes me think Lobbestael is likely a pretty good guy.

by volk on Feb 24, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He does seem like a good guy

As far as Lobbestael goes I would agree that he was acting gallantly by carrying his girlfriend to safety. I think getting a ride to pick her up at the police station was another example of trying to do the honorable thing.

Should he be kicked off the team?

No!

If you kicked every underaged drinker out of WSU you would have to shutter the place. You can also say that about almost any college in America.

Should he get a little alcohol counseling?

Perhaps.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Probably should get some counseling. I know WSU has something like a 3 strike policy for underage drinking, and the first strike involves a mandatory course of some sort. I don’t know if Wulff will have punishments above the combined police & school measures.

Tony Bennett for Heisman!

by johnnycougar on Feb 24, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The police picked her up

the plice noticed him carrying her after she passed out so Pullman’s finest arrested her. He had a friend drive him to the police station to picked her up or bail her out. He passed out with a garbage bag full of vomit in the passenger seat. The cops noticed and arrested him too.

This is Pullman and the cops have plenty of time on their hands. If it happens in seattle chances are nothing would have happened.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I am starting to see the humor of the situation

Got a little defensive last night. But I have to defend my Cougs, even if it this was undeniably stupid.

by Grady Clapp on Feb 24, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Grady I swear... .

If it was a Husky I would have ran the story the same way.

It’s amusing and it is obvious the kid had the best of intentions but perhaps his judgement was a little foggy. We all hope they reinstate him and let him get on with his life.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

I still think the funniest college incident

was at Oregon St when a football player was arrested a few years ago for stealing a sheep in a pickup truck from the research labs where I believe they were studying homosexuality in sheep. Remember that one.

by prrbrr on Feb 24, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

ROFL Prrbrr

I remember that and hit the floor laughing when i read about it. Those crazy college kids.

I also remember the UW fraternity that was using sheep during their initiation/hazing rituals a couple of years ago. They have sheep on both sides of the mountains.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 24, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. That sheep incident at the UW happened while I was going to school there and was also in the greek system. I’d have laughed at it more myself, but it was my grandfather’s fraternity, so instead it made me sad that they’d tarnished the name of that fraternity.

by kirkd on Feb 24, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Intersting comments from the Deadspin site give this a life of its own

Some interesting posts from the Deadspin Site

According to Vegas oddsmakers, Bag of Vomit would be a 14-point favorite over Wazzu on a neutral field.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 25, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

what is a couger?

I think it is a middle aged woman who sexually preys on young men.

by John Berkowitz on Feb 26, 2009 7:21 AM PST reply actions  

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