Tiger Woods and Steve Kelley - Off Topic
Whenever Steve Kelley of the Seattle Times writes about anything other than the NBA which doesn't exist anymore in Seattle you have to shake your head. A couple of recent columns come to mind for me.
Seahawks' Tim Ruskell couldn't live up to Paul Allen's exacting standards?
Since when has Paul Allen ever had exacting standards? All he has ever had is more money than most people on the planet since he retired early from Microsoft years ago. Kudo's to Paul for his part in the Microsoft legacy but what has he really done that anyone couldn't have done since then with one of the largest fortunes in the history of mankind?
I have nothing against Paul Allen but saying he has exacting standards is like saying Tiger Woods can keep his putter in his pants...which leads us to the next entry.
Tiger Woods doesn't owe anyone an explanation?
I wonder if Fuzzy Zoeller is having a nice chuckle this week. Fuzzy was the good old boy who didn't think before he spoke off the record about chicken dinners at the Masters after Tiger first won there. No excuse for the comment but the thing I always felt funny about is the way Tiger left him twisting in the wind in the hangman's noose when everyone knew he had simply mispoke and made a real bad joke at the wrong time.
So now we owe Tiger Woods the type of personal consideration he never allowed Fuzzy Zoeller?
Fuzzy was dead wrong but did he deserve to be crucified?
How much slack did Fuzzy get as he crawled on his knee's trying to make things right without a single utterance from Tiger which might have made his life at the time a little more bearable?
Being left out there to hang under public scrutiny is never a pleasant place to be but when you lead a public life and you make a personal/public mistake or mistakes in 2009 you are going to pay for it in the public eye.
Tiger deserves the same amount of slack he and the public gave Fuzzy Zoeller.
Bad behavior is simply bad behavior.
What goes around comes around.
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I just want it to pass, not for Tiger's sake, but for my sake...
I’m sick of hearing about it. I thought Kelly’s comments were a bit off because I don’t feel like he deserves his privacy or should ever consider that being a possibility, but I feel like sports fans deserve more than Tiger updates on Sportcenter, I watch it for highlights not for something I’d see on Entertainment weekly or whatever… Did anybody see the new sport added to the bottom line this week? It’s called “Tiger”, seriously, I really don’t want to hear about the Tiger situation anymore…unless it comes out of Jesper Parnevik’s mouth…now that’s entertaining!
by ReturnOfTheDawgs on Dec 4, 2009 2:18 AM PST reply actions
Home Court
Agreed! I’m also wicked tired of hearing about who Tiger might be f’ing, and am now avoiding the sporting news due to that. Also agree with JB- Tiger does not derserve any breaks either. But I think that battle should be left for his wife to fight…….. along with other family and freinds. If they are at all like most of rest of us, Tiger Woods is getting his butt chewed up pretty good these days.
Or Padraig Harrington
steamy affiar news should always be read by an irishman.
"Attending WAZZU is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
- Don James.
The ESPN ticker did the same thing with Favre.
Sportscenter is dead to me.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Fortunately
my wife is not prone to violence and if I’d done something like Tiger she would be long gone.
Monday is 46 years with her.
Congrats...
it’s refreshing to hear stories about couples who make it work after so many years.
March will be 2 years for me, and my wife is the same way. She’ll hurt me where it counts, she knows I’m pretty much a bum without her.
"Attending WAZZU is great preparation for real life. It teaches you not to expect too much."
- Don James.
kelley is a bozo
However, I have to admit that your logic in speaking against Tiger’s right to privacy is more about a vindictive motive than a legitimate counter argument to a perceived “right to privacy”. This issue seems to have you tweaked.
BTW – “putter in pants” comment was priceless
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 4, 2009 8:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Not exactly tweaked…just found Kelley’s take a little tweaked on both subjects.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 4, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Just Do It!
How will Jesper Parnevik’s comment “Just Do It” regarding Tiger’s affairs effect both Tiger’s and Nike’s working relationship? Will Nike be forced to discontinue the famous slogan coined from the iconic Air Jordan saga?
Note to Tiger: don’t ever lie about the truth and don’t ever try to manipulate what the story is. Everytime someone lies, the media just digs deeper to find the real story and in this case the real story will be exposed. That and keep your pants on bud! Talk about a horn dog, he’s has a hot chick for a wife and is in bed with the “hostess”. Life’s been good hasn’t it Tiger? I’m out…
All I saw was purple
One big problem with lieing
You have to remember what you said.
When you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
That is the key
He isn’t the first guy that has ever cheated on his wife….but he is a multi millionaire spokesman with a lot at risk. When you lose credibility with the public it hurts your earning power in a big way. You don’t think champion anymore when you think of Tiger the first thoughts are liar and cheater which is too bad. He obviously is a lot more than that in a positive way.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 4, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Tiger Woods owes me nothing...I dont care about him
I do feel bad for his family but thats their business.
Elston Turner on the other hand owes me an explaination on why he cant make ONE FREE THROW with the game on the line and 4 seconds on the clock!
Not sure I go along with sports celebs as role models anymore
I think parents are role models first and fore most. Sports celebs don’t raise our kids. I think it is only appropriate for parents encourage their kids to watch the games and enjoy the special moments in sports. Sports celebs are human and will do stupid things like the rest of the civilized world- just teach your kids to “enjoy the moment”.
All I saw was purple
The Internet killed the whole "athletes as role models" thing a long time ago.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
When you are a billion dollar athlete...
You are going to be scrutinized. It comes with the money. Kelly should know that. If you don’t want the scrutiny, get out of the game and give up the millions. The media loves a good story and cover up. The wife of a billion dollar athlete bashing his car with a golf club because he was cheating is way too much for the media to pass up in this day and age.
I don’t disagree with Tiger and Steve, but come on, that was a bygone era.
Steve Kelley is a joke. I avoid 95% of his columns, only relenting when he does profiles of athletes I care about, and even then I cringe half the time.
He’s a hack of a writer.
Depends on the headline for me...
Those two caught my attention so I wondered what everyone else thought. The guy knows the NBA but anything else is kind of scary….never figured out how he became a lead columnist when a guy like Bob Condotta has more talent in the top section of his little pinky.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 4, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
It's not just about whether or not he knows his stuff (which is more often not)...
It’s his writing style. It’s terrible pseudo-poetry that wouldn’t fly in your 9th-grade English class. He is Bill Plascke-lite. I can’t stand him.
Give me Art Thiel any day.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

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