Game 8: Georgetown
by thecassino on Dec 11, 2009 7:00 AM PST
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Conference: Big East
Record: 7-0
Pomeroy Rankings: 23rd Overall, 53rd Offense, 29th Defense
Best Win: 72-65 vs. Butler (nuetral court)
Coach: John Thompson III, 191-93, 123-53 at Georgetown (6th season)
Key Players:
Greg Monroe: 6-11 Sophomore Center: 15.3 PPG, 10.7 RPG, 3 APG, 1.4 BPG
Chris Wright: 6-1 Junior Guard: 12.6 PPG, 3 APG, 40% 3FG
Austin Freeman: 6-4 Junior Guard: 12.3 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 47.6% 3FG
Scouting Georgetown:
Georgetown is a team that is very long and athletic. They play at a deliberate pace and run a Princeton style offense, predicated on backdoor cuts, layups and three pointers. Because of their size, the Hoyas are able to affect a lot of shots and hold their opponents to low shooting percentages while at the same time being pretty efficient when they have the ball. They take care of the ball, but at the same time don't force a lot of turnovers. They're a good rebounding team at both ends of the floor, but especially defensive rebounding where they're one of the best teams in the nation. Because of the size advantage they have over the Huskies, I would expect them to play man the majority of the game except for a few possessions to change it up and on inbound plays.
How to Beat Them:
This is easily the best team that the Huskies have played thus far, and may be the best team the Huskies square off against all year. Priority number one for Lorenzo Romar's squad is to take care of the basketball. Georgetown isn't a team that applies a tremendous amount of ball pressure, so the Huskies need to be deliberate when in their half court sets and make every possession count. Defensively the Dawgs need to be aggressive to try and speed up the pace, because in an uptempo game UW will have the best chance, and frankly I'm not entirely sure that they can beat Georgetown over the course of 40 minutes playing a half court game. Husky defenders have also been aggressively overplaying on the wings, leaving them vulnerable to backdoor cuts, which is not something that you can do against Georgetown because that's a cornerstone of their offense. This game will be a big test for Matthew Bryan-Amaning, as he hasn't gone against a big man as talented as Greg Monroe. The foul game between those two will be important, and whoever can stay out of trouble while maybe drawing a foul or two will give his team a huge edge. Isaiah Thomas needs to snap out of his shooting slump and Quincy Pondexter needs to continue his superb play.
Prediction:
Huskies win: 78-74
Viewing: 11:00 AM (Pacific Time) FSN, Honda Center, Anaheim California
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Not Big East Physical Enough
Cassino I admire your passion and your purple glasses, but I don’t think we come out of the Georgetown game with a win.
I think this game, coupled with the TT game, will provide us with more competition in order to prepare ourselves for the Pac 10 slate.
It should be a rather entertaining game, but I think Georgetown is going to be too much to handle right now. We don’t play physical enough down low, at least not Big East physical and I think that will eventually do us in.
Go Huskies! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
by crazidawg on Dec 11, 2009 8:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's purple glasses
We really just have a team that can beat anybody we play. Georgetown is going to be a test and we’re going to need to play really solid hoops, but they’re not any more talented than the Huskies.
by thecassino on Dec 11, 2009 9:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say it's a fair assessment
I can see a close game going either way. UW has the edge outside, and Georgetown has the edge inside. If UW can be patient and limit turnovers, they’ll be fine.
You don’t need to be “Big East physical” down low, you just need to be smart with how you handle the post. If you can deny entry passes, front, and keep the ball in their guards hands as much as possible, it’ll help. The UW guards also have to be careful going into the lane because nothing is going to go up uncontested. At the same time, don’t be afraid to drive and try to draw contact. If you can get their shot blockers into foul trouble, it’ll open up the game that much more.
by cougfan on Dec 11, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you just said reflects...
Big East physical play. Handling the post, deny entry psses, front, and keep the ball in the guards hands is playing a physical brand of basketball.
Now my comment above was filled with much sarcasm. I think UDub has a solid team, college basketball is all about matchups, i.e. personnel and scheme. We have to contend with Georgetown’s physical presence down low, they have to contend with a deep bench.
This is exactly the sort of game I was anticipating early on. We need to see how we react to a team that stacks the paint, shuts down penetration gaps, and forces us to shoot outside on the perimeter. Last season WSU attempted this in the first matchup in Pullman and we had the outside shots falling. To me the key to a Washington victory is to pass the ball in our half court sets, instead of dribbling (no overdribbling stuff). Pass it to the open guy who has an open look to the basket, and we’re going to need to be hungry on the offensive boards. Turnovers will also be key.
All I saw was purple
by crazidawg on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see it...
I really don’t see a high probability for a win here either. Give me a healthy Breshers and I think we can muscle with them enough inside to be picked as favorites, but with only MBA in there at full-strength I think it is just too much of a handicap. On the other hand, if Isaiah can get in there and help win some fouls to get their big guys in trouble it may balance out. Should be a damn good game though.
by brokejumper on Dec 11, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kenpom disagrees
UW has the better offensive efficiency (111.3 46 to 110.2 54) and defensive efficiency is close (90.3 47 to 88.4 27). UW also runs a much faster tempo. The only two games GU has played against teams worth a crap were a one point home win over Temple (33rd ranked in Pomeroy), and a 7 point neutral win over Butler (46th ranked in Pomeroy).
UW’s probability for a win is just as high, if not higher, than Georgetowns.
by cougfan on Dec 11, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell are these stats?
And what do they say? College basketball stats are just like college football stats, the playing field is not even. Georgetown’s schedule is not the same schedule we play so how can you compare one over the other?
Statistics have a way of illustrating a point, but not the least bit accurate. Now if our schedule resembled Georgetown’s then surely you could use that as an argument. I don’t even look at stats until Pac 10 action heats up. Every Pac 10 team plays the same opponents, where the stats actually mean something. But to use some sort of phantom formula when the components being weighed (Georgetown, Washington) are not controlled is a waste of time. You have to have a controlled field to accurately measure. In this case, as in most college sports statistical-groupings, they are nothing more then phony psuedo science at it’s best. To conduct an experiment, to group into categories, to test, to study you have to have a controlled entity present- that is SCIENCE!
All I saw was purple
by crazidawg on Dec 12, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These stats are all adjusted for style of play, pace, opponent strength and tons of other things. They’re a great measure of a teams offensive and defensive efficiency. Common opponents are not necessary to compare teams.
by thecassino on Dec 12, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What...?
That just flew right over my head. Yet how is “opponent strength” factored? Who makes the final decision to rank teams No.1 thru No.300-somthing? Are we just letting software do all the statistical factoring?
Be afraid ladies and gentlemen … SkyNet controlls college sports [intended humor]
All I saw was purple
by crazidawg on Dec 12, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Theyre big, but not a power team
At least not offensively. Monroe isn’t a traditional big man, more of a point center, so while they do have a size advantage it’s not one that their offense allows them to turn into a huge advantage.
Georgetown is going to have to adjust to UW’s speed and quickness as much as UW is going to have to adjust to Georgetowns size. Maybe even more so.
by thecassino on Dec 11, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cassino can close
If you read his Hoya post, you’ll understand why.
by dawgdude on Dec 11, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
From what I have seen
Being a loyal Hoya fan, I know that if Georgetown plays to its potential, it will be very difficult for the Huskies to win. However, this requires Greg Monroe to take over inside like he did against Butler (getting relief from defensive attention by Julian Vaughn) and for the outside shooting game to continue. Austin Freeman, Hollis Thompson, and Jason Clark have stepped up their shooting from the outside this year, but if the Huskies can keep it within 10 points with 6-7 minutes left, they will still be in the game. Last year the Hoyas could not finish out a game, and even though that has improved slightly, unless the Hoyas can jump out to a big lead, the Huskies fire power could likely sink the Hoyas’ ship. I am excited as this is the first true test.
by TheDoctorIsIn on Dec 11, 2009 10:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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