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What's better, 30 points and 15 rebounds (5 offensive) or 30.5 points and 4.5 rebounds, including a game with no (0 (zero (none (bupkes)))) offensive rebounds? This really doesn't take a genious. Klay Thompson had a game where he played out of his mind. It was a game that he may never in his life duplicate. So is that good enough to win Pac-10 Player of the Week? No. It isn't. Not when Quincy Pondexter played a game that is probably better than any game any Pac-10 player will have all year.

Pac-10 Player of the Week implies that the entire week will be taken into account. Not one game. Yet those who vote on the award snubbed Quincy Pondexter of his second honor in two weeks because Klay Thompson played one great game. The irony? Klay Thompson won on the shoulders of a game that was WORSE THAN QUINCY PONDEXTER'S. His first game was worse than Pondexter's. His second game, which was the best game he's ever played and may ever play, was still not as good as the game that Quincy Pondexter played.

So what is it voters? Is it the best volume week, the best per game week, or a combination of both? Because if it's the first then I guess Klay gets the award. But if it's either of the other two, especially the third (which I, and everybody else has been led to believe that it is) then Quincy Pondexter was flat out robbed this week. Or is it just whoever scores the most points, which doesn't make any sense at all? Seriously guys, get your heads out of your asses. Quincy Pondexter is playing as well as anybody in the nation, and deserves to be rocognized for it. Market your marquee players. If Thompson had put up his numbers against better opponents then I can understand, but he did it against Eastern Washington (UW's exhibition opponent) and IPFW (who?).

Or maybe it's an aggregate vote. When comparing the seasons of Pondexter and Thompson, Pondexter is higher in ORating, TS%, FTR, Free Throw %, Rebounding % (Offensive and defensive), and Assist/Turnover ratio. There is no contest here. So nope, can't be that.

Quincy Pondexter is 2/2 for Pac-10 Player of the Week awards as far as I'm concerned. Any argument to the contrary is ignorant. So lets vote on it. The last option is for Cougar fans, because Husky fans who read this blog are familiar with this.

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How wrong was this award?
Wrong
16 votes
Very Wrong
14 votes
Extremely Wrong
21 votes
Could Not Be More Wrong
48 votes
I Don't Understand Statistics, So I'm Not Qualifed To Vote
7 votes

106 votes | Poll has closed

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UNBELIEVABLE

Q. Pon is gonna get us a discounted rate to the Big Dance! (Bad jokes are all over the place today!) Seriously…this kid is going to TURN heads, once the analyst at Sport Center realize that there are teams west of Michigan and north of UCLA….

Keep winning and good things will happen!

by bigdave967 on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

Look, you can debate the merits of the award itself and the award critieria, but your argument is wrong...

Because offensive rebounds are the hallmark of a truly great guard

Klay may never have as good of a shooting night but he will definitely have better games in his career. Kid’s a sophomore…

Klay had bad competition? San Jose St. really puts the fear of god into people. With a frontcourt that was in foul trouble all night. Stones cast… glass houses…

Aggregate-wise, obviously Pondexter’s having a better season. He probably will have a better year, though as a Coug I’d argue a large part of that is because Klay will be the total focus of opponents and Pondexter has better talent around him right now. But the relevant statistics would be tempo-free stats for the week, not for the season. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pondexter still led for the week, but it would be nice to know for sure.

Maybe you’re riled up for Apple Cup week and are making a joke about Coug fans not understanding tempo-free stats. I hope so. Otherwise I’d have to point out that Nuss has been using those same stats for several years (inspired by the insipid pace of Bennett-Ball, pointing out how we were better than traditional stats show). CougCenter has been doing the Four Factors thing at least for a year.

That said.. I’ve always honestly thought that the award was for volume, and unless a player has one unbelievable game against a great opponent he’s likely to lose out to another player who had a great week. I thought the word “week” in the award indicated the whole length of the time period considered, not just the frequency of the awarding.

by johnnycougar on Nov 24, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

The only thing I will say is

You are wrong about Thompson duplicating this game. Remember, this was only his third game under the new up-tempo system and he is a sophomore. He won’t put up 37 against a pac-10 team, but he will go 35+ a few more times in his career here.

by spencer peaty on Nov 24, 2009 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

He went for 43

So get ready for Klay to win the award again this week. He now leads the nation in points scored and points per game.

by MattPD on Nov 29, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

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