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Picking the Pac Week 12

The Huskies and the Trojans have the week off to lick their wounds before playing rivarly games next weekend. All eyes will be on Tucson this week as the Ducks and Wildcats face off for a possible Rose Bowl bid.

Arizona State at UCLA

If UCLA beats the Sun Devils they become bowl eligible by guaranteeing at least a 6-6 season. Not sure if 6-6 will actually get them a bowl because the guaranteed Pac 10 blowl slots will be automatically filled by teams with better records. Before we get ahead of ourselves lets talk about lowly ASU. The Devils sport a defense that leads the conference in penalties and personal fouls. Make no doubt about it that the circus will continue against the fragile UCLA offense this week in the Rose Bowl. I think ASU's defense gives them the edge even though the game is going to be played on the road. I can see the ASU defense scoreing a coule of TD's which may be all their struggling offense needs to win this game.

ASU by 3

Oregon State at Washington State

This will get ugly quickly and be over at the end of the first quarter. The Beavers have way too much firepower for the Cougars to contend with.

OSU by 35

California at Stanford

The Bears have held it together this season after consecutive ugly losses to Oregon and USC. Arch rival Stanford is coming off a convincing victory against USC last week. Stanford's power, emerging balance on offense, and a tough defense will prevail.

Tree by 10

Oregon at Arizona

This one is for all the marbles in the Pac 10. If Oregon wins all they have to do is beat OSU next week in another winner take all game to go to the Rose Bowl. Arizona surprised us in a loss to Cal last week. The Bears were able to slow down the Zona offense and Nick Foles when it counted in the fourth quarter. Oregon's offense has been pretty unstoppable this season but we were all surprised when the Tree manhandled them a couple of weeks ago.

Arizona is a good team and they are playing in front of a big home crowd with the ESPN Game Day in attendance. This may just be the biggest game in the history of the school. I think the Cal loss was pretty telling. I don't think Arizona can slow down the Oregon spread enough to win this game. I also think Oregon has the edge overall on defense and special teams.

Ducks by 10

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Exactly how I would pick em too,

so that means based on my past history that there will at least 2 of those picks going the other way. Best chance for different outcome is Cal, rivalry game.

by prrbrr on Nov 19, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

That is why we don’t lay our money down on the table.

by John Berkowitz on Nov 19, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that's why they play the game

I know, that’s not very original. I agree with the picks too. My upset would be ucla, although John called it a tight game of 3 points.

OSU is a no brainer, and Oregon and Stanford are too title driven to blow it this week. The same should apply to Arizona, especially at home, but they’re not ready for prime time.

Rest up dawgs, and good luck recruiting.

by dawgdude on Nov 19, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Go Zona!

I think Oregon is going to find beating Arizona is going to be tougher then expected. Zona knows what is on the line. I’m going to give Arizona the nod because of venue. Don’t think for a second that home field advantage plays a significant part.

I can deal with Arizona or Oregon State in the Rose Bowl, but the last thing I need in my life is stomaching a duck in Pasadena on New Year’s Day.

Givem’ hell Cats! WOOF!!!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think Arizona can win, but Oregon is the better team this year. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Oregon State beat the Ducks in a couple weeks and go Rose Bowling.

by kirkd on Nov 19, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Must admit (dammit)

But Oregon is the better team. But Arizona only needs to play well on Saturday. If they can squeeze down on Masoli, keep the duck running game under wraps, and don’t give up the big play- Arizona wins this game.

Oregon thrives on the big play. You miss a tackle and it’s audios-muchachos!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Translation?

Crazi- Is that “vocal friends???”

Expect to Win!!!

by OLDDOG on Nov 20, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Give me anybody on New Year's Day other then the ducks

Stanford, Oregon State, or Arizona. But if the zeros are playing The Ohio State University, I’m going to become a one day Buckeye fan.

hate the ducks!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For Crazi's happieness

I think he should start rooting for the Beavers. And don’t count out Stanford.

by dawgdude on Nov 20, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually pulling for Stanford

Harbough is a hot name right now. And if Harbough got the trees to the Rose Bowl, he’d be hired either at Notre Dame or Michigan. More Michigan because he played QB at Ann Arbor.

And who couldn’t apprieciate the Stanford ground game? Oregon State has the mighty mite Rogers brothers [yawn]. But I love the Stanford ground attack (Bulldozer vs. stockcar in the dirt- who’s going to win?).

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 21, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

one more comment on UCLA

If they do become bowl eligible, what bowl in their right mind would offer them. Does anyone remember the 500 fans they had for Vegas bowl against Utah a few years back, followed by their selection the next year for the emerald bowl over Gilby’s 6-6 UW team, for the supposed TV rating interest. When will the bowls and networks get it, UCLA is a basketball school, at least they used to be.
       One more topic, good news for UW on graduation rates, both student general population as well as student athletes. See Condotta’s blog for breakdown. Someone needs to send this list to Terrance Jones and Josh Smith and Nick Rowlands mothers. See bottom 2.

by prrbrr on Nov 19, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ucla is a nationally know recognized name

Back East they only see and hear USC and Ucla. Agreed Ucla is a basketball school first and foremost. But Easterners don’t know that.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Princeton Fuimaono

This is a bit off topic but I was watching some film of a few of the UW commits and was a bit shocked at the speed/quickness of this guy. Hard to believe he isn’t rated higher as this is one of the more impressive films I’ve seen in a while. The kids ability to just throw guys to the ground with one arm is amazing.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=94931&season=2010&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d94931%26season%3d2010

by Snostrebla on Nov 19, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Word is other teams are picking up on him and Sark will probably have to work pretty hard to keep him committed.

by kirkd on Nov 19, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Evaluation

Our coaches can evaluate talent plus they have a pretty good knowledge of the kids in LA because so many of them have camped at USC. I imagine that will continue. A kid like Fuimaono isn’t going to get an offer from SC because they simply don’t have enough room since they feast on the five and four star kids…add to that they recruit nationally…a sleeper like this kid falls a little under the radar in La but he has had plenty of interest since he verbaled to UW. Rumor is he and timu might be a little of a challenge to hold on to because their parents would like to see them stay closer to home. So keep an eye on UCLA.

by John Berkowitz on Nov 19, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always be wary of Rick,

one of the best closers among HCs

by prrbrr on Nov 20, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Raters must not like his size

because he sure has the results. They talk about someone’s potential to be great. Fuimaono plays great now, his potential is his future growth.

by dawgdude on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad if that happens

we need a big upgrade in speed on our D and this kid has a ton of it. Doesn’t look like he has tripped up here yet maybe Sark can get him and his parents up here and “seal the deal”.

by Snostrebla on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We're going to get grade A choice meat Players

Sark and the coaching staff will bring in top players from the west coast. Snostrebla is right, if we can get them to trip up here it would seal the deal. Kids know who Sark and Holt are in SoCal, they know their prep coaches and are on very good terms with them.

Currently we are riding high on a 3-7 record. What does that say to recruits? Not much. They saw the “I Bark for Sark Show” vs. LSU and they saw us take it to USC. I think every recruit on the west coast got a glimpse as to what to expect from Sark, Holt, and Washington in the upcoming seasons. Sark and Holt are not going to be satisfied until they get back to the Rose Bowl. I expect to see every new recruiting class will get bigger and better from this point forward.

So we are looking at possibly losing Jake Locker to the NFL draft. Are you afraid? I’m not. Jake is a tremendously gifted athlete, best in the Pac 10, and arguably the best ever to suit up in Husky purple. Don’t fool yourselves and quit panicing Lear! Remember when we lost out on the Heaps sweepstakes to BYU? Within a week we got a commitment from Nick Montana and boy oh boy did that change the perspective of the recruiting! We’re going to be okay fellas. Another Jake will come around. Don’t think for a second that if we do lose Jake to the pros this season that it won’t benefit the program. One reason we haven’t gotten great talent up here in the past might have a correlation with the depleted numbers of Washington players being drafted. If Locker goes in the early first round of the NFL draft- what does that say about coach Sark? Under the old coach, Locker wasn’t even close to being ready to be a pro style NFL QB. Within one full season under Sark, Locker and Clausen are the frontrunners to be drafted. Last season it was all about Tebow, Bradford, and McCoy. This season those three guys are sitting behing Locker and Clausen. That is a huge statement about the job coach Sark did on Jake in the offseason. Kids aren’t dumb- they see a great thing in front of them. More on Holt to come…

I Bark for Sark! WOOF!!!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 20, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holt is the MAN!

Some have attacked Nick Holt’s tirades on the sideline. They have criticized his emotional outburst and frowns. What those folks don’t see is a coach that demands high defensive expectations from his players. Defense is about “nastiness”. Your job as a defender is to blow up everything in front of you, to destroy the opposing ballcarrier with the ball. To play bigtime college football on defense, you really have to have a mean streak about you. You’ve got to love the defensive side of the ball, you have to play with a reckless abandon, and you have to play with an emotional swagger.

Now teachers use different tactics to get in touch with their students. The focus of the teacher is to come prepared, know the material being covered, and know what makes your students tick. If what Nick Holt is doing on the sideline gets his kids motivated then surely it is a great tool. I for one welcome a defensive coordinator to be an emotional train wreck on the sideline. It sets the defensive tone, it sends a message that our style of defense is going to be an all-out-attack on the opposition.

Now right now, defensively we are limited in what we can do. Holt wants to use defensive tactics that he learned at USC. But we just don’t have the defensive athletes to run those schemes. Oh sure we can run them, but without the athletism it requires we could set up the oppostion for a big play.

Consider this. We all want to see an attack style defense, i.e. blitzing and stunting from all angles on the defensive front. Please take note that whenever you do blitz, something is always left open for the opposing offense to exploit. So if we want an attack style defense then surely we need to have the althetism to get a quicker blitz into the earhole of the QB before he can exploit the vacant area the defender left behind. Or more athletism from the blitzing LBs teammates in order to squeeze down on the vacant area. Right now we just don’t have the required athletism to be creative enough to suit our wants and needs.

Our defensive woes are not due to schematics. We’re okay in that department. Coach Holt is one of the very best in the business. He knows defense inside and out. The problems we are dealing with right now in terms of our defensive play is more or less personnel issues. We lack athletism, speed, maturity, and defensive know-how. Those four categories make up “Talent”. We lack defensive talent in many areas on the defensive side of the ball.

So when you see us playing a cloud coverage, loose zone coverage and playing “Base” up front- it’s not that Nick Holt is not creative. It’s by design fellas. When you don’t have defensive talent nor defensive depth the best alternative is to try to minimize the damage the opposing offense can do. I’m buying in! How else do you explain it? Holt knew coming in that this defense was going to be challenging to try to slow down Pac 10 offenses. He basically said that in his initial press conference when hired. He knew from the get go that it was going to be rather difficult to stop folks consistently through out the Pac 10 grinding season. So what did Holt bring in to try to offset our lack of ability to make consistent stops? He didn’t develop this defense into a defensive stopper- it wouldn’t worked with the personnel we currently have. Instead he developed this defense into a big play defense. If you’ve noticed, we’ve struggled to stop folks on 3rd downs, its been rather discouraging at best. But have you noticed our turnover margin on defense? With basically the same personnel from the 0-12 season, Holt wasn’t going to be able to turn this thing around in one season. To turn the defense around into an attack stop-making defense requires his sort of players, or USC defenisve style players. Those fellas are coming, you can bet on that!

To criticize Nick Holt after one season with Ty and Donatell’s players is flat out rediculous! And if you don’t like Holt’s frown then I suggest you play intermurals. That is the look of championship football brotha- take a look at every coaches face on the USC sideline, every USC coach has that same look of passion, desire, and excitement.

It’s not the schematics that fail us, we just don’t have the talent to run those schemes and be successful at it right now. Wait…

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 20, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya right

That is the look of championship football.
It’s not the schematics that fail us

What really scares me is that you might actually believe that! Sorry Crazi, you couldn’t be more wrong. Our defense has been pitiful, there is nothing “championship” about it, and our schemes have been just as pitiful. Keep waving your pom poms and drining the kool aid, I’d hate for you to think with your own head, instead of just buying the company line.

"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Nov 21, 2009 9:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Crazi on this...I think.

We just don’t have the personel at the moment to run a real agressive D and be sucessfull. That will change as we recruit more speed and will give Holt more D schematic options. We all want to see the Dawgs blitz like hell and get after it but our D back field has gotten burned most of the times we’ve done this. As the personel gets better so will the schemes.

by Snostrebla on Nov 21, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Questioning yourself??

My biggest problem with our defense has been the lack of variety. I agree that we don’t have the talent to play a very aggresive defense, but I think Holt went to the far other end of the spectrum. All we’ve run is a 4-3 zone defense all season. Occasionally you have to play man, or blitz, or how overload one side by blitzing the LB, and droping the opposite DE into a zone? I just want to see some creativity or variety. Running the same defensive play over and over is easy to defeat.

"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Nov 21, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed Lear...

…I too wonder why we don’t get more creative with pressure AND why on certain downs we don’t play nickel and dime.

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 21, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if I was reading Crazi's point correctly...

But to be honest, if you listen to Hardcore Football with Huge Millen on KJR then you’d know that we’ve tried most of the D that you listed only to get burned a large % of the time. Most of what you are asking for leaves CB’s & Safeties on an island. Now ask yourself how well our CB’s & Safeties have done in one on one coverage this year…

by Snostrebla on Nov 21, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No offense to Millen

I haven’t heard him talk about it myself, but I know we haven’t been creative enough on defense. Every time we drop into zone, it’s a two deep or three deep zone. There has been no “creative” zones, it’s all been very bland, very straight forward, and very easy for an opposing QB to read. The problem is Holt only believe is blitzing from man coverage. You can blitz anybody and still drop into a zone, you’ll just be spread out a little thinner, you wouldn’t leave ANYBODY out on an island. Our LB’s are horrible at playing zone defense, they drop straight back, they don’t move towards or away from receivers, they play like the LB’s in a video game. Kent Baer got fired for running this very defense, Ed Donatell got fired for running this very defense, if Holt doesn’t change it up a bit, he’ll just be another name on the list.

"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Nov 21, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too many freshman...

…I guess the philosophy is to play all the young guys. They seem to definitely be building for the future. I’ve seen other programs do that. They play all of their talented youngsters to get the benefits down the road. I remember reading that about NC, there was a pretty big jump the next season, let’s hope we do the same!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 21, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

huskies beat domers

Uconn of course.
Insignificant team really.
Sounds likme weis is gone.
Saban sweepstakes in a couple months.
Stanford will pummel nd.

by PandG on Nov 21, 2009 3:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

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