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Crapple Cup Part 2: Why it Matters This Time.

Last year, the state of Washington hosted perhaps the most useless rivalry game in major football conference history when 0-10 Washington traveled to Pullman to take on 1-9 Washington State.  Every Husky fan can vividly remember the feeling of desperation that lied in our hopes of avoiding a win-less season against the also hapless Cougs.  Anyway you sliced it, the game did not matter to anyone not affiliated with the programs involved.

 

Flash forward to November the 28th of this year.  The much improved 3-7 Huskies host a much the same 1-9 Cougar squad.  So, beyond the rivalry, what makes this game matter?

Star-divide

In a word; recruiting.

 

The Huskies will host 5 prospects who are not only ranked in the top 50 of their respective positions, but are all positions of need going forward.  (all ratings are courtesy of dawgman.com)


Hayes Pullard: #3 MLB - Hayes would fill a void left by Donald Butler, who will graduate this year.  He is a big athletic "prototype" MLB who has great instincts and finds himself involved in nearly every play.

Kevin Smith: #21 S -Kevin has been quite overlooked in terms of offers from major schools (Colorado, Arizona and UW are his only reported offers).  However he has all the tools to be a quality player. Smith is a versitle athlete that can play either side of the ball.  He clocks in at 6'1" 200lbs and runs a reported 4.45 40 yard dash.  He has the type of speed and physical body makeup that the Huskies can really use in a depleted seconardy.

Micah Hatchie: #25 OT - Micah is a tall long armed tackle prospect who is a project.  He has the body and the fundamentals but will need a redshirt year.  All signs point to a quality prospect who should only get better as he is allowed to blossom.

Lawrence Lagafuaina: #45 DT - Lawrence is a big run stuffing "bowling ball" type of prospect.  He has a wide body but could stand to have a redshirt year to allow his fundamentals to catch up with his physical gifts.  A Lagafuaina/Potoae DT tandem could be one of the better pairs for any school in the 09-10 class.

Troy Hill: #45 CB - Troy is a lockdown type of corner who's been high on UW for quite some time now. He's seen his stock drop recently due to some of the "sleepers" having breakout years, but make no mistake that Hill is an elite player.  He could use some time in the weight room, but he is a smooth, quick and agile true corner who could come in and possibly contribue as a true Freshman.

 

With room for as many as 7-8 more prospects in the current class, and the remaining needs being the trench players and secondary athletes, this could be a make or break weekend for the 09-10 recruiting class.  Sark has done an amazing job hauling kids in early and locking down the best the state has to offer, but if UW shows signs that the program is not headed in the direction it needs to be, we could see alot of this talent (and talent from future classes) start to stray away from the Dawgs.

 

Last year, after the announcement that Tyrone Willingham would not be returning, there were no recruits hosted and nothing beyond pride to play for.  This year is different as the team finally shows signs of life, and a completely new coaching staff. 

 

The Apple Cup will always have a special place for UW and WSU fans alike, but with no bowl game in the picture for either team, for all intents and purposes does not carry much weight.  However, a look beneath the surface reveals alot more than most media outlets would lead on.

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How many points will UW win the Apple Cup by?
40-50
14 votes
30-39
31 votes
20-29
86 votes
10-19
67 votes
0-9
17 votes
They won't and the "Fire Coach Sark" chants begin!
11 votes

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It’s not just the recruiting, it’s about preventing WSU from doing something they’ve never done before – win 3 consecutive games vs. the UW. They’ve taken 2 in a row and 4 of the last 5 – it’s bad enough being the whipping boys for pretty good programs like Oregon and Oregon State, but WSU?

It’s time to start reclaiming the Pacific NW, and it starts in-state with WSU.

by kirkd on Nov 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also an excellent point...

but I excluded that because I feel like that matters every year. If we were 11-1 this year with our only loss to WSU it would be just as deflating (at least the week following) as going 0-12. At least for me.

I guess I just thought that goes without saying, but the recruiting angle is one that people seem to be overlooking. I have heard anyone saying anything about the kids who are visiting for the game and how in terms of need, it could be the most important recruiting week of the year.

by B Money on Nov 18, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

While it’s nice to win on a weekend recruits are visiting, it isn’t critical. What matters most is that they enjoy the environment, click with the players and coaches and that their parents are comfortable with the school. Winning that game is a bonus, but not necessary in order to get commitments.

Although in this case, losing to WSU would be seen as pretty bad even by recruits.

The biggest reason it’s a must-win is pride – WSU is horrible this year, and unlike last year, there is no valid excuse for losing this game.

by kirkd on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Playing a tough game against a ranked opponent like LSU and comming up a little short is acceptable at this point and is seen by most as a big step in the right direction.

Losing to a team like WSU will be looked at by all as a huge step backwards. We NEED to beat them by at least two touchdowns – preferably more.

by Snostrebla on Nov 19, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is my thought...

first game of the season in a packed HS can overcome some of the sting of a loss to #9 LSU. A 5-7k seat short HS and a loss (or even close win) to #118 WSU and you can be assured that we’re not in a good spot to land Hill or Pullard (arguably the two best and most needed).

by B Money on Nov 19, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Apple Cup

We need to start fast and get the crowd into it! GO DAWGS!! Living on the east side of the state this is the MOST important rivalry game!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 18, 2009 2:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have seen the ineptitude in person.

I was at the WSU/UCLA game last week. You don’t know how bad this team is till you see it in person. If the Dawgs don’t win by at least 21, I’ll be very upset. I don’t want to see Sark take his foot off the gas.

The fact that there were about 3000 (maybe) people left in Martin Stadium by the fourth quarter, on Dad’s weekend, should concern the cougar faithful to no end.

"Anytime, Anyplace"
"Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Husky nav on Nov 18, 2009 7:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WOW!

Can’t say that I blame them though, as bad as we were last year, this coug team is worse!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 19, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the Dawgs don’t win by at least 21, I’ll be very upset.

That’s about what I was thinking. Not only is there no excuse to lose to WSU, I’ll be disappointed if we don’t win by 20+. There’s no good reason why we shouldn’t be able to run for 200+ yards on them, especially with arguably their best DT out for the game – they already are giving up nearly 229 per game. Chris Polk should have a field day. Their pass efficiency defense is even worse than ours.

Simply put, WSU is the worst team we’ll play this year – worse than Idaho, and quite a bit worse than UCLA or ASU.

I don’t care about “rivalry game” and “anything can happen in an Apple Cup” and all that – this is a home game against a significantly inferior team. Simply no excuse not to win, and it shouldn’t even be close.

by kirkd on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

also,

We only had 13 scholarship defensive players in uniform last week. We have wide receivers and offensive linemen moving over to defense for the apple cup.

by spencer peaty on Nov 23, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!...

…maybe you guys should just discreetly bring it over to Seattle and we won’t bother even playing the game.

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 23, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe You Should...

…post bail and get them out of jail! Just kidding! I couldn’t resist that one!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 23, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Really no excuse for the Huskies to not run the ball all over the Cougs. Our OL isn’t very good, but WSU’s DL is even worse right now. Chris Polk should have a field day – 200+ yards for him isn’t out of the question.

by kirkd on Nov 23, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sWeet!...

…that would easily get him over 1000 yards…yet another incentive for the DAWGS!!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 23, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Another reason...the most important reason for the players

PRIDE!

Pride in beating your rival who embarassed you the past two seasons, pride for your school, pride for your community, pride in taking out the Cooogs for the seniors, pride for your family and friends…straight up P-R-I-D-E!

by bigdave967 on Nov 19, 2009 8:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

LMFAO at Crapple Cup!!!

God please don`t let Sark find a way to lose this game. This program can`t take any more turmoil. GO HUSKIES!

by 206 on Nov 19, 2009 10:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

It is being reported that WSU suiting up 45 players...

It isbeing reported that WSU is suiting up only 45 players for it’s home game against OSU. Usually teams suit up 60 or more for home games. Definitely BIG trouble in the Palouse.

The Tunnel is Hallowed and Sacred Ground

by bigdawgdaddy999 on Nov 19, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My vote (NOT of confidence)

I’m not sure we are going to win this game. We should’ve handed WSU a loss the last two games and came up on the wrong end of it. What makes this season any different?

Now I voted that we’d win by 0-9, but at this point I am not too confident that we pull through. Recent history indicates that the Apple Cup is more special to Cougs. How else do you explain our lackluster performances lately in this contest? Recently we’ve played careless in this game, while the Cougs have played with tremendous motivation.

Get the win please! So we can move on to bigger and better things next season with or without Jake.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What makes this season any different?

Four significant factors:

- Jake Locker is healthy;
- Change in coaching staffs from the already fired and unpopular Ty to the 1st year and mostly liked Sark;
- Better coaching staff than last year;
- It’s a home game

This Husky team knows they are better than they’ve shown lately, and they know they have an opportunity vs. WSU to work out a lot of their frustrations. It’ll be an interesting challenge for this coaching staff to both build up the confidence of their team without letting the players get too over-confident, but realistically, the Huskies should beat the Cougs handily. They should be comfortably ahead at halftime and able to play the 2nd and 3rd stringers in the 4th quarter.

by kirkd on Nov 19, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Crazi are you drunk!...

…just kidding…but seriously what are you saying!?

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What I am saying is...

… I’m tired of being the odds on favorite in this contest and coming up losing. We’ve lost the last two Crapple Cups, when clearly we were the better team. Hell it’s gotten so bad that our lackluster performances have made Alex Brink look like a proven big time college QB. Brink sucked at QB, but every time we made him look good.

Just win this game so we can move onto bigger and better things.

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Free Safety

I remember the game in Seattle where Brink would just run for his life and at the last minute just throw up a hail mary pass. If I’m not mistaken that happened multiple times. The last one was for a TD to a wide open WR in the middle of the field. Where was the Free Safety?

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 20, 2009 6:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ASU

Where was the Free Safety?

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 20, 2009 6:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be Mesphin.

Mesphin always had a knack for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It never ceased to amaze me.

by wobbly wobbly on Nov 24, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mesphin Forrester

Not even on the roster this year.

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 25, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Because he graduated.

by kirkd on Nov 25, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great fan post B Money

I voted for a 20-29 pt win. Talent wise we could easily put it on ‘em and get it up to the 40 pt range -but, as recent history indicates, winning the game on paper doesn’t always translate to a vicory on the field.

Also, all of these recruits would be big gets!

by Bamer_ on Nov 19, 2009 11:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I leave tomorrow for Seattle

I know its over a week away but I got tickets for My old man and I for the Apple Cup and I would love to meet some of you that may be making the trip to Montlake as well. Either way I’m sure there will be posts later just throwing the heads up for what its worth…

Back on subject….I REALLY REALLY Hope you are wrong Crazi!!! I may literally jump onto the field and beat Sark up (try my best at least) if we lose this game….

by bigdave967 on Nov 20, 2009 6:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I got your back...

..I’ll run out there with you!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 20, 2009 6:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's all i needed for confidence

Sark better get his coaching cap on or else!

by bigdave967 on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

We should win this game by the end of the 3rd quarter. I tend to vent a lot of frustration out now and then. This horrible Coug team can’t win 3 Crapple Cups in a rowl. I just want to see us get the win, no smack talk to Coug fans, just get the win so we can move on to bigger and better things.

I’m thinking in the future our big rivalry game will become USC- wouldn’t that be sweet? But to get there we’ve got to start figuring out how to win. Next Saturday is step 1 my friend.

WOOF!!!

All I saw was purple

by crazidawg on Nov 20, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the only way I would approve of rushing the field!

no way should we lose this game. And perhaps more importantly no way should we rush the field in victories other than major, MAJOR, upsets.

by Bamer_ on Nov 20, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IT MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s for state bragging rights and I don’t care if both teams are 0-11…it matters!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO DAWGS!! Kavario since you popped off, back it up!!!!!!!!!!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is there an online thread.

Fuck, why did we have to leave Seattle for Minneapolis?

Ian Anderson

by Oaktown123 on Nov 28, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

30-0!!!!!!!!!!!

sWeet!!!!!! er ah I mean aWesome Apple Cup performance DAWGS!!!!!!!!!

First Apple Cup shutout since 1964!!!! WOO! HOO!

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Dec 14, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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