The Monday Morning Wash
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 6:27 AM PST
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Well it is back to the drawing board during the second bye week of the year before Washington finishes its season against Washington State and California at home. What started in August with so much promise is starting to look more and more like 2008 with two games left.
The coaches goal for the next three weeks at this point is simply survival. They need to rally their team to finish strong with a victory over Washington State and a competitive game with California so they can finish the season on a high note.
The only thing that is going to make this team better going into the future is a better collection of bigger, faster, more dedicated, and stronger athletes. We all knew that going into this season but somehow we expected a litt more. We expected the breaks to go our way and somehow get into a bowl game. Last second losses against Notre Dame, ASU, and UCLA dashed those hopes. So close but yet so far.
Even with a bowl out the window the Huskies can still accomplish some good things in the last two games. RS Frosh RB Chris Polk is sitting at 900 yard with two games left. Picking up over 1000 yards is quite an accomplishment when you consider the quality of his offensive line.
The Apple Cup is always a big game no matter what the teams records are going in. Jake Locker has never won an Apple Cup as a starting QB. The Huskies have lost two in a row to the Coug's. Playing a team like Washington can be a great confidence builder for a team that is on a losing streak.
The key for this team is to circle the wagons, pull together, and finish strong. If they don't there will be more questions going into 2010 than there were going into 2009.
Recruiting News
Washington picked up a commitment from one of the best linebackers on the West coast in MLB Victor Burnett from Culver City, Ca.. Burnett is the 23rd known recruit in the 2010 class.
Around the Pac 10
Stanford 55 USC 21
Toby Gerhart rushed for 178 yards and three TD's to lead Stanford to a crushing victory over the Trojans. Andrew Luck threw two touchdown passes and ran for another score for the Cardinal (7-3, 6-2 Pac-10), who followed up their surprising rout of Oregon last week with a strong start and a big finish at the Coliseum. Richard Sherman returned an interception 42 yards for a score with 11:41 to play, part of a 27-point fourth quarter for the Cardinal.
California 24 Arizona 16
Credit the Bears for not folding this season once they fell out of the Rose Bowl race. Give them even more credit for bouncing back from a tough loss to Oregon State. Shane Vereen scored on a 61-yard run immediately after an illegal forward pass knocked Arizona out of position for a potential game-winning field goal, and the Golden Bears went on to a 24-16 victory over the Wildcats
Oregon 44 Arizona State 21
LaMichael James ran for 150 yards and three touchdowns. LeGarrette Blount suited up and was ready to play for the first time since his suspension for punching an opponent was lifted -- but only watched as Oregon had little problem with the Sun Devils. The Sun Devils' run defense, the best in the Pac-10 going into the game, allowed the Ducks to gain 268 yards on the ground. Oregon quarterback Jeremiah Masoli completed 10 of 20 passes for 120 yards and two touchdowns. He was intercepted once.
UCLA 43 Washington State 7
Kevin Prince threw for 314 yards and ran for a touchdown as UCLA beat Washington State 43-7 on Saturday in a showdown of the bottom two teams in the Pacific-10. The Bruins even their slate at 5-5 and need to win one of the last two to become bowl eligible.
Pac 10 Power Rankings
1. Oregon...The good news is the Ducks control their Rose Bowl destiny with two games to go. The bad news is the final two games are against Arizona and OSU.
2. Stanford...I knew the Cardinal were pretty good after they took apart the Huskies earlier in the year. The impressive thing is they have kept getting better. Up next are Cal and Notre Dame.
3. Oregon State...The Beavers were very impressive in their trashing of Washington on Saturday. Up next are the Cougars and a possible battle for Pasadena in Autzen?
4. Southern California...Can you actually say Sun Bowl and Trojans in the same sentence? Up next are two more games they can lose against UCLA and Arizona.
5. California...Give credit to the Bears for not folding this season once they fell out of the Rose Bowl race. Give them even more credit for bouncing back from a tough loss to Oregon State.
6. Arizona...The Wildcats had Pasadena in their sights but didn't get it done against Cal. They still get a shot at Oregon and finish with the Sun Devils. UA still has control of their RB destiny if they beat Oregon. I don't think they can beat Oregon.
7. UCLA...The Bruins move to 5-5 as Rick Neuheisel starts talking bowl game. Before he gets too carried away they have to beat ASU next week. Looks like a winnable game for the Bruins.
8. Arizona State...The Brock Osweiler era started against the Ducks who promptly knocked him out of the game. The Devils finish with UCLA and Arizona.
9. Washington...We haven't had the Huskies ranked this low all season but the OSU debacle does that to a team. The Huskies have a week off before finishing with WSU and Cal.
10. Washington State...The season is over in Pullman except for the annual Apple Cup. The Cougs tend to play better than they are in that game while the Huskies do the opposite. Before that happens though the Cougs get the Beavers.
Pac 10 Player of the Week
Toby Gerhart of Stanford tore up USC for 178 yards and three TD's
Husky Player of the Week
Jermaine Kearse pulled down two TD catches in a loss the the Beavers.
Quote of the Week
Steve Sarkisian commenting on the Husky Defensive effort - "I think they kind of wore out. We didn't help them. I think at halftime we had only ran maybe a little over 20 plays. We weren't keeping them off the field. They were in horrible field positions they were put into today with the interception, with the shanked punt, with the big kickoff return. Those are not fun positions to be in when you're starting at your own end of the field on defense.''
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The O-line and D-line is Weak!
This year has really highlighted the major flaw in the past coaching staff’s recruiting effort and that has been on the both lines.
We are consistently being outmanned by the other teams lines which has a direct correlation on how the team as a whole has been playing.
You can’t win when you can’t protect the QB and you can’t win if you can’t pressure the other team’s QB’s.
Hopefully Sark is able to recruit some highly regarded linemen. They’ve done a great job on the o-line hopefully we can fill up the rest of the class with some d-linemen.
by john_s on Nov 16, 2009 6:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Recruting
Recruiting is the only thing that will really fix that and the coaches know that too. Washington has the making of a great class coming in for 2010 which will number 30 or more players. The last kid to commit was a reall good one. Victor Burnett is one of the better MLB’s in the country.
Look for UW to bring in 27 HS players and 3-4 JC’s to plug some immediate holes on the lines and in the secondary.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 7:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Im very excited about this class, they staff has come out in their first full year of recruiting and are coming up aces. I’d like to see another o-lineman, a TE, a DE a couple of DT’s and DB’s.
I’m excited that they’ve recruited guys that can play on either side of the ball like Callier, Campbell, Timu, Stevenson, Hartvigson, Lowe and Kearse. It’s going to allow us to build up depth that we haven’t had before.
The guy that i’m really looking forward to seeing is Brent Williams. He looks like he couple play the old Elephant position that we had during out dominant defense years. Anyone who can rack up 17 sacks and 29 tackle for losses regardless the level is a guy who can put pressure on the ball and I love it!
by john_s on Nov 16, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They will try
to bring in some JC players. The UW administrators may scuttle the effort even if the JC guys get by the NCAA clearing house
by T9ODawg on Nov 16, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Charles Garcia
is a good example of the UW Admin scuttling the efforts. He qualified for school, but the Admin still tells him no. There’s gotta be a change made to how the Admin looks at JC kids.
I understand the PE situation, but if a kid academically qualifies then there should be no reason why they should not be admitted.
by john_s on Nov 16, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was my point of refernce
I couldn’t remember the name….Thanks
by T9ODawg on Nov 16, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nasty deal
If a kid qualifies a kid qualifies….that was one piece of dirty business.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JCs
It wouldn’t surprise me to see the coaches stop looking at the JCs. I mean why bother if they can’t get them into school? Dick Baird was hoping that something could be done on an administrative level like they did at Cal but somehow I don’t think that’s going to happen.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nasty deal
Yeah, it was very prejudicial on the part of those guys/gilrs, who the he** ARE those guys/girls? Just a body of upper campus snobs? Do they have names? Do they have offices? Do they have to answer to ANYONE? They had no reason to not let Garcia in, yet they showed their prejudice anyway. And I will call it prejudice until they can show it was not. Tell them to man up and tell us why they are making these decisions. WHO ARE THOSE GUYS/GIRLS? COWARDS!
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nasty deal
So, John, who was responsible for denying Charles Garcia? What was their reasoning? Anyone fessing up on this? Probably just a committee somewhere, right?
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't have a clue
I am sure that Romar and Garcia have a good idea but beyond that it is anyone’s guess. From what I have heard the board didn’t think he could make it once he got in. To be honest academics have been a struggle for the kid. He had to take the basketball season off the study.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't have a clue
Well, ok then, as long as there is someone up there that can honestly decide if a kid can make it before they even try then cool. I mean, why even try if someone up there says ‘you can’t make it kid, go away’. Mr. Garcia might well have had a hard time at the UW, frankly, I had a hard time before I finally got my M.B.A. School is supposed to be hard. I am mistified why everyone is letting some uknown person make such decisions on people’s lives and not do something about it. This is a very bad scenario to be continuing. Hey, maybe it’s Mr. Potter, you know, “1A…1A…1A”. There is no excuse for what these people did to Mr. Garcia. If he qualifies for acceptance but then can’t make it at UW, let him prove it, don’t start deciding who is 1A and who is not based on personal feelings. That is just plain wrong.
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, really? So we should just do away with admissions standards then? Just let anyone in?
Every one of us that attended the UW had to be screened by an admissions committee. We all had to show evidence as to why we deserved to be admitted above other qualified candidates. All of us that then enrolled in a competitive major had to once again submit ourselves to an admissions committee for that program.
Garcia had a rough time academically, both in H.S. and at his various J.C.‘s. Let’s not forget that he had to take extra classes and transfer to a different J.C. just to get to the minimum entrance requirements for the UW.
Is it really so awful for the admissions committee to look at Garcia’s transcripts and decide that he had little chance to succeed academically at the UW? Let’s also keep in mind that such rigorous standards helps our athletic programs – take too many guys that end up not graduating and it comes back to bite the program in the butt in the form of scholarship reductions (see WSU’s football team).
Finally, let’s also keep in mind that none of us know the truth about exactly what happened in the case of Garcia. There were a lot of whispers at the time that Garcia was denied admission to the UW that this was in fact a cover for the reality that he really wanted to play for Cameron Dollar, and when Dollar left for Seattle U, Garcia wanted to follow him.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He did meet the standards Kirk
He did do enough to get into the UW. I guess the point is they didn’t think he had what it would take to get through the next two years.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He met the bare minimum for consideration. The committee (supposedly) decided that even though he’d met the bare minimum, he was an academic risk. I really have no problem with that.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really Kirk? How do YOU know?
I think John said it when he said that NO ONE KNOWS WHY they did not let Garcia in. Of course you don’t do away with standards, duh. But when a kid qualifies then he qualifies. That, my friend, is THE standard. Anything else is subjective nd prejudicial. There were never any rumprs that UW did this so Garcia could go play with SU and Dollar. If he wanted to go to SU he could go to SU, he didn’t need UW to slap him in the face to get him to go away.
by thedesertdog on Nov 17, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There were never any rumprs that UW did this so Garcia could go play with SU and Dollar. If he wanted to go to SU he could go to SU, he didn’t need UW to slap him in the face to get him to go away.
Just because you didn’t see those rumors doesn’t mean they don’t exist. They do. A person who is close to the UW basketball program and writes about them regularly has talked about this rumor.
And no, Garcia couldn’t just go to SU – he had signed a scholarship agreement with the UW. The only way out was for him to not qualify.
And yes, we DO know that an admissions committee rejected him, because that’s what we’ve been told happened. We can infer from what we know about Garcia’s academic journey in the JC ranks that he had a difficult time making the grade, so it’s not hard to understand why the admissions committee looked at his academic transcripts and declined to admit him.
Look, those minimum standards that he met are an NCAA minimum – a school is not bound to accept a kid just because he met the minimum standards. Schools like Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame, Duke and many others all voluntarily use higher standards. The UW admissions department is well within their rights to deny admission to someone they feel is a strong academic risk. And if they are right, they actually saved Romar some headaches – if Garcia had been admitted and then was failing classes, Romar would’ve wasted a scholarship on a kid that couldn’t play, and then could potentially cost Romar a scholarship down the road if his academic failures impacted the UW basketball team’s APR.
by kirkd on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a subject to tread lightly on
… UW has admissions standards that are demanding. There are a number of benefits to keeping to these high standards not the least of which is the attraction of research-oriented resources to the university. My brother was a near straight-A student at Shoreline CC and did not have enough juice on his application to earn enrollment at UW. An applicant that “qualifies” is not the same as an applicant that has earned selection for enrollment. While I have no idea what led to Charles Garcia not getting admitted, I do know that universities that change their standards to allow for athletes, specifically, to get in tend to have NCAA troubles down the road. I don’t think that there is an easy fix for this problem.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Nov 16, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a subject to tread lightly on
Are you kidding me Gekko? Really? Don’t make waves? Come on. If you can’t question anyone and can’t make waves about decisions people make about other peoples lives then what have we become. One of the things I learned at UW was to make waves, to question everything. Maybe these admins need some extra schooling in this. But to not question authority flies in the face of everything UW and American. I know we are a great big University with lots of research, etc., but if one person is denied because of a prejudicial decision, then all is lost. The whole thing is then just a big phony baloney research-oriented quagmire. So, nope, I am not going to stop making waves on this one. Mr. Garcia was prejudicially wronged by my alma mater. That was shameful and just plain wrong. So, who did it?
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dude, I didn't say don't make waves ...
… I said be careful circumventing your own admissions standards to show favoritism towards athletes. That is when NCAA investigations occur. If you have some actual facts to back up your assertion that Garcia was “prejudicially wronged” I’d like to hear them. Otherwise, please don’t put words in my mouth.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Nov 17, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Recruiting & System Maturity
John,
I love your blogs first off! Very good coverage. I wish I had the time to do some fun analysis but I don’t. I bet you that if you looked at the first three years of program change under the likes of Harbough at Stanford, Richt at Georgia, Tedford at Cal, and Gundy at OK State, you’d find a similar trend… independent of W-L record. In other words, what types of players did they successfully recruit, how many per class in the first three years, what trends in key statistics changed during those three years (avg. points/game, avg. yards/game allowed vs. # of QB sacks, pressures, etc.) and then apply those metrics to the Dawgs over the next three years, we’d be able to really create success factors for Sark. I hate all this emotional crap about how we should be winning now and the coaches are to blame as much as the players, etc. etc. But I constantly remind my friends in the Tyee Club that we have players on the field any given Saturday this year who have no business playing at the D-1 Level. This program’s return to Top 10 status is going to take a while given the atrophy allowed over the last 15 years… from Hedges and Gerberding’s treatment of DJ, through the incompetence that existed in hiring Neuheisel (even I can win at Colorado with Bill McCartney’s team!), Todd Turner, and Willingham, through to not being able to recruit a real AD. Not that Woodward is bad, just unproven. The fact is, we’ve played beyond my expectations this year, and it will improve with new players over the next two years (assuming 25 per year) to where we expect it to be. These guys who are complaining now are just stupid and don’t really understand this game. By the way, I endured a coaching change personally from Doug Barfield to Pat Dye at Auburn in 1981 as a player. I know what I’m talking about when it comes to program and coaching changes. A similar thing had happened there (Barfield was an asst under Shug Jordan), but we just just didn’t experience two coaches who should have never been hired (Neu & Ty). The game of football has changed a lot but it hasn’t changed THAT MUCH!
by ORHusky on Nov 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We would all like to win now...
thanks for the comments…we would all like to win now and we came darn close against ND, ASU, and UCLA. Win those three and it changes a lot of moods out there. Fact is though this team needed some luck to go bowling this year and they got close but didn’t have enough gas in the tank to finish.
Jim Harbaugh took over a Stanford program that was labeled as the worst from a talent perspective the previous season that the conference had seen in the last couple of decades.
Stanford went 4-8 that first season (2007) after finishing 1-11 the previous year. The highlight of that first season was an upset over USC. Sound a little familar? The Cards also beat San Jose St, Arizona, and Cal.
Stanford went 5-7 last season (2008). They beat Oregon State, San Jose State, Washington, Arizona, and WSU.
This season the Cardinal are riding high at 7-3 with two games left. The question isn’t if they are going to a bowl…the question is which bowl? It took Jim Harbaugh three seasons to deliver a bowl game and a conference championship contending team.
Lets take a look at his recruiting classes:
2007 – #43 – 19 Players
2008 – #43 – 18 Players
2009 – #14 – 22 Players
Jim took what was left and added approximately 59 players to the mix over three seasons and with some solid coaching and development has rebuilt this program. The 2010 class he is currently working on ranks #12 in the country with 23 current commits. Keep in mind that until this season the Cardinal did not have a QB on the roster that was a future NFL talent.
To me it seems that Sarkisian is headed in the same direction as Harbaugh was three seasons ago. There is that signature victory over USC followed by some tough close losses. Once the season entered the final quarter there wasn’t a lot of gas left in the tank. Looks like we will beat our rival WSU to pick up that fourth win and anything can happen against Cal in the finale.
In 2010 we have class of around 30 players coming in that should rank within the top 15-20 classes in the country. I think it is a pretty reasonable assumption that this team should be able to be in better shape to be bowl eligible next season (Especially if Locker returns). With another solid class in 2011 I think it another reasonable assumption that this program will be back to competing for championships.
This was another tough season for Husky fans to stomach but even though we aren’t the least bit happy with the results things are definitely headed in the right direction under Sarkisian. Recruiting and development are the key components and I really believe this staff has what it takes to get it done.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hopeful the comparison to Harbaugh holds some water. The thing that’s difficult to quantify but is obvious to anyone that’s watched them is that Stanford has been transformed under Harbaugh into one of, if not the toughest teams in the country. They have taken on Harbaugh’s personality and forged an identity for that program that all newcomers have to live up to. It’s very reminiscent of what Husky football used to be like – they were talented kids, but not as hyped as those at USC and UCLA, so they took it upon themselves to be tougher than those teams and to out-work them, out-hit them and out-tough them.
I think Nick Holt is helpful in that regard, but I’m still not sure how “tough” Sarkisian and exactly what his coaching personality is.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
So this is exactly the kind of useful stuff to look at John. Thanks. It’s what good coaches focus on. If anyone really predicted more than four wins this year, they’re just naive. My four were Idaho, Arizona State, Arizona and Wazzu. Throw out the Devils, substitute a very average USC team this year and I’m pretty close. Honestly, do we think this year is a failure? I don’t, I think we’re on the right track despite what others might say.
One of the most defining moments and my best personal memory of Coach Dye was in one of his first press conferences, some journalist / fan guy making references to our previous 0-5 record vs. Bama, asks him “Coach, how long do you think it will take to beat Alabama?” Coach Dye looks him straight in the eye, then simply says “60 minutes”. We players knew what the expectations were and what we were going to have to do! BTW, we beat “The Bear” in Year 2, my last year on The Plains. 60 FULL minutes of smash mouth football at Legion Field in Birmingham. That and these three guys named Jackson, Fullwood and Agee and probably the best O-Line I’d witnessed until 1991’s UW O-Line. And what happened the following year, 1983, year three of Coach Dye’s tenure? We lost to Texas 20-7 as the only loss of the year, but go 11-1 and just out-muscled Schembechler’s Michigan team in the Sugar Bowl 9-7. My old teammate, and current Auburn AD Jay Jacobs who was on that roster says now that the foundation built in year one and two alllowed that all to happen. Harbough has been quoted in almost the same way this year.
We’re not capable of playing 60 minutes yet at UW. That’s just obvious to me. Recruiting, conditioning and what I call Time-In-System changes that. Sadly, UW’s previous coaching staffs possessed none of these.
by ORHusky on Nov 16, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JC's
John, I am very hopeful we can get some JC players for the OL and Dl, but I am very worried that the “upper-campus” characters will not let any JC guys in. Garcia qualified but somebody decided that he would not be a good candidate for graduation from UW, based on — his/her.their opinion, not qualification reasons. This is not a good trend. I was a transfer from a CC when I got out of the service and I graduated with a 3.2 average, earned an MBA and have had a nice career. This process has been very negative to athletes for so long and really needs to be reviewed. Having such arbitrary decisions made about transfers hurts not only the athelete and the team but the university as well.
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JC's II
Matangi Tongi is a heavy lean to UW at this point and he can come in and start on the DL. He is a player that is ready for the NFL but wants to play one more year of college ball to get his degree. He will have no problem qualifying for winter quarter if he indeed chooses UW.
Look for the Huskies to also try to get in 1-2 JC OL and a JC CB to complete the class.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord, get over yourself. There is no upper campus conspiracy. The issue the UW has had with JC transfers for football is the lack of a PE major, and thus the inability for JC kids to transfer all of the PE credits they get at JC’s.
You can argue that the UW should institute a PE major, but good luck with that given the state of the economy and the continually shrinking budgets the UW is getting from the State legislature.
It’s OK to have high academic standards…
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Get you facts straight Kirkd
Garcia was NOT denied because of PE credits. He was admitted, but not because of PE credits. So, my friend, get YOUR facts straight on this and don’t sweep it under the carpet because you think you know what went on. I think very few people really knew what went wrong, but, as John B said, it was nasty business and never about PE credits. I never said UW should have PE credits, did I? No, you did. I believe UW should have high standards. But when someone qualifies according to those standards, then what is the “hidden criteria” that allows someone to decide that they can’t go to UW because “they” think the young man or woman just won’t cut it in our University. This is not a private institution. It is one of the top 15 Universities in the world and should be held to a higher standard. That includes admission rules and being objective and not prejudicial. Do not be blind to prejudice coming at you from any angle. And this has NOTHING to do with UW high standards.
by thedesertdog on Nov 17, 2009 8:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your reading comprehension sucks. Please point out to me where I said Garcia was denied because of PE credits? Here, I’ll save you some time – I didn’t. I said:
The issue the UW has had with JC transfers for football is the lack of a PE major, and thus the inability for JC kids to transfer all of the PE credits they get at JC’s.
This was in response to your concern about the UW being able to get some JC players for the OL and DL.
I believe UW should have high standards.
I agree.
But when someone qualifies according to those standards, then what is the "hidden criteria" that allows someone to decide that they can’t go to UW because "they" think the young man or woman just won’t cut it in our University.
Here’s the disconnect – the “standards” that Garcia met were not “high” standards – they were a minimum level that the NCAA has set as the lowest possible level for admissions. Many NCAA schools choose to enforce higher standards than the NCAA minimums – Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame, etc. The standards that Garcia met were significantly less than what a non athlete student would have to meet when transferring from a JC.
And as I pointed out earlier in the thread, the admissions committee that rejected Garcia is the same body that approves and rejects all students at the UW. When I applied to the UW, there was no “minimum standards” to meet – you simply put in your application and hoped that your academic resume was deemed good enough. In my case, they approved. To suggest that this process is somehow unfair is ridiculous – it’s how every student is admitted to the University, and it’s how it works at most institutions of higher education.
And this has NOTHING to do with UW high standards.
You’re right – it might indeed have been a cover to allow Garcia to follow Dollar to SU.
by kirkd on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
D-Line not nearly as weak as the O-Line
I watched our D-Line (which, in the dawgs’ defense HAS looked much, much better in our last few games) absolutely throw your guys around without much resistance. Obviously you can’t expect Locker to do much when he doesn’t have much time.
by ArbyOSU on Nov 16, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gregory Christine
That was a big loss losing him to a broken leg. He played way better then I gave him credit for and it was said that he was a leader up front.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A good case in point
We really couldn’t afford to lose a single starter to injury this season because of depth. The losses of Glenn, Christine, Savannah, and Elisara have been very hard to fill.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I for one...
…took him for granted because he was a walkon. My bad!
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fetters on Christine
Fetters always felt he would earn a scholarship while he was here.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Leadership
I think he provided leadership upfront and really got those guys fired up. That was a huge loss. I’m trying to remember when he got hurt?
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Arizona
Glenn broke his leg against Notre Dame and Christine had an identical injury the next week if memory serves me correctly.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any information on what Scott Woodward recently said about the renovation of husky stadium? Thanks.
by lorenzothedog on Nov 16, 2009 6:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Round Two with the Legislature
Woodward is going back to the legislature for money when it reconvenes later this year.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was on the pregame show and said it will start I want to say 12/18 months or 24 months, but it’s definitely going to get done depending on when they get all the needed money.
by john_s on Nov 16, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it was...
…best case scenario after next season, worse case is after 2011 season. We need to get that done.
Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!
by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited about Burnett
and the recruiting class in general. The only remedy to our current situation is Sark and Co recruiting out of their minds, which they are doing right now. I’m looking forward to the Hawaii kids coming to town this month, Dawg commit Taz Stevenson is bringing along his buddies 4* OT named Micah Hatchie and a 3* DT named Lawrence Lagafuaina. I also read that VJ Fehoko, a 4* MLB that plays with a lotta fire could be visiting the same weekend. We want and need these guys!
by ChazzReinhold on Nov 16, 2009 8:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Burnett is a big time pick up
Donald Butler leaves a big hole to fill and this kid is capable of stepping up to fill it.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Get!
Nice having some good news after the debacle down in Corvalis. I think we need another defensive tackle and maybe another defensive end. Both lines need strong classes. This thing has to start from the trenches.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Both lines
need strong classes for a couple of years
by T9ODawg on Nov 16, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need full classes on the lines every year.
Notice how OSU was rotating ten DL against us?
We need to get to the same point as far as depth is concerned.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Preece
made the point in the pregame show that OSU rotated 10 D linemen during games
by T9ODawg on Nov 16, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huge Advantage when you can do that
That is what having the same competent staff on board for a decade can do for you.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Elisara/Christine
It’s obvious they’ve been hard to replace. We just don’t have the depth to absorb those losses.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DT
Looks like we will be bringing in a JC kid names Tonga and another kid from Hawaii at this point. i think we will be solid there.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
John, what are the chances that they get in? What are the odds for these kids from JC’s? They are kids who work hard and who deserve an equal chance as much as kids from high school, but not at UW it seems. What is the rerason? What is happening with the process for JC transfers? Some investigative reporting is needed here. Who makes these arbitrary decisions? Someone is making the final decision … who is it?
by thedesertdog on Nov 16, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonga is a qualifier...
Tonga has what he needs to get in.
The difference this season is we are going for kids who can get in for winter quarter. They won’t wait around till fall to see if a kid qualifies. They either gets in early or UW will pass.
Sark was hired after all the winter qualifiers were gone last season. They took some chances but were basically scraping the bottom of the bowl from a qualification standpoint.
If a JC is going to meaningfully compete to start in 2010 they have to be here for winter conditioning and spring ball. If they aren’t they will be little use for the team next fall.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a bit...
…disappointing that most of the JC guys we recruited didn’t make it in but that has been a common theme lately. What is the overriding factor, gpa or ?
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s keep in mind that many of these JC kids are there because they didn’t qualify out of H.S., i.e. they weren’t very serious about academics. Many of these kids take the easiest path to getting their AA degree, and that usually includes a lot of PE credits.
Since the UW doesn’t have a PE major, there’s only so many PE credits they can take as transfer credits, and that’s often what trips up JC kids hoping to gain admission to the UW.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
…was it GPA then? If in fact the kid “qualified” but was denied based on something…well what was it?
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t have enough transferable credits. As I was trying to explain, because the UW doesn’t have a PE major, there’s only so many PE credits they can take from a JC applicant. Since most schools have a PE major, it’s not a problem at most schools. As a result, kids that want to qualify at the UW out of a JC have to take more and/or more difficult classes at their JC.
It’s not always about PE credits – sometimes a “regular” class gets flagged by the UW because they question the class and whether it’s equivalent to something they offer.
In the case of Charles Garcia (the basketball recruit that ended up at Seattle U), the story is that he met the bare minimum standards but the admissions board still rejected him because they felt his academic resume wasn’t strong enough and he wasn’t likely to make it academically at the UW.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
…that makes things clearer. I think when you have a super talented athlete sometimes your hoping they can get some classes done down the stretch to get qualified. It’s just frustrating for the fans who think that if a kid commits and signs he’s going to be on the team.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 17, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Positives
I was listening to Hugh Millen after the game and I love listening to someone who has such a tremendous knowledge of the game. He talked about how on one play the protection was designed to slant to the right, Chris Polk was supposed to fill the gap to the left, instead he flowed right also. It caused a breakdown of the play. It was 3rd and like 5 at the time. His point being that this is the FIRST year of the system. He said that is the kind of thing that will be done right next year and those types of things can have a huge impact.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It only takes one kid blowing an assignement to blow a play
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hawaii
With all the ties we have to Hawaii, I would think that would be a very productive recruiting area for us. We’ve got Tui back on the staff and he has a HUGE family in the Seattle area. Not to mention all of the other Polynesian athletes on the roster.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look for this staff to always recruit Hawaii well
I think they will get 3-4 more players out of the islands this year to help fill out the class.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Defensive Tackle
I hope they get that big kid that’s visiting for the Apple Cup.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be the one...
they are also looking at a couple of others as well.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Three DL from the Islands
Sealli Epenasa
Lawrence Lagufuina
Sani Fuimaono
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 9:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
the offensive line needs help
even with another winter of conditioning i can’t see the existing group improving to a top of the pac line.
with jake coming back everything is in place to have a dominant offense.
as much as i would like to redshirt all o-linemen i think kohler and porter will be in the mix next year.
by PandG on Nov 16, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
i say usc in vegas bowl vs utah utes
should be good game. utah beat usc in pete carroll’s first or second year as coach at usc, 10-6 in the same bowl.
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 16, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SC would kill Utah
I wouldn’t write off the Trojans or discount the overall strength of the Pac 10 this year. It is a very tough league.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 16, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
USC
Do you guys remember when I mentioned USC could potentially lose 4 games this season. I was laughed at on this blog. Look who’s laughing now :)
The 4th loss could be Ucla- rivalry games are always tough and this USC team looks awfully vunerable.
All I saw was purple
by crazidawg on Nov 16, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You called that?
I don’t remember a lot of these preseason predictions but if you called it Crazi well…way to go CarnacDAWG!
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so you guys think the fanpost i wrote was an attack on the pac-ten it was not.
yes tcu destroyed utah. every team gets destroyed every once in awhile.even usc got destroyed two weeks in a row. utah has still has won 22 of 24 games. they still have an eight game bowl win streak. the longest in the nation. they will beat sdsu by 24 points then beat byu to go 10-2. that lands them in vegas bowl. usc either has to lose to arizona or ucla to end up fifth. i say it happens. to say usc would crush utah is laughable. usc would be unmotivated. utah would be very motivated. 50% of the battle. utah won the last time there were in the vegas bowl 10 -6. utah would win this game 24 -17. utah would probably be giving usc 3 points to. the pac-ten is strong except wazzou. why you keep defending usc is amazing to me. there days of being top dog and bully on the block are over. even jim harbaugh went for a two point conversion when they were up by 4 td’s. when arizona plays them you think mike stoops brother of bob stoops who coaches the okie sooners will tell little brother to run up score since we all know usc beat okie 55-19. peace.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2009 4:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect....
Utah does not have the depth and talent that USC does.
USC has one off year because of injuries and some inexperience and people ring the bells and say the dynasty is over. When you keep bringing in top 10 recruiting classes you are always going to be good under Pete Carroll.
by John Berkowitz on Nov 17, 2009 5:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
talent does not mean you win bowl games motivation does and utah has it and usc does
not. utah has injuries too. read the response to my fanpost that got quite a few huskie fans of which i’m one of a little riled up. i only said for three years they won’t win the pac ten title. plus there is a thing i call having too much talent. emanuel moody transfered to the florida gators b/c he did not think he could show case his abilities to his personal best at usc so he went to florida. good decison b/c he is scoring td’s there. usc will always be a pro football factory but that does not make them a great college team. i can’t believe after matt barkley two pathetic games vs asu and stanford does not convince you of this. we are 10 gaems into the season and he is regressing. he is not the one. p.c is going to have to find a mobile qb. case closed.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if...
….you can assume that much…motivation does and utah has it and usc does not Matt Barkley is a freshman, I hate to be defending usc but that kid is going get better and better.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 17, 2009 7:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll say this one more time. we are at the 10 game's in the season point
matt barkley’s last two games stat wise are pathetic. plus he led the team to two beatdowns. he should be improving. he is regressing. that is a bad sign. i say they lose to either arizona or ucla who needs a sixth victory to get to bowl game. that way usc finishes fifth. fifth place team goes to vegas bowl in pac-ten where utah will have the better game plan and motivation b/c they have pride in an eight game bowl winning streak. if they get it to nine only fsu would have had more. usc at 8-4 will just show up and when utah jumps on them fast they will throw in the towel. count on it. i will bet on it too. peace.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
to beatdowns from oregon and stanford
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
USC
is young and has a lot of injuries. If Sanchez came back for his senior year they’d probably be undefeated. USC will be back on top next year because, like John pointed out, they keep bringing in Top 10 classes.
by Snostrebla on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it laughable that you are making such proclamations about a true freshman QB. Stop and think about that for a second – true freshmen rarely start at the college level, yet here is a kid doing so at one of, if not the premier college football programs in the country.
He’s had two bad games in a row – OK, true. Please point out to me a QB that hasn’t? Please point out to me a true freshman QB that hasn’t? And even with those two bad games, he’s still having a season that ranks in the upper half of all QB’s so far this season.
If the kid gets halfway decent coaching at USC, he should end up as one of the best QB’s in the game.
by kirkd on Nov 17, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Smith - Centennial HS
Scout has a feature on Kevin Smith with some vids. Kid looks real good and that UW is the leader.
by john_s on Nov 16, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope the "word on street" is true
cuz Smith is a dang good ball player and would be an awesome addition to an already awesome class. Get ’em coach ’Mit!
by ChazzReinhold on Nov 16, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where in the world!...
…are these guys coming from! I mean you don’t really hear about a kid and the next thing you know they appear on the scene out of nowhere!? Granted I don’t follow recruiting like I’m sure some of you guys do but sheesh it just amazes me that these kids seem to all of a sudden just appear!
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 16, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the kid was into basketball and only recently started giving football a try.
by kirkd on Nov 16, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sark and Company
That is a big strength of this staff, recruiting and really knowing the hotbed that is Southern California.
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by dawgfan22 on Nov 17, 2009 7:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sark is a master of finding the diamonds in the rough. Since he’s been here he’s found 2 or 3 guys early that ended up blowing up in recruiting (Tevin Carter is an example) and I expect that that trend will continue. We really want Smith by the way. Kid is gonna be a star
by ChazzReinhold on Nov 17, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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