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Picking the Pac - Week Six

USC has the week off to prepare for their annual encounter with Notre Dame. California gets a much-needed bye week to nurse their wounds after two straight losses.

Oregon at UCLA

The Ducks head on the road with hopes that this will not be their last trip to Pasadena this season. The 13th-ranked Ducks have been on a two-week roll that has opened the eyes of Western football fans. After starting the season with a loss at Boise then winning two lackluster games against Purdue, and Utah, the Ducks crushed California and Washington State in nasty fashion. The Bruins knocked of Tennessee early in the season and were undefeated until they were upended last week at Stanford. We know a couple of things about the Bruins:  a) they play solid defense,  and b) their offense is challenged. The Ducks will give up some points here and there, but the offense is hitting on all cylinders. The Bruins don't have enough firepower to keep up unless Oregon starts self destructing. They have neen known to do that. Can the Ducks perform as well on the road as they did at home?

Update

Jeremiah Masoli missed practice with a knee injury Tuesday and The Eugene Register-Guard reported it's likely Nate Costa will start against the Bruins, who are expected to get confirmation today that Kevin Prince is ready to go after missing two games with a broken jaw. Rumors are Masoli could be out for the season with a torn ACL but that has not been confirmed. The Ducks are also missing their two starting CB's, Willie Glasper and Walter Thurmond, who are both out for the season.

Oregon is decidedly beat up going into this one. I originally had the margin of victory at 14 points. I am still going with the Ducks, but now believe this game will go down to the last series of the fourth quarter. Costa is a good-looking kid, but no way he picks up at the same level as Masoli.

The corner situation at Oregon isn't good. It would give a good passing team something serious to work with on Saturday. I am not sure that UCLA can take advantage of that even if Kevin Prince returns. I do know that the UCLA defense is capable of slowing the Duck offense down. I have to go with a nail-biter...but Oregon pulls it out.

Oregon by 3

Arizona State at Washington State

The Sun Devils were humbled at home by Oregon State last week. The Devil offense couldn't get anything going against what may be one of the most porous defenses in the Pac 10 so far this season. This week they get to play a team that even has a worse defense...the WSU Cougars, who are coming off a butt-stomping in Eugene. If WSU is going to beat somebody in the conference this season, ASU may be their best shot. That being said, on paper this one isn't even close. ASU's defense will shut down the meager Cougar offense. ASU should be able to put 24 on the board in this one and that should be more than enough.

ASU by 21

Stanford at Oregon State

This is going to be a pretty interesting game. Playing on the road isn't easy and Stanford is going to be tested. I like the match-ups; Stanford likes to run the ball and tries to keep the passing to a minimum. This plays into the hands of the Beavers, who can't stop the pass. Oregon State has been inconsistent and mistake prone on offense, but  can hardly be called one-dimensional.

The Beavers have a lot of tools to attack the Stanford defense, but the Cardinal have proven resilient on offense. I believe this one will be pretty close,but in the end the strength of the Stanford lines will wear down the Beavers.

The Beavers beat themselves with inconsistent play and turnovers on offense against Arizona. They rebounded nicely in the desert. Overall I don't think the Beavs have the horses to contain Toby Gerhart.

Stanford by 3

Arizona at Washington

The odds makers opened this one up as a pick-em game. The line though has slowly swung in Arizona's favor because of a few factors:  the betting men believe it will be tough for Washington to recover emotionally from the Notre Dame loss. They are also factoring in the injuries, bumps and bruises that Washington suffered in last week, which includes having lost at least half of their starting secondary in Justin Glenn and--as of today--Nate Williams.

Arizona is coming off a much-needed bye week. The Oregon State victory yielded more than the average amount of bumps and bruises. TB Nic Grigsby is scheduled to play this Saturday, but  definitely won't be at 100% with a bruised shoulder. The third down and red zone offense of UA took a hit with the loss of TE Rob Gronkowski. QB Nick Foles was impressive in his first start at Corvallis, but duplicating that effort in noisy Husky Stadium may prove difficult.

This is a big game for both schools. If Arizona wins they are headed for the first division and a likely bowl game. Washington--on the other hand--needs to win this game to stay in striking distance of a bowl bid and even their record at 3-3 , a good accomplishment at the half-season mark taking into account the brutal schedule they have faced.

At this point, I have to take Washington due to the home field advantage, Jake Locker, and Chris Polk.  Polk has proven he can get his yards against any defense. Jake is the best QB in the Pac 10 and possibly the best player in the league. He can make plays and when he is at home with the crowd behind him and he can take over a game. Sprinkle is some crowd noise from a well lubricated evening crowd  at Husky Stadium and the chances are good for a win.

Defensively the Huskies play better at home. The crowd is a factor which can rattle even the nations best offenses and is always good for a few opposition mistakes. It is going to be a close one but I am going with the Huskies.

Washington by 3

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agree with all your picks except for margin of loss/victory

I believe ducks will hammer UCLA. FFurd/Beavs game is the most interesting. I am worried about us against Zona, but like you said, feel the tipping pointis still JL and Polk. Our D and Zona’s D do concern me. I don’t think the Offense by Zona will match us point for point. Establish the run, deny their run, and hope our pass rush improves greatly. Get some lanes for Polk and Jake to run and create.

by prrbrr on Oct 8, 2009 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Hammer

I had the Ducks by 14 at the start of the week and dropped it to three. UCLA’s defense is pretty good. Costa isn’t going to pick up at the same level Masoli was at. Factor in the home field advantage…I would have this one on upset alert…don’t forget that Rick is one of the better game day coaches on the nation.

I think OSU can take Furd….however they are turnover prone and you can’t do that and beat the Card’s.

We need to beat Arizona at home…this is a must win if we are going to get anywhere this season.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 8, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree John

We have to win our home games if we want a possible bowl. Zona has a lot of speed. I see this one as pretty even. With us being home I give the nod to us but we better bring our “A” game. Stop their running game and we can win pretty easy but if they put up 150+ yards on the ground it’s going to be tough.

by Snostrebla on Oct 8, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Game

We are about at the mid season point and I haven’t seen Washington bring anything but great effort so far this season. It is really refreshing to watch. I think the last two road games have been a huge learning experience for this team. I think we have seen them grow and get better each week which is the hallmark of a well coached squad. I expect victory this weekend.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 8, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Duck fan edit

It’s Nate, not nick, Costa. Their vs. They’re vs. There. Learn the difference embrace it.

Anyway…

As a duck fan, I’m not concerned about the CB situation. The most likely backup to Glasper is Anthony Gildon, a borderline 5-star heavily recruited by USC, Michigan, and Miami among others.

by Nevaduck on Oct 8, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Quack at you.. : )

That snippet was actually copied and pasted from elsewhere so there are a lot of people out there making the same mistake. Could there have been a Nick Costa who played at Arizona in the past who was actually from Oregon?

I do appreciate the they’re lesson though and will seriously embrace it. Our readers are pretty much my editors.

I have to agree the Ducks have depth at the skill positions. I do remember when we played them last year it didn’t really matter if you ran the waterboy out there at QB…the result would have been the same.

Nice to see so many Duck fans regularly stop by.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 8, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon vs. UCLA

I’d be concerned about the CB situation AND the QB situation. Although I haven’t been impressed with Masoli’s passing abilities, losing him as a running threat could really help UCLA focus on the runningbacks and slowing down the running game.

As much as I hate to say it, I expect Slick Rick to pull this one out with his defense and quickly remind Oregon that they only have a good record because they’ve have had a weak schedule.

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by Lear Pilot on Oct 8, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll let the schedule comment go cause I don't want to go down that rabbit hole again...but

actually Masoli has been passing really well lately. Last 6 quarters (mind you he only played 2 quarters versus WSU) he is 35-43 with 5 TD’s and no INT’s. The offense has really changed in the passing game the last couple of games and was really starting to show improvement.

Costa is not AS big a threat to run, but he can get the job done. He’s no Masoli or Locker by comparison, but then again, he’s not a stiff back there either. I expect the game plan to change very little between Masoli and Costa. Personally I hope NewWeasel stacks the box and let’s our TE’s and WR run free, that plays into Costa’s greater strength.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Costa used to be quite the runner right, before the 3 knee surgeries?

There are a lot of things that make this game interesting to me:

- Neuheisel had a knack for beating Oregon while at UW, but then again he could tap into the natural rivalry, and I think he had more developed talent at the UW (or at least more balanced);
- Oregon’s injuries – Costa was hyped coming into last year, but he hasn’t played in a long, long time and who knows how much the surgeries have taken out of him; and how well can Oregon’s defense absorb the losses of Thurmond and Glasper;
- UCLA’s QB situation – is Prince really ready to return, and even if he is, he’s still a RS-Fr; can he and UCLA take advantage of the CB situation with Oregon?
- UCLA would appear to have a good enough defense to potentially slow down Oregon’s offense, especially if Costa is rusty;
- But is UCLA’s offense good enough to get much going against a much better than expected Duck defense?

I’d give Oregon a comfortable edge if they were at Autzen, but with the game in LA, I think the Bruins have a decent shot. I still give Oregon the edge, but nothing would really surprise me in this one.

by kirkd on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Costa was a decent runner until the 3 surgeries..you are right

and watching him play the last couple of weeks, he still is able to make god reads on the zone read, but he definitely doesn’t have any real explosion. Like I said, he’s serviceable (not a stiff) on the perimeter, but he’s not going to out run or juke too many people.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think that they wouldn’t run Costa much just to protect his health. Any more word on Masoli’s injury?

by John Berkowitz on Oct 8, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dissappointed about God's reads

I was hoping it was nevadaduck, instead of Matt, that made the good mistake and I could explain the difference and have him embrace it.

by dawgdude on Oct 8, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is Ok…I am open to taking editing advise from fans of other schools.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 8, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't you know Oregon's offense is god

hehe, just kidding. Masoli has practiced the last two days (light practices only) he has an apparent “burise” on the inside of his knee, no tears. They are saying he is going to be second team “emergency back-up” for Costa. I think they really don’t want to burn Thomas’ redshirt this year.

Chip is playing it pretty close to the vest on this one, but I think with the bye week next week, Masoli will most likely sit out this game.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right.

Their passing game has been improved lately, but like sundodger mentions below, it’s only because every pass play is within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. I give Kelly credit for realizing that the down field passing game wasn’t working, and probably wasn’t going to work. Having seen Masoli in most every game so far this year, I think it’s pretty safe to say he has no future in the NFL as a QB.

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by Lear Pilot on Oct 8, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree..NO chance to play QB in the NFL

Masoli is built more to play QB in college…and specifically the spread game in college. The short passing game has definitely added to his efficiencies. I also think the O-line improvement cannot be overlooked too. There are a lot of highly rated recruits on that O-line and they needed time to learn to play together (as Bix talks about below) and experience during the games.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Oregon's depth

There’s a big difference in being a highly rated recruit/good practice player and being a starter with Pac 10 experience- no matter the position on a team. So, depth? Yeah, Oregon has a number of good players on their team. But experience at 2- and 3- deep? Nope, not buying it.

Here’s the thing- Boise State owned both lines of scrimmage. What did Coach Kelly do, as good coaches are apt to do? He quickened the pace and cadence of his plays. He didn’t change the playbook or “open” it up, as it were. He forced his QB and skill position players to speed up their reads, routes, and runs and he challenged both his O and D lines to NOT get “bitched” again for the remainder of the season. Tell you what- if any of the Duck’s future opponents make it a point to manhandle the Duck O and D lineman or if (God forbid) any of the current Duck starters get injured and are unable to play- I don’t see how QB’s Macaroni or NICK can keep the Oregon spread to run as effectively and efficiently as they’ve recently been able to do. Let’s face it, both Oregon and ‘SC exposed Cal’s O and D lines. Masoli (sorry about the Macaroni thing. not really) has been on fire, or lucky, or both. He’s been able to decide the proper read, find the open man, and keep Kelly’s juggernaut of a spread thriving. Patient and disciplined defenses can and will disrupt the Kelly spread, physical and unrelenting QB pressure will bring any Oregon QB back down to earth and make them question their reads/options. Heavy line turnover/rotations due to exhaustion and output is the bane of any spread offense on any given Saturday.

I like fUcla’s chances. Price, that Reggie LB-dude, Verner (DB) and Moore (DB) are the for really real-deal as defenseman here in the Pac 10. And Autzen is a hell-hole with retarded home-field advantages. Let’s see what Kelly and his boys can do in away games? (right, we already did. . . .see Boise State)

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by BixBeiderbecke on Oct 8, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd disagree on only one thing...

Kelly has changed the passing game a fair amount.

Massoli has a great completion percentage mostly because every pass he’s thrown the last two games has been within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Virtually nothing down field whatsoever.

A team that can collapse Oregon’s o-line without blitzing, and stop that little bubble screen, will force to make Massoli do the things he’s failed at so far this season, or will render the Ducks one-dimensional.

by Sundodger on Oct 8, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting Bix...

…I think playing away could be a huge factor. Oregon laid an egg at Boise on the road and if I’m not mistaken this is their second road game. QB play is a huge factor and changing QBs can make a team play very differently. I just remember how bad we were last year without Jake and how bad Oregon was when Dixon went down.

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's if you have a huge drop off between QB 1 and 2

Costa was supposed to be the starter the last 2 years. He’ll be fine, maybe a little too hyped, but eventually he’ll settle down and do fine.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad Duck fan is not worried about the CB situation

… because it is looking pretty bad from where I’m sitting. If Gildon was that good (Scout has him as a 3-star), he’d be in the lineup. I’m sure he has all the tools, but there is a lot to learn at a position like that.

As for the picks, this is the Ducks first road game since Boise St. I’m going with the upset. UCLA wins the TO margin by a +2 difference and wins by 13.

I also think Stanford is going to get their arse handed to them by OSU. Call it a hunch.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 8, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Actually this Duck fan is concerned about the CB position...just not against UCLA

UCLA has shown little ability to move the ball consistantly on O. There D is scary because they have some serious playmakers on that side of the ball. On O though, they are young, inexperienced and still trying to figure out all their timing. I expect a much closer game (so does Vegas, as soon as Masoli was seen as not starting, the line went from Oregon by 6 to Oregon by 3).

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 8, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crowd noise concerns me

We haven’t sold very many tickets for this game yet and the past several years we haven’t really brought any noise to the table for OSU, Stanford, and the Zona teams. If the crowd is going to be a factor everyone needs to be into the game. Late starts actually seem to hurt our attendance as a lot of the longtime fans don’t like to be in the stands at 10:30PM when it’s less than 50 degrees out and windy.

by JoeinFW on Oct 8, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

This Blue Hair

will be bringing the noise from Sec 44

by T9ODawg on Oct 8, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m in 44 as well. Row OO.

by NeuroDawg on Oct 8, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

HH or II

I don’t remember off the top of my head…seats 5 & 6

by T9ODawg on Oct 8, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sec 45

3 blue hairs and 1 daughter of a friend. We will be screaming at the appropriate time, and not while the television gut is on the field, have to save my voice for our bowl game.orr

by prrbrr on Oct 8, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bring the NOISE!!!!

We’ll be making noise in Section 22!

Can’t wait for this game, it will really tell us a lot about this staff and team, definitely a must win if we expect to see 5-6 wins this year.

GO DAWGS!!!

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by Lear Pilot on Oct 8, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was last year...

…I was impressed with the noise against LSU and U$C. I didn’t go to the Idaho game.

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was impressed with the noise at the USC game as well. Particularly since the attendance was only ~60K.

As I stated in another thread, the USC band leader told a friend it was louder at Husky Stadium than it had been the previous week at tOSU.

by NeuroDawg on Oct 8, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the fact...

…that we were playing in big games and were actually IN THE HUNT for a win made the difference. If we do that, the crowd noise will be there. This is supposed to be another close game and I think that makes it even more critical for the crowd to get into it. GO DAWGS!!

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Games

LSU and USC are the games I was referencing.

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Section 13

We holler at the top of our lungs from the closed end. No need to save anything for Sunday. Just go to church, and/or watch NFL games in silence. Bye Monday we all have our voices back.

Got a very good feeling about this Zona game. After what we have been through (I was sickened at the Notre Dame game, TD Jesus got nothin’ to do with all the bad calls and tacky hometown behavior) it would seem to me that we fans and players are going to be more focused than ever on giving our very best as we win this game at home.

by Go Viks! on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Libations

Shouldn’t be any lack of those being it’s a night game! I wonder what the weather is going to be like?

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lost my voice after the LSU and USC games.

I really felt bad for the Air Traffic Controls that had to listen to me on the radio, lucky for them I have most of next week off to let my voice come back from the Arizona game.

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"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"

by Lear Pilot on Oct 8, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

JC Visitors For Saturday

Apparently two on tap. A big defensive tackle, Matangi Tonga and a big offensive lineman, Ryan Clanton.

by doubledeucedawg on Oct 8, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Academically

They both seem to be able to graduate in Decoember which is good. They also both have good grades. If there is a problem it will have to do with the actual types of credits they have. UW and UCLA are very hard to get into if you are a JC kid.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 9, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

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