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I just want to thank all our readers and posters for their adult reactions to Saturday's loss. It was an emotional loss for the team and the fan base. When that happens sometime emotions can boil over. We sometimes look for scapegoats when we lose. It is the natural thing to do when we are upset. Not a single poster on this board dumped on the players or the coaches. I think that is fantastic. I was away from the board over the weekend and when I returned there wasn't a single post I had to delete because of over reaction or poor taste. All of you guys get it and are fantastic people.

Over at Dawgman there was a post that simply offended me. The same guy (Passion) posted last week that the reason we lost to Stanford was because we were simply outcoached. He has a history of over-reaction. If you are going to write stuff like this you need to have the guts to put your real name behind it rather than hide behind an anonymous moniker. To me it is simply gutless.

Sark better learn from his BONEHEAD performance. 

How many FRIGGIN times does notre dame have to stuff our a$$e$ on the goal line before the coach says: "Hmmm...we have the most athletic QB in America, maybe we should do a sprint out with a run/pass option." 

HOW MANY TIMES, SARKISIAN?!

And then you go for it on the goal line when a field goal gives you an 8-point lead?????  After they stuffed us the previous play?!?!

Hang this one on this rookie coach who clearly is learning on the job, and doesn't have the savvy to know what friggin plays to call in the right situation.

YOUR FAULT, SARKISIAN!!!  NICE FRIGGIN' CHOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two years ago when a couple of fans started the "Fire Ty Willingham" site I criticized them for not using their real names. The logic was simple. If you are asking for someones head and threatening their job you should have the guts to post with your real name and address.

They fired back that I wasn't posting under my real name either. Since that day I have only posted under my real name. Those guys never got around to doing that. If you really want to really rip somebodies ass you should have the courage to let people know exactly who you are and where you live.

The above type of post is exactly why we started the UW Dawg Pound. We are going to criticize things now and then but we are going to back it up with an honest review and no name calling.

Am I critical of some of the calls made on the goal line drive? Of course I am because second guessing what didn't work is pretty easy. My feeling is despite the poor officiating calls and missed opportunities we still had more than an ample chance to put this game away. Those type of things happen on the road and you have to overcome it. We didn't and you have to give the Notre Dame defense credit.

I am really proud of the way our team is playing this year and in particular last week. I may not agree with every play call but our young coaching staff has taken an 0-12 team and put them in a position to compete and beat any team they play. That is a remarkable accomplishment to put together with less than a full deck in their first season.

I am really proud to be a Husky fan and I am even more proud of the collection of mature readers and posters we have assembled on this site. You guys are all champs in my book! Things are turning around. They are going to completely turn around quicker than any of us would have imagined. It is really important that we support this first team and give them all the love they deserve. It is really easy to love an undefeated team. Love this team because our kids and coaches have the hearts of champions.

The championships will eventually come. The true joy comes from supporting the team as they fight through the adversity it takes to get to the next level. Enjoy the ride because we are going to the top.

Go Dawgs.

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I almost never post on Husky message boards after a game, and find myself regretting looking at them right after a game if it’s a loss. I’d rather let things settle for a day and take a little time for reflection and letting the emotions cool off some.

There are many out there who let their emotions get the best of them and say dumb things in the heat of the moment. Some of them are capable of regaining some rationality after some time has passed and admit their impulsiveness; others are stubborn and admit no fault.

I’m glad this community has very little of that, and I hope that continues.

I appreciate the Dawgman boards for the variety of opinions found there, and on the Premium boards there is still enough insight and valuable opinions to make it worthwhile – you just have to be willing to work around the irrational posters that still populate the place.

I do like the newly positive Race Bannon though – perhaps Sark will win enough in his time here for Race to let go of his over the top distrust of Emmert & Woodward.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I love the Dawgman Boards

You find a lot of great stuff there. I have been a huge supporter of Dawgman since day one. I just didn’t like the post from this individual this week and the one after last weeks game.

I have always liked Race….even when he has been overly critical…he takes the time to explain where he is coming from in detail. I can respect that even if i don’t agree.

Simply calling names and venting is a bunch of BS.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 5, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simply calling names and venting is a bunch of BS.

Totally agree.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was so ticked after the game

I didn’t know what to say and the things that came to mind shouldn’t be put out there.

We did get jobbed by the refs but Sark had plenty of chances to do something other than go Lambo at the goal line.

Some of Passion’s posts live up to his screen name and this one was over the top.

I can’t wait for Race to get back to the Duckfighter pieces.

Dawgman used to be the first Husky site I visited every morning….the Dawg Pound has taken over that spot.

Jack

by T9ODawg on Oct 5, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t wait for Race to get back to the Duckfighter pieces.

He’s doing them on the Husky Half Brains site. Fair warning though – since it’s his and iDawg’s site, they don’t censor themselves…

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idawg

always brings good stuff to the table

by T9ODawg on Oct 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I generally agree, but I stopped listening to their podcasts after hearing a few too many times of them patting themselves on the back for “never being wrong” – just rubs me the wrong way. And the frequency both of them love to insert their criticism of Emmert & Woodward into other discussions got old for me, which is why I appreciate the fact that since the season has started, Race has pretty much stopped doing that and is now frequently one of the most reasonable posters over there.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Half Brains

That site isn’t for the faint of heart but I find it interesting.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 5, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That site isn’t for the faint of heart…

Heh, very true. You can count on them never holding anything back, that’s for sure!

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish you had made the trip Jack

It was more shock and disbelief in the stands than anger. It was similar to the 12 man Michigan loss. We had the Irish and let them off the hook. You are geoing to get some home cooking on the road…however we had ample chances to make up for it….one thing I like about Sark is he isn’t a cry baby.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We already had Tempe circled for our away game this year

and, frankly, I wasn’t expecting to see the level of play that we are seeing from the team so a trip to South Bend wasn’t on my mind. Preseason, I expected a beat down by ND.

The wife has a high school friend living in Sun City and her last uncle lives near Tucson, he’s 80 and starting to fail so we want to see him while he’s still lucid, etc.

We’ll be making an annual trip to AZ for football and family until things change.

If they get to a bowl game we’ll be there.

by T9ODawg on Oct 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dawg Pound

I completely agree. I rarely go to dawgman as it is filled with so much venom sometimes. Good times are in the horizon. Let’s all enjoy the ride and appreciate what has been a great ride so far this season.

by Fighting Husky on Oct 5, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I rarely go to dawgman as it is filled with so much venom sometimes.

An unfortunate legacy of Ty – even in the last days of Lambo or when Neuheisel got fired, I didn’t see as much division within the ranks.

Hopefully Sark is the right guy and wins will return, and the Husky Nation can begin to heal those wounds and come together. It will be a long process though – some were incredibly bitter about the whole Ty episode, with some justification IMO.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Dawgman is excellent

There are a few bitter remaining posters but they are getting weeded out. One thing I do like is they have the guts to let somebody hang themselves with their own rope.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 5, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still have

a few guys on ignore on Dawgtales.

Maybe as Sark wins them over I will switch except for the guys with the attitude “If you didn’t play at this level you have no right to comment”. There are still a couple of those over there.

I’ll never give up Dawgman and I like all the guys and gals (Moni) involved with Dawgman.

by T9ODawg on Oct 5, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

cop out.

this has nothing to do with Ty. Every fan base has irrational zelots. The UW’s hang out at Dawgman. Case in point, the ripping of Sark cited by JB.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 5, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true. I’ve been on those boards since ‘98, and I saw the tone change significantly during the course of Ty’s stint as people took sides about whether Ty should be the coach. The fractures that occurred as a result of that debate will take a long time to heal.

Are there irrational posters on the Dawgman.com boards? Of course. That’s because it’s the most popular Husky site, and when you get large numbers combined with passionate fans, you are going to get some crazies. And because Dave, Kim and Chris believed in not censoring discussion, they rarely suspended or banned posters. That has changed a bit in the last couple of years as the debate over Ty reached a crescendo and the rhetoric got ultra-toxic.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't single out Dawgman...this isn't a Dawgman problem...

To be precise this person just happened to be a poster over there. It doesn’t reflect the views of the management of Dawgman, or Dawgman posters in general. I have seen the same over at Condotta’s blog and over at Brand X.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never give up

Dawgman is the pulse of the Husky Nation…this post is simply part of the pulse.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 5, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Dawgman is fine for the zealots ...

… but it is hardly the pulse of Husky Nation.

The truth is that it is completely intolerable. There is no room for rationalization over there. The hosts/moderators are great, but the boards are overrun by bullies who lack the ability to point / counterpoint in a rational debate.

The pulse of husky nation can be found on BC’s blog, here and, formerly, on Nathan Ware’s blog.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Oct 5, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The truth is that it is completely intolerable. There is no room for rationalization over there. The hosts/moderators are great, but the boards are overrun by bullies who lack the ability to point / counterpoint in a rational debate.

There is plenty of good discussion that happens on the Premium boards there. Are there irrational posters that intrude? Sure, but it’s easy enough to block them out if you desire.

by kirkd on Oct 5, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were and are some bullies

Like Kirk says the last six years were tough over there and caused a lot of permanent divisions.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Post JB!

Enjoyed reading it.

Washington Husky Football-Undefeated 1991 National Champions 12-0!

by dawgfan22 on Oct 5, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Dawgman

   Scott, Kim & Chris do a great job. I pretty much stick to recruiting and the occational AANDY post.
   John you do an outstanding job here and I really appreciate it. This is a “must stop” any time I get on a computer.

GO DAWGS!!!
-Aaron

by Snostrebla on Oct 5, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

remember when

we expected the worst and got it. Now there is much excitement in the air and a great attitude among Husky players and fans. Give this coaching staff and team two or three years and we will wonder if it wasn’t all a bad dream, 0-12. Believing is a sure way to achieve your goals.
Go Sark and the Huskies you made my retirement exciting again, win or lose.

by Purpledawg on Oct 5, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the only site I take the time to read comments on

….and the knowledgeable community combined with the mature and insightful posts are exactly why I haven’t given up on comments here as well.

However, in reading some of your thoughts on the dawgman boards I might begin to revisit them as well.

Thanks for all the hard work John. And thanks to you more active commenters too.

by Bamer_ on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

First time

First time poster, long time reader. This and Bob’s blog are the only Husky blogs I read on a daily basis. Thanks for all the hard work John.

by Audio Junky on Oct 5, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

John, Thanks for the positive outlet

…for our Husky Pride! And I think everyone here appreciates the positive direction the Huskies program has taken. We all just need to make an honest effort to be the best Huskies we can be and we`ll be an elite program sooner rather than later.

by 206 on Oct 5, 2009 10:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I want to reiterate...

I want to reiterate that I am not calling out Dawgman at all. I love Dawgman. We aren’t competing with Dawgman. We just provide a different format for discussion that still in not censored 99.9% of the time. Most of the readers here are Dawgman readers and I encourage that. It is ground zero for accurate recruiting news,

I am just pointing to the example of one poster who continuously goes over the top who happened to post over there after the game. To me it was a real turnoff and I took offense at the remarks.

Finally I am pointing out that I appreciate everyone who posts and reads here who did not let their emotions get the best of them this past weekend. The readers and posters are the one’s who make this a special place to discuss Husky Football.

Thank you!

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 6:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks, Dad

Depression and a long, tired ride back from South Bend prevented me from blogging something I might regret. But I’ll take your pat on the back anyway.

Can’t say enough about the new and improved city of Chicago, and the people of Notre Dame. I’ve always been an ND hater, and It’s easy to despise them for their confounding Luck of the Irish. But they really know how to do things with style—the UW marketers could take a lesson. This was my first trip to South Bend, and I was very surprised at how friendly everyone was. Of course I’d like them even better if we hadn’t lost.

by Verge on Oct 6, 2009 6:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Notre Dame

It was my thrd trip to ND and the experience was similar every single time. Using the cabin really helped out with the fatiuge factor.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

My problem wasn’t so much with the goal line drive as it was the defense. They can stuff ND’s drive in the red zone, but not at the 50? C’mon, that’s not right. Stopping them from getting TDs is important, sure, but they shouldn’t have even gotten those FGs. The defense is better than that. That’s what frustrated me more than anything else – the whole game long.

Cassie
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning Blog. Calling shotgun in the clown car.

by Cassie McClellan on Oct 6, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Help is on the way

We have to play the hand we were dealt this year but some serious depth is on the way in the next recruiting class. People need to remember that this team is made up of players who went 0-12 last year. Tough loss but the improvement is remarkable.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

something for everyone

I like both dawgman and johnb’s blog. I will qualify it by saying I haunt 99% only the premium boards, as the free boards get some real nut cases. Ty IS to blame for the venom that started to really spew out in year 3. I think that is when many dawgman posters started to rant without thinking and also believe thats about when John started this blog for football talk and not the personal shredding you got if someone didn’t agree with your view. So congratulations again to you, johnb.
     Once you find the ignore button on Dawgman life is much better. Still have about half a dozen on that aid.
     Still can’t say enough about the college football experience at ND. I truly wish we could replicate that at Husky Stadium, sometimes even I get embarrassed by fellow huskies with their %#@ taunts at opposing fans, it is mixed company with kids environment. Of course, nothing as bad as at UO since 1997 or so or ASU, but still, wish we could be classier then drop kick their team on the field and act gracious.

by prrbrr on Oct 6, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Prrbrr

I wouldn’t say I didn’t agree with the view but the way that view was presented became unfair and vulgar. The minute Tyrone was hired a large number of people went ballistic and never let up. I think he deserved a couple of years to prove himself either way. In year three I took the gloves off to a certain extent and by the Arizona game wanted him gone. I really didn’t think he would last after the Hawaii debacle.

I did have some immediate doubts about Ty. I thought the first recruiting class was terrible and lacked effort. The second one that featured Locker had some serious local misses that raised eyebrows. His relationships with local HS coaches was strained to say the least. I never felt comfortable with the way the man approached recruiting, the media, boosters, fans, players, and PR in general.

All that being said I felt any coach deserves two years at the helm before the inevitable attack starts when things aren’t headed in the right direction. Criticism is fine. I just thought it was too soon and way out of hand. So we started this blog so we could filter through all the crap and concentrate on Husky Football in a more mature setting.

As for Husky Stadium I am not a huge fan of booing the opposition when they run onto the playing field. I have seen a lot worse at Oregon, Miami, Tennessee, and Ohio State. I think opposing teams and fans need to be treated as guests. Notre Dame gets that. Win or lose have some class. I think the Husky fans that made the trip were pretty classy.

As far as game day experience goes UW has made major strides this season. The Zone is a great idea and a huge plus. I like the way the team enters the stadium through the Zone walking between the lined up band members. That is a really nice touch.

Anyway back to the post we are talking about today. It was completely tasteless and lacked class. I doubt the poster would have had the guts to say that to Sarkisian in person or even by email using his real name and address. I think that is the general rule around here. Strong opinions are welcome. Make sure you lay out an intelligent case for that strong opinion.

The same thoughts about the play calling went through my mind too. I wondered why we didn’t spread it out more at the goal line to give Locker more options and give ND something to think about other than a sneak or a handoff up the middle. That is valid criticism. Sark even questioned himself on it. any good coach questions what doesn’t work.

Do I think the play calls were bad? Nope…just not executed well as a team.

Did I second guess the fourth down call at the goal line in the third quarter. Sure I did. I would have gone for the field goal because it would have made it a two score game. Do I fault the coach for going for it? Not really because if we had scored it would have been game over. Sark thought it was time to go for the jugglar. It is the coaches call and we need to be able to execute.

Calling the coach a choke artist and a bonehead in this situation is unacceptable.

It lacks class and intelligence.

by John Berkowitz on Oct 6, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

real class

NEBRASKA, beat them at home and they cheer you leaving the field. Booing etc., weak teams certainly shows a lack of class and is not needed at Husky stadium.

by Purpledawg on Oct 6, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

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