Oregon Preview
Oregon pops into Husky Stadium on Saturday to take on the University of Washington this Saturday. One thing that has improved in this series since the Pac 10 has gone to round robin play is Washington does not have to play the game in Eugene for what seems five years in a row. If you are a Husky fan you always wondered if that was some secret punishment that former President William Gerberding negotiated back in the early 1990's to further penalize the program.
Now that we are back to the home and away arrangement every single year the Ducks have to play in Seattle every other year and that changes the complexion of the series. It isn't easy to win in Husky Stadium no matter who you are. Some in the media are calling this a classic trap game for a number of reasons. The biggest reason is the game is played in Seattle.
Lots of folks besides yours truly are predicting a Washington victory. ESPN’s Ted Miller, college football guru Phil Steele, Yahoo! Sports blogger Holly Anderson, Vegas Insider Lee Sterling who is on the Softy Show, and San Jose Mercury News writer Jon Wilner see uncertainty at quarterback and USC looming on the horizon as a recipe for an Oregon loss
The Ducks and Huskies have met 101 times, dating to 1900. That first meeting was all Oregon to the tune of 43-0. Since then, UW has ruled the series, piling up 58 wins against 37 defeats (and five ties).
Along the way, the Huskies have assembled six winning streaks of five or more victories against Oregon. The Ducks, on the other hand, have had only one such stretch (five games) and they are currently riding it into Saturday’s contest at Husky Stadium.
With a win, UO would match the longest streak in series history at six games – a mark Washington has reached on three occasions (1908-14, 1955-60 and 1981-86).
As we have said all week Oregon is better on paper than Washington in most phases of the game and that just happens to be why the Ducks are 5-1 and undefeated in the conference so far this season. The Duck defense has been a surprise this year and simply outscoring the opponent to win in a track meet is no longer a prerequisite for an Oregon victory. The Ducks can beat anyone with their defense and special teams. In fact they relied on it during a five minute span in third quarter against UCLA to put the Bruins away.
Washington comes in 3-4 and even though that is not an intimidating record the Huskies could just as easily be 5-2 or even 6-1. A Washington team led by Jake Locker has the potential to derail the Oregon Rose Bowl hopes on Saturday and even among those not predicting a Duck victory there is a general consensus that the outcome of this game will be decided late in the fourth quarter.
Postion Matchups
Quarterback....Washington....As we say week in and week out Jake Locker is the best QB in the conference. The only other guy that is in the running for the honor may be UO QB Jeremiah Masoli. If Masoli does start for Oregon he will be hindered by wearing a knee brace and playing on a knee that is not 100%. Masoli's status for the game will be announced right before kickoff. If they decide to give him another week to get healthy for USC (A fair bet) Nate Costa will start. It will be the same offense but Costa wasn't exactly spectacular against UCLA. He isn't as dangerous as a healthy Masoli who rushed for 285 yards and 5 TD's before going down against WSU.
Running Back....Even...UW RB Chris Polk is still on track for 1000 yards this season but Oregon has gotten more production out of its running game this season. It is still a pretty close call and the defenses rather than the running backs will determine how many yards these guys pick up. LaMichael James is a perfect fit for the Oregon offense. He has racked up 601 yards on the season so far. He isn't as physical as Polk but he doesn't need to be with the misdirection the Oregon offense throws at opponents.
Wide Receivers....Washington...The trio of Devin Aguilar, Jermaine Kearse, and Jermaine Johnson have performed well all season. Jeff Maehl is Oregon's most productive WR coming into the game with 19 catches on the season. The Ducks prefer to go more by land than air this season. Washington has more depth at this position.
Tight End...Oregon....Kavario Middelton has had his moments this season but he can't match Ed Dickson at this point of his career. UW needs to keep an eye on mismatches with Dickson and UW CB's in the red zone. UW's red zone defense will be challenged by the Oregon TE. If Oregon wins this one expect Dickson to be a big reason. Dickson is Oregon's leading receiver with 25 catches for 333 yards and 4 TD's.
Offensive Line...Oregon....The Ducks have the edge here but UW's offensive line has been adequate enough most of the season to give Locker time to throw and Polk room to run. The key of course is how well UW's defensive line reacts to all the misdirection. Oregon needs to be able to run the ball to control the game.
Defensive Line...Even....Duck fans will scoff at this but UW's problems on defense have little to do with the defensive line. UW is often rushing 3-4 players against 5-6 blockers. When things equalize in the red zone these guys are very tough to run against. UW has been deceivingly tough against the run this year with Stanford being the exception. Oregon's defensive line is based on speed rather than size. The 3-4 lineup was very effective in shutting down the Cal running game.
Linebacker...Washington....The trio of Foster, Butler, and Savannah have played well all season. Butler has mumerous Pac Ten honors and was the national defensive player of the week when UW upset USC. Oregon doesn't have a bad group either so this is a pretty close call. The Husky offense will be tested by the Ducks defensive speed outside.
Secondary....Oregon....These groups are actually pretty close. The Ducks lost their two top CB's earlier this season and the new guys have never been tested by a QB and receiving corps like Washington will bring to the table on Saturday. Oregon has the advantage as far as depth is concerned and are more solid at safety. UW still misses Justin Glenn.
Special Teams....Oregon....UW has had two poor games in a row by special teams. The Ducks are coming off a win that was powered by special teams against UCLA. Oregon like Washington is very capable of making mistakes in this area. Both teams have made mistakes this season so this part of the game is up for grabs. Factor in the crowd noise at Husky Stadium and it tends to even things out but you cannot ignore the speed Oregon brings to the table.
"I thought it was a great week of work," UW coach Steve Sarkisian said after practice Thursday. "I’m sure there’s a lot of concern about how we would respond, and our guys have responded with probably our best week of practice yet. The mood – the tension – this week has reminded me much of the week heading into the Southern California game."
"There's no love lost (in it), that's the way to say it – for the fans more so than the respective teams," Neuheisel said. "The teams have respect for one another … but the fans, there's some raw animosity. "It's an open wound, I'll tell you that."
"I actually view it a little bit differently. I view it along the lines of (USC)-Notre Dame rivalry. It's a little different to where it's not crosstown, but it's very heated, a lot of emotions involved," Sarkisian said. "And it's one that the fans are very involved in. It's not just about the football programs but it's an overall university-wide rivalry, which is great. That's why college football is great. That's what makes it fun."
"I'm not diminishing the rivalry," Kelly said. "I'm just saying that every game for us is a national championship. So this week the national championship is Oregon vs. Washington."
"Once you've played in the Oregon-Washington game, you realize that no other game shares the same intensity," Sirmon said. "When you're at Husky Stadium or you see those purple jerseys running out of the Autzen tunnels, you can tell that it's not just a regular game."
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I think rating our DL even with Oregon’s is some pretty serious home cooking John. Not that it really matters much what we think…
by kirkd on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for accuracy.
I’m going to make sure Masoli sees this post. You just guaranteed a Duck win, John. Thanx.
I am sure that this is the difference maker the Ducks have been looking for.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to understand...
The game is never played on the message board or the newspaper….it is played out on the field.
What will happen will happen…the best prepared team will win the game on Saturday.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Could be the luckiest too!
We have seen that over the last three games we have played. Luck does happen to follow the home team.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
The Zebra's seem to side with home team
Of course unless it is UW.
We hate the zebras!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me give you more of my reasoning.
Alameda Ta’amu is really coming on right now. I really think he can be a big factor in the game teamed up with the speedier Thompson. Does Oregon have the equal of DTN? Darrion Jones is healthy again and I think that is a big factor.
I just feel that Ta’amu is going to help plug the middle and that will be huge on Saturday.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
An equal to DTN? Sure they do – Kenny Rowe. And Tukuafu has been better than Jones/Crichton.
I hope your review proves to be true, but to this point in the season I think you have to say that Oregon’s DL has performed a lot better than ours.
True Kirk...it is really debateable
I think at home these guys play a lot better….and they have to if they are going to beat Oregon.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Played better against whom?
WSU? UCLA? Purdue? – It’s all relative to who’s on the other side of the ball.
The only team on that list that isn't competitive
is WSU. I don’t know where you get off putting UCLA and Purdue on that list. Seriously, you guys are in dogfight against both of those teams.
I thought we already settled this one Bison
Washington has the highest strength of schedule rating in the country coming in at over 80. The Ducks are back in the pack with a lower but still respectable 75.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
UCLA, WSU, and Purdue
Combined they have a 6-14 record for the season.
UCLA, Cal, and WSU are a combined 1-9 in the Pac 10.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to agree ... and I'm not sure we could rank our RBs as even, either.
WR for sure and I actually think you over-rated Dickson. He got all his stats in one game and, otherwise, hasn’t been a huge part of their offense. We might be closer to even there then Duckers care to admit.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Dickson
I think there is a large matchup advantage possibility with Dickson in the red zone against our CB’s. I guess I just can’t get that Kyle Rudolph TD against Richardson out of my head.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
starchless
lost a lost of spark. Dreading how the coaches will figure a way to lose this one. ND and AZ ST should be in the win column. No prevent defense, no stupid calls and we have a fighting chance. GO HUSKIES!
Prevent from winning is what I call it
and 239473294 others
by SeattleDucks on Oct 23, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Coaching
Thanks Carl for that incredible piece of insight.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Insight
I give it out freely, but it’s good to see you’re appreciative. You’re welcome.
I’d expound on why our coaching is much better than UW’s, but why waste my time writing down what we all already know?
…but why waste my time writing down what we all already know?
No no, please indulge us. I’d love to see this line of reasoning…
I'm sure Carl will expound but....
I’m just gonna go with the last 2 minutes of the UW – ASU game.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 23, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Boise St - Fair
That was a young team who looked shell shocked on that blue monstrosity of a field. But thank you for that easy segue into talking about how our 5 games winning streak since then (6 after tomorrow) is a sterling example of how great the staff has been at taking all these young kids and getting them into the number one spot in the PAC. NOBODY saw that happening after Boise. Hats off to the ducks coaches.
Meanwhile you have UW staff coaching like it’s Amateur Hour with ridiculous clock management againt ASU, ridiculous play calling by Holt at the end of that game, ridiculous clock management against USC (http://tinyurl.com/yl2ewg2), putting up only 14 points against Stanford and their terrible defense, ridiculous play calling that resulted in not being able to score on NORTRE DAME at the one yard line with SEVEN chances…..
I’d continue but no matter how much logic and reason I put forth you will all reply with something to reference a great team you once had that was composed of different players and coaches. Quit looking to the past, “what have you done for me lately”
That scary blue field!
I can understand how it could be more frightening playing a former JC program with a scary blue field compared to going on the road and playing in the shadow of Touchdown Jesus.
(By the way thanks for cleaning it up below…we appreciate it…we want to keep it all in perspective and keep it friendly as possible.)
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
John,
I can never tell if you’re actually serious about banishing posters to the garbage thread. Did Carl1 actually say anything more offensive than everyone else on this thread?
Trolling and Flames…they haven’t been offensive just annoying. Folks need to remember this is a Husky blog and we are one of the few that are receptive to opening it up for opposing members.
Carl wrote a nice post below and I thanked him for it….he got the spirit we are trying to share around here.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I see. So never mind the fact that a team that was 0-12 a year ago is now 3-4, and was close enough in the games against ASU and Notre Dame that those coaching blunders (true in the case of ASU, not true in the case of Notre Dame) mattered.
Never mind the track record of success Sark & Holt had at USC. Never mind the way Sark has transformed Jake Locker from someone who was a question mark to play QB in the NFL to a guy being thought of as possibly the top QB drafted if he enters the draft this year. Never mind the impressive recruiting job Sark is doing this year for the UW.
Yours is an impressively shallow analysis of our coaching staff.
Nobody is saying that UW isn't improved
or that Sark & Holt haven’t had great success at USC. But its folly to look at past results for future performance. Or so says my accountant.
Look how well Charlie Weis (hottest seat in all the land) or Eric Mangini (fired once and somehow magically rehired) or Romeo Crennel (fired) has done with their own HC gigs. Not saying that this is the path that Sark will take, but there is a huge difference between being a coordinator at a perennial top 5 school and being a HC at a school that is struggling to regain their glory days.
Not trying to troll, just a simple point – counterpoint.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 23, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I get all that. And to further the point, the same could be said for Chip Kelly.
Looking at the programs they’ve inherited and what they’ve done with them so far, I’ve yet to hear a good argument for why Kelly and his staff should be considered so much better than Sark and his staff.
I think the reason Duck fans think CK is doing a great job is because of how he rallied his team after the debacle at…geez, who did we play again? A lot of first year coaches would have responded terribly, lost players’ respect, etc. He did an excellent job in getting the team focused and back to winning.
If Sark gets UW to a bowl game this year (gonna be tough) then I think he should win every coaching award possible and maybe even make up a few. Turning anyone from a winless team the previous year to a team that people are talking about a potential bowl berth is amazing.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 23, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta give CK credit
That was a tough train to turn around.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Apples and Oranges
Carl, let’s get some facts straight. First of all I didn’t see “shell-shocked” from the ducks in Boise. I saw a zero team come out of the tunnel with an over confident swagger about them. Once they got on the field, Boise State punched them right in the mouth. And why all this talk about a mid major anyways? If Boise State played in the Pac 10 or any BCS conference they’d dropped more games then they’d win. We beat Boise State, but is it a big victory? Us Husky fans don’t think so. Quit making BSU out to be some gigantic all world football program. It’s Gonzaga playing well in early non legue action then playing down to an inferior league.
Secondly you Carl have to consider our schedule vs. the zero schedule. Purdue is not all that- have you been following the Big 10 lately, it’s not a very good league these days. Purdue is at best a middle of the pack Big 10 team and they actually should’ve won that game at Autzen. Then Purdue loses to Northern Illinois- are ya kiddin? Your chalking up the Boilermakers as a great victory? WOW!
Most of your games have been played at home. I’ll give the zeroes one thing. They’ve done a better job putting future schedules together and it pays off. But you cannot compare our schedule to the zero schedule- it’s apples and oranges my friend. We don’t know how well of a coaching job Chipper would do vs. LSU, USC, and Notre Dame. But we do know how well he handles himself vs. Boise State, Purdue, Washington State, and Ucla. A little difference their don’t you think in terms of the opposition and handling game management decisions?
We’ve played a remarkably tough schedule and all of our victories have come at home. Oregon has had an easier go at it with the majority of their games at home thus far. As of now Washington has only lost one game at home (LSU). I think it is safe to say that Oregon is going to have their hands full this weekend at Huskyville.
Who ever wins this game will win the battle on the L.O.S. as always. If our O line can give Locker the protection he needs we’ll hold our own. If our D line can get gap control will do alright. Truthfully I don’t want our defense putting much pressure on the duck QB. If we do he’ll take off running. We want him throwing the ball. Stop the running game (both RB and QB) and force them to pass. But in order to stop the zero spread, you have to read blocking angles and leverage. Flow will lead you to biting on air.
Go Dawgs! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
Why waste your time?
I mean the Ducks have been to how many Rose Bowls and BCS bowl games over the last five years?
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Boise was a classic
One of these years the Ducks will be good enough to win the WAC….not this year.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Um I think we have...
And you guys have lost to them twice in 2 years fella.
All I saw was purple
I used the present tense...
as in you couldn’t beat BSU this year. The 2007 BSU is not as good as the current team.
This isn't the best BSU team to date
Boise State is not what you are making them out to be this season. The best BSU team was with Zambranky at QB and Johnson at RB- the team that beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl. We caught them the following season and Johnson was still on that team.
BSU doesn’t have a RB of Ian Johnson’s caliber and Kellen Moore looked better last season compared to this season. We on the other hand beat the Broncs with an inferior Husky team then what you see now roaming around Huskyville.
All this is really a mute point anyway. We don’t have BSU on our schedule so we’ll never really now if we’d beat the Broncs this season. Yet we got our tails kicked by Stanford then we turned around and beat Arizona. Last weekend Arizona beat Stanford. So really this entire debate is rediculous.
All I saw was purple
I don't think BSU is all that great this year
We played like utter dogshit for three and a half quarters, half assed in the fourth and still had opportunities to win. Blount was a liability, he was clearly out of shape physically, which probably contributed to his post-game outbreak and the infamously outrageous and dispicable (magnificently awesome) punch.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Oregon beats BSU nine out of ten times...
Oregon just picked the wrong time…don’t schedule WAC teams on the road…what is that all about?
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that is a GREAT arguement Bison!
Who would’ve thought a zero fan would use the 0-12 thing to get our goat? Or last year’s 44-10 defeat. How old are you anyway? Are you a newbie to Pac 10 football? Your argument is hot off the press. Where has Washington been and what have we accomplished? How many Rose Bowl victories do we own? How many national championships do we own? Now compare that to what the zeros have done.
The fact is the Washington program fell into a major transitional period over the last decade. We’ve had lousy ADs and some lousy football coaches during that time. Is it a coincidence that Oregon finally moved from a lower tier Pac 10 program to an upper Pac 10 program during that same decade? Think about it, those recruits had to go somewhere. We lost our recruiting edge during this time frame, and Belloti reaped the benefits of Washington’s mistakes in the Athletic dept.
But rest asured Bison- this program is on the upswing. We finally have administrators and coaches who know how to run a mulit millon $ football program. What you see from UDub this season is only the beginning. It’s a fledgling of what it was and what it is about to become. In 2 or 3 years- we, meaning Washington won’t be in your league. We’ll be in USC’s league if you know what I mean. At this point, we’re not too worried about competing vs. oregon. We want to be competing on the level of USC.
But do keep throwing us the 0-12 thing. We’re big boys we can handle it. WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
crazidawg...
it was a silly retort to a silly post. ummm…we beat BSU 2 years ago. That is pretty silly.
Actually we beat Boise with a team that wasn't as good as this one.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
you beat bsu in 2007
we beat you last year 44-10, so using transative properties from 2 years means what again?
Nada
All that matters is the scoreboard after the game on Saturday.
Let some other guys get a chance to post Bison.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
for what it's worth....
I’ve really enjoyed this week leading up to the game. Husky Hate Week has never been this great. I’m glad you guys are finally relevant again, I’m so glad that this rivalry is back because I was so tired of Oregon State.
You guys are relatively good fans, a little too pompous considering you were amazing a while ago, but I’d rather go back and forth with you all than Beaver fans.
I expect a great game for the first three quarters, then Ducks pull away decisively. Your team will put up a great fight though, both teams will be proud after the final whistle
beaver fans act like juvenile...
these guys just suffer from blantant homerism…which you can understand.
Typical beav post -
Ducks suck! You guys are the paris hilton’s of football….
UW
Our teams is more talented than yours. Never mind that you’re 5-1 and 11th in the BCS…you’re just a paper giant. Go win something why don’t you. Remember, like a 100 years ago we dominated the pac – 10.
Help me understand this. . .
If “The game is never played on the message board or the newspaper” as you stated to DonaldDuck, then what is the purpose of sharing Ted Miller and the other pundits picks in this article?
Because it is part of the build up for the game
If you go on the official Oregon Athletic website you will see it listed there also. Ditto on the Seattle Times, the Register Guard, and the Oregonian.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
is all I can say. Linebacker at Oregon are better, runningbacks at Oregon are better, defensive line at Oregon is better. And here is why:
we are 7 deep at Linebacker: Matthews, Paysinger, Pleasant, Kaddu, Littlejohn, Clay and Stuckey; there is little dropoff from the 1st team to the second team.
we are 8 deep on the dline: Tukuafu, Rowe, Turner, Bair, Ferras, Clark, Toeaina, and T. Montgomery.
at runningback we have a quartet of guys that can do everything and LMJ that is very special.
Thats fine....
But you are not really explaining why they are better than what Washington brings to the table.
Oregon has more depth across the board at most positions…I won’t argue that.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Here is the deal...
Butler makes 8.5 tackles per game but Oregon’s tackles are spread amongst everyone. In two games no player had more than 5 tackles. Your three linebackers stay on the field giving up 6 yard per play while ours are rotating in and holding teams to under 4 yards per play. Please…for the Love of all thing Sane, how are your guys equals?
Ya
You have posted that about three times so far on various threads.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter what the others wrote,
they didn’t make that “game not played in the papers” statement that you did. And you seemed to be using the others to support some kind of prediction of yours.
Just an observation IMHO.
I actually made the prediction way before they did.
I started talking the trap game angle earlier in the week and since the majority of those writers listed read this blog every single day perhaps it had some influence.
I think if Iws jumping on their bandwagon after the fact your point would have some credence…since they are actually doing the opposite it is just a case of sour grapes on your part.
Here is my observation IMHO.
It doesn’t matter what anyone writes…if it isn’t in favor of the Ducks winning by 3-4 TD’s you are going to have a problem with it.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Husky Denial
Wow.
Your defense is second worse in the Pac, ahead of lowly WSU, yet you think your D line and linebackers have the advantage?
Running back: just look at the conference standings. LMJ is 3rd in the Pac and would be higher if not for sharing time with Barner and only having 22 yards in the Boise State game.
Wide receivers? Considering Dickson lines up at WR mostly, with Paulson at TE, I would have to give the edge to Oregon. By the way Paulson would also get the nod at TE.
Red zone defense? Huskies have allowed their opponent into the red zone 37 times this year, 5 more than any other team. Oregon tends to score on long plays. I don’t think red zone defense is all it’s cracked up to be.
Running back: just look at the conference standings. LMJ is 3rd in the Pac and would be higher if not for sharing time with Barner and only having 22 yards in the Boise State game.
The category was “running backs”, not “running game”. LMJ benefits from a better O-line that does Polk.
Red zone defense? Huskies have allowed their opponent into the red zone 37 times this year, 5 more than any other team. Oregon tends to score on long plays. I don’t think red zone defense is all it’s cracked up to be.
The deal with our red zone defense is that while opponents have gotten into the red zone a lot and scored a lot, most of that scoring has been field goals. I’d prefer we don’t let them in the red zone so often, but if it’s going to happen (and with our defense, it’s going to happen), I like the fact that we limit TD’s to a great extent.
Oh Duck Poop!
With a 3-4 record against the top schedule in college football i would say the stats are bit skewed in comparison to WSU.
Have you ever actually seen Chris Polk play? Did you ever hear me say anything that was less then complimentary about LMJ? Both these guys are pretty even…the difference on Saturday will be deternined on the line of scrimmage.
WR’s? You guys don’t have anything close to the talent and depth we have this year. It was one of your weak spots going into the season. TE I give to you but Middleton is pretty good.
The Red Zone defense has been special and I know you hate to admit that…it is what it is.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions
One last thing
Would you either
a.) get an actual husky for your mascot or,
b.) change your name to the Washington Malamutes.
Having a malamute for a mascot when your name is the Huskies is just kind of silly.
Hey, it’s a Duck fan trying to tell us about Huskies – how rich!
FYI, the term “Husky” is a catch-all for a number of specific breeds, including Siberian Huskies and Alaskan Malamutes.
Wrong!
Malamutes are an entirely different breed, being much larger, weighing more, and having an entirely different temperament.
Nice try though.
Well that is true
It is also a matter of semantics since Huskies and Malamutes are similar….
Ducks and Beavers….Water Fowl and Rodents.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
If it’s factually true ( which it is ) then how can it be semantics? If I were affiliated with UW, I’d change it to Malamute and keep the beautiful mascot.
Besides, Huskies are famously skiddish and tend to run away easily….
If it’s factually true ( which it is )…
Except that it’s not a fact. The term “Husky”, is in fact just what I said it was – a catch-all term that encompasses a number of specific breeds, including Alaskan Malamutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husky
Or better yet, go here and find me a breed called “Husky”:
http://www.akc.org/index.cfm?nav_area=homepage
Yes, there is a breed called Siberian Husky, but that is one of many breeds that fit under the general term “Husky”, including Alaskan Malamutes, Samoyeds, American & Canadian Eskimo Dogs, Greenland Dogs and many more. And we are not the Washington Siberian Huskies, or the Washington Labrador Huskies, or the Washington Sakhalin Huskies – we are the Washington Huskies.
Sorry bud – you are misinformed on this one.
Dude, you just proved my point
The AKC recognizes the Alaskan Malamute and the Siberian Husky as two distinct breeds.
Same for the Samoyed (which I have two of), American Eskimo (which I used to have two of), and the Spitz.
All different breeds.
BTW, citing Wikipedia for anything instantly destroys your credibility. But Wikipedia states that Husky is a general term for both Alaskan and Siberian Huskies (even though AKC does not recognize Alaskan Husky as a breed). It does not, however, include Malamutes.
Its tantamount to the Ducks have a Canada Goose as their mascot. Close, but no cigar.
But Wikipedia states that Husky is a general term for both Alaskan and Siberian Huskies (even though AKC does not recognize Alaskan Husky as a breed). It does not, however, include Malamutes.
Your reading comprehension is quite poor. It says:
Husky is a general term for several breeds of dogs used as sled dogs. Because of strength and stamina, the name “Husky” is used extensively for sports mascots. Huskies were originally used as sled dogs in northern regions but are now also kept as pets. Historically, the word “husky” is a corruption of the derogative term “Eskie,” also given to the Esquimaux tribes that came into contact with Europeans who made early expeditions into their lands. The most common husky[clarification needed] is the Siberian Husky and is often considered to be the fastest husky, although the Alaskan husky is faster. Huskies are very intelligent and work together well.
You’ll note that “sled dogs” is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sled_dog
And what do we see listed? Why, Alaskan Malamutes among many others.
You don’t like Wikipedia? OK, how about his, taken from a book called Dogs In Britain, A Description of All Native Breeds and Most Foreign Breeds in Britain:
http://www.messybeast.com/history/huskies.htm
And what do you see? A listing of the 10 main breeds including Alaskan Malamutes. And what does the entry say specifically about the term “husky”?
The Husky or Eskimo group is large and comprehensive, embracing many breeds and sub-breeds, all of which are usually lumped together and described as Huskies rather than by their specific titles. Actually the name Husky is a generic term for sled dogs […] the idea is prevalent that every dog seen by a tourist hauling a sledge in Canada is a Husky, a pure-bred Husky, when at least half the dogs used for haulage purposes in the more southern belts are cross-breds and mongrels far removed from the hardy dogs of the pure Husky race.
Would you like me to stop now or continue to prove you wrong?
Once again, we are not the Washington Siberian Huskies, we are the Washington Huskies.
Correction
You are the Washington Malamutes.
Distinct breed as stated by the AKC, the only singularly recognized authority on dog breeds.
Period.
Wow, you just don’t know when to quit when you’re wrong do you?
So if a team was called the “retrievers”, would you argue about whether they should use Golden Labs or a Water Spaniel, or a Newfoundland, or a Poodle, etc?
The term “husky” is a catch-all for sled dogs. Siberian Husky is one of the many specific breeds under that umbrella. So are Alaskan Malamutes. That is a fact. Sorry you have been misinformed, and sorry you are too stubborn to learn something new.
Is "Duck" a catch all name?
So are you guys like mallards or catch all ducks that are mixed bread thru different species of the duck family. Regardless have you ever seen a scummy duck pond? A duck is just about the scummiest bird on the entire planet.
You want to call out our Malamute/husky, but you don’t have a problem with your mallard/duck thing that $-its everywhere!
All I saw was purple
I never knew there was a Sakhalin Husky until now
I just wanted to say that I kind of love how absurd the back and forth between our two fan bases has been at times this week.
Washtington Geoducks
How bout having a mascot that actually resides in your state…
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
What the hell does it matter?
Oh I’m sure Tigers run rampent in the state of Louisiana and Trojans flock to the nearest watering holes in sunny Southern California. Using that logic is the reason why Oregon and Oregon State have about the worst mascots in college athletics- pond scum water fowl and beaver fever rodents. YIKES!
All I saw was purple
My dream matchup
Oregon State vs South Carolina.
I can hear the announcers already, "the cocks hoped they could penetrate the tight ends but have been taken down instead by a bunch of wide receivers.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
And once again the cocks leave the beavers wide open!
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Ummmmm.
Last time I was in Louisiana I was mauled by 14 tigers, thanks for bringing up bad memories, jerk.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 23, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Could it be the mauling you received in Louisiana might have something to do with how zero fans are perceived? Now I am not an expert in fan behavior, but the current buz in the Pac 10 is that both WSU and Oregon have the most hyenious and obnoxious fans. That might explain the mauling or ass beating you received down there.
Jerk? Hey I’m not the one who called out the freakin’ mascots- I just felt it was my obligation as a loyal Husky fan to defend what is ours. The best Oregon can do in terms of a mascot it to sport a goofy, cartoon figure on the sideline. We on the other hand can have a real mascot and sport our own goofy, cartoon figure on the sideline. Yet if the zeros go with a real mallard mascot- it would be best to put him in a cage or he might fly away.
All I saw was purple
Picture
John that is about the best picture I’ve ever seen you post. I think our water fowl friends are just a little apprehenive about the girly-boy gang green zero speedo dude.
Loved IT! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
I love that guy.
He’s a local. I see him all the time.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
I frigging love it!
That is just awesome!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 23, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That dude is king among men.
If you had a package like that you’d be sporting a uni-speedo too.
so chip kelly says every week is a ncg for them. even if they run the table which they won't
they are not getting to the ncg
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 24, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions
I think you're totally missing the point of this mantra.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
He just might run the table...
I think the Ducks beat SC next week.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 24, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
We can only wait. Oregon mental and composure errors today must be corrected if we are to usurp USC.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

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