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You may have noticed that it is Oregon week and we have plenty of guests from the South visiting the blog this week. I want to thank all of them for stopping by and bringing a lot of good stuff to the table. This is a big game for the fans of both schools and over the years it has become quite the rivarly.
Although the schools began playing each other in 1900, the rivalry began in 1948, when Oregon and the University of California tied for the best record in the old PCC . The winner of the PCC, as is today with the Pac-10, would go on to play in the Rose Bowl. The tiebreaker format the PCC elected to use was that the championship team be elected by the schools.
In the PCC there were 10 teams, 6 of them were in the northwest and the other 4 in California, so it was assumed that Oregon would be the team playing in the Rose Bowl. Instead California was voted champion of the PCC because the University of Washington had talked the University of Montana, then a member of the PCC, into voting for California, something that has not been forgotten by Oregon fans.
Over the last 60 years the rivalry has grown between the two fanbases. In 1962, Larry Hill, of Oregon, was tackled by Washington fans who had rushed onto the field while he was trying to catch the game winning touchdown.
In 1973 the Ducks led by the great Dan Fouts routed the Huskies 58-0. In 1974 Washington returned the favor with a 66-0 rout of their own during Jim Owens last season as head coach. Owens made sure his team scored more than 58 points which was a sore point with quacker backers.
In 1975 the Don James era started at Washington. The Huskies would win five games in a row before finally losing to the Ducks 34-10 in 1980. I was at that game and a guy named Reggie Ogburn could do no wrong that day.
The Huskies would win six more games in row against Oregon before dropping back to back games in 1987 and 1988. The Huskies then put together another string of five straight wins against Oregon to close out the Don James era.
Duck fans back in those days complained about something called Washington arrogance. Washington expected to beat the Ducks and during Don James tenure they were 14-3 against their neighbors to the South.
Things began to change in 1994 when Kenny Wheaton made a play now infamously known as the pick. All modern Oregon football history seems to have started with this play. Washington was driving inside the Oregon ten yard line for the usual game winning TD when Wheaton intercepted Damon Huard at the goal line and returned the ball 91 yards for the winning touchdown.
In 1995, Washington head coach, Jim Lambright, lobbied for the Huskies to be selected to play in the Cotton Bowl instead of the Ducks. He was unsuccessful but Duck fans were not amused.
The rivalry was given a boost, at least in Oregon eyes, when former Colorado Buffaloes head coach Rick Neuheisel was named head coach of Washington 1999. It was Neuheisel who called for a fake punt during the 1996 Cotton Bowl between Oregon and Colorado while the Buffaloes led 38-6.
Oregon fans were also accused of turning Neuheisel in for recruiting during the dead period. The Ducks went 1-2 against Neuheisel-coached Washington teams. The rivalry grew even more when Coach Neuheisel celebrated by taking photos and jumping up and down on the "O" in the middle of the field after a win against Oregon at Autzen Stadium.
Oregon comes to Seattle on Saturday sporting a five game winning streak over Washington. Oregon has won 10 of the last 14 games in the series.
The last time the Huskies won against Oregon was in 2003 under Coach Keith Gilbertson. Casey Paus led Washington to victory in the second half by engineering a strong running game which ended up blowing the Ducks away 42-10 while the usual startting QB Cody Pickett sat out on the sidelines with an injury.
The Dawgs under Ty Willingham never performed well against the Ducks. Tyrone's trademark at UW were teams who played without fire and emotion. Surprisingly the team they played with the least fire and emotion was arch rival Oregon. The Huskies never played a competitive game against the Ducks with Willingham at the helm.
Washington fans hope that all starts to change this weekend under the leadership of new Husky coach Steve Sarkisian. Winning consistently in the Pac 10 starts with taking care of business in your own neighborhood. Sarkisian is keenly aware of what a victory over Oregon or any other Northwest rival means to his program.
Oregon has a new head man as well this year in former OC Chip Kelly. After a disasterous start in his first game against Boise State the Ducks have won five straight and are the only undefeated team in the conference. Oregon fans are thinking Rose Bowl and view the trip to Seattle with more trepidation than they are willing to admit.
The truth is this has all the makings of a trap game for Oregon. (According to a former player who is still close to the team as a booster) The players are used to beating Washington with little resistance. They think of the Huskies as an 0-12 team that has not been competitive in a game with the Oregon program for over five years. Not one single player on the Oregon roster has ever lost to Washington.
They say this is just another road trip against another conference rival. They simply expect to win when they play Washington. The fire that once burned surrounding the series has been replaced with the absolute certainty that the Huskies will lay down whenever they play the Ducks.
Oregon is coming off a bye week which can be both a blessing and a curse. Bye weeks are great for getting kids healthy, recruiting, and giving younger players an opportunity to show what they have learned during the first half of the season so they can compete for playing time in the second half. Bye weeks are not a great tool for sustaining momentum. Bye weeks can breed complacency. Obviously it can be a challenge to fire up the engine again after a two week rest.
Oregon also has some choices to make about who starts the game at QB. Jeremiah Masoli who looked dreadful early in the season and like a Heisman candidate before he got injured is coming back from a sprained MCL. Even if he plays this week he won't have the same mobilty he had before he went down.
Lets say they start Costa instead? He is a steady QB and had a decent game in his first start against UCLA two weeks ago. Truth is an explosion of Bruin mistakes sealed that game shortly after the start of the third quarter. The Oregon offense on the other hand wasn't its usual self. If UCLA hadn't imploded in a five minute span the Ducks could have been in trouble. You make your own luck and the Ducks certainly did that but they didn't resemble the team that took apart California when they played the Bruins.
Steve Sarkisian said that Tuesday's practice was the best one the Huskies have had all year. Washington is madder than a nest full of hornets coming off the ASU loss. The team is well aware of the domination the program has suffered at the hands of the Ducks over the past five years. Not a single Washington player on the current roster has ever beaten Oregon. This team realizes that they have to do something special on Saturday to get back on track in the bowl picture. Beating another top ranked opponent would be special.
This is a Washington team that has been tested under the fire of the toughest schedule in major college football this season. They are going to hit the field on Saturday with the home crowd behind them with a lot of emotion. This game is going to be hard fought all the way and like most Washington games this year will go down to the final tick of the clock.
Oregon is going to be playing a different Washington team this season. They are going to be playing a group of players and coaches who refuse to back down. They know what adversity is because they have faced it every single week this season. They are going to be ready for the Ducks on Saturday.
For more years than I can count Oregon fans complained about something called Husky arrogance. Maybe that Oregon arrogance that has replaced it over the past five years is the perfect storm that creates a trap situation on Saturday afternoon on the shores of Lake Washington.
(Editors Note: This story was published by mistake early this morning before it was finished. The completed article was scheduled to be published at 7:00 AM. on Wednesday. Changes and edits have been made to protect the innocent...enjoy!)
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I'm guessing you can back this up with quotes from players or coaches...right?
The players are used to beating Washington with little resistance. They think of the Huskies as an 0-12 team that has not been competitive in a game with their program for over five years. For Oregon this is just another road trip against another conference rival. They simply expect to win.
you wouldn’t just make this up… right?
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Actually....
This post was published unfinished and was supposed to come out on Wednesday…not last night. So unfortunately it was published in draft form and not as a finished piece.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, even that addition seems a little of a stretch
(According to a former player who is still close to the team as a booster)
I think I will take what the players are saying and what Kelly is saying to the media (instead of some un-named, past player, booster…sister’s, brother’s cousin, girlfriend).
I don’t think anyone is overlooking this team, UW guaranteed that for the rest of the season the moment the final horn sounded on September 19th.
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Matt Daddy -
are you not reading your own blog? How many posts have we seen where you guys have boasted a blow out by the third quarter? If you think the fans feel that way but the players don’t, you are crazy. Even White Rabbit just a few posts down from here pokes on the same issue.
Oregon has a track record of overconfidence. Look what happened at BSU and at Purdue.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I’m sure some of the players may have some feeling that way. I am even more sure a lot of ignorant fans (most of whom have probably not even watched a Husky game this year) might feel that way. But I guarantee you that BSU taught this team a lesson about overconfidence and Kelly has shown the ability to:
a) have this team focused since that BSU game
b) come out extra prepared after bye weeks
So the claims of a bye week not being helpful has not shown itself in the previous 7 years, or as far back as I looked.
I just look at what the players who are playing and the coach have said about Washington and NONE of it smells of over-confidence or overlooking this game.
I’m sure the Huskies are hoping Oregon comes in unprepared and overconfident, I just wouldn’t bet on it. and all the spoken and written press from the actual team point to that… not some rumor or track record
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This is Kelly's first season as a head coach
How could he have already shown the ability to “come out extra prepared after by weeks”? Is this their second game after a bye week this year?
Down here in Portland...
they are talking Oregon vs. USC on the radio. You’d think they were playing the trojans this weekend.
well, hmmmm, lets see, what did he coach last year????
Oh yeah, the Oregon offense!!! Maybe we should look at what the Oregon offense has done after a bye week or before a bowl…
42 points against Ok St – 2008
54 points @ ASU – 2008
56 points against S Florida – 2007
53 points vs WSU – 2007
so if we are going to use “track record” to go on how Oregon performs…I would say Oregon is going to put up somewhere between 42 and 56 points…yeah that makes sense… that’s the ‘track record" we’ll use
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Being the offensive coordinator and the head coach are very different...
Let Chip make his own legacy, not live off of Bellotti’s.
Matt
Its my theory based on Duck insiders I have communicated with. Could be wrong….could be right. I do guarantee that the game will be a barnburner one way or another.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
you doubt its true?
almost all of your friends on ATQ are harboring the same attitude. Why wouldn’t the players? Oregon has never been accused of having players with the highest levels of focus and humility (Mssr Blount)…so overconfidence would be an issue I would think is on the table.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
actually, I would bet UO would consider this game a failure if they don't win by three scores...
… when players start worrying not about winning but about by how much, upsets are born.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
just like the past 5 years.....
oh wait
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
Hey, everyone, gather around!!!!
Did you guys hear that Blount punched some dude in the face on national TV? First I’ve heard of it. Make sure to tune in for further details as they develop.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 21, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Question
Curious. Why are the ducks thinking Rose Bowl? Yes, I know they are hot right now, but what makes this year different than the last 36 of the 37 that I’ve been alive? I’m just saying.
3-0 and USC with one loss....
That would put them in the drivers seat at this point.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually...
I think we’re going to lose 2 or 3 games from here out and I’d be happy with the Holiday Bowl. We’re a good team, but not a real good team. I think next year we will be a better team and play more consistently. We have too many injury problems and inconsistent receivers to really think we’re going to run the table from here out.
All Ducks, all the time.
I agree in that I think you could be much better next year ...
… with your WRs getting more experience, that O-line getting a little deeper and the phenom LMJ getting going.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
In this league you need to be thinking Rose Bowl every season
Have Washington fans really sunk so far and been so humbled that they don’t understand this? Even if you don’t make it there you need to believe you can do it, and WIN alas the Ducks haven’t won the PAC since 2001, but we keep believing. Oh and the Ducks are 3-0 in Pac 10 play 1 game ahead of USC, until we lose we have the inside track DAWG.
Hmmm
I haven’t seen any Husky fans who had crossed the Rose Bowl off the list till last weekend.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
A very tough game
At least I know we will not roll over and quit like we did the last 5 years, 1 gilby 4 T who. Avg margin of loss has been nearly 25 points those games. Cumulative points has been 85- 209 or avg 17- 41.8.
This team has the fight and courage that shows we are returning to Husky football as we know it. That said, you don’t overcome 5 years of poor recruiting and lollygagging off season conditioning in 10 months. Keep this seasons formula intact. Keep it close and give ourselves a chance to win in the end. We need to win the TO battle, and establish a run game.
After last weeks debacle, I hope the Dawgs have learned not to let your emotions run too high and retaliate for cheap shots. I want the Ducks to limp back home very banged up knowing they were in a dawg fight. GO HUSKIES
Yes
UW is a completely different team than the last few years. Sarko has brought a new attitude and UW is a greatly improved team. The closes loses this year will be turned into victories in the next couple of seasons.
All Ducks, all the time.
To Me
the rivalry began in 1974 when the Huskys beat the snot out of Oregon and the announcers were making jokes about the score and the Ducks- forgetting the prior season. Since then I became an anti-Husky and remain so to this day.
Now, that said, I do keep a level of civility and realize this isn’t life & death- BUT IT’S DARN CLOSE!!!
All Ducks, all the time.
Great Post!
Enjoyed reading John! GO DAWGS!! ROCK Husky Stadium Saturday! We need all DAWGfan cheermeister’s to check in and lead the way in making Husky Stadium the LOUDEST stadium in the conference again. When it’s rockin’ there it’s the loudest stadium in the country! I’ll be leading the troops from Section 42!
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Very interesting read on the history of the rivalry, from a Washington perspective. Less sensationalized.
Fun read. Though, I’m not sure of Oregon is overlooking this way. Of course, as a fan, I can say I’m not overlooking it. I hope things stay clean up in Seattle and we have a fun game to watch. Some aspects of the rivalry have been stagnant, and it’s good to see UDub get a bit more confidence. (You have no idea how much it kills me to say that)
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
Ticket Sales
Anybody know the what the expected attendance will be?
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I had to call the UW ticket office to get a seat in the Oregon section
Lowest day of my adult life. But really, I expect a full house with plenty of green and yellow in attendance (or carbon or black or another neutral color).
by SeattleDucks on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Salmon Cup
I know that sounds goofy but shouldn’t this rivalry have a sponsor and some kind of trophy? It would benefit both schools.
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Phil's Money
Phils money has a self destruct mode when it comes in contact with any Husky, kinda like the banks money that explodes with paint when it leaves the bank.
Where are all of those Ducks coming from? Oh, yeah…
More traffic? Not suprised. DuckSportsNews.com and HuskySportsNews.com have linked to this post.
Agreed
I do agree this should have a rivalry trophy, this is bigger than the apple cup it seems every year. Once in awhile the apple cup makes a difference but for me the last 20 years it seems this game has meant more. Maybe the coffee cup game… then again maybe not. Unsure what to call it at this time but someone needs to start the petition and get this rolling!
Good Post
Good read. But I do have one comment about one of your statements.
Oregon is going to be playing a different Washington team this season. They are going to be playing a group of players and coaches who refuse to back down.
Weren’t a lot of these players on the 0-12 team last year? Refuse to back down? Stanford destroyed your defense that never stepped up. And what about ASU? What exactly would you call that last play? To me, I saw a team that backed down and was hoping for overtime. But since they decided to play Coug defense, ASU won a game they probably shouldn’t have.
any reasonable person would have to acknowledge that the following is pretty remarkable for a team that just 5 weeks ago ended a 15 game losing streak
… they have won three games while playing 10 true freshman
… they have lost only one game by more than a single score and have been in every game they played despite the most difficult schedule in the nation (according to Sagarin rankings)
… they are 1-1 against two top 5 teams (as ranked when they played them)… and they outplayed them both
… they have a legit shot at a bowl game
… they are 3-1 at home
0-12 was obviously less about the players and more about the situation last year with a coach who had quit on his team.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
fwiw
I consider last year’s dog squad at 1-11. The stripes jobbed you in the BYU game.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
77
Last years team quit on themselves early last season. Most importantly the coaching staff quit on themselves and the players. It was a real ugly situtation.
I think you are being kind of nit picky…we are 3-4 and have been in every game this season including Stanford.
Are you actually saying our players quit against ASU on the last play….it was a bad play…nobody quit for crying out loud.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Quit
Well someone, or many, quit using their brains on that last play, and yes, I’m saying they quit, just expecting overtime and not playing it all the way until the final whistle. And I am being nit-picky just to make my point look good. I don’t think the Stanford game was ever that close, they kind of bullied you around the whole time.
Did you even watch the game??
Yes, somebody made a huge mistake, that doesn’t mean somebody quit. Read Condotta’ blog, he’s got a great break down of the play, the player was doing what he was told, if anything Holt made a bad call.
I can’t wait for this game to be over, I’m sick and tired of arrogant duck fans that want to be experts but haven’t watched a single Husky game.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Ive watched them all
Except Idaho, not that impressed. Tough game against a LSU team with NO offense, beat USC in their annual crapping of the bed, pushed around by Stanford, tough game with ND, tough game with Zona, and quitting against ASU. Call the ASU game what you want, but you should have won that game but employed the 8th grade defense the last play of the game. Your defense is garbage, your offense is so-so. Ducks will put up points fairly often and will be able to contain Locker.
And you guys...
…laid a huge egg at Boise. How much offense did you generate there?
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is a duck fan really criticizing an opponent for "losing their brain"?
L. Blount says “that is rich”.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Oct 21, 2009 5:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's a low blow...
Blount lost his brain, not the Ducks. In fact, multiple players were on him for losing his cool.
John, you Dawg!
Hahahaha…….. LMOFAO (the first “O” stands for old). That link to the study of ducks in the Netherlands is very, very funny!
Expect to Win!!!
OD
I am glad you liked it…I always like that stuff….of course it won’t be long till the Ducks bring up Ted Bundy again.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If I could turn back time
I’d resurrect our original nickname “Webfoots.” Sportsannouncers converted it to Ducks and eventually (1920’s) the school officially recognized it for Oregon sports.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
I remember Webfoots...
Classic sort of like stopping at Waddles for lunch before going over the Columbia River back into Washington.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Massoli
He’s supposedly going to play but will wear a knee brace.
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The brace will slow him down
I am not exaclty sure if he will play yet…we will find out at game time.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Supposedly He's...
…practicing like he’ll be the starter. BC’s Blog.
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Masoli...
says the custom fit brace doesn’t seem to be inhibiting his movement. He is definitely starting taking the reps with ones on Wednesday. Of course, there is a another round of medical tests to review.
Hate to ruin the love fest
has anyone read this?
SEC suspends Florida-Arkansas crew
The Southeastern Conference has suspended officials from last weekend’s Arkansas-Florida game after the crew was involved in its second controversial call of the year.
Would the Pac-10 do this? I saw the play in question, total crap call.
Yeah, that was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
Florida player goes to hit the Arkansas player 20 yards from the play, the Arkansas player defends himself by knocking the Florida player on his ass (legally), and the official doesn’t hesitate to throw a 15 yarder. Inexcusable.
Link, for those who haven’t seen it.:
Different Team at Home! WOOF!!!
I’ve got us beating Oregon this season. I’ve had it penciled in since the season started.
Now you can question my method, but I believe Oregon is gotten by by “knowing how to win”. I don’t see this team in the top 15- maybe in the top 25. They’ve had great success with an easy schedule and with the majority of their games thus far at home makes me think they are suspect.
I’ve seen a lot of mistakes on offense and defensively I think we can handle them. Washington has played a tough schedule and to come out w/ 3 victories w/ every loss coming down to the wire is a huge statement for this young team.
I think what you will see on Saturday is an Oregon team who is overconfident due to recent history in the series, but a team that looks flat because of their easy schedule and where most victories came at home. Meanwhile you’ll see a Washington team that is battle tested and has gone toe to toe with LSU, USC, and Notre Dame and has looked impressive in every outing thus far- can’t say the same about Oregon [see Boise State and Purdue games].
We are a different team at home- this young team has struggled on the road and can’t quite figure it out just yet. But we have Oregon at home this year- that will be the difference.
Go Huskies! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
I think we have a decent chance of beating Oregon – we’ve played quite well at home, and have only been blown out of one game this year. Oregon is certainly the better team, but homefield advantage and a motivated Husky team could even things out.
That said, it should be clear that Oregon is a very good team. Yes, their schedule hasn’t been as tough as ours. But they throttled Cal – just flat out clown-stomped them. And while Cal isn’t the Rose Bowl contender we thought they might be at the start of the season, that’s a good team – witness what they did to UCLA and what was supposed to be a very good Bruin defense. And they throttled WSU, which is what very good teams do to very bad teams. It should also be noted that while WSU is a bad team, they’re not nearly as bad as last year, and Oregon administered by far the biggest beat down of the Cougs thus far this year.
Beating Oregon would be a significant achievement, almost as big as beating USC from a pure “how good is this Husky team” perspective, and maybe even bigger from a “we need to end the losing streak to Oregon and re-establish ourselves as the top NW team” perspective.
Not to mention it would greatly enhance our chances of getting to 6 wins and a bowl game…
Oregon does not impress me this year. The only thing about Oregon that impresses me this season is that they have the ability to close games out. But I think they have holes everywhere just like Cal. Nobody has been able to figure out a decent gameplan vs. the ducks yet.
Vs. Oregon you have to take away the run- period! You cannot get caught up in reading flow, because when you do the action goes away. You’ve got to key blocking leverage, which will lead you exactly to the ball.
Oregon is due for a big loss and I believe that time is coming this weekend.
All I saw was purple
How can you not be impressed by the complete dismantling that Oregon gave to Cal? And yes, WSU isn’t very good, but Oregon stomped them far worse than any other team has this year, including USC.
Oregon is a good team. Doesn’t mean they might not start to struggle from here on out, but they have clearly improved a great deal from the start of the season and are playing very well right now.
I wouldn't call O's schedule easy
It’s not brutal like ours, but playing a non-conf of BSU, Utah and even Purdue is legit. They also have to be given credit for pasting what should be a good Cal team. WSU and UCLA are what they are – we get to play them, too
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Oct 21, 2009 5:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
…but playing a non-conf of BSU, Utah and even Purdue is legit.
Yep. Sagarin has their schedule rated 15th in the country. I don’t think Boise is the 4th best team in the country, but that’s a good team, and Utah is a pretty good team. Purdue is better than your typical 2-5 team, and Cal is pretty good.
Remember that we played UCLA with Costa...
starting his first game and we went into game management immediately following the 21-3 lead.
it appeared to me
Costa was playing “not to lose.” It wasnt a particularly aggressive game plan. Probably a good idea against a weaker opponent when youre breaking in an inexperienced qb. I dont expect to see a similar game vs the dogs.
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especially when you knew they weren't going to score...
I felt sorry for their quarterbacks. They got beaten up and New Weasal just chewed them out.
I would put our OOC against anyone in the country
including yours. LSU lacks firepower big time, ND gets shellacked defensively by every opponent, and IDAHO, well, they’re WAC.
Seriously, I would’ve taken LSU with Jefferson getting his first start over going to BSU. Utah at home is probably a little easier than @ND (only slightly). However, I take IDAHO any day of the week even if they’re 6-1 over PURDUE.
Ducks would be the only people in the country that would think their OOC schedule was harder than the UW’s.
No,
I think a lot of people would see @BSU #4, UTAH #18 and Purdue against LSU (a team averaging 295 yard/game!), ND (giving up 420 yards/game) and Idaho and they would see a comparable schedule. Seriously, the award for myopia goes to the Huskies.
LSU is the toughest team on that slate and they are good for two more losses (one to Bama and one to either Arkansas/Mississippi). With their current struggles on offense, I wouldn’t be surprised by a 3rd loss. Notre Dame leaks like seive.
People other than Duck fans, Bronco fans and those that irrationally pull for Cinderellas like Boise would see that LSU is a better team than Boise.
Notre Dame is a better team than Utah. Yeah, the Irish defense isn’t very good. But their offense makes up for it.
Purdue isn’t as bad as their 2-5 record, but people are underselling Idaho. They’re not great, but they are 6-1. Purdue gets an edge here.
Oregon’s OOC schedule is good this year, not like the weak ones you guys used to play on a regular basis.
Bison?
You want to keep this crap over on the garbage thread we put together for this week.
I am serious.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
this isn't crap...
we’re discussing OOC schedules, which doesn’t constitue garbage – I wasn’t the one to start any disparaging remarks about the other school. I might have said myopic but someone commented before that by saying only duck fans would and using terms like irrational. So, they can go to the garbage thread.
This is a Husky blog. John was kind enough to sign off on a thread where Duck fans could throw barbs at the Huskies. That’s where they belong. If you don’t like it, you are free to go back to your Oregon blogs and sites and post there.
Great!
this is my last blog entry, if I really over-stepping some kind of bounds. Crazidawg brought up the point that the Huskies are battle tested and we’re not su much. Gekko Mojo said it wasn’t easy but not brutal. I just simply said that @BSU, Purdue, UTAH stacks up pretty evenly with LSU, Idaho and @ND. Then the accusation of “only a duck fan” would think that. In fact, you said
Ducks would be the only people in the country that would think their OOC schedule was harder than the UW’s.
That was the first barb thrown by you. My myopia comment, the one barb thrown by me (not multiple like you insinuate), was in response to that comment.
I enjoy intelligent discussion. My response was salient to the thread. John was not being kind at all. In fact, in the garbage thread he said that he wanted this to be a blog for the Pac-10. I am specifically commenting on logic used by a poster in this thread. If that is out of bounds, so be it.
Oh yeah, we had Cal come in as the #6 team in the country and UCLA was 3-1 after barely losing at Stanford. So, we are plenty battle tested.
Kindness is in the eye of the beholder this week ; )
To be honest Purdue, BSU, and Utah dont’ stack up to Washington’s OOC schedule and the Huskies schedule so far this season.
Oregon’s strength of schedule this year is a 75.0.
Washington’s strength of schedule is a 80.48
These ratings change every week based on the perfomance of the teams each team has played.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
So, I am not banished to the garbage thread???
You have to admit that both LSU/Notre Dame get name recognition points, right? Of course, ND has taken their fall in the polls but LSU will follow suit here once they play Bama, Ole Miss, Auburn, & Arkansas. For crying out loud, the played you guys, LA-Lafayette, Vanderbilt, Miss St., and Georgia (not doing very well last I checked), before their one marquee game against Florida. They’re averaging 295 yards of offense. What’s going to happen when they play the backend of a tough schedule? Their defense is going to start giving up yards because that can’t be sustained against good competition.
I am not going to banish you
You a rabid Duck fan…you have the right to say positive things about your team.
We all have to remember the game is played on Saturday not here on the boards.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 22, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions

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