Official Duck Hunting / Huck the Fuskies Thread
by thatbpguy on Oct 19, 2009 8:08 AM PDT
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PrintWell, I'm back for the third year. I used to post under blazer prophet, but due to an internal software issue at SB, I had to change.
OK, enough chit-chat. I'll even drop the tired old Fuskie jokes- good as they are.
Well, where should I start? First, congrats for beating the Trojans as well as the usual UW tough non conference schedule. One good thing (and maybe the only good thing) I'll say for UW is that they take on any team, any time. That's a rarity these days and you are to be commended.
The Fuskies were my darkhorse team to make it to a decent bowl game this year from the traditional bottom dwellers of the PAC-10. If not, then the UO game will be your usual bowl game. Shoot, maybe you'll actually win this year- OK, OK, THAT'S A JOKE. I haven't bothered to watch any of your games as I really don't care or like the Fuskies. Never have. Never will. In fact, my 3 favorite teams are UO, OSU & whoever plays UW. Seriously. This, to me, is a heated rivalry and I take the game seriously- within boundries, of course.
As to UO, it will almost assuredly be our back up QB (Costa) getting the start. He's a newbie and feeling his way along, but he played steady againt UCLA and I expect the coach will want him passing more and put in an early passing plan that will be very safe and easy to build some confidence. He's a very fast runner, but after 3 major knee surgeries, they don't want him running at all like Masoli can, so there's no need to key on him. If we're going to win, it will be thru our defense, which has been stellar all season. The UO defense is very fast and sure, but with our top 3 db's out, we're suseptible to the long ball. Good for us, UW doesn't really have a QB that can throw. In fact, I'd say the Fuskies are a team we match up well against.
Playing at UW will make this a tough game. A win for the Fuskies will pretty much assure them of a bowl game and if UO is going to contend for a top 3 PAC-10 finish, then this game is a must win.
Prediction: Despite missing our QB, top RB and top 3 DB's, I'll say UO by 10 in a tough, close game.
Editors Note : Blazer Prophet or whatever he calls himself now has been making yearly appearances before the Oregon game on the blog with his witty canard like humor since the very first days of the blog. If you are a Husky fan keep in mind that he is a pretty good guy except for that Duck thing. Everyone keep it clean and have fun.
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Welcome Back Blazer Prophet
Most Husky fans on this blog may object to the title but the prophet is good, fair, and intelligent poster who adds a lot the week before the annual border clash.
kudos to you, john
For allowing a quacker backer to put up a thread. It does make the hate a bit harder to muster but I forgive you. I think I’ll just refrain from reading this blog for a week. :)
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Good Point
I do appreciate allowing me to come over every year and stir the pot. Youre always gracious to me and good sports.
All Ducks, all the time.
Good Point
I debated about the title, but hope it will be taken in good humor. By the way………….
A guy walks into a bar with a dachshund under his arm. The dog is wearing a Husky jersey helmet and is holding Husky pom poms.
The bartender says,“Hey! No pets allowed in here! You’ll have to leave!”
The man begs, “Look I’m desperate. We’re both big fans, my TV is broken, and this is the only place we can see the game!”
After securing a promise that the dog will behave and warning him that if there is any trouble they will be thrown out, the bartender relents and allows them to stay in the bar and watch the game.
The game begins with the Huskys receiving a kickoff. They march down field stop at the 30,and kick a field goal. With that the dog jumps up on the bar and begins walking up and down the bar giving everyone a high-five.
The bartender says,“Wow that is the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen! What does the dog do if they score a touchdown?”
“I don’t know,” replies the owner, “I’ve only had him for four years.”
All Ducks, all the time.
That reminds me....
how do you keep the huskies out of your backyard?
Put goal posts up, they won’t go near those.
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by Matt Daddy on Oct 19, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Boy, that's original
Let’s see how many teams can you use that one on? I’m guessing 100 out of 120.
Duck: It’s what’s for dinner.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
However...
One can get dog for lunch at any cheap Thai dive, but duck is only at the finest of restaurants.
How do you see the game?
All Ducks, all the time.
With Noodles and with rice
Actually, it’s next door in Vietnam that they eat dog; not part of the great Thai cusine.
Here we eat Duck — in noodles and with rice.
How Can Husky's Win?
First, I have NOT been following the team this year. But I think there are two ways ti beat UO.
1) Strong running up the middle. Nothing slows down a light, quick defense than power running. UO has a strong linebacker crew, so UW will have to be very patient.
2) Throw over the top. The sppedy UO defense can keep the under throw yadage to a minimum. But their lack of db’s experience make them vulnurable to the long ball. UW should air it out several times and look for penalties.
Aside from that, I think UW plays into UO’s defensive strengths.
Any other thoughts?
All Ducks, all the time.
they have to contain LMJ and play fundamental ball
one thing I have seen a lot of from the Huskies this year is missing tackles and losing contain. If they let LMJ run wild, the kid is going to have a monster game.
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They can't.
For the life of me I really can’t see the Huskies scoring much at all against our defense – especially when we’ve had a bye week to prepare. Maybe a few field goals or a touchdown, but I put the 10 as the over/under for offensive points by UW. Thats not good enough to beat the Pac-10’s top offense.
I’ve been a Duck fan for a while now, and I gotta say it really feels good to have a team that is dominant on BOTH sides of the ball, as well as aspecial teams that is very dangerous.
It would take a collapse in all three phases of the game for us to lose this one. If Cal, Utah, and UCLA can’t take us out of our game there is no way Washington can.
This game is going to be a blow-out, hate to say it.
If Sark is still around by then, I see a VERY COMPETITIVE GAME in 2011.
The Huskies have suffered one game where they lost by double digits all season ..
… and this is against a schedule that is infinitely more difficult than Oregon’s. I’m not sure upon what basis you are projecting such a blow out when LSU couldn’t do it, ND couldn’t do it, USC couldn’t do it, neither of the Arizona schools could do it … not sure why you think you can. In addition, the fact that this is a home game for UW matters. They’ve only lost once at home all year and that was to LSU in a game where UW outplayed LSU in just about every way. Sorry, but Oregon is not LSU.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I am not quite sure how your
schedule is infinitely better with BSU #4, Utah top 25, Purdue (look at how they’ve lost and their win against OSU), and conference wins against CAL and UCLA. Let’s be honest here. USC, Cal, and Oregon are the class of the conference. Everyone else outside of WAZZU is very similar in strength.
USC got their annual choke job through against you guys. Face it – they lost to a very bad Stanford team a couple years ago. Notre Dame is not that good; I’ve watched a lot of games and their offense is prolific but they are a seive on defense. ASU will be in the bottom half of the Pac-10 with their lack of any run game.
I agree that you’ve played a tough schedule but I’d stack ours against anybody in the conference, especially our OOC. BSU, Purdue, and UTAH is about as tough as it gets. That’s a #4 team and top 20 team and a team that can beat anyone on any given day.
For the record
Sagarin ranks UW schedule #1 (80.48) & UO #15 (75.00)
Not ‘infinitely better’ but obviously better nonetheless.
Oregon isn't LSU
You’ll see that on Saturday. I’d love a shot at LSU – in Autzen or Baton Rouge. Better yet, in the BCS!
by StuckeyDuck on Oct 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right Oregon is not LSU
We score touchdowns and usually put up more than 10 points in our wins. HEY-O!!
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Oregon isn't LSU.
Oregon has offense.
So far, we share two opponents with Southern Cal. One we beat 42-3 and the Trojans beat 30-3. The other we beat 52-6 while the Trojans beat them 27-6. I have no clue where we’d get the idea we might end up doing better against y’all than they did.
Also, LSU had 9.1 yards/attempt passing and 5.1 yards/rush to UW’s 7.1 yards/attempt passing and 4.1 yards/rush. The idea of “UW outplayed LSU in just about every way” is a convenient fiction.
It's Husky hate week!
"[Louisiana] is the greatest football state in America."~Les Miles
Saints, LSU, and the Bayou Classic pwns whatever your I-AA does.
I support Sonja Newcombe for Heisman.
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 20, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I think any RB or QB trying to run outside the tackles will have very limited success as UO covers that stuff so very well with speed.
All Ducks, all the time.
Thoughts
I would like to say our defensive line and LBs are good enough to stop the run up the middle, but we have not faced any power running team yet. And our db’s have been great despite all the injuries, but then again, we havent really been tested by any real long ball threat. TJ Ward is expected back, and will not allow those deep balls in his area. The corners are young, so if they throw at them enough, they might slip one by. The Huskies will need some really good D to be able to hang in this game, and based off of what I have seen so far, that might be a stretch.
I disagree, Oregon faced UCLA’s run up the middle for the entire first half. The problem with that strategy is that if you get down by a touchdown or 2 you have to abandon the game plan and throw more (which UCLA tried to no success).
Personally, I don’t think UW has the O-line to try and run up the middle. I think their strength offensively is Locker outside the pocket, and WR’s in space (including some up and coming TE’s).
I look for oregon to try and get after Locker, and force UW to try and run the ball more.
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Don't think I would count UCLA as a 'power' running team
They did run right at us, but their offensive line and RB are not good enough for me to consider a power running team. Just my point of view. I would say the only power running teams in the pac would be Stanford and USC when they use their horses, not McKnight.
when I say power, I mean formation and play calling, not size of the back. UCLA used an I-formation and ran a lot of sprints and off tackles right at our D-line and LB’s. they were able to march it right down the field the first half and if not for a 4th and goal stand by our D, UCLA would have been up 10. Its the way you attack a 3-4 quick, speed built D like Oregon’s.
Personally, I don’t know if UW has the O-line to run the same formations. Polk is a decent RB and can pick up 3-4 yards each carry. The problem is if they consistently get into 3rd and long situations, they could be punting more then I think they would like.
Plus if Oregon gets up on them quick, that entire game plan could be for not…see UCLA second half.
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That makes sense
True about the formation, it worked until they were down by two scores, like you said earlier. I think Oregon will get up and they will be forced to pass, right where TJ Ward likes em.
I Guess
it’s going to be hard for UW to score unless they get some short fields. One thing I haven’t thought about is special teams. UO has been not as good as I had hoped there this year. Does UW have a good return specialist?
All Ducks, all the time.
You shot your credibility in the foot.
Well, what should I say, I like the info you bring on Oregon, it can add some good food for thought, and can make for good discussion.
But how can you pretend to know how we match up if, “I haven’t bothered to watch any of your games”. Then you go on to make a stupid jab like, “UW doesn’t really have a QB that can throw”. New’s flash, this isn’t 2008, uh oh, Jake Locker learned how to throw, you guys are going to have to defend the run and the pass.
I have watched some Oregon games, and all of the Huskies games, here’s my take. Oregon’s defense has good speed, but that can be negated by a balanced offensive attack, mix it up, keep the Duck defense from getting too aggresive. Our offense should be able to move the ball, this could turn easily turn into a shoot out.
Oregon’s offense is set up to have a big day, use lots of misdirection, it will kill us. Costa is inexperience, throw a lot of bubble screens, it will kill us. Needless to say, I think your offense could have a field day against us, the question is can our offense keep us in the game.
The bonus factor: Husky Stadium will be very loud, that will help slow down your offense, especially Costa. Our new coaching staff has a unique ability to keep us in games against the best talent the nation has to offer, don’t expect this to be an easy game, it will go down to the last few minutes.
Return jab: Holt’s job should be pretty easy this week, if you want a blueprint on how to beat the ducks, just watch the Boise State game tape, they OWNED the ducks in every possible aspect. Shoot, give Chris Petersen a call, I’m sure he’d be more than happy to share any and all info on how to stop the Oregon offense.
Warning: Ducking hunting season is open!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
What Exactly...
…was BSU’s defense doing to shut down the vaunted duck arsenal, duck arsenal that just doesn’t sound right!?
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would LOOOVE it if Holt called BSU on how to stop the Ducks
Oregon is a competely different team than that first game of the year (as is UW). BSU loaded the box (8-9 men) almost every time and Oregon only tried to throw downfield late in the second half.
Holt’s job is going to be very difficult this week. How does he take guys with 5.0 plus 40 speed and make them stop guys with sub 4.4 40 speed.
Locker is going to be tough. I will not argue with you on that, but his main advantage (speed) is going to be mitigated by Oregon’s main D advantage…speed. I honetly don’t see a shoot out in this one, either Oregon gets out to a big lead and piles it on, or the game is low scoring and close. If I were a Husky fan I would not root for high scoring.
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BTW, I think 5 teams have tried to replicate what BSU did in that game…end result was a loss for them. If I were you, I would look for something new to try
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If that were true . .
you’d be 0-6, maybe 2-4 if you were lucky.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
So what you are saying is there is a blueprint for how to beat the ducks that was written in the first game of the year and since them 5 head coaches, and 10 coordinators have all ignored it?
Tell you what, nevermind, go with that thought…I think every other team just hasn’t done it right yet…I’m sure Holt and Sark will be able to figure it out
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I do think the BSU blueprint is the best way to beat you
Stack the box, be very aggresive and bring all the pressure you can. Force Costa/Masoli to beat you by throwing the ball down field, it is the weakest part of the Oregon offense.
I think there are a bunch of coaches and coordinators that either didn’t have the talent to pull it off, or weren’t committed to it like BSU was.
I think we have the talent, but I’d be shocked if Holt brought that style of defense, which will be our downfall.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Good points, but I will have to disagree
Oregon has adapted well to the “stack the box” idea. Against BSU they never adapted and Kelly looked like a deer in headlights. Other teams have tried it (Utah has a decent D, Purdue has shown to be Ok, and UCLA has one of the best D’s in the Pac 10… personnel wise…oh and Cal’s D is no slouch).
Oregon now employs a quick hit short yardage attack using Dickson and the TEs to get open 4-5 yard down the field. They also throw more quick bubble screens to try and keep the OLBs at bay for a second or two. Plus the O-line has matured A LOT and is now able to open holes up the middle that a quick LMJ is able to find A LOT better than and out of shape Blount.
All, in all I would say the best way to play Oregon is thus:
1. Keep their O on the sideline, the longer you have the ball and keep their D on the field, the better off you are
2. Play straight up, know that Oregon is going to move from sideline to sideline as fast as possible. The best way to counter this is to play fundamental football, make tackles, keep your contain and keep everything in front of you.
If UW takes too many risks, LMJ will break a big one, and Dickson will go for another 100+ yard day.
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The Darwin/Oregon Offense
Always evolving to react to change.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But we're not...
We’ll leave losing seasons to the Huskies. They’re so darn used to it by now…
All Ducks, all the time.
Historically
UW has a far better winning percentage than Oregon. Oops.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Historically
Only one team has ever gone 0-12 in the Pac-10. Oops.
Well...
You make a couple of decent points (the rest is trash, but HEY, your a Fuskie fan)… You say your QB has learned to throw? I sure hope so. When I have seen him, it was evident he was a horrible QB.
As to the BSU game, well what can I say. We had an o-line with virtually zero experience and the play calling blew. Since then I’d say we’ve improved quite a bit as demonstrated with wins over two ranked teams and a thrashing of another. And that’s what it’s about, improving game by game.
Besides, the Fuskies have been our door mats for the past so many years and why should this year be any different? Since beating USC (a noteworthy accomplishment), you’re 1-3. It seems to me the team is rolling over yet again. Tell those guys to show some heart!
But seriously, UW has improved overall. With the exception of Stanford, you’ve been in every game. I just think our defense is playing well and even though we’ll be a bit restrained on offense, we should have enough to take care of business.
All Ducks, all the time.
Obviously You Haven't Seen Him This Year...
…but then again you’re a ZERO…fan!
You say your QB has learned to throw? I sure hope so. When I have seen him, it was evident he was a horrible QB.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen the ND game is all
But if you are going to say something along the lines of:
New’s flash, this isn’t 2008, uh oh, Jake Locker learned how to throw, you guys are going to have to defend the run and the pass.
I would suggest you take a look at 2009 here and 2008 here. Not a tremendous amount of difference between QB rating and completion percentage. And a 6 – 11 TD to INT ratio isn’t going to get anyone too excited.
Look, I hate the huskies a lot and live in Seattle. But they are an improved team and Sark has them playing football like they care. That being said, I think this will be a close game until late in the 3rd (much like in 2007. 464 yards of rushing) and Oregon will prove to be the better team in the end. And I don’t doubt that Husky stadium will be loud. I remember being significantly impressed about the noise level coming from that glorified HS stadium.
Prediction: 45 – 28 with Masoli starting AND finishing the game.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 19, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Point
Their new coach has gotten a lot of respect. I think he has the team pointed in the right direction. That said, they’re still a few years away from challenging the Ducks.
All Ducks, all the time.
If you seriously think Jake hasn’t improved quite a bit as a passer, so be it. You obviously aren’t watching the games.
You also might do yourself the favor of looking more closely at the stats. You’re right – a 6:11 TD:INT ratio wouldn’t get anyone too excited. But an 11:6 TD:INT ration (which is what Locker has) is pretty good. Also consider the quality of competition the UW has faced and what Jake has to work with.
I’d love for Oregon’s coaching staff to be as ignorant of Jake’s improvement as you are, but unfortunately I doubt that’s the case.
Welp, Big gulps anyone?
Well, I guess this is why I should be “working” during work and not posting things online. You are right, 11:6 TD:INT is decent. Not great, but decent. But really, who lists INTs before TDs in any stat sheet?
by SeattleDucks on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
the 6-11 is INT to TD ratio (not TD to INT)
… and three of those INT’s were tipped passes that WRs should have caught or knocked down. Mel Kiper currently has Locker as the #6 player on his Big Board (#2 QB behind an injured Bradford). So, forgive me if I defer to a the more seasoned professional when it comes to evaluating Jake’s talent as a QB.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Wow, Seattleducks, you should be expelled from Seattle
Trying to call Husky Stadium a HS stadium, you are a disgrace to Seattle. It’s only the largest, loudest and most beautiful athletic building in the Pacific Northwest, and for you duck fans, yes Oregon is part of the PNW.
Enjoy your cute little stadium, keep bringing your noise makers, and keep trying to be like us.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Minor note...
Autzen has not once provided noisemakers once in my 8 years of season ticketholding. Just saying.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Provided noisemakers???
Who said anything about providing them? Are they still aloud in the stadium?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I have never seen those thundersticks.
The only type of noisemaker I’ve witnessed carried-in are those huge, awesome green plastic digiridoos. I have one myself. Those, and hands.
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I wish the NCAA would ban any and all noisemakers.
Hands, feet, and voices, that’s all you need. Anything else is for losers.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I brought my dog whistle to the last Husky game…didn’t seem to do much though, except all the Husky cheerleaders kept covering their ears
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by Matt Daddy on Oct 19, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
"are they still ALOUD in the stadium?"
I think you mean ALLOWED hahahahahahahahhaa
Quit posting bud, a UW education is an esteemed thing. Quit dragging it through the mud.
Expelled, get it? It's a HS reference
It is the largest and it is quite a beautiful setting (that was very, very hard for me to type). And I’m pretty sure I was saying nice things about Husky stadium. “I remember being significantly impressed…” Although, I will argue about which stadium is the loudest.
And by trying to be like you should we go 0 – 12 next year with a lame duck head coach? I kid, I kid.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 19, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Husky Stadium vs Autzen
I have been on the field at both stadiums and there is not comparison in crowd noise…husky stadium wins and is the loudest venue in college football.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Id have to agree
Its the roofs that contain the sound. Husky stadium also has the best location of any stadium around with the possible exceptions of Cal and West Point, but you really need to get rid of the track.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
I've never been to a game at HS...
only in Corvallis…I’m a bit ashamed. I almost don’t want to go until the renovation is done, but on the other hand I want something to compare it to so I can marvel at the juxtaposition of them (in my mind at least).
I’m in a construction trade, I told my companies owner that if he bids that job so we land the contract, that I will give him 8 free hours a week to work on that project. I would crap my pants if I was told I get to go to Montalke (good looking college girls) and work at HS everyday for 3-4 months.
AND You Look...
…really bad in those horrid uniforms!!!!!!! GO DAWGS!! Beat the Zeros!!!!!!!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions
Ouch!
That one hit the mark. Our new uniforms do leave a lot to be desired.
All Ducks, all the time.
Leave a lot to be desired?
That’s the understatement of the year, Hellen Keller and Stevie Wonder would find your uniform’s tough on the eyes!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Those Mallard Wings...
…look REALLY bad! Please don’t wear them Saturday or maybe you should our team will hit harder that way!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
youre just jealous
and not just of our incredibly creative, innovative and awesome uniforms. Oh and they’re not mallard wings, they’re from Todd Rungren’s Utopia band during the “RA” year.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
They scream: I WANT ATTENTION
I’m going to nominate Oregon for the TV show: What Not to Wear.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I give Oregon credit for being creative. It’s what you need to do when you don’t have a long, great history to honor…
LOL
I just happen to be old enough to have gone to a game at Hayward Field….slightly a step above West Seattle Stadium.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Tradition
…when living in the present sucks.
Ask any domer :)
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Old Ducker
Thanks for hanging out here on occasion…you have been a great addition to the crew here.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed, the last 5 years at the UW sucked. But the evidence is growing that we will be back to our winning ways soon…
Oh,
to dream the impossible dream.
All Ducks, all the time.
Care to make a wager on that? You can’t seriously think that Sark doesn’t have the UW in position to soon be a regular bowl-eligible team do you?
Sark and the future
Washington will definitely be a team to reckon with in future years. In fact they are a team to reckon with right now. The amount of new talent that is coming in in conjunction with the type of coaching and development going on will push UW back to the top of the conference in no time.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Duck fans (some of them anyway) are scared that the UW may well be returning to their winning ways. They might soon be knocked off in the power structure in the Pacific NW – from #2 to #3 (the Beavers of course are #1…)
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good stuff there. Hell, they can’t even sell out frozen food stadium.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
All kidding aside, since 2005 it’s been damn near even between the Oregon schools:
OSU: 42-18, 2 wins in the Civil War
Oregon: 41-16, 2 wins in the Civil War
Nice Stats
Too bad Oregon fans don’t have any proof to support their “conference superiority”.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Lets ask Kirk
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Can’t really think of a better analogy. Yup pretty much perfect.
by DAWGFATHER91 on Oct 21, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Herbstreit that is. Still haven’t seen any proof that he actually said this, though I’d like to believe it’s true…
They're Butt...
…ugly! Jealous? That’s a laugh!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep it Clean
I guess this is the official litter box for the upcoming game. Keep the wisecracks over on this post and lets get serious over in the real world that resides in the daily articles.
MASH
Holt’s job is going to be very difficult this week. How does he take guys with 5.0 plus 40 speed and make them stop guys with sub 4.4 40 speed.
I think you are exagerating the speed advantage quite bit….however I did see it done quite effectively in the movie MASH.
We did beat USC and they just happen to be faster than Oregon…obviously it can be done.
Of course I'm exagerating (wish I had a sarcasm button)
and I don’t doubt that UW can get it done. I guaran"damn"tee you nobody in Eugene is over looking the huskies and their ability to keep a game close (i.e. ND, USC, LSU) all of which I think have better speed than Oregon.
But if you think Holt’s job is going to be easy this week, think again. Oregon is much better than that first game, and injuries have hurt UW’s defense some since the USC game. UW’s biggest advantage by far is playing at home. A win by UW will surprise no one, a win by Oregon will be a good win… either way, this is going to be a great game
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But if you think Holt’s job is going to be easy this week, think again.
I think it’s going to be very hard. Holt and Carroll relied on superior athletes at USC to match up with Oregon’s spread, and it worked quite well. The UW does not have the superior athletes that USC has, so Holt is going to have to readjust his thinking on how to play against Oregon.
I don’t foresee our defense holding Oregon under 30, which means there will be a lot of pressure on Jake and Chris Polk to make things happen against Oregon’s D. I think there’s potential there, especially if our O-line can create some creases for Polk, Fogerson and Bronson to have some success running the ball. But if our running game is shut down, Jake is going to have a long afternoon.
Come on, Matt
Holt is on a “hot seat” of sorts, there is nothing easy about his job, ever. I probably need a sarcasm button too.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I think Oregon is tough to defend
If you are a Husky fan the Oregon offense scares you because it has been six years since we have been able to stop it. Oregon has been the one team that has dominated on both sides of the ball for so long it is just ridiculous. If we beat Oregon I am going to poop my pants!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I say UW keeps it close.....
Till that Mormon ass sark BLOWS another game. what is with you fuskies and your car salesmen coaches……….Don James is rolling in his shallow grave…I HATE UW….you bree cheese and wine drinking nerds make me sick….you people are not even human
by GoDuckYourself420 on Oct 19, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Worse Fans...
…in the Pac-10. That’s what 10 minutes of fame does for a former woeful bottom feeder.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Man - it must suck being you ...
… and by you I mean “hateful, misinformed, angry, and generally ignorant man with a small mind and even smaller testicles”.
Whether or not you are a Duck is completely irrelevant.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Sark's Not Mormon...
…and you’re a smuck…er ah I mean duck!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't he go to BYU?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
You're Kidding...
…right? DUH! You don’t have to be Mormon to go to BYU.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
How Many Rosebowls...
…have you guys played in? The only one I remember was in 95 when you got BLOWN OUT by Penn State!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If you want to get technical, we've been to the Rose Bowl four times, to your 14.
Touché, nonetheless.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Yeah But...
…I was talking in the modern era.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay?
I was agreeing with you.
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Yeah If...
…we could just talk football rather than all the BS smack talk!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
it started off with a ray of hope
but was quickly flushed down the quacker.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
It saved a lot of prolonging. He got right to the inevitable.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
indeed
Why can’t we all just hold hands, sing kumbaya and celebrate the hate (that Washington created in 1948), that shall never die?
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
That's a grown up attitude
but he started it, it’s not my fault!!!! LMAO!! Ya we started it alright, we were the big kid on the block, and you wanted to be the big kid, too bad that won’t happen until Eugene becomes a larger city than Seattle.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Youd be pissed too
If the roles were reversed. I think Norm Van Brocklin more than proved that he deserved a chance to play in the Rose Bowl.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
I know the story...
Washington truly jobbed Oregon and that is when the hate started.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody call the WHAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!!!!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I've heard so many versions that I totally forgo believing any of it.
Which version did you hear, John?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
it even has its own wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon-Washington_rivalry
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Nice find...
Someone at Oregon obviously hacked off someone at Washington and payback was a bitch…Not sure exactly who was the UW AD at that time but it was close to the saem time that UW paid off the refs when Notre Dame visited Husky Stadium to call a bunch of holding calls….ND never forgave UW until after Moose Krause died… .
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats hilarious...I've never heard that
and i would actually give huge Props to UW if that was true
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Sometimes nothing is fun and it should be isolated.
My theory is if we keep it all one place everyone can have fun and get it out of their system.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sark is Catholic
Rumor has it his family prefers Duck at Thanksgiving.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You are correct, thank you for clearing that up.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Also, Sarkisian broke the spell of aging.
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That is funny
He is only 34, and Armenian’s shave at age 12, but they don’t age much.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Buh?
As to UO, it will almost assuredly be our back up QB (Costa) getting the start. He’s a newbie and feeling his way along
Jeremiah Masoli, the incumbent, will look to start. And, I dunno about you but I don’t consider 6 years in the system and 4 years in Oregon’s specific system a “newbie.”
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Impromptu Poll - Duck Uniforms
I’d love to hear how many duck fans actually like your uniforms, and those who have enough taste to know better.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
To be totally honest, I liked the Dixon era ones better.
These. Though I can definitely dig some of the Masolian jerseys. Our green on white on green combo last week looked pretty slick, I thought.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Those are much better.
They were new, creative, a very modern look, yet they hadn’t gone to the futuristic, space age, we are dying for attention look.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
The Dixon or the Masoli era ones?
If anything, the Dixon era ones were somewhat more explorative, I thought. If these new ones didn’t have wings, they’d be arguably the plainest we’d seen at Oregon since 1998.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
The Dixon era
although they were more “explorative”, they are much better than the yellows, grey’s and wings that you are wearing these days.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
uw vs uo
with purple on your uniforms you are automatically disqualified from bashing other people uniforms
uw <uo
by Duck4Lif3 on Oct 19, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excuse me...
It’s lighting yellow. That is all. thanks.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 19, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Lightning yellow? Now, that's funny!!
Try highlighter yellow and puke green.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
actually are colors are
yellow, green, black, steel, hell might as well throw white in there too
That's the great thing about Oregon
Every other school in the universe has two colors, Oregon on the other hand now has 5 colors. That is why the are so superior to the rest of college football teams.
Steel? Are you kidding me? LMAO!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
ACTUALLY
your colors, according to the University’s website, are green & yellow. Black (and steel) & white are universal colors that most teams use on their uniforms.
He was being sarcastic.
But you just, verbatim, made the point that most Duck fans are when people bring up our usage of accent colors.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
No other team in the nation
is as obnoxious when doing it as oregon. Every team has their home & away, and some teams have an alternate. How many combinations do you have, 14?
This guy LOVES EM
Grey/Green/White wasn’t the best combo (though it beats purple), but everything else we’ve worn this year has been super nice.
I’m crossin my fingers for the Grey/white/Grey look on Saturday. Bust out the new carbon helmets!
by StuckeyDuck on Oct 19, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what this blog is all about...
Everyone is having a good time giving each other some good natured jive while maintaining the respect…I love it.
All you guys are great!
This isn’t just Husky Football….it is Pac 10 football!
Purple and Gold Rocks!
The Assyrian came down like the wolf on the fold,
And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold;And the sheen of their spears was like stars on the sea,
When the blue wave rolls nightly on deep Galilee.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
you think the duck unis are ugly…turn on MNF, Denver’s throwbacks are the worst ever!!!!
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That's why they are throwbacks
and aren’t currently being worn.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
ummmm I think i’m watching them being worn right now :-)
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in all honesty
Tennessee’s and Syracuse are horrible. Our little brother’s unis are painful on the eyes as well. As for ours, I dont mind the overall design, but some of the combinations are fugly. I admit I enjoyed the throwback unis we wore for the Cal game (as well as the result). I dont believe we’ve blown anyone out yet wearing the wings. As for the gay factor, that belongs to UCLA, as always. I actually kind of like Washington’s latest uniforms.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Speaking of which
Can you guys arrange to wear the all white look. You know the “storm trooper” look, white helmets, shirts, and pants. I’m pretty sure you’ve got your butt’s kicked everytime you wear them, hence my desire for you to wear them on Saturday.
P.S. – I’m normally not a fan of all white, but I think it’s one of your better looks.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
55 - 34.
We wore the “storm trooper” look the last time we were in Seattle. 464 yards of rushing an Oregon record. So, Lear, you still want us in that look?
by SeattleDucks on Oct 19, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not
You are going to gain 464 yards of rushing either way.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Another reason I don't like 'em
Can’t win without leaving a tainted legacy. You can say a lot about the Ducks but at least we do it with integrity.
Go Ducks!
yeah, it was hard to be hatin' on Ty
cept for the results he produced. :)
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
tough to make that claim
your integrity is at the very least argueable.
Also helps that you don’t have a major news outlet in Eugene trying to sell papers…
That's a good call...
the entire Eugene metro has just over half as many people as Seattle’s city limits.
Both of those writers also write about sensational topics to stir the pot. In fact one of them writes a near clone story on WSU.
Every team in the country has bad apples, and yes Slick Rick only cared about wins…but frankly wins are what drive revenue for the institutions and allow them to continue providing educations for the good apples.
Ducks, integrity, HA!!!!!!!!!!
Legarette Blount, need I say more???
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
dude
The right cross was awesome. Admit it.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
He's a very powerful striker...and it was an arm punch!
he may have a boxing or Mixed Martial Arts future if he doesn’t get drafted because of this.
Thank you Dawg Pound
for letting me get all that off my chest. I hope you understand that while I do truly hate the Huskies, I am just trying to push some buttons. All in good fun. Thanks for providing a place for this kind of trash talk.
Stuckey
That was a pretty ugly and mean spirited post so it had to go. It wasn’t funny….it was just kind of sad. Not the worst I have ever seen…but not welcome on this blog. If a Husky fan wrote something similar about the Ducks it wouldn’t be welcome here either.
Lets keep it clean it is only Tuesday!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry.
I just wanted to point out Jake Locker’s ugly and mean spirited twitter about Walter Thurmond. Then I just went through the motions . . .
Locker’s not good, our D is dominating, Huskies aren’t classy opponents, Husky Stadium is worse than Autzen, I’m expecting an Oregon blowout, our offense is unstoppable, we put up a ton of yards last time we were in Seattle, UW has unattractive ladies, etc.
Just what I thought was basic rivalry banter. I thought this was the thread for that kinda stuff. Maybe I went a little to over the top in trying to stir the pot.
You are a bozo.
…there was no Twitter. That never happened. The fact that you believe it means that you are too dumb to have even attended UO.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
The article was linked on espn by Ted Miller
So I believed it. You have a link that says it didn’t happen?
by StuckeyDuck on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Link to Jake's Twitter
Link to Jakes Twitter.
Check it out for yourself.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still waiting for you to produce such a link.
You are probably referring to this post from Nick Daschel. You think because Locker’s picture is in the article that Daschel is accusing him of writing that? Read it again – the tweet came from some nameless faceless fan and was directed at the Buster Sports Blog.
Reading is a fun hobby. Reading and comprehending can even be considered a useful skill in everyday life. Check it out. Oh, and apologizing for besmirching someone on baseless grounds never hurts.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Stuckey
You are actually atributing it to that link….wow….hate to be condenscending but that is pretty moronic logic.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, thats the article.
I misread that as coming from Locker’s Twitter. My bad. So Locker isn’t as big as a d-bag as I thought. Anyway, sorry, my mistake.
It still came from a Husky fan – which is actually a lot less surprising.
There is nothing about Locker that makes him a “d-bag”.
And before you cast any stones about Husky fans doing ugly things, you might want to pause to think whether any of your fellow Duck fans have ever done ugly things as well.
Locker
You are clueless, Locker has more class than the entire state of Oregon combined. Get your facts straight.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
If you want to argue about class . . .
you’re gonna lose that battle.
by StuckeyDuck on Oct 20, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Arguing about class
You have to be kidding me. The Ducks have put a fine run together over the last 15 years. That being said nobody ever accused the Duck Nation as a whole of being classy.
Just for example this forum happens to be classy and run by a Husky fan who was actually welcomes Duck fans to participate and respects their opinions….that is the definition of classy.
Can’t say there is a single bit of reciprocation that has ever gone on at Oregon web sites….just saying.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ATQ
Very true and we have an co authored Q&A coming out this week.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
GekkoMojo
hangs out at ATQ frequently and I dont remember ever seeing anyone get on his case. Maybe its the Geico effect.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
We’ve been on his case a couple times… but it’s nothing that we haven’t done with anyone else, including other duck fans.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
<3
Just stop doing well in the Jersey Contest. Which… I think happened.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
If you want to argue about class, no one ever wins that. You never know when your program is going to have a player punch another player, or get arrested, or get kicked out of school…
Or you’re going to have a coach get caught gambling, or cheating on his wife, or recruiting violations…
You cannot control the “classiness” of the program you support, or the alma mater you went to. It is never a winning argument for anyone in my opinion and one that never needs to start.
As for this blog, John, you have done a great job monitoring this “fun” conversation this week. Could this have gone on at another site? Sure. But it happened here and for that I say thank you to you and all the participating Husky fans who have allowed us in infiltrate your domain. I only hope the contest on Saturday is participated in with as much decorum as has been displayed here by both sides of the aisle.
I shall now retire to my own side of the field and prepare for the “battle” that will ensue this weekend. I will be back to the DawgPound on Monday to say either good game or congratulations. Till then…
Matt
If you want to argue about class, no one ever wins that. You never know when your program is going to have a player punch another player, or get arrested, or get kicked out of school…
Agree 100%.
I’m sure Duck fans like hearing about LaGarrette Blount about as much as Husky fans like hearing about Jerramy Stevens.
Matt
As usual you are a classy act and I have to say the same for all the Duck fans who have visited this week and stop by on a regular basis. We are a Husky blog but we like to be a Pac 10 blog at the same time. Everyone is welcome to participate.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
fans of the slimiest program in the Pac-10 over the last 20 years
talking about class…….heh.
and don’t hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
“Slimiest program” in the Pac-10? Convenient of you to cut it off at 20 years, since that cuts off Oregon’s major violations in 1981, violations that had punishments very similar to those the UW had from 1994. And the violations the UW had in 2004? Very similar to the ones Oregon had in 2004.
People in glass houses…
It is over the top
It is for friendly banter not a bunch of mean spirited baloney.
Hey…have a good time and keep it real.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It will be really great to win this game...
and put UW at 3-5 and wondering how they’re going to go 3-1 with Oregon State, Cal, & UCLA left. Hell, even WAZZU isn’t a given.
3-5
That would be a bit of a hole…thing is…who says Oregon is a lock to win the game?
Honestly I don’t see enough there to even begin to think that. I think it is going to be a close hard fought game that will go down to the last possession.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't underestimate UW...
definitely has me popping xanax. However, I can work myself in a lather when play WAZZU. The thing is Oregon should win this game. We should win this based on talent. However, there is always the rivalry and the home field advantage. I do think we have the perfect defense to contain locker.
Explain why it is the perfect defense to defend Locker?
He is the most mobile QB you have played this season…You did well against statues such as Riley, Prince, and the flavor of the moment at WSU….but other than just saying it….explain why your defense is so perfectly positioned to contain Jake Locker?
I have seen the Ducks play quite a few times this year….it is a good defense on the par of an Arizona.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
It is not the perfect defense to contain Locker ...
…because your D-line is not dominant, your secondary is young and, as a whole, it is a team that plays aggressive but takes risks … risks that sometimes backfire. The perfect defense for Locker is one that looks more like ASU – outstanding edge rushers and a physical secondary that can knock UW receivers out of their routes. Mix in the discipline and field smarts that come with upperclassmen in key positions and you have the “perfect” Locker D. UO has speed, but that is not the only important criterion.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Oregon D has no resemblance to ASU D
It is all about the front 7 with ASU and while Oregon is good I would think that the ASU front 7 is among the better units in the country.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
John, its a totally different scheme
ASU plays a lot of 4 d-line man and relies on them to put pressure on the QB (which they were able to do against UW) and drops the LB’s into mid short coverage.
Oregon plays a lot of 3-4 and brings different blitz packages which require the O-line to try and figure out who is blitzing and stop that one…I can’t remember, has UW played any 3-4 defenses this year?
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We have played different combo's at times
I can’t say that anyone played a 3-4 the entire game. I would have to actually look that one up Matt.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
a lot of teams play 3 down lineman in obvious passing situations. Oregon has completely changed their scheme this year and is playing it almost exclusively. Plus, they are using different packages inside the 3-4 (such as 3-3-5, 4-2-5 with Rowe changing from LB to DE).
1. I think this helps with fast/mobile QB’s cause you have more speed on the edges to keep him contained and not getting to the second level as much.
2. The blitzes are a bear for even good O-lines to pick up. A lot of times you will see 4 LBs all standing at or near the line of scrimmage but only 1, 2, or none with a safety coming instead actually blitz and it creates a lot of confusion for the QB and oline to pick up.
3. The QB needs to make quick reads and right choices. With the blitz coming so often from different spots, the QB has less time to look downfield.
Lastly, since this is the first year Oregon has played it, it took some time for the players to get used to. At times in the Pudue and BSU game the LBs looked confused and shuffled a lot right before the snap. Since Utah there seems to a lot more cohesiveness between the LBs D-line and DBs about what is happening.
Against UW???? Well, we’ll see.
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I truly believe Locker’s ability is going to provide a great test for the D this year. Oregon has not faced a mobile good QB like this yet. They have faced better O-lines (purdue). They have faced more mobile QB’s (Utah). They have faced better runners (Best). But a QB who is mobile a good passer and a good runner…not yet. I am truly excited to see how they do.
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Here is why I think it's perfect:
SPEED. We have speed in spades. This is the fastest defense I have ever seen at Oregon. Brandon Bair has DE speed at DT, Kenny Rowe has OLB speed at DE, our OLBs such as Paysinger, Kaddu, Littlejohn, et al. have wide receiver speed and throw in Pleasant (3rd fastest on team behind two state 100 meter champs) with running back speed at the sam backer spot. We don’t have speed in the starting 11 but guys that are subbing in are fast.
yes yes yes, I heard ...
… you UO boys are fond of pointing out that the Ducks D is so much faster than LSU, ASU, USC and ND. I’m still trying to figure out how Purdue hung 30pts on you despite that speed, but I’m sure I’ll hear a good excuse shortly.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
There oline was senior laden and big...
it’s the best we’ve faced to date. From what I’ve seen of yours…not so much.
not so much
Our OL is simply adequate.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You can stop putting ND and ASU in the same...
category as LSU and USC. ND gets lit up every game. ASU hasn’t proven a thing that tells me they are any different than the team that got shredded for 52 last year against us.
Also, we give up size to put speed on the field. So, I would not be surprised that our d has more speed than USC or LSU.
Speed?
We have seen plenty of world class speed this year with USC and LSU. Not saying Oregon doesn’t have speed…they do…they have more than UW…but to say they have more speed than USC and LSU is not correct.
You need to explain why your defensive scheme is the perfect one to contain Locker. You have to remember that Locker is primarily a passer this season. So if you are blitzing LB’s that means a lot of stuff in the middle is going to be open.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We blitz from everywhere...
In fact, Costa was saying that your defense doesn’t ever blitz and then when they do it’s kinda of obvious. We’ll blitz from everywhere and we hide it.
This whole speed argument is making us sound like we are in the SEC
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip Kelly said in the beginning of the season...
that our defense would surprise because of, you guessed it, speed. How else do you explain what we’ve done on defense.
I'm not saying we aren't fast...
But everytime some keeps hounding on speed it makes me think of an SEC homer. Thats all. I love our D, especially Boyett. Can’t believe he is only a redshirt freshman.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The front seven as a defense is...
dominate. I felt sorry for UCLA’s quarterbacks and I am guessing from what I’ve seen of your oline, it won’t be any different. Of course, Locker has supreme mobility but I guarantee that he’ll have someone in his grill at all times.
since we are giving opinions with no facts to back them up ... let me give you some of mine
… Masoli is the most overrated QB to come along in this conference in years
… UO’s o-line is a shadow of what it was last year
… UO’s d-line scares nobody
… UO’s secondary is too tattered to be relied upon every week
… UO’s receivers are underachieving this year
… UO’s cheerleaders are hot but easy … to be fans of
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Here is some evidence
we are #5 in the country in yards per play against. So, here is my rebuttal…
-Masoli has is 11-3 as a starter
-that oline last year put 4 guys in the NFL; most olines are a shadow of last year’s unit. Do you guys have the dline to make us pay?
-Don’t be scared of our dline; I hope the UW team thinks the same way
-Boyett, Lewis, and Jackson are extremely strong nucleus to our secondary that has played together in every game. Not even BSU, UTAH, Cal et al. have exploited it.
-our receivers are underachieving and so what???
-agreed…the best cheerleaders in the country.
actually I will have to disagree
our cheerleaders have had a huge drop off from last season. Who’s doing the recruiting for them anyway?
Our WR are underachieving???? Do you count Dickson in there?
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probably the only thing worth watching in the Red River Rivalry game was the Texas cheerleader shots…pretty decent bunch there too
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I will always give props to Oregon cheerleaders.
…sometimes you just have to call it like it is.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Oct 21, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't really make a judgment from that picture.
Though I can’t see any that really stick out.
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The word dominate does not beging to explain what they are doing on defense. Maybe Matt can help you out with this one. Once again explain the scheme they will use to contain Locker and why you think it will be so effective.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is the thing...
I can say that we put together great zone blitz packages, that we can make up for mistakes with our speed, that we are legit 7 deep at linebacker and 8 deep on the dline with little dropoff, etc. I just think that we have the speed at OLB to spy Locker and actually contain. Paysinger and Pleasant are about the fast OLB’s I’ve witnessed at Oregon. Our defense has a nose for the ball and creates a lot of turnovers.
If you want something other than hyperbole, here are some stats:
int/game #24
sacks/game #9
fumbles gained #15
total defense #15
yards/play #5
scoring defense #21
rush/attempt against #20
pass/attempt against #4
I don’t know but maybe if you took off the purple glass and took a look…you might be a little worried about our defense.
Your defense has played well. I think the question is how much are those stats inflated by the schedule you’ve played – WSU and UCLA have bad offenses. Cal has a very good one, so you get a lot of credit for clown-stomping them.
On the whole, I don’t think your defense is the best we’ve played – I’d bet USC and probably LSU’s are better. It’s better than Notre Dame and Stanford’s defenses, certainly much better than Idaho’s. ASU I think has an edge on you guys on defense, and I think Arizona is pretty close to you guys.
It’s a good defense, but the Huskies have had success against some good defenses this year.
I would agree that LSU and USC have
elite defenses…how can you argue? I just think that our defense is made to play in space. USC has a lot of dropoff from year’s past on the defensive side of the ball. They’ve retooled the front seven and teams are scoring on them. LSU has played UW, Vanderbilt, LA – Lafayette, Miss St., Georgia, and then Florida. Nobody on that schedule is an offensive juggernaught except for Florida, which really hasn’t shown it yet. I’d say we’ve played a more offensively prolific schedule and we’ve had better defensive stats.
LSU and USC have great defenses.
But how can you say that they are better than Oregon’s? The stats don’t say so. Just from watching the games I don’t SEE it. And you haven’t played us yet.
So . . . .
You are doing the same thing the national media does that pisses us all off. You are giving USC and LSU credit for the names on the front of their jerseys, not for their on-field performance.
I’ll do the best I can to show you how dominant the Duck D is. I don’t know blitz packages or zone/man coverage breakdowns, I just know what I see. We are fast, we hit hard, we force turnovers, and we don’t give up many big plays.
Some comparisons for you:
UCLA’s “weak” offense put up 26 points and 448 yards against Cal (thats about equal to what USC did against the Bears). They put up 3 points and less than half that yardage against the Ducks . . . at the Rose Bowl.
Your Huskies scored 17 points in your loss the ASU. You turned the ball over 3 times. Wazzu (the worst of the worst) scored 14 and had 4 TOs against the same team. Similar performances against the same team.
Against Oregon, Wazzu scored 6 points, managed just 158 yards, and committed 3 turnovers. Could we expect a similar performance from UW? Why not?
You say that USC has a better defense than Oregon? Luckily for us they have played two common opponents. How did they compare?
Against WSU – both teams gave up 6 points and forced 3 turnovers. UO held the Cougs to fewer yards (158 vs. 229). Total domination by both teams.
Against Cal – both teams gave up 3 points and forced 2 turnovers. UO held the Bears to fewer yards (207 vs. 285). More domination.
That looked like a very equal comparison to me between the Ducks and Trojans. If anything Oregon has played better than USC.
So how did Locker and the Fuskies do against USC? Yes, I know you won, but how well did you move the ball and score? 296 yards, 16 points. I don’t think anyone here believes that 16 points is going to get you a win against Oregon. Oregon has piled up WAY more points than USC this season.
So…. I wish I break down formations and package for you, but I can’t. I can just relate on-field performances and legitimate comparisons.
You guys are in for a nightmare on Saturday.
GO DUCKS.
by StuckeyDuck on Oct 20, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are in for a nightmare on Saturday.
You’re right – I’m in pieces trying to decide how the celebrate the win…
Good one.
In 2007 I celebrated the win by going to that burger stand in the ‘U’-District (I think its called that). The big one with the long row of walk up windows. It was pretty fun. Lots of sad Huskies in a long line for some good grub – strength in numbers I suppose.
Good times.
Want to hear what Husky fans think
There has been a lot of talk on here as well as on AtQ about how Oregon is going to try and shut down Locker and Co. I truly think, nobody really knows, and we’ll find out on Saturday how it all shakes out.
But in all seriousness, how is UW going to try and stop Oregon?
I haven’t seen anything from the UW defense that scares me. Your LB’s are ok, but they are on the field for almost every down, and it almost seems like Holt is scared to play any nickel coverage at all. With Oregon’s speed on O, is that a smart move. And your secondary (minus Trufant) doesn’t scare me at all. When we add in that your defense has a total of 12 sacks all year, your front 7 is not putting a lot of pressure on QBs. As much as people are saying that “Oregon hasn’t faced a QB like Locker this season”… sure, but UW hasn’t faced an offense like Oregon’s either. The only possible comparison was against ND and UW gave up 37 points and 530 total yards to them (with a QB on one foot). So I ask again, what is UW going to throw at Oregon that will contain them enough to even give Locker a chance to keep the game close???
In all seriousness, I’m all ears.
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That’s the money question Matt. Obviously our defense isn’t much better this year than it has been in the past, with a couple of important exceptions:
Points allowed:
2008: 38.6
2009: 27.9
Turnover margin:
2008: -1.42
2009: +0.14
While the Huskies D has been giving up big yardage between the 20’s, they’ve stiffened considerably close to the goal line, frequently limiting teams to FG attempts, and thus lowering their points allowed. It’s still not good at 27.9 per game, and Oregon probably scores more than that this Saturday.
The other factor is turnover margin – the Huskies are in the positive this year rather than a big negative last year. A big part of that is turnovers gained – so far this year the Huskies have generated 1.7 turnovers gained per game by their defense, as opposed to just 0.8 per game last year.
If the Huskies can continue this trend – generate a few turnovers, stiffen within the red zone to limit Oregon TD’s, they have a chance. I don’t see any way Oregon doesn’t get at least 400 yards on offense, but if the Huskies can limit the points to 27 or less, I think they have a shot.
The big question to me is just how good is the Duck defense, and can Jake & Co. score 28 or more against them? Jake’s going to have to have a big game – make the Ducks pay for some gambles, and use his legs to bust some big plays and to buy himself time to find WR’s get open in broken plays. The running game is going to have to make some plays, though I’m concerned that Polk’s injured shoulder has muted his effectiveness, and I’m not convinced Fogerson can bring the same level of production.
I’d be more surprised by a blowout than a close game in this one.
so what you are saying is you are hoping that a team with a 91% red zone scoring percentage and 68% red zone touchdown percentage suddenly is less effective?
I get it, your D has been good in the red zone, but once again, not against an offense like Oregon’s…
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I have a feeling that redzone scoring won't be an issue...
we rank in the bottom half in redzone trips. LMJ needs a little crease and he’ll be gone.
yes yes yes ...
… because UW has yet to face a real offense this year. USC and LSU can’t run like UO. ND and Idaho can’t pass like UO. Stanford still sucks. We’ve heard this from you already Duck fans. You guys are clearly the best team in the nation and it is amazing that the rest of the country hasn’t caught on.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
no, they ranks us #11 in the country...
they’ve caught on. You have to admit that our offense is predicated on creating one on one battles with the spread – it requires superior athletes to stop it. If Masoli is full go on Saturday…I really think we can put a lot of points on the board.
LOL
Obviously the Duck are pretty good and we have some serious challenges on Saturday…I will give you that.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well ... your passing game doesn't scare me either.
… you add supposition upon supposition, but fail to acknowledge that, despite all of these unimposing characters and schemes, UW has still somehow managed to be in every game this year and to play all of those teams within a single score (including a W over USC which, if memory serves, is something Oregon has not seen in a long long time).
What should be scaring you is the fact that despite this imbalance in stats, somehow someway UW hangs around in games where they are supposedly outmatched. And, at home, where they have only lost once, they have continuously found ways to win close games. The fact that you cannot explain that makes it impossible to prepare for.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I’ll get to your other “suppositions” later, but I wouldn’t consider 2007 a long long time…
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Thankfully
We didn’t have to play them in 2004 and 2005. Ducks would’ve gotten stomped those years (much like everyone else).
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
We played them in 2005, and were stomped 45-13.
That was the game where we led at the half and then let off 45 unanswered in the second half.
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Young Ducks...
History started in 1994.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
In other words the year I was born?
That is after all when the Common Era started.
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You want some facts....
average per play allowed = 6.8!!!! That’s huge
average rushing by opponent per game = 162.4!!!! again huge
average passing allowed per game = 262.1!!!! nothing stellar there
average yards allowed per game = 424.6
average points allowed = 27.9, the amazing stat considering the preceeding
I agree UW has shown the ability to keep games close, and your D could be considered Jeckel and Hyde when it comes to red zone versus non red zone. I do not expect a blow out, but my question still stands, what is UW going to do different to either:
a) change any of these stats versus a good to really good offense
b) slow Oregon down enough to get Locker back on the field
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Ok, I acknowledge it, UW has been in every game this year
the fact that you cannot explain that makes it impossible to prepare for
hell, I guess Holt doesn’t need to prepare at all, he should just make sure Sark is ready to lead a late game winning drive, because UW is going to keep it close, right?
So, what do they do to keep it close? Please explain what I am missing in your D that keeps it close… is it magical? is it smoke and mirrors? I obviously am not seeing what it is, so please help me understand.
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how?
… red zone defense (FG’s not TDs)
… high 3rd down % on offense
… high ratio of “big plays” (plays longer than 10 yds)
… overachieving o-line play (despite what you mother duckers want to believe)
… outstanding LB play
Its all you can do when you aren’t as physically talented as your opponent
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Thank you gekko for the non-sarcastic comment
I am definitely going to add a couple of those as stats to look at during the game, along with turnovers and sacks for both teams
I think UW has the skill and coaching to keep it close. I wonder how much, beside coaching, you think this team is different than the team Oregon faced in game one last year…oh yeah and I don’t discount the fact that UW is at home…that’s a huge factor for your D.
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Maybe you consider it as part of coaching, but the biggest thing to me is attitude. This team expects to win. Last year’s team was in year 4 of a coach that many of the players didn’t like or respect any more and didn’t believe in. This team by and large buys in to Sark and his staff and their schemes, and not only that they play with fire and emotion, things that Ty was poor at cultivating.
The talent last year wasn’t nearly as bad as “0-12” would suggest. It wasn’t great, but that team had the talent to win 5 games, maybe more – if Locker had stayed healthy.
Maybe its my untrained eye, but I don’t see a lot of talent discrepancies between last year and this year for UW. I agree coaching has a lot to do with it…as well as the belief and emotion that winning is possible.
I never once thought UW was worthy of the 0-12 they earned on the field. The players had quit on the coach, and the coaches knew they weren’t going anywhere after that season.
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I think there’s a slight upgrade in talent, mainly due to the fact that this team lost very little in terms of productive Seniors and has added a number of productive Freshmen. Combine that with improvement in the returning players – both natural expected improvement as well as a better strength & conditioning program.
But in general, yes – I don’t think our talent level this year is significantly better than last year.
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Its a falsehood that Ty left the cupboard bare...
… the cupboard in the offensive skill positions was actually left quite full (although young) before a few of our RBs were dismissed by Sark. The WR corps is very deep. Obviously, we have some talent at QB (and I wouldn’t discount our backups). Ty left us some good LBs. However, our deficiencies on both lines and in the secondary are borderline criminal. The other thing you have to consider is that the “talent” that played last year included 11 true freshmen. Many of those players played poorly but not because lack of talent. They’ve now got experience, motivation and new coaching.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
A long long time?
Two years ago?
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I'm not saying UW won't be better this year...
Than the last few years but how can you brag about a team so much that doesn’t even have a winning record?! And the team you actually did beat was Idaho, USC doesn’t even count because they do that every year (Not to mention their backup quarterback started), and the ball hit the ground in the Arizona game so really it shouldn’t count either.
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Oh, what wonderful logic.
Idaho is 6-1 if you haven’t noticed – that’s a decent team. USC doesn’t count? Pretty sure that really is a “W” against the #4 team in the country. Though I’m sure you guys poo-poohed your win against them in ‘07 because “they do that every year”. And no, the ball did not hit the ground vs. Arizona. There wasn’t anything close to definitive proof.
Did I say “tough”? No, I said “decent”. And they are. My point simply being that Idaho this year isn’t the total cakewalk that they normally are. People here grumbled at the time that we only beat them by 19, but as the season goes on it’s becoming clear that Idaho is better than most people assumed.
As a matter of fact, they are the 37th ranked team in the country by AP voters and 38th ranked team in the country by the coaches poll.
I don’t think they’re that good, but this ain’t the typical awful Idaho team.
I wouldn't exactly describe Boise State as tough
They play one tough opponent per year.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Boise State is ranked #5 in the nation.
Tough until proven weak.
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Boise State is a good team, but their only notable win is against you guys. Put them in the Pac-10 and they’d be in the middle of the conference.
I think we can all agree on this.
Though my point stands. I think even the Husky fan can admit Oregon of this week is much different as a team than Oregon of September 3rd. Conversely, I think Washington played arguably their best ball in the LSU game — USC game notwithstanding, though that could be debatable as well.
This is not to say Oregon has necessarily surpassed UW’s level of play in the LSU game. This Oregon team is just astonishingly different from that team of nearly two months ago. It’s the most stark transformation for the better I’ve ever seen in an Oregon team in a matter of two months.
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John - I disagree
… I think Boise St is an exceptionally well coached team that has had five or six straight years of improving talent entering the program. Given the flaws in the other top 5 programs, I’m not sure BSU couldn’t play anyone straight up right now.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
If you want us to believe that Utah is so tough ...
… why can’t Idaho be decent based on actual performance and presence of NFL prospects on the roster (Idaho has three NFL prospects including one guy who is considered one of the best OGs in the country)?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Another question for my fans of purple to the north
How banged up is Chris Polk this week? I heard mention of a shoulder injury…
Is he practicing full speed this week? Are his injuries severe enough to limit his production and playing time?
Also, any word on Locker? He seemed to be favoring his left shoulder in that last series of the ASU game.
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I haven’t seen anything suggesting Polk or Locker aren’t practicing, but then again yesterday was no pads. Just from observation, it didn’t seem like Polk was really himself for most of the game against ASU until that TD run. Maybe that was simply ASU’s strong front-7 keeping him in check, but I suspect his intense running style might be compromised a bit by his shoulder issue.
I doubt any of us will know for sure how Locker is doing health-wise. He’ll play for sure. Whether he’s impacted, hard to know. Many of us suspected Cody Pickett was playing with a shoulder problem in 2003, but he and the coaches would never admit to anything during the season. It was confirmed after the fact, but during the season the official word was that nothing out of the ordinary was wrong.
He separated his shoulder last year
… if you know about that injury, you know that the ligament that supports the clavicle is sometimes torn. When this happens, you can allow the injury to heal without reattaching the ligament. This gets you healed faster, but makes you more susceptible to reinjury. I honestly have no idea how severe Polk’s injury was last year (beyond it being bad enough to knock him out the year), but I do not believe that he had ligament reattachment surgery (I might be wrong). If this is the case, he is more prone to reinjury, but those reinjuries will also heal. The questions are a) can he take the pain when it happens and b) can he keep psychologically focused in terms of playing physical after the first reinjury.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
yeah, he really hasn’t looked like his old self the last couple of games. whereas in the first couple games of the year, he would fight for and get extra yardage almost every time, he seems to go down a little easier (not a lot, he’s still going to be a handful this weekend, and Oregon better wrap him up).
Just didn’t know if there was any press coming out up there about it.
What about Locker??? I’m about 1000% sure that he will play this weekend, but has he or anyone said anything about how he was holding his shoulder at the end of the ASU game?
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Polk
Didn’t look like his old self, huh? Try the fourth quarter, he had a fabulous run bouncing off multiple tacklers and running it in for 30 some yards. He looked great, he might get less reps, but don’t count him out.
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I'm far from counting him out
and I know he had that good run….I wasn’t necessarily talking about that one. Just the number of reps he’s had in the last couple games and how he’s looked when he has gotten the ball… I think if you look at the stats it shows
ASU 12 carries @ 4.2 average
UA 9 carries @ 3.8 average
ND 22 carries @ 6.2 average
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Am I the only person tired of back and forth stats and manipulation of stats already?
Let’s get to the game. I’m jazzed. I’ll be up there this weekend. I assume wear at least three layers?
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Current Weather.com forecast is for mostly cloudy and 55 degrees on Saturday and just a 20% chance of precipitation.
And since this is Seattle, of course what that forecast really means is 42 degrees, gusts up to 30MPH and raining buckets… :)
more back and forth stats and manipulation of stats....enough already
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Actually, kirk is right on
Weather forecasters in Seattle don’t have a clue, especially if it’s more than 8 hours in the future. As a pilot, I deal with weather each and every day, I follow it closer than a weather forecaster, needless to say kirk isn’t twisting anything, his prediction is quite possible.
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All this talk about UW’s grueling schedule should be taken with a grain of salt. Ya, we’ve played ranked teams too, but I guarantee that we could go at least 3-4 with your schedule. Could you go 5-1 with ours?
probably not….
Oklahoma has lost 3 games by a total of 5 points!!!!
I’m sorry, but I hate that sort of logic. It’s your job as a football team to win games. When people tell me that they were only a few plays away from being undefeated or 5 – 2 or 1 – 5, I fie it under the “but you didn’t category”. All that you say by saying you were a few plays away from being 5 – 2 is that you can’t close out football games and get the win. That’s what it boils down to. One of the most tired arguments in all of sports.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
AGREED. Haha, maybe you guys should be considered 3.5 wins and 3.5 losses.
by NorthWestPower on Oct 20, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
don't hammer the man for answering the question the exact way it was asked.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Head to head is all that matters now though. In my mind we are better than boise state, but our loss invalidates that claim. Win or lose, I believe we have more talent here at Oregon, but a loss would also invalidate that. We have a lot to lose, and the Huskies have a lot to gain.
Could be a real trap game.
How is this a trap game?
We are coming of a bye week and facing a hated rival. Pretty sure no one in the state of Oregon is looking past a much improved UW team. Second most tired topic in sports: trap games.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Trap Game
I think it could be a trap game for Oregon.
I base that on the fact that Oregon has won five games in a row and Washington wasn’t really compettive in any of those five games. That can breed complacency as well as over confidence…tough to say how that will manifest till the teams hit the field. I do know that Oregon (the players not the fans) doesn’t take UW as seriously as they once did because of the thumpings they have doled out the past five years.
Bye weeks can work for you and against you as far as intensity goes. Bye weeks are good for healing, recruiting, and giving younger players a chance to show what they can do. Bye weeks can also stunt momentum.
I think it is given that Masoli will start…how mobile will he be on a gimpy knee? How sharp will he be after missing playing time?
This is a game Oregon mentally had circled as a win before the season started. They really can’t get the 0-12 Washington out of their mind going into this one no matter what the Huskies have done so far this season. Will they have the proper respect for thier opponent this week.
All these factors form the bacground needed to create a trap game situation.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You are reaching really hard here, John
“I do know that Oregon doesn’t take UW as seriously as they once did because of the thumpings they have doled out in the past 5 years”. Huh? You know that how? If that were true then what about the thumping we gave you last year? 4 years of thumpings and we were worried, but now that its 5 straight our players will just rest easy?
I think you mean “I HOPE Oregon doesn’t take UW as seriously as they once did, but I don’t have any reason to actually believe that is the case.”
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“Bye weeks can stunt momentum.” Sure, I guess so. But Oregon historically plays awesome after bye weeks (13-2 under Belotti if I remember right). You know what can really be dangerous – the week BEFORE a bye. How do I know that? I don’t, but pulling weird bits of knowledge out of your ass seems to be the thing to do here.
“They can’t get 0-12 Washington out of their mind….”
I know I sure can’t. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I think the Ducks have learned a few things...
That can breed complacency as well as over confidence…
The Boise State game should fall into that category. They were unprepared and complacent. I highly doubt that will happen again.
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
because beating UO would make the UW season
… while beating UW is considered by the other side as nothing more than a pedestrian occurrence. Take into account some of the injuries on the UO side, the fact that it is on the road and the fact that there seems to be very little respect as a whole for what UW will bring to the field and you have VOILA a trap game.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
True, please excuse the cliche’. However, isn’t the pac-10 all about these type of games though. Oregon and arizona in 2007, USC and Stanford/Or. State. We pac-10ers just kill e/o in seemingly easy conference games. Yes I would call this a trap game.
by NorthWestPower on Oct 20, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no way Oregon v. Arizona was a trap game
We thought Dixon would be fine on his ACL, turned out he wasn’t and Brady Leaf faked getting injured to get out of his horrible performance. I just don’t like the term or cliche at all.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 20, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We were cruising until Dixon went out that game.
Then it was like a switch was flipped for our entire team.
Fine on a torn ACL?
That was a risky move from the get go.
I will say if Dixon hadn’t have been injured Oregon would have been national champions that year. I think that was the best offense I have ever had the displeasure of watching.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how many clever
Duck hunt signs will be at the game this weekend.
Luckily i won’t be able to join you and your hospitable fans this time.
I’d rather not have 75 year old men tell me i’m a terrible person… and that happened at a MARINER game while i was wearing a UO shirt.. ridiculous. Go ducks!
That was probably just the dad from shitmydadsays.
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Autzen is no picnic
I have been to countless games at both stadiums. Washington is much more hospitable than Oregon. In fact it would be a lot more hospitable if there weren’t so many problems for visiting fans at Autzen. Oregon fans reap what they sew on the road.
so we hate you more than you hate us
I guess we have to kick your ass for another decade to get your attention. :) So much for the trap game theory…
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You do hate us more than we hate you...
That has been coming through loud and clear for some time….lol.
The thing is I have so many great friends who went to Oregon and even played for Oregon it is tough for me to actually hate the Ducks. I felt sorry for thos guys for many years. Do they feel sorry for me now…not a bit…lol
by John Berkowitz on Oct 21, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I do, I feel sorry you're still a Husky fan...(smiles)
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I feel sorry for Jake Locker
He could have played in the perfect system for him….and he decided to go to Washington… MISTAKE
You’re right, he should’ve played in a spread and then had no shot at an NFL career. Instead, he finds himself tutored by Steve Sarkisian and Doug Nussmeier and is suddenly being considered as a potential 1st round pick as a QB after less than a season of their coaching him in a more pro-style offense. Poor guy, he could’ve had the same NFL prospects as Dennis Dixon…
Ummmmm Dixon has a Superbowl Ring...just saying
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And...
SO does the trainer on that team, i believe they got the same amount of playing time!
by DAWGFATHER91 on Oct 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Dixon plays for the Steelers
Sanchez would be a third stringer on that team. Oregon has put a lot of quarterbacks into the NFL in the past decade. Okay, so none of them have become the next Dan Fouts…
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Oregon hasn’t had many productive NFL QB’s in recent years.
Akili Smith? Total bust.
Joey Harrington? Started quite a few games and was the best NFL QB Oregon put out since Fouts.
Kellen Clemens? Got a shot, didn’t do well, washed out quickly.
Dennis Dixon? Too soon to tell, but hasn’t gotten any meaningful playing time yet.
Granted, over the same period of time the Huskies haven’t done any better, but I’d be surprised if that didn’t change under Sark.
you forgot about AJ Feeley – career backup QB
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Lets just say Sark's record is not all rosy sunshine and cherry blossoms too
John David Booty – who?
Matt Leinart – can’t beat out an 80 year old Warner
Mark Sanchez – looks good…so far
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um, I would probably attest that more to Norm Chow, but ok I’ll give you Carson Palmer… want to take credit for Aaron Corp too???
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Sark was the QB coach for Palmer for his Junior and Senior seasons, the seasons where he really turned his career around and became a Heisman Trophy winner. So yeah, I think Sark deserves some credit there.
Corp? Yeah, he didn’t show well. He also is now coached by another guy.
I suppose you could criticize Sark for not developing Mustain more in his time there…
I think Sark has been a good to really good QB coach (with a lot of really really good recruited talent in there too). I’ll be very interested to see how “his” reccruits at UW do and how they progress.
Should make for a number of interesting fun years of debate between our 2 schools…like we needed more reason to debate each other :-)
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Indeed. We’ll see probably sooner than we think if Locker leaves for the NFL this year. Keith Price is an interesting prospect, and of course everyone has heard of Nick Montana, but neither one has quite the same physical toolset as does Locker.
Tedford had quite the run of QB’s he’d developed, but he’s hit a bit of a dry spell lately. As a Husky fan, I obviously hope Sark avoids a similar dry spell.
Sark is better than Kiffykins
I’ll give you that.
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Dixon has about as much chance at meaningful NFL minutes as a QB as does Isaiah Stanback. It’s possible, but pretty unlikely. I’d wager a fair sum that both guys are thought of mostly as possible “Wildcat” style change of pace guys.
You can’t really dispute the contention that spread-option QB’s have not had much success in the NFL thus far…
I can't argue that . . .
and I love the spread offense. Locker is going to make at least 50 times more money than Dixon in the NFL, thanks mostly to Sark.
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"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I must be missing the "sarcasm" button like crazy here
by DAWGFATHER91 on Oct 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong but...
We’ve had a fair share of QB’s go into the NFL and not make it into the Hall, and i’m not one saying Locker is ready for the NFL infact i’m on the oposite end saying he needs a lot of refinement, touch, decision making, clock management. But on the topic of systems and what has worked for QB’s in the next level, heck you can take a running back and have him throw the ball 10 times a game and be sufficient (Dolphins) in a spread offense. You could also be Joey Harrington, all the makings with no results.But recent history shows all about the systems and what works
by DAWGFATHER91 on Oct 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Purdue ran a spread offense under Tiller...
Brees, Orton, et al. are showing pretty well. I don’t know what Rivers played in but NC State is spread all the way right now.
Rivers was coached by Norm Chow; I don’t think they were a spread team at that time.
Brees is a freak of nature with his accuracy – have you seen the sports science episode where they measured his accuracy? I also think he played under center some of the time and not just exclusively in the shotgun.
A spread that is mostly passing based is less of an issue for NFL development than a spread that is mostly about option football.
kliff kingsbury, sonny cumbie, bj symons, tim couch
and every other qb that mike leach has coached beg to differ
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by WhiteRabbit on Oct 21, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t say the passing-oriented spreads were advantageous for NFL development, just that they were better than option running oriented spreads.
generally i would agree
but before the day of the Wildcat, Pat White wouldn’t have been drafted nearly as high as he was, and Dixon would probably be playing baseball
Under winter skies
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And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Oct 21, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. If the Wildcat plays continue to be successful, I think we’ll finally see the NFL start incorporating some option football into their gameplans on something other than a very rare, gimmick basis. And spread option QB’s will get more love from the NFL.
I think the Wildcat is the main reason that Isaiah Stanback has a job right now. It’s too bad really – had he been tutored by Sark his whole career, he might be a legit NFL QB right now. His physical skills are similar to Locker’s…
i thought Stanback returned kicks
withe Woody Dantzler? anyone remember him?
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Oct 22, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Playing quarterback in the NFL is a crapshoot...
Locker will get his chance and chance of success is, well, who knows? Great physical tools don’t always translate to the NFL? Smart guys usually do the best.
Given that this is the first year in his career, H.S. and college, where he’s played in a mostly pro-style offense focused on passing the ball, he’s done quite well. And it bodes well for his future. There’s of course no guarantees of success in the NFL, but the fact he’s gone from “well, he’ll probably get drafted but who knows at what position” to “he might be the top QB drafted if he came out early this year” speaks volumes to his progression in a short period of time.
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This is why there has not been one good Oregon Quarterback…. Thank you for explaining
by dawgfan4life on Oct 21, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Akili Smith is about as dumb as a bag rocks...
he took the wonderlic test and somehow got a negative score. I imagine it went something like the Forrest Gump entry exam but I don’t know who he had to screw to get in.
I won’t dispute that the spread option does not prepare guys for the NFL… I will however contend that guys get a longer look as an NFL prospect when they play well in the spread than they would had they struggled in a pro style offense.
For example, Dixon would not be in the NFL (IMO) had he not put up the kind of numbers he did in the spread.
I think Locker is an anomaly of sorts with his ability to run either offenses well.
oh BTW, I was joking about Dixon and the superbowl ring… DAMNIT, where is my sarcasm buton
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Yahoo project Jake as #1 on their big board
Yeah, sounds like a huge multi-million dollar mistake. Dennis Dixon, on the other hand, sure made the right decision and has a brilliant and lucrative NFL career ahead of him.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Dixon was never going to be NFL grade...
In fact, I really don’t care if we recruit another quarterback destined for the NFL. The Barkley’s of this world couldn’t run our offense. Dixon had the potential to take us to the NC game. That is all that matters.
This is exactly the take I've always had.
I don’t get the half-chubs other fans get for slow white guys at QB.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Yeah, how awful it would be to have guys like Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez or Matt Barkley. Or Drew Brees, Ben Rothlisberger, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning…can I stop now?
In the current Oregon offense their abilities would be largely negated.
This would be my point. Would you disagree or agree?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
I agree. But that’s not what your previous post was suggesting. For the offense Oregon is running, they’re getting the right guys. For other offenses, “slow white guys” work great. And why wouldn’t fans of USC be thrilled to get guys like Palmer, Leinart, Sanchez & Barkley?
Sorry, I wasn't very clear as I re-read it now.
“I don’t get” should also be read as “I do not tend to possess” the half-chubs other fans get. I totally understand if it works for your offense – I think Ropert [sic] would have been nice at UW. Dennis Dixon would have been too, as much as it pains me to say.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Dixon would’ve been a great fit at the UW under the previous staff, and IIRC, he seriously considered the UW before choosing Oregon. However, Kelly clearly has a much better grasp on the spread option offense than Tim Lappano did, so Dixon made the right choice.
UW actually passed on Dixon
They thought he was a lock to play baseball. After being burned by a couple other baseball/QB types they passed. Dumb move.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 22, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Grady Sizemore as well I believe
Tui made it into that year’s EA game though. Helped my UW dynasty quite a bit.
New Post....
Why don’t we have a trophy and name for this game yet! I am pushing for the Uncivil War name that i saw on another Blog, now we need ideas on a trophy!
I'm not sure I would be for the Uncivil War...too much like the civil war
might as well name it the Columbia River Rivalry then…or the Border War.
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I like the Uncivil War
The Columbia River Rivalry is too similar to the Red River Rivalry.
How about we get really creative:
The Border Brouhaha
I-5 Fracas
Timber Tiff
As long as we’re stealing rivalry names, how about the World’s Largest Outdoor Microbrew Party?
Time to go watch a Husky loss live for the second time this season.
I support Sonja Newcombe for Heisman.
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 21, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
(expletive) I just realized Doug Nussmeier was the o coordinator...
I grew up next to the Nussmeier household. I can’t have a reason not to hate the Huskies.
thanks for all the replies from my post...BUT
how about all of those great UW QB’s in the NFL…? Oh wait.. yeah so before you talk shit about us… take a look in the mirror… Merely my point was Jake Locker in Oregon’s system would be stellar. But mostly you just have me angry due to your really retarded posts about UO qb’s … Mark Brunell? Congrats! a real barn burner. It isn’t as though you guys are a NFL backfield factory… or any position for that matter.
Warren Moon (HOF)
Chris Chandler (two time Pro Bowler)
Mark Brunell (three time Pro Bowler)
Damon Huard (decent backup career)
Brock Huard (big time HS player never really panned out)
Cody Pickett (NFL washout)
Marques Tuiasosopo (decent backup career, injury bug)
Isaiah Stanback (time will tell)
And to defend Mark, he was a solid QB for quite some time, it’s only been the last 3-4 years he’s fallen off the map. I’m too lazy to research OU QB’s or I would do a head to head.
Some of you duck fans shock me with your lack of historical perspective. Let me burst your bubble.
UW leads the all time Pac 10 list in both QBs who started games in the NFL and number of starts. More than USC. More than UCLA. More than Oregon.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Well this is the Poop thread...
Nothing wrong with ignoring a few facts when trying to have fun.
That is why we have this specific thread each year…so everyone can have fun with each other.
I have plenty of fantastic friends who are Oregon fans….celebrating the contest without the hate that has been associated with it makes it a lot more fun.
It is OK to hate the Huskies or the Ducks…it isn’t OK to take that hate to an unhealthy individual level…I mean that is moronic and the cooler heads on both sides know it.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 22, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Six Pro Football Hall of Famers
Only a handful of schools have more than Oregon. Washington isnt even close.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
WASHINGTON FANS:
WASHINGTON FANS: I think most new generation (I’m an ’83 baby) Duck fans for the most part respect your program. I was in 6th grade, in the stands when Kenny Wheaton turned our program around on "The Pick" and have always seen Washington as a football school, and a much respected one. Me personally, I loathe Oregon State and wish nothing but utter failure and misery on those rats. Now, UDUB, well… I understand from my elders I should hate you guys more. I’m a sophisticated, well educated and traveled guy, and back here from my perspective in NYC or DC I’m ok with Washington. I certainly don’t like your program, and enjoy your 0-12 seasons, but I’m not pulling against you guys every Saturday. At the sports bar in midtown during the Notre Dame-Washington game, I was the loudest guy in the place rooting for the Dogs.
With that said, the old time arrogance reeks from a lot of your fans base. Hey- I’m the 1st to admit Oregon fans can be annoying and fail to keep things in perspective. But the attitude that we won some games back in the 80s and early 90s, when the Pac 10 consisted of USC/UCLA and that was it, and now fast forward to 2009 it makes me feel like Washington is now the Notre Dame of the west. Sitting in their dusty trophy room, bellowing how everyone else stinks and the guys now winning still are losers in their eyes.
Things have changed Fuskies. Your recruiting base of southern CA and a few here and there in Northern CA can no longer be swept up like the good old days. You’ve got way too many programs pillaging down there, and your little old getaway in Seattle is no longer the sexy spot like it was 25 yrs ago. Your outdated stadium can’t be renovated because you have no cash, and your donor base not able too while the state legislator come to blows about it, and the emergence of teams like Boise St nearby hurts you even more. Things have changed, and while you maybe be in a much bigger metropolitan area than Eugene, and have some accolades our program has yet to achieve, those will not help you in the coming years. Accept it and deal with it. It’s 2009 not 1989.
Ducks over Fuskies by two touchdowns. 300yds on the ground for Oregon… again.
by WashingtonDCduck on Oct 22, 2009 8:49 AM PDT reply actions
old time arrogance?
… that’s funny since the Duck fans on this thread are arguing that this game will be a blowout and that UW doesn’t have “talent” while the UW fans are acknowledging that Oregon is superior but that we believe we should be able to keep the game close. Who has the arrogant position in that debate?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
YOUR COMMENT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL?! READ MY POST AGAIN
II was speaking to the fact that every Washington fan I run across (even back where I live in NYC/DC) all they talk about is the glory days. I’m humble enough to recognize that and give acknowledgment where it’s deserved. My post lauded nothing about a whooping of UDUB. I said Oregon will win by TWO TD’s, not an ass whooping. I gave respect to the 2009 Washington team, because a 3-4 team reeling, hosting the a Top 15 team you would think on paper it would be a much larger margin of victory. (throw in the rilvary, UDUB’s improved play on all sides of the ball, ect… that’s why I only said 2 TDs).
I did say we’d run for 300yds, and that I’m sticking too.
Re-Read my post Fusky.
by WashingtonDCduck on Oct 22, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the thing – your perception of how the Pac-10 has “changed” from the glory days of Don James to now is just that – perception. It’s not really true. Oh, the teams that are up and down have changed some, but the overall difficulty of the conference? Not really any different.
USC was the giant back then, they are the giants now. Even more so.
UCLA was consistently good then, they are mediocre now. Cal was mediocre then, they are consistently good now – basically they’ve swapped places.
Washington was right there with USC as the top dogs in the conference. We’ve essentially swapped places with Oregon.
WSU was up and down then. They are currently down, but only a few seasons removed from being very up.
Arizona was up and down then. They are up and down now. Same with Stanford.
ASU was usually good, but with some losing seasons mixed in. Same thing now.
Biggest difference is that Oregon State has gone from awful to quite good.
Overall, I don’t think the conference is much better now than it was then. In fact, the Pac-10 in the ’80’s was often thought of as the best conference in the country, consistently producing the most NFL talent. Now of course all we hear about is the SEC and how great they are every year, “clearly” the best conference in the country.
Bosie State’s rise is nice, but they rarely compete with the UW for recruits, so their success has almost no downside for the Huskies.
I will say this – the biggest thing that has changed from then to now is Phil Knight. His money has basically eliminated the funding gap between Oregon and Washington, and the facilities differences between the two schools is essentially nil. That will tip slightly when Husky Stadium is renovated (and it will happen – the question is just the extent of the renovation and the date it starts), but as long as Knight is active in Oregon athletics, they will be among the best equipped schools on the West Coast.
UW can make it back to prominence...
but it’s not the foregone conclusion that many seem to think. Sark’s turnaround has been nice…but Tedford did the same thing and they haven’t won a Pac-10 championship. I keep hearing Husky fans on the radio and such saying that we don’t have any hardware, namely SOFTY. Of course, forget about 2001 when won the fiesta bowl and trounced Colorado or the multiple 10 win seasons this decade. In fact, I heard Husky fans proclaiming that a Pac-10 trophy would be their’s before we ever get one. If Locker leaves for the NFL this year, there will be a regression.
Oregon is going to be relevant for a long time. We whiffed on Pryor and Brown the last couple of season but we will land the big fish – Lattimore is sersiously considering Oregon. We are getting recruits around the country as I detailed in another post. We still are getting the peices we want for this offense. We are getting depth at quarterback for this system. We have built some great depth at wide receiver (best pool of talent yet) that needs to be developed. The oline recruits are just amazing…we are getting top prep talent that we haven’t ever seen. Our db and linebacker recruiting his off the chart. If we can just keep some of the top tier dline talent (lots of attrition), we can put this thing together.
Hey, nothing is a foregone conclusion with Sark. This could all be a flash in the pan. He might turn out to be great, but bolt for USC in a couple years if Carroll leaves. You never know. But you can’t blame this fan base for soaking up any and all optimism after what we’ve been through. Duck fans (at least Duck fans that know history didn’t begin in the year 1994) ought to know that as well as anyone.
When you guys beat your chests about the success you’ve had, do you really expect us to not point out that we’ve had greater success over a longer period of time? Unless you guys win a National Championship, we’ll always lord that over you, just like you’ll always laugh at our 0-12. We’ll always point out our much greater success getting to and winning the Rose Bowl. That’s just how these things work, and you’d do exactly the same thing if you were in our shoes.
Will Oregon be relevant for a long time? Most likely, or at least as long as they are well-funded. Phil Knight has been a godsend to your program. For as long as you have strong booster support from him or others to take his place, you’ll have the resources to be a high-level program. But there are natural advantages that the UW enjoys over Oregon, and those are unlikely to change, and if the UW and Oregon have roughly equivalent coaches, the UW will eventually come out ahead because of those inherent advantages.
Kelly has done a nice job rebounding from the BSU game. It will be interesting to see how he does long-term – can he build off the success under Bellotti, or will he be another coach that follows a legend and falls short?
YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU WOULDNT WANT SOME OF THE BSU GUYS ON YOUR TEAM THIS YEAR?!?! LOL
"Best equipped on the west coast"… dude, you need to wake up man. Your comment is either through purple lenses or you just don’t know college athletics. I’ve heard Mel Kiper and others who know the pro game and college game intimately call Oregon’s facilities rivaled to majority of NFL facilities. I think we warrant a little more respect than the west coasts finest facilities, but tops in the nation along with some other superpowers. NO NO NO, I’m not saying we are up to par in terms of tradition, current on the field products, or last 3-5 year performance, but nobody tops our facilities- we are even with a number of college football finest. You make me laugh when you state Washington and Oregon’s are equal… no way man. Sorry. Not even close. A beautiful view of Lake Washington yes, but let’s look at the whole picture.
Lastly, the very recruits Boise State is getting right now YOU CANT GET, or are just beginning to grab the interest of! Look at their current ranking, their win total the last few years, come on… get a clue! YES, you’ve landed some nice recruits in the past 12 months but comon’, seriously…. Look at what Boise State has done in the past 5 yrs alone and where you have been. Boise State being good hurts us all in the Pac 10, OREGON too! We don’t want that little old hick school building a football power in Hicksville Boise. They are recruiting 3 / 4 star guys that I know you’d like to have against us come Saturday at 3:30.
Lastly, I do respect Washington Football. I may not like it, but I do recognize the animal it once was. Will it come back, certainly. The Pac 10 is a better conference when UDUB is relevant. Our rivalry is much better of course. I HATE OREGON STATE, I MEAN HATE. You as well to Wazzu… so we can agree on that. They are the step children here. I hope you guys can get to a bowl game this year and let’s see what 2010 bring. In the meantime, we hold our destiny in our hands and I’m personally pulling for a Penn State / Oregon ’94 Rose Bowl rematch. Most Duck fans would knock me silly for saying that, but whatever, I’m a new generation Duck that hates OSU and dislikes you guys a lot but I don’t care if you win a few ballgames.
by WashingtonDCduck on Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Oregon has better weight room facilities, I’ll give them that. They rank among the best in the country, but nobody tops Texas – those guys are ridiculous. Add Ohio State and much of the SEC, and those are the programs everyone is chasing in terms of facilities.
But other than the weight room, really not much difference that matters. Maybe Oregon’s indoor facility is a little fancier than the UW’s, but not enough to matter that much. UW has better academic tutoring facilities with recent opening of the Conibear shellhouse. Autzen is more recently renovated and you have the fancy locker rooms, but the UW updated their locker rooms too when they re-did Hec Ed, so as far as the players are concerned, very little difference.
The weight room is a big one, and I’ll give you that – it’s the 2nd most important thing that the UW has to upgrade, next to the Husky Stadium renovation.
Regarding recruiting and Boise State, I’ll be polite and simply say you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. We can’t get the guys Boise State is after? Laughably wrong. It’s the other way around. Kirby Moore of Prosser is the only guy in the last several years I can recall that the UW offered that chose Boise State instead.
Now, you can justifiably argue whether the UW had been targeting the right guys under Willingham, and it’s certainly true that Boise has been doing a much better job developing the players they got and getting them to fit their system than the UW was under Ty. That era is now over.
Do yourself a favor and go look at the guys Boise has landed since 2002 and compare their rankings with the ones the UW has landed in the same time frame. And pay special attention this year and the quality and quantity of recruits Sark already has committed.
DC Duck
That was a pretty good post and it would have been 100% true at the end of last season.
Everything runs in cycles and the Duck cycle started with the Pick in 94.
Washington started a new cycle upwards this season. it won’t all happen overnight but we do have the staff and resouces to turn it around much quicker than people think.
I think its NEAT
that you have a lot of starts in the NFL, most of which coming from Moon-Brunell… but it doesnt mean they have all been successful.. how many super bowls?? how many wins?
I’m not even comparing to oregon, clearly you have more. But really to talk shit about our QB’s in the pros, when brock huard and Marcus Toui and Stanback make your short list…
wrong again.
the UW also leads the all time pac 10 list in numbers of players who have started NFL games.
Now, I could see why a ducker might be a little bitter given the fact that they’ve failed to produce any legit NFL QBs since the days of Dan Fouts and Chris Miller. The fact that you harbor what is viewed as the second biggest QB bust in the history of the draft probably still rubs you the wrong way.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Look at all these shining stars
Washington: Warren Moon 203, Chris Chandler 152, Mark Brunell 150, Steve Pelluer 30, Damon Huard 27, Hugh Millen 25, Billy Joe Hobert 17, Brock Huard 4, Tom Flick 3, Cary Conklin 2, Cody Pickett 2, Marques Tuiasosopo 2…………
a whole lot of success in this bunch.
Lets look at the guy who is second on that list.. Chandler who had a whopping 7 years of throwing more TD’s than INT’s… Steve Pelluer also burning things up with 27 career TD’s and 29 INTs… lookin good
Are we playing this game?
… since your #3 guy on that list is Joey Heisman and your #5 is Akili Smith! Akili was awesome. Such great value as the #3 pick in the NFL draft. What a star you guys produced.
I would venture a guess that our list of QBs is just slightly more accomplished in the professional ranks than your little list.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
like i said sure you have more qb's
and better qb’s overall in the pros than Oregon.. but thats literally like saying our shit stinks worse… congrats, you have 2 legit pro qb’s all time.. 3 MAYBE
...oh and there was success
Warren Moon is a hall of famer. Chris Chandler led what had previously been a terrible Falcons team to the Super Bowl, Brunell was a three time pro-bowler who led an expansion team to a couple of AFC Championship rings, Huard has a couple of Super Bowl rings, and Millen hung around the league for 10 years after being a mid-round pick.
That is pretty a pretty good clip for just about any school in any conference.
Funny thing about facts, they hurt when you don’t have a clue about them.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
The whole QB pissing match is dumb to even argue. UDub has way better history and way more successful NFL QBs.
While, I think it’s also completely dumb to say spread QBs don’t succeed in the NFL (Sample size anyone?).
Oregon’s QB might have more recent relevance in the NFL, but even that relevance is minimal. Washington holds a much better resume on QB success in the NFL.
The importance of that for college is negligible. It’s just velocity to help bruise one’s chest as they pound it.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
no one said spread QBs can't succeed in the NFL...
… only that Oregon spread QBs have not :)
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I was just thinking it could be a record
by John Berkowitz on Oct 22, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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