The Monday Morning Wash
I am sure the players coaches, fans, and media made good use of the 24 hour rule this weekend. There was a lot of venting going on in the Husky Nation after the team suffered a loss because the coaching staff made an ill conceived gamble that ended up losing the game.
Coach Sarkisian was up front and took responsibility for it immediately after the game in the press conference and the radio show. According to the media he was visibly upset over what had happened. For Husky fans that act of contrition is refreshing. After four years of Tyrone Willingham, two of Keith Gilbertson, and four of Rick Neuheisel it wasn't like we hadn't seen a coaching staff screw up and cost the team a game. What was refreshing is the coach simply admitted his error without any BS and vowed to better in the future.
The firestorm of dissapointment shifted quickly to defensive coordinator Nick Holt whose unit gave up the improbable 50 yard TD pass on the next play. What puts Holt under the magnifying glass is his observed conduct on the sidelines and a supposed no show at the press conference after the game. An article by Ted Miller of ESPN lambasted Holt for getting a 15 yard penalty earlier in the game for once again going out of the coaching box. It also criticized him for cursing at camera men on the sidelines and for the way he was chewing out his players. The crux of the story was that Holt needs to be more accountable for his actions.
Washington defensive coordinator Nick Holt needs to apologize. First to his team, then to Huskies fans.
When the Huskies defense had a massive breakdown that allowed Arizona State to score a game-winning touchdown on a 50-yard pass with 5 seconds remaining to win 24-17, the responsible party -- Holt -- failed to show up for postgame interviews and tell reporters, "We were out of position. That's entirely my fault. I need to coach them better so it won't happen again."Meanwhile, Holt was seen berating a player and a television cameraman, neither of whom signed a three-year, $2.1 million contract to make sure his players know where to be in situations such as a late-game prevent defense when only a deep pass beats you.
I have been reading Ted Miller ever since he was a beat reporter at the Seattle PI. Ted knows college football well and is usually 100% spot on. Ted just happened to be at the game Saturday night because he currently lives in Scottsdale, Arizona. So he wasn't some East Coast journalist taking pot shots from afar by assembling an opinion based on watching TV and reading the AP feed.
Ted however got at least one important part of the story wrong that was pointed out last night by KJR's "Softy" Dave Mahler. First of all the 15 yard penalty wasn't called on Coach Holt. The penalty was actually called on someone named Grey Ruegamer. Grey is a newer Husky asst. strength coach who was cut by the Seahawks as a player earlier this year.
Ruegamer seems to be quite the character. This is what we found out about him from his bio in wikipedia.
Ruegamer has a Basque family friend and has helped the friend castrate Lamb with his teeth.
Ruegamer is a prankster and is also known for showing up to Friday practices in costume. He keeps all his toenail clippings and callous shavings in a cup all season long. If anyone messes with him and he deems it necessary, he will dump the cup in personal belongings of theirs.
So let me get this straight while trying to keep a straight face. We have a guy on the sidelines who went to ASU, who is now an asst. strength coach at UW, after washing out of the NFL who castrates baby farm animals with his teeth?If I was a Pac 10 official I would think twice about throwing a flag on this guy.
If I was Steve Sarkisian I would think twice about having this idiot on the sidelines and around my players. Castrating baby farm animals with your teeth? Now that is exactly the type of visual image we want associated with Husky football...not....!
Getting back to Holt the next accusation by Miller is that Holt skipped the press conference after being requested to appear by the media. That one unfortunately could be true. According to Chris Fetters of Dawgman who was at the stadium till 3:00 AM Holt wasn't going to talk to anyone after the game no matter how many requests the PR staff received.
Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times said he never requested an interview with Holt.
As for Holt not being available to the media, I can't say whether he was requested last night --- he wasn't by me in part since I had such tight deadlines I only had time for a couple of interviews and at the time we had to put in our requests (early in the fourth quarter) I didn't think I'd have the time or the pressing need for it. I know Holt has been requested after most of the other games and has not been available to the print/web media (I think he's done a couple of radio interviews). But he does meet with us on Wednesdays and he has been available for all of those.
Football is an emotional game. There is no more emotional time than after a tough loss. For years the Husky Nation has asked and prayed for an emotional coaching staff that gives 110%. Even with the errors that were made on Saturday night we have had our wish granted. This is a young and smart coaching staff that will only get better. They aren't going to fall into the pattern of making repeated mistakes.
Coaches make mistakes. Pete Carroll made plenty of them in a loss to Washington. He made enough to possibly cost USC the game against Notre Dame on Saturday. What Pete has in his favor is a group of athletes that are usually talented enough to recover from almost any mistake and win a football game. Washington isn't quite there yet but considerable help in the talent department is on the way in 2010.
As for 2009 most of us should cut coach Holt a break. We prayed for fire and emotion. We got fire and emotion. What exactly do you think has put us in a position to win five of six football games this season in the last minute? It certainly hasn't been an overwhelming advantage in the talent area.
The coaches of course need to do better. They know they need to do better. What happened on Saturday night isn't on the players. It is on the coaching staff and this coaching staff knows it and is accountable from the head man on down. Holt chose not to show up to take his medicine from the media. Now he gets painted as the bad guy. As Dave Mahler is saying is that really a fair and accurate portrayal?
I think Holt made a mistake by not showing up. All he had to do was issue the same "Mea Culpa" that Sarkisian did and leave for the plane. Holt screwed up just as much as Sarkisian did. He is 100% in charge of the defense and he personally failed his team on Saturday. Washington had three timeouts remaining. If cooler heads had prevailed with five seconds remaining they could have taken one of those time outs to make extra sure the defense was lined up correctly and every single player understood his responsibility. UW didn't do that and it was another in a series of mistakes that cost them the game in the last minute and thirty seconds.
Holt has a lot to think about between now and Wednesday when he is supposed to speak with media. If he mentions bullets or personal deficiencies there is going to be a firestorm. He has already been given two passes by fans and media for those type of comments. Holt needs to man up and take full responsibility. I think he will do that.
I think he chose not to speak on Saturday simply because the emotion and pain were so great. Jake Locker didn't speak after the Notre Dame loss for the same reasons. The difference of course is Jake is 22 working for free and Nick Holt is 47 with a $2.1 million contract. He needs to show more maturity to go along with the tremendous fire and emotion. There has to be a balance and he has to find it to take himself and the Huskies to the next level.
Around the Pac Ten
California 45 UCLA 26
Jahvid Best made a 93-yard touchdown run and caught a 51-yard scoring pass, and California got back on track after two tough losses with a dynamic first half in a 45-26 victory over UCLA on Saturday. I expected the UCLA defense to do better in this one. You have to hand it to Cal. They put their bye week to good use.
USC 34 Notre Dame 27
Jimmy Clausen threw three incomplete passes into the end zone in the closing seconds, and No. 6 USC held on Saturday for a 34-27 victory, its eighth straight win against Notre Dame. the more I see of clausen the more I like him. The more I see of USC it makes me thing the Trojans could lose a couple more before the end of the season.
Arizona 43 Stanford 38
Nic Grigsby raced 57 yards for a touchdown with 2:57 to go, and Arizona rallied from a 15-point deficit to defeat Stanford 43-38 on Saturday night. The Wildcats ended a wild night in the desert by repelling the Cardinal on fourth-and-10 at Arizona's 17, with cornerback Trevin Wade batting down a pass intended for Chris Owusu in the end zone.
Pac 10 Power Ratings
1. Oregon...The Ducks move up to #1 during the bye week. The logic is a week off will aloow them the heal up for the rest of a tough Pac 10 campaign that heads to Seattle this week.
2. USC...The Trojans came oh so close to dropping one against ND on Saturday. The losses of Sarkisan and Holt have been felt this season. Matt Barkley is coming along well but imagine this team with Mark Sanchez. Up next is OSU and the Beavers have had the Trojans number for a couple of years.
3. Oregon State...Getting a bye the week before you play USC is a real good thing.
4. California...After getting rid of some frustration against UCLA the Bears line up against the worst offense and defense in the BCS. Can they break the century mark in this one?
5. Arizona...The Wildcats received a measure of redemption beating Stanford last week. This week they play a team at home they can hammer in UCLA.
6. Stanford...A very tough loss for the Tree. This week they get ASU at home.
7. Arizona State...The Devils were lucky ths week but as Dennis Erickson said maybe it was our turn. Husky fans aren't so sure it was simply luck.
8. Washington...A very tough loss to recover from. UW could have been playing for all the marbles this week at home but coaching mistakes cost them the game. Once again an ESPN College Game Day truck that was scheduled to be in Seattle had to change its destination.
9. UCLA...The Bruins have a lot of problems. First of all they can't score enough on offense. Second of all a once tough defense is being weakened by injuries.
10. Washington State...A much needed bye week to recover form injuries won't help them against Cal. The only question is how many points will the Bears score? Can they eclipse the century mark in this one? It is very possible since they can only send so many players on the road which means they can't throw the band in during the fourth quarter to give the Coug's a break. ( Correction: Cougs are playing at Cal)
Pac 10 Offensive Player of the Week
Nic Foles of Arizona was 41-50 for 415 yards against Stanford. Wow...just wow!
Pac 10 Defensive Player of the Week
ASU's Vontaze Burfict picked up three personal fouls in the first half against Washington. Yes, I am serious. The Sun Devils held Washington to only 17 points in a game that got away from the officials. The anarchy Burfict created out on the field in the first half whether it was legal or not kept Washington from achieving any rhythm on offense.
Washington Offensive player of the Week
Devin Aguilar had seven catches for 154 yards and one TD.
Washington Defensive Player of the Week
Alameda Ta'amu had his best day as a Husky. He was a force inside all day.
73 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
You left one award out
Pac-10 weekly ‘They Coug’d it!’ award:
The Huskies
Should we change the name?
Since it has happened more often to you than us lately? (Apple Cup, Notre Dame, ASU …)
by Jeff Nusser on Oct 19, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would be my pleasure
I can’t for the life of me understand why a Coug would ever say that. It’s so derogatory.
Maybe because they’ve seen it happen so many times?
Seriously, the vast majority of my friends that are Coug fans use that term.
I'm guessing its a generational thing
I’m not saying you’re old, but I’m guessing you’re older than me, and I’m guessing your friends are older than me, too.
As a 1999 grad, I’m from the generation that has seen my football team go to two Rose Bowls and post three consecutive 10-win seasons. I’m from the generation that saw the basketball team go to back-to-back NCAA Tournaments, and three straight postseason tournaments. That’s a far cry from the experience of a lot of the older fans.
The Coug It term is actually a Coug invention
I think it started in 1975 after the Apple Cup loss.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nuss
I’m about your age, and while not a coug I have two younger sisters that defected and are WSU graduates. And, every one of their (20-25 year old) friends use the term at least as often as I do.
Not sure why it is so acceptable within their group but it is.
Yep, I’m 40, and most of the people I’m talking about are within about 5 years of that, plus my 74 year old Coug dad who uses the term.
It might be generational. It might also just be the Cougs you hang out with. I can certainly understand why you find it offensive and don’t like other Cougs using it, but it is rather prevalent from what I’ve observed among Cougs…
Well
Historically you guys may need to invest in Depends. Just saying…. .
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a Coug It...
Just want to let all Oregon fans know that they are welcome to post here but no trolling is allowed. If you don’t bring anything intelligent to the conversation and you are just looking to get a reaction I will bounce you out of here and SBN in general quicker than a rubber duck made out of super ball material.
Comprende Duck fans!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
I will be here all week
And at the game Saturday
as an avid ducks fan I will attest to what John says:
This is a great place to talk football, John does an awesome job with breakdowns of the up coming games and there are a lot of readers on this site with great insight.
Here’s looking forward to a great week of conversation about a much heated game… obviously ending with an Oregon win… of course
Hi, my name is Matt Daddy and I am a....
HUGE FREAKING DUCK FAN!!!!!!... "Hi Matt Daddy"
my thoughts
1. This staff is so refreshing versus last year. While i was very disappointed by the coaching gaffes at ASU, I refrained from posting in my emotional state, thank god. Yep, they screwed up, and Sark did the right thing. Holt I will give a pass too again, just hope he owns up on Wed, which I think he will do.
2. Nansen on ST coaching needs to be addressed, not the Fogerson fumble, thats on Johri, but the constant miscommunication between the deep and upback receivers. Its like a revoving door back there and that is why I think we had so much confusion out there, Polk/ Sager on 1st KO, Polk/ J Johnson on 2nd, and then Homer/ Johnson colliding on short KO. Pick some guys and leave them there to get it ironed out. Also why has Mahan taken to rugby style punting lately with disastrous results, who thought of that brilliant idea. It isn’t working. Adam Long in his first shot at gunner and doesn’t pull up after the obvious fair catch signal reeks of bad coaching also.
3. I was shocked when Homer actually got a carry (1st this season) and it worked. I thought it was the play to call on 3rd and 1 with 31 secs remaining, miss it and punt it, make it and use the 3 TOs to get in FG range. A true brain fart by Sark but at least he admitted it. I think it was kirk who said we are paying a lot of money for OnJobTraining. I hope we aren’t like the Ms who develop the players only to lose them to the next highest bidder, like when Pete C retires.
4. The antics of Burfict and the zebras still bother me, if they review film a one game suspension should be ordered for VB. Larry Scott really needs to clean house, and it s not too late to tell David Cutaea to get the act going now, or be gone by Dec. The indecision, loss of control of the game was an embarrassment. The make up calls need to stop, if you screw it up, move on and get the rest of the game right. One thing that could be done immediately is send out a notice this week that sideline infractions will no longer be tolerated. If Stoops, Carrol, Harbaugh and Holt get 5 flags in a row thrown on them so be it.
5. We could be 5-2 right now with better offensive play calling. That said I am also smart enough to realize with TW we wouldn’t even be 3-4. We still have a chance, beat UCLA and WSU, and steal one from either UO (very tough), Ore St or Cal. It is attainable but no more letdowns. I really think the old losers mentality creeped back in last sat night.
6. As much as I despise the Ducks, they are a very good football team. Better in talent than us, and have 3-4 years of off season weight work versus our one. We will need a perfect game, no more mental errors, creative game plan, and some screw ups by Ore to have a chance. This could be a rout early if we play like we did against ASU, and Furd.
& 24 hours are up, lets get ready to play a very good football team. GO HUSKIES
All good points
I’m sure that the coaching staff is learning, and will refine their craft.
What the h is going on with special teams? The switch in personnel after the first KO return was following a touchback—are they doing an in-game rotational tryout? There’s clearly a lack of coordination between the deep returner(s) and the setup. And what’s happened to our all-american punter—is he being coached down to mediocrity?
Homer would seem to be this year’s equivalent to the TW-era TE. Wouldn’t it help the ground game (and entire offense) to use him once in awhile just to keep the opposing defenses honest?
Is there any mechanism for post-game action by the Pac-10 with a player like Burfict? There should at least be a review for the officiating crews as to why he was allowed to stay on the field and continue punching players after 3 personal fouls.
I don’t think that we saw any “losers mentality,” and I don’t believe that we’ll see any this year. But the coaching staff will have to correct their mistakes in order to maintain the players’ respect and belief in the system.
Too bad the Ducks had an extra week to prepare. We’ll need a complete and mistake-free effort for the full 60 minutes.
Wow- Recruit- Deontae Cooper
Anyone else read the LA Times article on him? Last game 60 carries, 412 yards. Graduating early for Spring enrollment.
Positives
We actually got some pressure in this game! I think we finished with three sacks, that is progress. DTN had two of those.
Kicking Game-Folk did miss the long 48 yard field goal after making it initially but did anyone else notice his kickoffs were a lot better?
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
Obvious?
Hey Duck Pals- I’d be careful with too much confidence and boasting. It is good that the Ducks are such a good team. Its always nice to have at least one of our Pacific NW teams in 1st place in the Conference. But bragging too much at your competition is just never a good idea.
This is going to be a great game! With all the Quackers coming up I am expecting a sell-out. The Ducks have a great team and much to win for, and our Huskies are now much like a hornet nest that has been stirred up.
Won’t surprise me to see either team win. One thing for sure, this will be the toughest game for Oregon since BSU. It is just lovely how well our young coaches and players show up and perform at home! Oregone is a very good team, but so is UCS, LSU, IU & AU.
The “obvious” comment was completely tongue in cheek. Judging by some of the comments on this site so far, I think I am more realistic about UW’s ability to keep this close then some Dawg fans.
Huskies stadium is a daunting place to play (plus, Oregon is still a young team). Personally, I’m just hoping that telent and speed win out, but if Oregon plays “deer in headlights” ala BSU, the ducks could be in for a long day.
Hi, my name is Matt Daddy and I am a....
HUGE FREAKING DUCK FAN!!!!!!... "Hi Matt Daddy"
Indeed..........
I’m expecting a real hoot on Saturday. Tailgating will be awesome! So will be the relative celebrations & mournings after the final whistle. All in all, PAC 10 football games like this are some of the best festivities we have in our lives!
agreed, unfortunately I am conflicted…I have a 3 day get away scheduled with my wife at the coast for our annivesary. Do I:
A. Spend half a day on our vacation watching a game on a crappy hotel TV, and hope my wife is ok with it?
B. DVR the game at home and try and avoid as many people talking about it as possible?
C. Spend time with my wife and get updates on the blackberry?
D. Call the divorce attorney now and find out how much the retainer is, because screw the vacation honey, we’re going to Seattle?
Hi, my name is Matt Daddy and I am a....
HUGE FREAKING DUCK FAN!!!!!!... "Hi Matt Daddy"
Take her to Seattle, but also take a few extra days off of work
After the game zip up to the San Juan’s and give her the Aunt Jemimah treatment.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosario.....
of Orcas Island, has GREAT spa services for the wife. If she does not want to attend the game, just leave her there for the afternoon, and she will not likely miss you any too much. ;-)
Rosario II
I second that motion…I actually talked my wife into going out to Seattle on her birthday for the Oregon game. if I can do it…you can do it!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Packed DAWGhouse!
I hope we get at least 70,000 for this one. Good luck getting a parking spot. You better come early!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Huskies' improvements are good for Ducks
I have been a Duck fan longer than most of you have been alive — heck, I watched the Ducks play at Hayward Field. Football in the Northwest is always better when all the teams are strong. I loved it when the four NW schools were fighting it out for conference championships and those in California were also-rans. The last few years were kind of sad. The Huskies weren’t very good, so a win over them didn’t count for much. And the fans in Husky Stadium followed suit. Husky Stadium, half empty after halftime was not a welcome sight for any true football fan. This season has been like a return to the glory years. I have loved seeing the TV cameras bounce during coverage of this year’s UW home games. The passion is back. UW is a worthy rival again — both the team and the fans. Winning there will once again be a mark of distinction.
Now if the Cougs could just turn it around …
Homer and kick-offs
Its about time Homer got the ball. I wonder in the ND game at the goal line if UW would have gotten in if they gave Homer the ball. ND were looking for Locker or Polk for the carry. Kick-offs in the ASU game were terrific. Kudos to Folk.
The Cougs play at Cal
And it will be better than last year. They won’t even get halfway to the century mark — I’m thinking in the neighborhood of 35-10. They’ll contain Cal much of the time, but will give up some explosive plays that will put the game well out of reach in the third quarter.
35-10
Nuss…I would love it if it happens…what I saw against UCLA really blew me away.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
They did have two weeks to prepare for that
Not that they need more than a week to prepare for WSU, but it’ll be flipped the other way for us — we will have had two weeks to prepare for them. And we are getting some major pieces back on the offensive line. If they are healthy enough, I expect us to be able to run the ball at least competently.
by Jeff Nusser on Oct 19, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nuss - you are funny.
… I don’t know if you notice it, but you sway from unabashed optimist to inconsolable realist sometimes in the same sentence. I enjoy your work on CougCenter and your comments here.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You really think 35-10 is completely out of the question?
We did hold USC to 28. Cal was held to 3 in consecutive games. I really don’t think I’m being outlandish by thinking that’s a realistic outcome. I know Oregon was ugly, but that’s a completely different sort of team (spread you out with lateral speed), one that gives our personnel type (strong with straightline speed) all sorts of fits — just like Hawaii and SMU.
no - that was not a sarcastic comment on my part.
… I do enjoy what you write and I like how you can swell optimistic and then reground yourself in reality. I can tell you are an emotional fan. My brother is a Coug, I think the two of you would get on famously well.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Ah ... I understand
Yes, I am an extremely emotional fan. I’m actually just an emotional person in general. Most people know where they stand with me all the time because I’m really crappy at hiding my feelings, and that extends to pretty much every aspect of my life. (Unfortunately for the softball umpires who happened to be on the other end of a berating.)
It’s weird — I’m a journalist by training, so I can sometimes be really good at turning off the fan in me and be clinical, but sometimes I REALLY suck at it and can’t keep it in. I really make my wife crazy sometimes.
It’s actually one of the big reasons why I write. It’s cathartic and helps me work through all the crap swimming in my head — especially the highly emotional stuff. The day I was most thankful for my blog? The day Tony Bennett left. Holy cow did I need that outlet that day …
By the way...
I love the Grady and the Nussmeister!
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Holt
John has some very good points about Holt and the defense, and Miller’s article is right on, even if the penalty wasn’t on Holt.
For some reason I feel a need to clarify my position on Holt, probably because I’ve been the most vocal about my dislike of the defense so far. I love the energy, passion and fire he brings to the table, players take on the traits of their coaches, and those are the traits you want defensive players to have. I am concerned that he has thrown his players under the bus a few times already. If you want players to run through a wall for you, you better have their back and definitely don’t tell the media that they lack talent. Players aren’t going to sell out for you if you are just going to sell them out. Yelling at the camera man, come on Holt, grow up, you are getting paid to be in the spot light, you better learn to deal with it, because right now you just make yourself look like a donkey.
I also question the schemes I am seeing from the defense. I think our defense is extremely predictable and extremely ridged. Let the LB’s dance around, move up to the line, maybe to blitz, maybe to fall back into coverage. We finally saw some variety out of Holt in the early 4th quarter, they brought pressure, even blitzing a corner or two.
In conclusion, I love the passion Holt brings, I question his schemes and ability to interact with the media, here’s hoping he is a quick learner just like Sark appears to be. Right now he appears to be a liability.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
From what I've read...
…they seem to have more packages and take more risks down in the redzone. That is exactly why they’ve been stout down there. It is easier to be agressive when the field is so short. Guys are packed in tighter and you can play up more. When they’re defending the entire field Holt seems very concerned about giving up the big play. I think Williams was still not 100% and probably shouldn’t have been in the game. Has anyone heard of when Jason Wells is going to be back? He is by far the best Free Safety that we have, or should I say was. The problem with him is he’s been out so long you wonder if he can shake the rust off quickly enough to be the best option out there.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Good points on Holt. Here’s something I don’t get – his insistence on staying in base packages in obvious passing downs. I’m having a really hard time believing that when he’s playing 7 or 8 guys in zone coverage that having his 3 LB’s in there are better than subbing in a Quinton Richardson, Vonzell McDowell, Greg Walker or Nathan Fellner.
I dunno, maybe I’m nuts – maybe it is better to have the LB’s playing the underneath zones because they presumably tackle better in the open field than DB’s, and because they can better provide run support in case the offense runs the ball.
I think Foster is faster than most of the nickel backs that we could put out there :)
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Yeah I think you...
answered your own question. Hate to use a “Holtism” but not enough bullets yet in the defensive backfield.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You really think Butler, Savannah and Foster are all better in pass coverage than Richardson, McDowell, Walker & Long?
I've got to agree with you
Continuing to put out the base 4-3 defense, especially against 4 wr’s, is just asking for disaster. If I’m Chip Kelly, I’m putting at least 4 wr’s in, and I’m throwing bubble screens all night long.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
deflated but coming up for air
and recovering. I think of it as the teenage years. Unpredictable but promising a bright future if we survive. The sun will rise again.
Burfict and Holt? But berating a player for his mistakes is just not right.
This is why as a 44 year season ticket holder I never liked the TYEES. A true Husky fan would never boo a Husky out there doing his best.
I don't know if you can...
…pin that all on being a Tyee? That guy booing may be a season ticket holder just like yourself. I’m a Tyee and I don’t boo those kids playing their hearts out.
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Tyee's?
I don’t get the correlation between booing and being a Tyee….being a Tyee means you just donate more money when you buy season tickets in exchange for getting better seats.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Or just keep your seats.....
and make a donation to support the program. That’s what I did. And oh no, I have and would never “boo” our own players or coaches. Won’t even “boo” the other team. I save all my game day booing for the PAC-10 refs, who suck.
One big change that could help us a lot would be to give far less reasons for the zebras to throw flags at us.
Always a jerk in the crowd
Flew in for the Arizona game with my wife. 60ish age fans behind me and my wife. The whole game, every play they complained loudly either about the play calling, the coaching , the players, etc,etc. I’ve never wanted to turn around and punch people in the mouth as much as I did that night. Couldn’t take that and the cold anymore so left with about 8:00 to go in the 4th. Figures huh that we’d miss the miracle. Anyway, so much for enjoying my yearly trip to Husky Stadium. Just shows you their are jerk fans at ALL ages, If you sit in section 20, row II, seats 8-12, you can kiss my as-.
I hear ya...
…I was there too and my wife got really tired of some of the negative comments from fans. She was telling me how we’d be better off if the negadawgs just left. They did and they missed “the party”. It was funny because my wife and I both stayed positive and talked about ways the Huskies could come back and actually win the game. We didn’t imagine it nearly as spectacular as it was though!
by doubledeucedawg on Oct 19, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Negadawgs
Created by Ty supporter JE Cornell over at Dawgman.
It really shouldn’t be used on this site since it is not applicable to any of the members.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 19, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ironic considering how Cornell was treated by Ty’s regime last year and how he finally turned on Ty.
Cornell
By all accounts from people who know him Cornell is a good guy. I never got along with him on the boards because he was so unrealistically over the top in his support of Willingham. To suggest that they extend his contract before the fourth season began was the most preposterous thing I had ever heard of.
I supported willingham for the most part the first two years. I think any coach deserves that type of buffer. The third year the gloves came off and by the end of the Arizona game I knew he had to go.
It was really sad the way Willingham treated JE. He learned a really hard lesson and it was too bad it took a shovel being bounced over his head for him to understand that Willingham was absolutely inflexible.
by John Berkowitz on Oct 20, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Numb Nuts at the Arizona game.
I’m pretty luck to have tickets in section 22, normally most of the fans around us are great, not suprising given you must have had tickets forever just to be in the section. During the Arizona game their was a drunk bonehead that was loudly complaining about EVERYTHING. Normally I just bite my lip and don’t correct other fans, but after a critical play, he was complaining about the lack of a replay on the Husky-tron. When he said, “Every stadium shows the replay, even Notre Dame show the replay, how come we don’t, Notre Dame does?”. I gave in and asked, “How do they do that, they don’t even have a video screen?” The look on his face was priceless, he even shut up for awhile.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
i'm getting sick and tired of hearing the ncaa or conference commissioners
making apologies to the schools that get screwed by officials and the replay booth. last week vs nd the ncaa apologized for critical errors by referee’s and replay booth people that cost washington a game. now the sec conference says it’s sorry about the officiating of the florida / arkansas game where a crucial penalty was called on arkansas on florida’s last drive that ended with the game winning fg. why is it always the team that has the most mojo going for it, most tradition or supposedly the best team in the nation getting all this help. f—king conspiracy.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 20, 2009 5:31 AM PDT reply actions
17 Points
Usually that is not enough points to win a Pac 10 game fellas. Keep piling on Nick Holt, I personally think he is doing an outstanding job. Maybe we aren’t ready to be a top notch program. Everything we see from Holt is exactly what has transpired on the USC side lines for the last 8 years.
Lear- Holt is acting like a grown up. This is bigboy football and if someone gets their feelings hurt because a coach berates them then honestly I don’t want that kid on my team! Being tough is not about pumping iron and throwing down. A lot stems from being street smart and having tough skin. I say let the coaches coach and in 2 to 3 years we can see if it is effective or not.
Keep piling on the defense fellas. But 17 points put up by the offense is not enough to win in Pac 10 action. Said it last week and I’m staying with it. Still think the defense has carried the offense for the first 6 weeks. How many defensive turnovers has the defense set the table for the offense? Yet our offense can’t muster more the 14 points per outing. You guys need to start looking where the real problems are. Everybody loves Locker and won’t question him nor the offense. I see too many 3 and outs, and way too many costly sacks- hindering our defense and putting them back on the field way too soon.
Love Holt! WOOF!!!
All I saw was purple
Yet our offense can’t muster more the 14 points per outing.
You might have some credibility in this argument if you used facts to support your arguments instead of made up numbers. The offense has accounted for 22.4 points per game this season.
How many defensive turnovers has the defense set the table for the offense?
And how many times has the offense went on long clock-killing drives to rest the defense? How many times has the offense gained field position to help out the defense? This is a team sport crazi – when you start trying to pick out sides, you can look silly, because things the offense does can help or hurt the defense, and vice versa. Not to mention special teams.
The defense is better this year, but not by a lot. They are giving up fewer points, and that’s the most important thing. That’s not all about the defense though – Washington’s TOP has improved this year, which obviously helps limit the amount of points our opponents can score. The defense is generating a lot more turnovers this year which is also a big help – more possessions for us and less for the opponents is a big advantage (obviously).
But our offense is still stronger than our defense. We are 87th in the country in scoring allowed, and 76th in the country in scoring – advantage offense.
I’m not doing this to prove myself right. And I’m not going to waste my time researching statistics. If you don’t buy my arguement I could careless. But I’m not going to allow all you guys to pile on Holt and the defense.
And if you look at those clock killing drives, many of them went for nothing or a FG attempt. And kirkd sorry, but considering our defense has scored some TDs of their own- I’m quite certain that 22.4 points per game argument is flawed. Offensively the offense can’t take credit for a defensive TD. Not to mention but the TDs and FGs the offense has scored due to a big turnover.
So if you discount the defensive TDs, the Washington offense is averageing about 18.0 points per game- correct? Point blank that’s NOT good enough for Pac 10 play.
I’m not calling out the offense, but I am defending our defense. Everybody is up in arms about how the defense is playing and coach Holt. Who freakin’ cares if Holt is not at the press conferernce? Flat out, Holt is a hired assistant. Now I might be a little old fashioned, but isn’t the head coach responsible for the team? Regardless if Sark has turned the defense over to coach Holt- this is Sark’s program and he is the only coach that should address the program after a win or a loss. The head coach is responsible for the program, not the assistant.
Some of you fellas really need to get a grip on things. Quit calling out coaches and quit calling out the team, i.e. defense. I think we are making huge strides coming off an 0-12 season. We weren’t going to Pasadena this year, nor San Diego. But we have a legit shot and going to El Paso, Las Vegas, or San Francisco.
Call me silly kirkd, but I am not the one picking out sides. I am defending a side that everybody is piling on.
All I saw was purple
And kirkd sorry, but considering our defense has scored some TDs of their own- I’m quite certain that 22.4 points per game argument is flawed.
Dude, seriously? It’s a fact – I didn’t pull the numbers out of my butt like you did:
UW 23, LSU 31
UW 42, Idaho 23
UW 16, USC 13
UW 14, Stanford 34
UW 30, Notre Dame 37
UW 36, Arizona 33
UW 17, ASU 24
UW total: 178
UW points off of defensive TD’s: 21
UW’s offense thus scored 157 points. Divided by 7 games, that’s 22.4 points per game.
Not to mention but the TDs and FGs the offense has scored due to a big turnover.
You can say that about every team – it’s the defense’s job to end and opponent’s possession, it’s the offense’s job to score when they have possession.
And I’m not going to waste my time researching statistics.
Obviously not, because statistics are objective facts that can’t be disputed as opposed to subjective opinions that can be proven wrong by objective facts, like stats.
Call me silly kirkd, but I am not the one picking out sides. I am defending a side that everybody is piling on.
I’m calling you silly for arguing that our defense has played better than our offense. Neither one has been great, but clearly the offense has been better than the defense as the eyes suggest and the numbers prove.
Does Holt have the defense playing better? In a couple of important areas, yes. And I’m optimistic that as he gets more of his own guys in the program, the numbers will improve even more.
But there’s still room for criticism of the defense. I’m pretty happy with the season so far, but there’s room for improvement, and I’m not going to refrain from pointing out those out just because we’ve improved on the walking dead season of last year.
It's obvious you don't know crazi
Dude I could careless about stats and numbers at this point. I go on gut instinct and feelings and my gut instinct tells me we are playing aggressive, pushing the envelope defense. Holt is bringing us the sort of defense we’ve wanted around here for the last decade. But to play an aggressive defense you’ve got to have the sort of talent to play that sort. We’ve got a few holes here and there in terms of positions, but recruiting will take care of that. Meanwhile we are who we are and need to focus on getting better each week.
I threw out the 0-12 thing because it seemed as if everyone has forgotten where the group was last season. Calling out Holt and the defense at this point is flat out WRONG! These coaches and players are trying to win some games this season. They don’t need to be addressing anything to the media or fans. Sark is the head coach and will address the media, but to be up in arms over an assistant not being made available for a press conference is a big waste of time. Their job is coaching football. I say we let them get that done, get a season under their belt, go after their type of players, and see where it takes us.
We lost a game on the road guys- again. Why all the criticism now? This team is young and are prone to silly mistakes on offense, defense, and in special teams. It’s part of being a young team. We aren’t going to win a road game anytime soon fellas. Kids need to figure it out before they can win consistently on the road. At home we’ve been money and that is where we are right now.
For now, get off coach Holt’s back for pete’s sake! You wanted one of the very best in the business and you got him. You can’t have it both ways. Do you want a fierce competitor or a stiff?
“Bring back Donatell” NOT!
All I saw was purple
You wanted one of the very best in the business and you got him.
Did we? Seems a little early to declare that.
Ponder this – if Holt is the “best in the business”, why did Carroll quickly take away his play-calling duties?
I’m not saying Holt is bad. I’m not saying the defense isn’t improving. I am saying I see a lot of room for improvement, and some of that room for improvement falls on Holt, on how he handles himself.
I love that the Huskies are better this year. Much of that is attitude, and obviously Holt brings a lot of fire, passion and enthusiasm to the table. But the goal isn’t to win 4, 5 or 6 games in a season. That’s a nice stepping stone this year, but the goal is to get back to winning 9, 10, 11 or more games. And when I see things out of our coaching staff that are keeping us from that, I’m going to call them out on it. I love what Sark is bringing to the table, but that doesn’t mean he’s above criticism. Should I ignore that he botched the end of the ASU game?
And I love how you talk about Holt playing aggressive, push the envelope defense above, when in the past you keep talking about how he’s playing conservative to keep the offense in front of our guys and not give up big plays. Look, I’d bet big money Donatell wanted to play more aggressively on defense, but like Holt, he looked the personnel he had and determined it was in his best interests at this time to play more conservatively.
If you stop making wildly inaccurate statements about how we’ve performed, I’ll stop posting the numbers that prove you’re wrong.

by 














