Stanford 112 UW 35 .... Wow
The Washington women lost last night 112 - 35 to #11 Stanford setting a conference record for largest margin ever in a conference loss.
The womens basketball team is going through a real tough time right now. Tia Jackson in her second year isn't getting her young team to play together which is sad because she obviously is a coach with a lot of passion for the game.
"There is a lesson we can learn," Washington coach Tia Jackson said. "We have had games like this before. We lost to Connecticut and then we turned around and upset a team [Florida State] the next day. We are definitely feeling good about making sure our team can bounce back."
Washington was missing starter Kristi Kingma and reserve Sara Mosiman for last nights game but it is doubtful their presence would have made any difference. The Huskies only shot 21% from the floor last night.
This was Stanford's sixth straight win over Washington and 10th in the past 11 meetings. It doesn't get any easier because #13 California is up next on Sunday.
Once again you look back to the day that UW AD Todd Turner fired June Daugherty after an NCAA tournament appearance and with one of top classes in the nation ready to join the team because he thought the program lacked buzz.
Washington womens basketball is still waiting for the buzz to come back.
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June Daugherty
I didn’t believe the reason for firing her at the time and it’s even more questionable now.
Is Jackson another “Ty”?
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by T9ODawg on
Jan 9, 2009 10:00 AM PST
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Don't believe the hype about June..
June Daugherty had become a mediocre coach leading a mediocre program. She hadn’t kept pace with modern style of play or players which is what made her team 1st round roadkill in the NCAA tournament.
In the current edition of cutthroat, highly competitive women’s college basketball June was never going to win a NCAA championship or make the Final Four or Final Eight or probably not even the Sweet Sixteen. Under a new regime that apparently wants to be elite in all high profile programs, she didn’t fit..
The question of whether Tia Jackson was the right hire is completely separate from June Daugherty’s problems.
by 206 on
Jan 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST
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Ty....PrrBrr
I really don’t know because I don’t follow that team very closely anymore.
A person to ask or chime in would be PrrBrr…he and his wife go to a lot of the games and he has been watching the womens team for years.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 9, 2009 10:02 AM PST
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Didn't we make the tournament last year?
That score is…. pretty damn embarassing.
I’m betting that we broke a lot of ‘records’ there, such as worst shooting percentage, worst percentage allowed, biggest rebounding margin or turnover margin, etc.
by LantermanC on
Jan 9, 2009 10:03 AM PST
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UNACCEPTABLE AND EMBARRASSING!
Coach Jackson better get it together and quick. These lopsided high school scores are embarrassing to the UW as an institution that prides itself on a balanced sports program. There is no way the UW should lose by 77 points EVER in any sport. Tia Jackson needs a huge second half of the season. Good coaches make adjustments and in basketball you can change an entire defensive or offensive system during the season if its that urgent. This is an EMERGENCY, if this keeps up and she doesn’t turn it around they need to fire Tia at the end of the year.
by 206 on
Jan 9, 2009 10:04 AM PST
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Is Tia Ty II?
From what I have heard she isn’t laid back or lazy which would eliminate the Ty comparison.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 9, 2009 10:06 AM PST
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if anything comparing Tia to Ty is a pretty lazy comparison.
I doubt it has anything to do Coach Tia’s passion or competence, more likely it has to do with (lack of) experience. Maybe she needed a stronger coaching resource on the bench? I don’t know that much about her assistant coaches except that Applin is primarily a recruiter. Judy Spoelstra is a former PAC-10 head coach but i don’t know enough about her to determine if she has the ability to help Coach Tia drag UW into the 21st century.
by 206 on
Jan 9, 2009 10:16 AM PST
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It is a little early
to condemn Tia. She has been victimized by the previous situation. I watched the Kstate game on the tube the other night, she is hunting bear with a cap gun. The team is slow, does not shoot well, and are not great ball handlers. A recipe for disaster. At the moment, I am not sure her system matches her players very well. I agree with 206, she will need to adjust a lot to make it work. I think recruiting this year and next will tell the story. If she starts landing the good local kids, and picks up a few good ones elsewhere, life will improve. If not……… sooner or later she has to win.
by OlyDawgFan on
Jan 9, 2009 12:57 PM PST
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Unacceptable
We need to evaluate at the end the season, but looks like she doesn’t have it. It was a Turner hire, does it surprise you? Unlike Ty, she works hard, but the teams execution is horrible, the passion is missing, it sounds like the players don’t like her. It would be best to part ways and bring in a big time women’s coach. We have gone from good to really bad since she has been here and I don’t see signs of improvement. You can tell when a coach is a right fit.
It doesn’t cost that much to bring in a really top notch women’s basketball coach, so we should just buck up and do it. Even though women’s basketball is not the most high profile sport, they represent the UW. We must strive for excellence in acamdemics, students, facilities, professors, and athletics or we might as well change the name to WSU.
by Fighting Husky on
Jan 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST
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Todd Turner
What a bafoon! That guy may have been strong on compliance but that was all he was strong on. That was the wrong decision to make with June and he was further made to look stupid by his total support for Willingham while he continued to drag the program down. The best thing that could happen for Washington Athletics is him being shown the door.
by doubledeucedawg on
Jan 9, 2009 1:13 PM PST
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TIA AND TY ARE THE SAME.
Can’t coach on game day. WTF Buzz is that. The players are her recruits. Has taken a Perennial Baketball power to it’s knees. She can’t recruit and in the hell, can’t coach. It is an embarassment watching women’s basketball at Hec Ed. Thanks Toad Turner for your infinite wisdom.
by bigdawgdaddy999 on
Jan 10, 2009 9:08 AM PST
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Tough to pass final judgement after over half of her team was held captive last season by order of Todd Turner at the seasons conclusion. That was never an easy obstacle to overcome.
She does seem to be hard to get along with and has the rep of being a hard ass.
As far as coaching goes the losses to UConn and Stanford are hard to explain away.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 10, 2009 9:29 AM PST
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Tia
The team has been a big disappointment. Much of the problem is playing a different style with JDs recruits. As for bigdawgdaddy the recruits are not hers yet. The first year were 5 JD recruits 4 of whom left due to fit. Of those the only one who would have helped this year was Kate Redmon. Also JD recruited poorly and that is why you have no balance in classes, 2 Sr, 6 Jr, 2 So (Rogers xfer RS), 5 Fr. JDs typical game plan was recruit suburban white shooters launching 3 pointers against no defenses competition. Even her bigs were more prone to launch the 3 (Lalum at 6’5"). The UW under JD was going to be at best mediocre. On a football parallel it would be like Michigan last year playing the spread with Carr’s recruits or Nebraska under Callahan west coast playing with Solich’s power option recruits.
This is not going to set well with many of you, but what TIa needs is time. Although this is her second year, it is her first with her recruits since bball has different timelines for commits, ie you recruit next years class last year. LoRo has finished his class for 2009, and will have the 2010 class by October of 2009. Tia was hired too late (in Apr 07) to get anybody except those who had committed to JD, and they mostly wanted out. The problem TIA has is she might not get that time by getting blown out in record setting fashion and losing to much lesser teams such as Weber St, Northern Colorado, which causes the howls from those who only read the headlines from the papers.
Her starting lineup includes only an occasional recruit of hers (Rozier, Young, Williams) but most of the reserves are her players. I think she did make one huge mistake in setting up her staff, and that is for a first time head coach, she needed to surround herself with Xs and Os minds. Instead she hired almost exclusively great recruiters like herself, Applin, Loree Payne (Husky connection but only 4 years removed) and her friend from her Iowa playing days, who also left last year and was replaced by Spoelstra (not sure is Spoelstra is that XO mind).
What do I think? She needs time to get her players in , but she might not get that time due to the historic losses. Next years class consists of only 2 schollies, Augustavo (SWF 3 pt shooter) and McNeil. She has no point guard capable of running the show, Rozier, Morton and Mosiman (hurt) have all played well at times and also have stunk up the place too. So it might be until year 4 that the team is finally all hers with the type of recruit she needs to run her style (she will have 5 or 6 to hand out in 2010). Will she get that 4th year, I would give it to her only because of the atrocious imbalance she was handed by JD, but at the same time they need to start showing progress and quit getting blown out by good teams and losing to Seattle Pacific like they did in Tias first year. She needs to hire an X and O coach unless Spoelstra is that person this year.
BTW, even in the wins the stats are ugly, beating WSU by 20 but still had 29 turnovers. I won’t criticize the present players individually, but if you go watch a few of their games, you will shake your head at the non athleticism and inability to play a fast paced offense ( a lot of those turnovers are caused by bigs not anticipating the pass from the guards). Sami Whitcomb is probably the only player who is capable of playing at that speed. There are also a few of her recruits that fit there too. Liz Lay, Mollie Williams are a good start. Young needs to pick up her defense and intensity,
In the end , it might not work out for Tia, and she might very well have to be replaced, but I would hope we give her 4 years and show us what her recruits are capable of. As far as the comment that her players don’t like her: BS. And further that she can’t recruit, shows me how uninformed the poster is. Have you watched any of the games in person. No more on this rant.
by prrbrr on
Jan 10, 2009 10:57 AM PST
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Thanks Prrbrrr
The best asssessment is from somebody that actually goes to the game and Roland is that guy. He has been watching the team since back in Gobrecht days so he has a great feel for what is going on.
She needs another couple years IMHO.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 10, 2009 12:21 PM PST
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JB
I am tired of the assesment that you bring a program to it’s knees before it gets better. That migh work at WSU or Northwestern. No way with four(4) years. No SIGNIFICANT improvement after year 3. It’s Adios. After the TW fiasco, I am tired of giving money with promise, hope and minimal improvement. Losing to Stanford by that score is not acceptable…no matter what the excuse. Period.
by bigdawgdaddy999 on
Jan 10, 2009 1:09 PM PST
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bigdawg
So what does TW and your giving money have to do with the wbball program unless you give to the wbball program. TW is gone, Tia might be next and oh we give money too.
by prrbrr on
Jan 11, 2009 3:08 AM PST
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Assesment
The original plan wasn’t for it to get worse before it got better. I think when half your team quits because they were forced to be there by the old AD who wouldn’t release them you have a huge problem for any incoming coach to solve.
Tough to equate Tia to TW IMHO.
Turner really turned it into a mess.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 11, 2009 9:57 AM PST
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"bigdawg
So what does TW and your giving money have to do with the wbball program unless you give to the wbball program. TW is gone, Tia might be next and oh we give money too."
I give yearly to Husky Athletics, with the majority going to football, plus season tickets. I agree with you JB on Turner. They were other problems going on in theHusky Athletic Department besides football. Losing to Stanford by that score is not acceptable…no matter what the excuse. Period. I didn’t say fire her, but I want some signifcant improvement.
by bigdawgdaddy999 on
Jan 11, 2009 5:53 PM PST
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Sounds fair
Bottom line is they have to start playing better or she wont be around.
by John Berkowitz on
Jan 11, 2009 7:39 PM PST
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