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Terrance Dailey has shoulder surgery

Sophomore running back Terrance Dailey had surgery on his shoulder this week and will miss the next six months including spring practice. Dailey actually injured the shoulder in September but still played the final eight games of the year.

Dailey is another example of a kid who wasn't physically ready as a freshman and ended up getting seriously hurt. The injury sets back his development because he can't do any serious upper body work.

He could be back by fall camp but I think there is a good chance he will redshirt next season.

Willingham took a great class and decimated it's future potential by playing way too many kids way too early.

Panic does that to a coach who is facing termination.

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What a shame...

hopefully it will go well and he will be back in two years, stronger than ever.

by bigdave967 on Jan 24, 2009 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

I totally agree that Ty played too many guys too early

But I don’t think he had a choice at running back. Dailey must have been about 5th on the depth chart starting fall camp, but everybody in front of him dropped out with injuries.

Now, if we want to blame Ty for not recruiting enough upper-class depth, then I’m already on that train. :-)

by busplunger on Jan 24, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

Upper Class Depth

That goes hand in hand with striking out with RB’s in his second year and the failure of JR Hasty from his first recruiting class.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, even if...

J.R. Hasty had worked out and Michael Houston had worked out, they probably still didn’t have quite enough depth. No excuse for going into this season with one true sophomore (Brandon Johnson) and a whole pack of freshmen.

When you figure that they had almost the exact same lack of experience at receiver, it blows your mind. How does that happen in a Pac-10 program? Ugh.

by busplunger on Jan 24, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Shoulders can be funny. Sometimes they aren’t sure whether it’ll heal on its own, so they try that first. Sometimes it’s hard to tell from an MRI what the actual problem is, so they’ll have to do an exploratory surgery.

This happens with baseball pitchers all the time, where a guy does a couple stints on the disabled list and it doesn’t get better so they end up doing surgery.

by busplunger on Jan 24, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

JR Hasty, Michael Houston, and Leilyon Meyers

If all three of those guys had stayed or made it into the program and made an impact it would have helped last season.

Houston was the big back they had been craving. He would have been the real deal if he kept his nose clean. Meyers had an impressive two years in the JC’s before blowing his knee out. As for Hasty it is tough to ever emerge from Ty’s doghouse but he hasn’t exactly lit the fire at Central Washington either.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

James Montgomery

UW was too late for Jonathan Stewart the year before so I won’t throw Ty under the bus on that one.

Washington struck out on quite a few TB recruits in the 2006 season because Ty put all his eggs in one basket by telling James Montgomery he would be the only TB they would recruit that year. Montgomery ended up switching to California under family pressure at the last moment.

If they had put a class together a class of Crenshaw and Montgomery it could have saved Ty’s bacon in the future.

Stafon Johnson – USC
James Montgomery – California
Chane Moline – UCLA
Andre Crenshaw – Oregon
Rodney Glass – ASU
Thomas Perez – Colorado
RJ Sanders – Colorado St

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

No other Husky HC coach but Ty

wouldn’t have even been able to get a visit with Stewart. He was a dUck from his sophomore year on.
That was the word around Olympia his Jr and Sr years.

by T9ODawg on Jan 24, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Point is...

Ty didn’t take recruiting as serious as he should’ve early on. We can throw names to the wind all we want but what strikes me is obviously we let guys like Jonathan Stewart and Taylor Mays leave for rivaling programs.

What happens if Ty lands Jake Locker, Taylor Mays, and Jonathan Stewart? I’d say we’d probably be winning more then losing and an eventual rise to dominance would be right around the corner. Instead we are at a point where the program is lower then when Ty arrived. 0-12 stinks! It is darn near impossible to recruit great kids after a dismal season like that. The only way to climb out of it is to win some games. But I am optimistic, I think when Locker went down the team basically quit midway through the seaosn. If that is the case then coach Sark and Holt will rebound from this splendidly.

by crazidawg on Jan 24, 2009 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Keeping the best home

You need to keep the very best home every year.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Losing Stewart

When Neuheisel was fired any chance of getting Stewart went out the window because all stability went out of the UW program.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Not just blaming Ty

Yeah anytime their is an ugly divorse it’s bad all around. So Ty can’t be the fall guy in losing Stewart. I’ve been ticked off at our ill-advised coaching hires since the departure of Lambo. Yet Lambo wasn’t great either, but he did attempt to run the program James-esque style and I can’t fault him for that.

Bottom line, our athletic program was messed up by Babs and what we see today was her lack of vision.

by crazidawg on Jan 24, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed with you john

losing stewart hurt,and taylor mays might just be the next freak of nature safety that one hurt,i think sarkisian is gonna recruit very well next year,go dawgs.

by justicebeau on Jan 24, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha - the coaching staff panicked ...

… but the faithful husky nation never did. that’s funny.

"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 24, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

He stayed a year too long

Ty needed to be fired after the 2007 season.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed but...

Who would we of hired? Definitely Sark wouldn’t be ready as a HC yet. I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think everything worked out the way it should’ve. Great timing to get a great young head coach in Sarkisian and all the great assistants he nabbed.

If Ty were fired in 07 then surely we might’ve settled for Pat Hill instead of the opportunity of getting Sark-Daddy!

by crazidawg on Jan 24, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim L. Mora

If Ty had been fired last December, Jim L. Mora would be the coach.

by kirkd on Jan 24, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Mora Jr.

Yeah I know that was by far the most popular opinion to bring in, but honestly what has Mora done as a head coach? The guy basically threw his head coaching job away in Atlanta. Is that the making a great head coach?

Now he is assuming the throne at Quest Field and still we don’t know much about him. The Seahawks are looking at a rebuilding process and I guess we’ll find out what kind of a coach he really is.

I don’t think we could’ve gotten a more intellegent coach then Steve Sarkisian. But then again he is unproven much like Mora Jr. I guess we’ll find out what both of these coaches are made of. But I’ll take Sark over Mora anyday.

by crazidawg on Jan 24, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just answering the question “Who would be our coach?”

As for what he’s proven, he’s proven he can post a winning career record in the NFL, something a large majority of men that have coached in the NFL have not been able to accomplish, and something that is harder to do in the NFL than in college.

by kirkd on Jan 25, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Head Coaches

With this years NFL mass firings I am very upset that we named Mora Jr the coach in waiting. We could get die hard proven defensive coaches but now we are stuck with an unproven commodity. I know why we did it, to get him before anyone else did but now it seems that we made a mistake. Either way I hope and pray I am wrong…

by bigdave967 on Jan 25, 2009 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Which fired NFL coach would you prefer to Mora?

by kirkd on Jan 25, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

List

Gruden
Billick
Cowher
Mangini
Rex Ryan
Spagnula

They all come to mind. Gruden, Billick and Cowher have all won Super Bowls. Mangini is a good coach and Ryan and Spagnula are GREAT coordinators who all deserve a fair shot. Just my personal opinion but Mora is a local boy who people want to love…I feel like people are trying really hard to find reasons to like Mora but he doesnt really have the track record of these other guys (besides Ryan and Spagnula).

I really really hope that Mora is the guy, but after the Def collapse this year and especially the DB’s, I am not so sure…

by bigdave967 on Jan 25, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d take Cowher in a heart-beat, but he’s not coming to Seattle.

Billick? Maybe, but he’s an offensive coach. Won that Super Bowl with Baltimore, yes, but that wasn’t enough for him to keep his job ultimately, and look at what Harbaugh has done in his place. Billick’s overall winning pct. is only a tick higher than Mora.

Gruden is another maybe. Like Billick, the Super Bowl is nice, but his overall winning pct. is actually a bit lower than Mora.

Mangini? Maybe the Jets weren’t the greatest job, but he did less in his 3 years there than Mora did in his 3 years in Atlanta.

Ryan and Spagnula are more unproven than Mora.

Listen, I’m not going to say with confidence that Mora will be great with the Seahawks – in fact, I think this team is set-up for a tough rebuilding process – but outside of Cowher, I don’t see a slam-dunk better choice. If we could get Cowher, I’d be all over it. Otherwise, I’m content to see Mora get his chance (though I think he’s stepping into a deck stacked against him…)

by kirkd on Jan 25, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Stacked againist him?

This team is one year removed from the Division Title and didnt lose anyone on the Def side of the ball. The only thing he has to worry about is getting some youth in for the aging offensive players (Hasselbeck and Jones come to mind). Def is young and has shown what they can do with the right coaching. Everyone wants to love Mora but I will reserve judgement until further notice. I really hope he gets us back to the top!

Mangini was a stretch now that I think of it. I was going through the coaches that got fired. Mora in my mind is better than him.

by bigdave967 on Jan 25, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knows if Hasselbeck will ever be 100% healthy again with his back issues. Jones is on the downslope of his career, and it could devolve quickly with his knee problems. Our WR group hasn’t lived up to what we paid for them in Branch and Burleson.

As for the defense, I think they’ll improve with a more aggressive guy in charge in Mora, but they need some more size in the middle. Tubbs being an injury bust has hurt this team. And the safeties regressed this year.

I’m not going to blame Mora for this year’s secondary problems any more than I’ll praise him for how good they were in ’07.

I think there’s the potential for this defense to rebound enough under Mora to keep the team competitive, and the #4 pick should bring an impact player, but the offense needs a lot of help long-term and the defense is a question mark.

In the larger sense, what I mean about things “stacked against” Mora is the fact that he’s replacing a legendary coach and handed a questionable team. This fan base is used to winning the division every year and just a few years removed from a Super Bowl appearance. They won’t have a lot of patience if Mora doesn’t have the Seahawks back in the playoffs consistently, and may even get testy if he’s making the playoffs but flaming out in the first round. It’s a tough role to step into.

by kirkd on Jan 25, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Only time will tell

I am not really sold on Casey Bradley’s resume…North Dakota State to Tampa Bay LB Coach and then 3 years later is our DC?? I dont know about that…

Greg Knapp, Raiders…jeez. I know Mora worked with him in Atlanta but that didnt seem to work to well. Is he even going to keep the West Coast Offense??

This year if they do not draft Crabtree I might jump ship…the Seahawks, year in and year out, draft like they have no cares in the world. Last year they could have had any number of stud WR’s (none went in the first round) or they could have had Dustin Keller who is more of a receiver than Clarkson. A DE in Jackson who may end up being a very good player but they wasted a 1st rounder when they had other positions of greater need. If they don’t start to give Hasselbeck some weapons they are doomed.

WR, Left Tackle, DT and QB should be the top three priorities. QB can wait because next year the class will be stacked. But Wr and big time DT are the most pressing needs…IMHO

Like I said, I will wait until at least the first game before I start to get TO negative but so far I am completely uninspired.

by bigdave967 on Jan 26, 2009 6:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Visits

Looks like there are some suprise visitors after all….Per Dawgman Stan Hasiak, Simione Vehikite are visiting this weekend!

by john_s on Jan 24, 2009 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

Visits

Yep.

Major kudo’s for getting them in this late in the recruiting season.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 24, 2009 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Even if they don’t commit it shows the effort is there to work and keep on working. You gotta love that!

by john_s on Jan 24, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Why wouldn't you go on an extra recruiting trip?

I’ve been on recruiting trips. They’re insanely fun. Even if you’re committed elsewhere, you might as well go on the trip just to have a good time. I knew I was committed to UW, but went on other trips just for the heck of it.

by jazzaholic17 on Jan 25, 2009 2:09 AM PST reply actions  

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