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Possible Position Changes

Most of the focus right now is on recruiting and who is going to be hired as assistant coaches. Even more important is what type of moves the new staff is going to make with the existing team.

The most important thing you can do to help your football team win is to get the best eleven players on offense and defense on the field as much as possible. It sounds easy but Tyrone Willingham had a hard time getting that done during his tenure at Washington. To put it lightly Willingham never seemed to have a good feel on what position his players could best excel in.

I have heard many knowledgeable people say that Pete Carroll can watch a kid for thirty minutes and figure out where he needs to play the next five years. They said exactly the same thing about Don James. You hope that type of talent evaluation rubbed off on Steve Sarkisian over the last seven years.

One of the the things Sarkisian will be doing with his staff over the next month or two is going to be watching a lot of film of the 2008 Huskies in practices and games. It should give him a good feel for what type of personnel moves he needs to make or experiment with going into spring practice.

Lets take a quick look at the roster and make a few early guesses about some players that could end up being moved around.

Quarterback

RS Luther Leonard is one of only three QB's on the roster heading into spring. Leonard is a good athlete with decent wheels and a strong arm. He arrived at Washington pretty green and was recruited as more of an athlete rather than a true QB. Willingham's staff was going to move him to either WR or DB this spring and I think Sarkisian follows through with that move. I see a waste fo athletic talent if Leonard stays at QB.

Tailback

With Curtis Shaw returning with 20 extra pounds of muscle and the best overall speed on the squad the log jam at this position continues to build. UW has some talent at RB but they all had one thing in common last year and that was a lack of durability. The extra muscle gives Shaw the edge going into spring ball.

Terrance Dailey was last seasons leading rusher but with a year in the weight room he could be moving to FB to become a Richard Thomas type of FB option. Paul Homer is a bruiser but he isn't any type of threat when he runs the ball. Dailey would give the Huskies a good tool to use between the 20's. He can run catch and block. Give him twenty more punds of muscle and you may develop another potent weapon.

Brandon Yakaboski has been hurt ever since he arrived on campus. He did make a TD catch this season in limited action but durability could be a congenital problem for him. I think he is a candidate to see time over at LB if he can find a way to stay healthy. If he can't stay healthy he may be a candidate for early retirement.

Chris Polk was the top recruit in last years class and he fizzled after two slow starting games and a shoulder injury. Polk's biggest problem was not being ready for prime time on a physical basis. I think he would have done fine in the slot but asking him to carry the rock 25 times a game without any time in the weight room was a mistake. Polk is definitely one of those top eleven guys you need on the field as much as possible and I think WR is the best place for him in 2009. Sarkisian is pretty familar with this kid and I think he will be able to find the right spot for him.

Wide Receiver

Alvin Logan had a decent debut at WR last season but where he really made noise was on special teams with his hitting ability and making defensive plays on offense when Washington turned the ball over. I think Logan's best position is safety and I bet the coaches come to the same conclusion this spring. Logan could just be the hammer we need in the secondary.

Most of us had Vince Taylor penciled in for safety last season and it was puzzling with he lack of depth over there that Willingham never gave him a shot. One good thing is that he got a RS year and still has four to play. Taylor is a great athlete who can make an impact on either side of the ball. If there is need at safety I can see him making the move.

Offensive Line

Dave Samek of Dawgman raised the speculation that defensive linemen Tyrone Duncan and Nick Wood would be better off if they moved over th the offensive guard positions. I think it makes quite a bit of sense since they were both passed up by true frosh last season for playing time. There is need for depth at offensive guard and I think these guys could provide some depth and quickness to the position.

Defensive Line

We already talked about the possibility of moving Tyrone Duncan and Nick Wood over to offense. Another move that might help is moving Cameron Elisara outside. Elisara who was a blue chip recruit was pounded inside all season and I don't see that changing in the future. If Elisara is ever going to be a player it isn't going to be inside. The problem with this move is finding enough depth to take his place inside.

Linebacker

The return of EJ Savannah is going to help this unit if he can stay eligible and out of trouble. Those are a couple of pretty big if's for this young man. Trenton Tuiasosopo has been granted an extra year but hasn't decided if he wants to play one more year. Those two additions could be huge in 2009 for the Huskies.

UW needs to start thinking about the future and adding some speed. Brandon Yakaboski, Quinton Richardson, and Johri Fogerson all come to mind as potential additions to the LB unit.

Defensive Back

Washington really didn't have a true CB that was able to play last season. Byron Davenport was probably the closest thing they had and he was injured all year. Quinton Richardson had a good first year but he proved one thing to me and that he will never be a QB. The Huskies need to move him to safety or LB where his speed and strength can be used.

Johri Fogerson is an impressive athlete. I think he will do some great things while he is at Washington. Bob Condotta of the Times suggested moving him back to TB but I like him better as a LB or Safety. If you don't move Richardson you need to move Fogerson. I could actually see them moving both depending on the type of defense we run next season but that is whole different story waiting to be told after we hire a defensive coordinator.

Victor Aiyewa had a tough season and should have redshirted because of various injuries. He didn't and played sparingly which was just ridiculous. He is another kid that could move to LB if needed. He is a big time hitter.

Marquis Persley started off last season as a big corner and the coaches liked his potential. Injuries moved him over to safety and honesty that is where he needs to stay. Everyone loves big CB's but UW is better off with little guys that can back peddle and elevate.

Who are the true cornerbacks on this roster? Sarkisian is concerned enough that he is looking for a JC that can come in and play right away. I think the answer to that question may lie with three players who didn't see action last year. Justin Glenn, Anthony Gobern, and Adam Long all had the talent to play last season but luckily spent a year getting stronger. Gobern actually deferred his enrollment after shoulder surgery so he still has five years left to play.

When I look at the overall talent on this squad and the lack of depth and experience on the defensive line I can see Sarkisian going with a 3-4 to get his best players on the field. It all depends on what the philosophy of the new DC is but the personnel is pointing more in that direction even than last season when it was obvious before Ty decided not to let EJ back on the team.

Once again that is a decision the new DC will make with Sarkisian but the personnel coming back seems to make me think they will go in that direction.

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Some good moves listed on there John

 Plus, if we picked up Terry Glenn that would be huge : )

by Snostrebla on Jan 2, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

Freudian Slip

That would be huge…thanks for pointing it out the change has been made.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 2, 2009 6:34 PM PST reply actions  

Just giving you a little grief John...

for some reason I always want to call Jermaine Kearse – Javon, I can’t seem to get that one right.

  What’s your thoughts on redshirting alot of the kids that haven’t done it yet? It seems kids like Fogerson, Aiyewa, Kelemete, McDowell & Nate Williams could really benifit from a year of studying their positions and hitting the weights. Plus, in Aiyewa and Forgersons case just time to heal. I know you can’t RS everyone but it seems in the long run we’d be better off.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think once the kids have played they usually keep playing. There are some circumstances because of injury where they may hold a few of them out. Aiyewa is a guy that should never have seen the field last year. Ty wasted two years of his eligibility.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Vonzell McDowell

Was forced into action too early, but he might be the type of true CB you’re looking for w/ a little cultivating by the coachers.

Our leather lungs together...

by attakid117 on Jan 2, 2009 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

McDowell

Tou can say that but we haven’t exactly seen the level of performance needed from him at the position.

The best CB at the end of the year was Matt Mosley. I’m not sure Mosley is a true CB either.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 2, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

I know we haven't seen it yet

But he’s got the body type you were calling for. Hopefully he’s just in need of a little polishing

Our leather lungs together...

by attakid117 on Jan 2, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Defensive Back

Even if you only saw Johri Fogerson in the State High School Championship, you’d know that he has a unique, god-given talent for changing speeds and picking holes while carrying the ball. He may not be a punisher or have breakaway speed, but he has an instinct that can’t be taught.

That said, he’s not a D-1 defender. He may be a great kid who’s giving his best, but at this level you need a certain head for the game, coupled with specific physical skills.

I’d like to see him get a chance back at RB (which he probably would have gotten this past year had he not been first switched into service at DB). Maybe he’ll never be a star, but I’d like to give him the opportunity to excel at the position he was recruited for.

by Verge on Jan 2, 2009 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

Verge

I like the way you think….you can make a case either way.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 2, 2009 10:03 PM PST reply actions  

Not big on Position Switches, but neccessary at times

I don’t like Chris Polk at WR. The kid is a featured back and should get 15 to 20 touches of the ball. I think he has the potential to be a playmaker and game breaker. Now when I say 15 to 20 touches does not equate to that many carries. Let him share the load of carries with other runningbacks and put him in space to catch the ball in the flat, on screens, and on wheel routes.

Also since USC’s fullback position was a gifted receiving threat, I think coach Sark is going to steer our FB position in that direction. Got hands? Got toughness? Got short yardage running ability? Got pass protection ability? Got the Fullback position.

I like our young WR corps. The problem with it is we were poorly coached involving that unit. We didn’t understand spacing. Besides the early game drops I think every body can catch the football. Main problem we were snot-nosed freshmen meat.

I think coach Sark will make a few position switches, but not a lot. Maybe in his first season we might see a few more then expected due to depth and talent levels. I think coach Sark implementing the pro style is going to really turn some heads. Our pathetic, non productive offense last year couldn’t get out of its own way. Sark is going to turn the lagging offense into something that resembles USC offensive machine. Position switches? Sure, but not a whole hell of a lot.

by crazidawg on Jan 2, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry, but you are too fun to pick on!

Poorly coached WR’s? I have to disagree, yes they were very young, and have much to learn. But Charlie Baggett has a pretty nice NFL resume coaching WR’s. I saw drastic improvement out of the WR’s as the season progressed. Had the WR’s played as well in game 1 as game 12, Lockers numbers would have been vastly improved.

I wish I had your love for the pro style offense, I think it’s going to be a few years before it really takes hold and gets going. The problem last year wasn’t the offensive style, the problem was Jake was the only QB able to run that style offense.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 3, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell Yeah!

Completely and totally disagree with your opinion of Charlie Baggett and his so-called NFL resume. For starters “if” the dude was worth all that blathering you just wrote then why did he wind up coaching the bottom feeder of the Pac 10 who just completed an 0-12 season? I’m going to do my Jim Mora Sr. impersonation… Resume? we’re talking resume???

My opinion regarding Baggett and his so-called NFL resume? It is the same opinion I have with our ousted fan fav defensive coordinator- Ed Donatell. And if Donatell or Baggett were that good what in the hell were they doing on Ty’s horrible staff? I said it prior to the seaosn and I’m quite certain Dawgfan remembers, I said their has to be a reason why this guy isn’t in the NFL anymore. Same applies to Baggett. If he is so good why isn’t he coaching elsewhere more precisely in the pros?

Pick on me all you want- your points are astounding but your arguements are fruitless.

Can I get a “Hell yeah!” for Craziness?

by crazidawg on Jan 3, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I like your enthusiasm!

…we could use more of that in the fan base! I tend to agree with you though. I think a staff gets a certain window of opportunity and if they blow it, they’re gone. Donatell, if he did improve the defense, it wasn’t really noticeable by me. At this point I think you give someone else a shot.

by dawgfan22 on Jan 3, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That's me Crazidawg- WOOF!!!

Dude I am all about enthusiasm. I am Brian Cushing on message boards- BaBY!!!

Some may not like my style and the passion I display, but they are down right boring and that is ultimately what is wrong with not only this program but the fans too. An 0 and freakin’ 12 season should not sit well with the fans! I’ve read where some of the fans wanted a few of the coaches retained. 0 and stinkin’ 12 fellas. Ohio State, Michigan, and any and all of the other big boys would’ve shown these guys the door. This fan base needs more craizness. You want to talk all that crap that we belong with the best? Get freakin serious. No coach should’ve been retained after an 0-12 season- PERIOD!

by crazidawg on Jan 3, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You've gotta be kidding ...

 … your criteria for deciding who is and who is not a good coach is by the company they get paid to keep on the job. That is very persuasive.

"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 3, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

We argree again, stop that!!!

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 3, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Fruitless, huh?

Funny your whole point is based soley on the company the coaches kept, not at all on the performance of his unit. In other words all bark, no bite.

I like the energy, but your arguments have no substance, little knowledge, and very little common sense. I hope you aren’t a reflection of Sark, energy with out substance will equal more losing seasons.

"Bow Down to Washington"
"Kick the tires and light the fires!"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 3, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I initially thought the same as you about Baggett...

and while there was some improvement, especially in blocking downfield, for the most part I was disappointed. Baggett may be fine for the pro receiver, one who has already been taught the fundamentals of running routes, catching before running, etc.., but with our, admittedly young, receivers, I didn’t notice as much improvement as I expected given his resume. Please note that I’m rarely able to actually see a game and am basing my opinion on what I’ve read.

by hairofthedawg on Jan 3, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Baggett

The head coach sets the tone on how the assistant coaches work and how hard they work.

I know a lot of assistant coaches who were fantastic under Don James who didn’t do as well under other coaches. There are people that lead and people that need to be led. Football is no different than anything else. The stronger the leader the better the assistants end up doing.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

dbs

fogerson and richardson both seem like very great athletes but i dont think they are quite fast enough for d1 secondary…

by AllEyezOnMe on Jan 3, 2009 12:42 AM PST reply actions  

I think they are fine

both made great plays at times but they are young. Richardson only really got beat when he constantly bit on play action. He’ll learn in time. Fogerson needs to put on 20 lbs. of muscle. Personally, I think Johri should red shirt and hit the weights.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

John I agree that if cousin Tui (hopefully) comes back next year then our personnel forces us to run 3-4 or some variation to have our best 4 tacklers (and gameday leaders) on the field.

But 3 of those 4 LBs will be playing their final season which makes LB depth a glaring weakness for 2010. SO I believe that you’re not overreaching at all with your estimate of 3-4 kids moving to LB these defensive position switches are not an option, they are a necessity.

If healthy I think Yak, Q, and Aiyewa are the best bets for LB. As I stated in an earlier Dec. post, our LB speed must improve & it is unlikely that we’re going to be able to recruit that many ready-made LBs, we need to create some. I would have liked to see Shaw at LB but he used his time off to physically make himself a D1 TB so he deserves a shot.

Chris Polk was just misused last year. Slamming him between the tackles was ridiculous. Sark will put Polk in space the same way he did with McKnight.

If Shaw steps up we can use Freeman as a change of pace back. Then we will be fine at RB and Fogerson can stay on defense. Maybe LB is better for him because his decision-making wouldn’t have such disastrous consequences or maybe he matures and he gets the mental aspect of safety down this spring. But I wouldn’t put him back at TB unless the other kids aren’t stepping up.

I still think we’re going to be decent this year.
GO HUSKIES!!

by 206 on Jan 3, 2009 12:58 AM PST reply actions  

def takles

tui needs to move to gaurd he is to slow for nose takle he is big but slow with no fire and craziness for def. much better gaurd

by kamailman on Jan 3, 2009 7:59 AM PST reply actions  

Totally disagree

He is a proto typical nose tackle. He held his own and was our best DT by far as a true freshman. He is young and needs alot of work regarding technique but in a year or two he will be a MONSTER.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

D Line could be best returning unit

I agree with Snostrebla on this one. The problem with our D linemen had to do more with their youthfull inexperience. They got pushed around early on and made decent strides as the horrendous season wore on. What they need is great teaching of the position(s). Got to have a quick first step on the D Line in order to get penetration leverage on upper classmen O linemen. What I saw most notably on our defensive front was the fact that we got locked into blocks and couldn’t escape them. It completely killed us there because the opposing O linemen could scrape off and get to our 2nd level LBers. It was brutal!

These kids look slow and actually are slow. But with the right teaching of the position(s) we’ll develope a quicker first step, where we can achieve penetration leverage, and apply block escape techinique, i.e. swim, bull rush, punch or what have you. All those techiniques were useless because we didn’t have the penetration leverage as the ball was snapped. It’s all related and if you don’t get the quick step, then you can’t get penetration leverage, thus your technique is ineffective.

I am confident that our young DTs and DEs will remain at those positions, their is talent there just raw and inexperienced. Coach will ensure they are taught the basic principles of those positions. And to be quite honest with you, I think our best returning unit could be the D line. Like Lear Pilot says development is the key.

by crazidawg on Jan 3, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensive backs

I think you are being a little too hard on Richardson. For a kid playing corner for the first time on an absolutely terrible team with absolutely terrible coaching, I thought he showed some glimpses of ability. Remember, he’s very young — he shouldn’t have been on the field last year. It’s nice to have a little size out there, and he brings that.

Did you forget about McDowell? A very capable athlete, who was victimized by that same coaching we were talking about above and never recovered. With a little ego-rehab and some weight lifting, he could be a player, too.

crazidog, good grief! Any other qualifications you’d like to add to the list for fullback? Running, catching, blocking, tackling in case of turnovers, quick-kicking, coaching defensive backs, aerobics, calculus, Swedish massage, construction management, public speaking, hot dog eating…

The whole team — to a man — has the potential to rise up two notches if the new coaches can a) get them to lift weights and run in the offseason, and b) quit screwing with their heads. Three notches if they can actually teach them to play their positions. That’s without changing a single player.

by djohnson on Jan 3, 2009 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

Great Post

djohnson that was good! My point was that coach Sark’s fullback is going to be as unique as USC FB position. The position is going to require him to be a receiving threat. Ours has been used more involving the QB’s personal protector, lead block, and in short yardage. Coach is going to transform this position into a lethal position involving the passing game.

by crazidawg on Jan 3, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess you are right

Quinton was constantly on the field with the complete lack of offense, especially toward the end of the season. it was his first year playing and he jumped strait into the starting corner role.

by AllEyezOnMe on Jan 3, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

DJ

The whole team — to a man — has the potential to rise up two notches if the new coaches can a) get them to lift weights and run in the offseason, and b) quit screwing with their heads. Three notches if they can actually teach them to play their positions. That’s without changing a single player.

I think that is the biggest key for this team in 2009. They need to take three steps ahead together. I think Harbaugh was able to do that at Stanford even though they finished a win shy of a qualifying for a bowl game.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2009 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

Position changes

I’m not into wholesale position changes. I think they’re probably needs to be a few but it just seems like that hasn’t worked very well in the past. These kids need to play a position long enough to learn it and develop with the experience they get. If you have a need then I would consider it especially if you have a kid who is talented but the position he is at is loaded and he’s just riding the pine.

by dawgfan22 on Jan 3, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Usually I'd agree Dawgfan...

but Ty did a poor job of getting guys in the best position to succeed. As said above Don James was outstanding at this and so is Pete Carrol. Hopefully Sark is very good at it as well because it could really speed up the time it will take to get this program back to being competative. I think we’ll see quit a few changes this year to get kids in the right spots and then fewer and fewer in the following years. Moves like Logan to Safety are a no brainer and should have been done last year.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree...

but you still need to give kids a chance to learn and grow into a position. I agree though that it makes no sense to be so stacked at one position and be paper thin at others.

by dawgfan22 on Jan 3, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering the number of returning scholarship receivers going into the season...

(I counted two: D’Andre Goodwin and Alvin Logan)

I don’t think it was a “no brainer” to move one of them to defense.

It might make sense now, though, assuming Sark will use less four- and five-wide sets than Lappano did. Goodwin, Aguilar, Kearse, Bruns, Anthony Boyles, probably Chris Polk in the slot… assuming reasonable help in the WR corps, they could afford to move Alvin Logan if they think he’s a much better fit on D.

He and Vince Taylor are the only two “big” receivers on the roster, and maybe Coach Sarkisian loves big receivers. I don’t know; hard to guess since at USC everybody is two sizes bigger and two steps faster.

by busplunger on Jan 3, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

True..

but once it was appearant that Logan wasn’t going to be a factor at WR he should have been moved. Logan, to me, blocks well but looks uncomfortable while trying to catch the ball. He looked VERY comfortable running down DB’s when they intercepted the ball. These guys should be or should have been tried on both O & D while working on the scout teams. This is when a coaching staff has a great oportunity to look at a guy on both sides of the ball and in different positions to see where their natural skills fit best.

by Snostrebla on Jan 3, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Change....

Guys/Gals…don’t you think we want to change things, personel etc because we were O-12 last season? I mean duh? that makes sense right? We just need to do it for the right reasons, not just because a guy is young and he’s still developing/learning/adjusting to the position. I trust Coach Sark and his staff to make those decisions but it does make for fun discussion huh?

by dawgfan22 on Jan 3, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

Sark's Offense

The most positive thing I can see with Sark’s offense is consistency. The last 4 years our offense changed everytime the wind blew a different direction. We never mastered anything and were mediocre at most. The only success was when we had a running QB that offered a dual threat. It will be a breath of fresh air to see Sark’s offense. Plus the mere fact that we now have a decent offensive line coach that can teach the O-line brings a lot of hope.

by Lotar on Jan 3, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

Discussion

It is fun for discussion and obviously all the changes I listed won’t be made…some may never be considered…and a few we never thought of may be the ones they go with.

The fun thing about bringing in a talented coach like Sark is that they are going to look at everything in detail then start over with the rebuilding process. They won’t be perfect but you will see a lot more effort put forth than we have seen in the last six years.

by John Berkowitz on Jan 3, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

Fogerson and our DBs

because he was so many times caught out of position it was hard to tell if Johri was a good athlete. he looked tentative and lost and while there is a chance for improvement, i would cringe if i saw him lining up at safety again in 2009. i’ll take everyone’s word for it that he is a good athlete. perhaps he is better suited for offense… give him a try at TB… or maybe he can be a big, athletic FB in the Matt Jones mold.

unless the youngsters (Glenn, Gobern, and Long) really step up in a Mel Miller-Jermaine Smith kind of way we will struggle at the corner. Q may improve, but corner is not his best position. McDowell needs to put a tough frosh year behind him (wasn’t that 2 seasons ago?) and make a run at a starting job. this group is young… and those with experience in 2008 were really shaky.

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