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0-4 start dooms Willingham

Washington did the unthinkable last night and that was losing to Stanford at home to go 0-4 to open the season. It is the first Ty Willingham team to start a season 0-4 which is fitting since this most likely will be the last Ty Willingham coached BCS team.

Stanford beat Washington with a balanced attack that produced 244 yards on the ground and 222 yards through the air. The Washington defense acted like a sieve tonight after knocking Toby Gerhart out of the game in the first quarter. Tony Kimble came in and rushed for 157 yards that featured an 83 yard TD run which took the wind out of the Huskies sail.

Tavita Pritchard was 16-24 for the night as UW made another average QB look like a Heisman trophy candidate. The UW defense still has not picked up a sack after four games and it make us all long for the days of Ken Baer. The UW defense which was simply terrible in 2007 has moved to totally atrocious in 2008.

Jake Locker left in the middle of the second quarter after breaking his thumb. The injury could sideline him a minimum if six weeks if it is a clean break. If there are fragments he could be done for the season.

Ronnie Fouch came in and did a credible job in his first real action as QB, but even though he has better touch passing the ball than Jake he certainly doesn't have the wheels.

UW looked pretty good early when David Freeman was running the ball but as usual Tim Lappano abandoned the run to execute a spread offense that has little chance of working. The last UW victory was an upset of California when UW ran from the" I" formation. For some reason UW keeps putting the square peg in the round hole when it comes to offensive play calling.

The loss officially puts the final nail in Willingham's coffin, but don't expect UW to fire him till the WSU game unless there is a player revolt. As far as player revolts go it was disconcerting for most UW fans to see Jake Locker yucking it up on the side lines with a big wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth. You have to wonder where his head is at. Is the losing so ingrained that he has stopped caring? He reminded me of Charles Frederick during his final season. Your losing to Stanford, your head coach is going to lose his job, and you are laughing spitting tobacco juice on the sidelines?

Juan Garcia laid it all out on KJR earlier this week:

"We lose to a team like Stanford, there are no excuses,'' said Garcia, having just answered a question about the tough schedule UW played in the first three games. "Either we suck or we don't.''

Sorry Juan, your team sucks, and your coach is going to be fired.

 

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I agree that Ty is gone

… but this argument you keep making about running out of the “I” and citing the Cal game last year makes no sense. Freeman got huge yards out of the spread in the first half, then he hurts his ankle, then the Huskies are down by 14 with a less than physically fit Brandon Johnson and a not at all ready Willie Griffin.

If you insist on using that Cal game as an example, then you need to answer a few more questions from last year, such as how did we enable our first 1000 yard TB since Sheehee? How did we rack up the highest rushing yard total from a QB in Pac10 history?

Offensive scheme is not the issue. In fact, I don’t think offense is the issue at all. Our defense lacks anything resembling talent (outside of Q and Foster) and is getting absolutely gashed. Stanford racked up 466 yards at Husky stadium. There is your square peg.

Shake that hand that shook the hand of Hustlin' Hugh

by Minny C on Sep 27, 2008 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

tobacco juice

… by the way – totally agree with you there. That was not the image he needed to be portraying to the legions of husky fans who seem to be taking this situation more seriously.

Shake that hand that shook the hand of Hustlin' Hugh

by Minny C on Sep 27, 2008 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Minny

All we had to do was run the ball all night to win the game. Maybe it doesn’t matter if it is spread or “I”, but it was a poorly called game. Run the frigging ball until they prove they can stop it. By the way that is how Stanford won the game.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 27, 2008 11:34 PM PDT reply actions  

That was a fun ride home...

I’m not even going to talk about the whole Ty Willingham job situation, I just want to talk about the clock management. With around 5:20 left to go in the game Stanford goes out of bounds on 2nd down. The clock in college will start running when the referee signals ready, unless there is less than 2 minutes left in the 2nd or 4th quarters. We call a timeout… why? At that point in the game it will save around 30-35 seconds because it will take a little bit of time for the ball to be spotted. After the next play we call a timeout again and have just one left with around 5 minutes to go, this time we at least saved about 40 seconds since the ball was downed in the field of play. At this point you are forcing your offense to score within 3 minutes without using a timeout or you are guaranteed to require an onside kick to have any chance at winning. This isn’t even giving your team a reasonable chance to win, the odds of recovering onsides kicks in college are low and the odds of us scoring in a minute are terrible with the way we manage the clock. Two timeouts were completely wasted at a time when they never should have been used and the 3rd was wasted because we tried to run up the middle like idiots and got stopped (twice!).

by JoeinFW on Sep 27, 2008 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Time management?

It doesn’t exist at UW. Ty threw in the towel in the third quarter.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 27, 2008 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Defense is the problem

I went into the game thinking we were going to get our first win of the season. After watching the defense tonight, I’m not sure we will win until we get to WSU. Unless a team turns the ball over against us, I don’t see our defense stopping anyone. There were only a handful of drives that Stanford had 3rd and long all night. Until the defense can show that we can stop someone, I don’t see how we have a chance to win. I thought Fouch did a nice job tonight, but without getting any stops from the defense it doesn’t matter. I have given Willingam the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years, but I don’t see how he is going to be able to turn this around. I don’t know if it is entirely his fault, but at this time, we need a change of pace. I’d like to throw my support for Kiffen. Tonight was an extremely frustrating game to watch. It is probably the cause of the 6 or 7 bourbons being consumed tonight.

by Barry Duffman on Sep 27, 2008 11:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Barry

Turnovers and arm tackles don’t go together.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 27, 2008 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

even with a miraculous win tonight I'd have wanted Ty gone

judging the quality of play, the Huskies are nowhere near where they need to be. The defense has barely improved from last year’s record performance, and on the other side the plan is still praying Jake Locker is healthy enough to do everything on offense.

To be successful you first need to stop being mediocre, but Ty hasn’t even started being mediocre. They’ve just been miserable.

by Will Kier on Sep 28, 2008 12:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh I completely agree the time management doesn’t exist, but the decisions are such no brainers it has me ripping my hat apart in the stands. The team is playing with no emotion right now and this is going to be a long and depressing year. That sideline was dead, they just said on the honks show that Darin Harris was trying to pump up the team during the game and they just ignored him. I don’t think a change during the season will help much but something needs to happen to help the recruiting because this year will be a disaster on every level if the recruiting struggles. Kudos to all the other fans at the game tonight that place was pretty loud the first half but in the second half it died instantly.

by JoeinFW on Sep 28, 2008 12:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I think most of us were educated by Don James, He always had every single scenario fugured out a year in advance. These clowns don’t know what they are going to do five minutes in advance.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2008 12:23 AM PDT reply actions  

A long erosion

I graduated in ‘91, so I have seen the UW at the top. What I am seeing right now is very disappointing. At this point, I don’t see how Willingham can be the coach in the future. I don’t know that a change right now is possible, but something has to happen. If Willingham were fired tomorrow, I wouldn’t be disappointed. I don’t blame him necessarily because of the situation he was put in, but it is obvious at this point that he is not the guy to get the job done. He has given us a pretty decent base to go forward to the future, but I do not trust that he is the guy to get us to the top of the Pac-10. It’s not as if he hasn’t been compensated for what he has or hasn’t done. I just hope the next coach (Pinkel) can understand that special teams are as important as the rest of the team.

by Barry Duffman on Sep 28, 2008 12:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Locker

In reading your post again, I have to take exception to your take on Locker. I thought the same thing about the tobacco, but after looking at the shot I couldn’t be sure if he had a plug in his cheek or not. Every additional shot didn’t confirm the tobacco thing, so I forgot about it until you brought it up. When I saw him on the sideline with a smile on his face, I didn’t think he was giving up, but thought he was trying to be positive to his teammates. I may be naiive about all of this, but I was more concerned about the defense instead of what Locker was doing on the sidelines. I also thought he may have had some pain medication, which may explain his giddiness.

by Barry Duffman on Sep 28, 2008 1:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Misdirected Frustration

You guys are all over the place in your criticisms. Clock management was not an issue. You’ve got to be kidding me. They were on-siding no matter what after that last drive. And, the harping on the “rushing” attack – they ran for a pretty good 140 yds in the game and put up almost 400 yds overall. The offense was not the problem. The D is where the responsibility lies and we’ve had enough games under our belt to question the defensive coaching and our new D coordinator. I know his Don James bloodlines make him “untouchable” in the eyes of many of you but, c’mon, how many more weeks are we going to talk about these guys not tackling? At what point do the results of coaching begin to show up. We surrendered nearly 500 yds to Stanford. That’s the story. Plain and simple.

Shake that hand that shook the hand of Hustlin' Hugh

by Minny C on Sep 28, 2008 6:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Not Ty's Fault

Ty had winning records at both of the major schools before the UW – maybe he was stuck in a monumental hole that even the best coaches couldn’t dig outta of. I am beginning to think that no coach can save us. We claim that were a major football school and I am starting to question that theory.

by blackdawg80 on Sep 28, 2008 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Here's the real question

At the end of this season, we will look back and ask ourselves, “Is this team any better off then it was four years ago?” If you’re answer is Yes, you’ll have to explain how — and there are plausible ways. If it’s No… wow.

I’m getting out of the “Is this the worst Husky football moment ever?” business. Is this worse than Oregon this year? Worse than Stanford two years ago? Worse than 1-10? Followed by 2-9? I really don’t know. We’ve endured a long string of insults, of which this is simply one more example. I’m starting to get used to it. In fact, I’m finding myself almost in Cougar mode. I have a morbid curiosity: How bad can things actually get? Will we lose every game? Will we set another school record for defensive ineptitude? Will we give up 70 points to somebody? Will we extend Willingham’s contract? Just exactly how bad can it get before it starts to get better? Can we please have just an average team for a year? No? Okay, how about merely competitive? No? Huh. All right.

Yesterday was pathetic. It was disrespectful of Husky fans, who paid hard-earned money and dedicated hours of their lives to come watch and cheer for this team. I wish I’d just watched Georgia-Alabama instead; the Husky game was a waste of time. At least the clock rules shortened it a bit.

by djohnson on Sep 28, 2008 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd say this team is better...

Only because I think there is WAY more raw talent here now then when Ty took over. That being said, this coaching staff has proved time and again that it is incapable of improving players. This staff along with Trent Greener need to go. If the UW was smart they will pay top dollar for a good coach and top dollar for a great streingth & conditioning coach. Trent simply isn’t geating the most out of these guys. I would sugjest they contact Scott Abel who is a genious when it comes to training and he lives in Vancouver B.C. Scott is the best trainer in Canada and has trained hundreds of top athelets into outstanding shape. I would send a blank check to Chris Petersen & Scott Abel.

by Snostrebla on Sep 28, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed there is more raw talent now...

but the record is starting to look like it may match the great Gilby campaign of 2004. I agree that this years class of freshmen appears to have a great deal of talent. The problem is that Ty Willie doesn’t seem to have the ability to mold players and maximize their potential. Time for a change and a “for sale” sign in front of Ty’s house.

by wenatcheedawg on Sep 28, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

agree on raw talent as well..

but they shouldn’t come across as raw as I read about. Our assistants have pretty good resumes. Are the basics being bypassed to teach concepts too advanced?

The worst thing about this season is having to rely on “raw” recruits. I had brief hopes when I heard of so many freshmen starting that they were actually that good, but I’ve quickly come back to earth.

Oh, and I was also spitting tobacco juice at around the same time Jake was alleged to do so. I wasn’t smiling though.

by hairofthedawg on Sep 28, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bottomline

Blackdawg80 – It is Ty’s fault. Four years out of the gate and the team is getting worse. I have nothing against Tyrone. I wished it had worked out differently for him here.

The team simply isn’t getting any better. It isn’t playing with emotion. They just gave up nearly 500 yards to Stanford.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

who cares?

Arguing about whether or not this is Ty’s fault is irrelevant. His regime is over. The truth is that he did the honorable thing by letting the players he inherited play out their scholarships. In doing so, he allowed us to get into this roster imbalance situation that he knew years ago was going to be a problem. Ironically, many of you have ripped him for allowing some of the “no talent, no fit” guys to graduate from scholarship a year before their eligibility ran out. In reality, he should have cleared out more deadwood faster. This would have freed scholarships earlier – especially in that class of 2006 when we only signed 20 and then saw Ashlee Palmer, Merrill, Atkins, Myers and Jefferson all wash out. Maybe five more recruits could have given a little more beef to a class in which Goodwin, Homer, Habben, Tolar, Reese and Bulter all played. In doing the right thing, he screwed himself and his team.

The Huskies will move on, but the hate-fest has to stop. Do you think that there are any scenarios where Ty leaves before the season is out. First of all, this is a principled man who will not walk out on this young team. He won’t volunteer to leave before the season is over. And the administration, why sack him now? There is no reason given the fact that all of your coaching targets are currently employed. Who would take over the team? How would that impact recruiting?

So, just sit back Husky fans, and relax. This season has already bottomed out. There is no bowl game. Let’s enjoy watching some of these young pups develop and start dreaming about when the turnaround will finally occur. There are eight more to go.

Shake that hand that shook the hand of Hustlin' Hugh

by Minny C on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

A little Naive

I think you are being quite naive about Ty’s sense of honor.

You seem to be buying the Todd Turner press release about Ty rather than the actual reality of who the man is.

If you were actually closer to program you would realize it is all a myth.

Nobody hates Tyrone, or at least I don’t.

I just don’t think he should continue as head coach.

by John Berkowitz on Sep 28, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

And wrong on the facts, too

If the problem were really “dead wood” left over from Neuheisel and Gilbertson, wouldn’t Willingham at least have filled his scholarship limits? He’s hasn’t. Not once. I’m not saying the team was stocked with talent (it wasn’t), but the inability to cull the herd was not the cause.

For what it’s worth, I believe Willingham’s recruiting has been decent. As we were warned by Notre Dame fans when he came here, it’s on Saturday when Willingham falls short.

by djohnson on Sep 28, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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