Huskies dump Cisneros
by John Berkowitz on Dec 24, 2008 1:29 PM PST
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PrintOL Grant Cisneros from Sumner didn't get the Christmas present he wanted after the new coaching staff at Washington decided to dump him. Cisneros committed to departed coach Chris Tormey so the new staff has decided not honor any of the commitments made after Willingham was fired. It kind of makes sense to start the evaluations over since it wasn't exactly like Willingham was on the top of his game on the way out the door.
There is still chance the Huskies could offer Cisneros after the new staff reviews his film so stay tuned on this one.
AD Scott Woodward had previously said that all commitments would be offered but that isn't likely to happen if the new staff decides they don't want somebody. This is the tough part of the business but necessary if you are trying to rebuild a struggling football program.
Woodward responded with the usual double talk to Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times. A top Husky booster recently told me that every time Woodward opens his mouth he lies. I wouldn't go that far but he seems to be able to back peddle his way out of about anything which you would expect from a guy who is a former political consultant. I like Woodward so far and it isn't exactly like he has an easy job.
I think a lot of people are going to absolutely stunned by Woodwards next public announcement. I can't spill the beans on it but the Husky faithful are going to be just blown away by it. The announcement should cement in the mind of any doubters out there that Scott Woodward and Mark Emmert know what they are doing and have their priorities in the right place.
The bottom line on all this is Washington is now in on some recruits they may like a lot better than the group that Willingham assembled on his way out. I have heard rumors of some big names from California and Hawaii who are now looking at UW. If Sarkisian is able to pick up a couple of these guys it could salvage the recruiting class.
Willingham was never able to recover form his first terrible year of recruiting and Sarkisian isn't about to make that fatal mistake.
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Woodward's announcement
Sheesh! Now I’ve got to know what it is! Is it coming in the near future?
by doubledeucedawg on Dec 24, 2008 1:44 PM PST reply actions
Really???
I don’t think you know anything about any announcement.
Probably just some ridiculous rumor.
by pac10footballguy on Dec 24, 2008 2:16 PM PST reply actions
Berk knows what he talks about
Please never accuse JB of not being truthful. We might not always see eye to eye, but never call someone a liar.
This news has also been in the paper, Berk does a good job of keeping us informed on the goings on at the U. I do not know if they will revoke any offers yet, but they are re-evaluating them to ensure they are bringing in the right guys. I think this is smart, make sure the correct players are coming here. We need players, tough guys, fighters, guys that will do whatever it takes to win.
Thanks for the info JB….I appreciate the work you put in here.
Go blow.
JB and I are not always chummy on the boards … but he’s never been one to lie. Pound sand jackass.
"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.
Teaser
Have a good christmas and I hope the dawg is going on lots of walks in the Chicago snow. Nice teaser rumor. In the media it is called hang on to your seat and keep tuned in. A ratings ploy that is a good thing. I heard the rumor too.
Lol…you should have your loke my best friend.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 24, 2008 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Rennovation OR Top Recruiting Class?
It is either the rennovation package of Husky Stadium is a done deal and an announcement of ground breaking will be announced (hopefully) or that coach Sark landed a top 10 recruiting class in his first season.
With the U not honoring Ty’s recruits, I’d have to say that it is probably the recruiting class announcement.
But the Stadium Rennovation Project needs to be the Athletic Dept. No.1 priority!
It’s likely something to do with the stadium renovation – the Dawgman guys have been dropping hints that things are a lot further along with that than has been thus far publicly revealed.
Interesting...
…I guess we’ll all have to stay tuned.
by doubledeucedawg on Dec 24, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
rumor;
I,m guessing they are adding some kind or program that makes it easier for J.V. players to get in. P.E. or something.
Shot in the dark
Gates senior once got an $85 million donation for scholarship endowments to his beloved UW law school — a nice present from his famous son on his 85th birthday wouldn’t you say?.
I believe that Bill Gates Senior might also be a Huskies fan… Hum, one can only dream. A new stadium would be nice but, in this economic environment, a far better dream would be to avoid a 20% cut in funding on the academic side.
Gates Senior is a big Husky fan as is the daughter, both on the BOR
I’m going with the stadium as the big announcement. Somebody buying naming rights or some such is OK with me as long as Husky Stadium is still in the name. Gates field at Husky stadium would be OK.
Merry Christmas to you and Kate John. Maybe we’ll see each other in Tempe Oct 15 or Husky stadium if you get out for a game earlier than that.
Merry Christmas to all the rest of my Husky brothers on this forum as well.
Jack
That was my initial thought as well...
not necessarily on Gates’ part, but something on the stadium in general.
Likewise on the Christmas wishes to all of you as well.
by hairofthedawg on Dec 24, 2008 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Its Christmas
… as such, I’m guessing Woodward will be announcing:
- the end of the Football Monopoly in L.A.
- the recruitment of Santa’s grandson, Buster, as our next great OT
- World Peace.
Happy Holidays, Dawgfans.
"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.
John B and df22…I know what your talkin about spilling the beans. I have been pretty silent after the week since Sark has been hired. df 22 knows I was very vocal in other blogs about the hiring of the next head coach. I wasn’t looking for my opinion??? But the best head coach available. Emmert has ace in the hole. Take it what it for worth.
by bigdawgdaddy999 on Dec 25, 2008 2:20 AM PST reply actions
Announcement
Any idea when we might find out?
by doubledeucedawg on Dec 26, 2008 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
So does he know that their will be a big announcement or is it a hunch?
Please tell us what it will be.
Merry Christmas
Well
I have heard it from too many good sources for it to be a hunch.
I think most of you will be pretty excited and surprised. I certainly was.
As far as the timing goes it should be between now and the first of the year.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 26, 2008 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
wow
You really have me excited about this one… i hope its about the stadium.
Timing
I think you guys are on the right track as far as your guesses go.
Not sure exactly about the timing of the announcement but it will be after the first of the year.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 30, 2008 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
I think (and I could be wrong)
that they are letting Cis(???)o know that his scholarship is gone but it may be given back after they evaluate film….i dont think it was a “no you cant play here!!!!”
also, i was a little shocked that they would pull the only O-Linemen scholarship during a year they need O-Linemen…Maybe there is are a couple ace’s up the sleeve (Stan Hasik alone would not be enough). Who knows…I hate the dead period. I feel like a bad Verizon commerical….“It’s a Dead Zone…”
Dead Period is a Joke!
I think what we are seeing from coach Sark not honoring the scholarships is that he is evaluating the kids Ty was bringing in. If Sark says no to a kid that was offered a scholarship it is probably related to two factors:
1) Recruit doesn’t fit in with Sark’s plans
2) Has some pontentially great recruits lined up ready to sign on signing day
I think this dead period is a joke! Why is it that there are so many rules and regulations involving football and football players, when a basketball player can play year round? AAU I get it, yet it seems though the sport of basketball and the recruitment of basketball players and the exposure is so much more then when it comes to football. Scrap the dead period!
Last thing a kid needs
is 100 coaches calling him on Christmas and New Years…let these kids have sometime during the holidays to be with family. For a fan though, its as boring as it gets.
Why get upset at the UW?
This post is not intended for you John but to those who want to blast the UW for this decision.
I don’t understand the need to blast the UW for pulling a recruits offer under these circumstances. I agree this is news worthy but this isn’t abnormal! To be fair it should also be reported and understood that recruits renege on their commitments also, for their own personal reasons. Coleman changed his mind, others are reconsidering also. To blast the UW for reconsidering their offer is a biased view. It is something that happens from time to time with all universities during recruiting for various reasons. To treat the UW as though they alone lack integrity because they reconsider an offer is not a knowledgeable reaction. It is also a recruits responsibility to keep involved in the recruiting process until his name is on the dotted line. Especially in a situation where there is a coaching change! His coach or parents or whoever should give him the help and guidence he needs. At least the UW coaches comunicated with him the situation so he was prepared. They showed the proper concern by letting him know what was happening on their end. I will say Woodward could have told the recruits something like this was possible and may have, but anyone involved in recruiting knows this! It’s absolutely normal in these curcumstances.
If I am wrong John please tell me….
Upset?
I’m not upset just amused that Woodward would issue a statement that all commits would be honored when that isn’t the case.
I don’t think it is abnormal at all but I think Woodward would have been better served by saying nothing. Thats the real story. If you have been following recruiting and college football as long as I have you just roll your eyes when an AD makes a statement like that because even the molde rof men Tyrone Willingham didn’t honor all the previous commitments.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 26, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
These kids will be just fine elsewhere
Let me start out by saying this. Regardless of win/loss record- any kid being heavily recruited by the Pac 10 will land a good football scholarship elsewhere. It may be Idaho, Montana, or at Weber State but make no mistake these kids aren’t loosing out on anything. They are still going to get a college education for playing football.
Now back the the dead period debate…
Okay I agree bigdave about kids needing time with family during the holidays. But the basketball player can showcase his talent, and entertain recruiters 24/7 365 days a year. Why in the hell doesn’t the NCAA have rules and regulations pertaining to coaches contacting basketball recruits as serious as football coaches and football recruits? That is my arguement pertaining to the dead period. Feed back?
I guess it would have a lot to do with the fact
that basketball is played during this period…there isnt necessarily a “dead” period for basketball. Its played year round. Football, in most states, will begin in August and end in December (for teams playing in state titles) but then its over until next August. Only a couple of states have spring ball. This time after the season should be used for these kids to recoup and recover from a long season, be with their families, and get to pick a school. I do not know for sure but I would assume this to be true…basketball is a year round sport so coaches can watch and recruit year round…any other insight would be helpful but either way, i can understand why its there. Again, these kids need time to be with their families during the holidays…instead of it being wrong for tootball maybe other sports adopt a dead period too.
I agree
It isn’t like they are going to lose a free ride to somewhere.
Four years in Missoula isn’t a bad deal.
by John Berkowitz on Dec 27, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
.... or ... come to the UW, pay your own way (like thousands of others every year) and walk on.
A UW education and four years playing with what is still one of most proud programs in the nation is still a great deal.
"Greed is Good."
So is Rudy.
not realistic for most kids...
a lot of kids like knowing that they are getting a Scholarship…its like an award. Plus not everyone can afford college these days and having student loans is not fun at all. As for my experience, after college its not so much where you went but who you know and how well can you interview. At the end of the day a free education is a HUGE and thats what these kids want.
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