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Backtalk with Johnny B and Nathan Ware

Nathan and I are at it again in his Seattle PI Dawg Blawg. the fast breaking news this morning regarding Jim Mora had us on our toes but we were able to get everything updated and on line this afternoon.

Nathan: How hard would it be for a coach like Kelly, Patterson, or Graham – who don't have West Coast recruiting ties – to get up to speed in the recruiting game?

John: Obviously, hiring someone from the West coast who already has a network in place would be more ideal. It all depends on who they hire as assistant coaches. Don James was from Ohio and it didn't seem to slow him down. DJ had a top notch first class headlined by Michael Jackson from Pasco. They could retain someone like Chris Tormey who is the current recruiting coordinator to help with the transition. Remember, all the current assistant coaches are under contract until at least June 1st of next year.

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like the three names you mentioned are known names even though they haven’t been on the west coast. Any kid thinking of UW will be looking into what ever coach that’s hired. Keeping Tormey and JD would be a help in recruiting for the new guy also.
If the new guy comes in and gets after it like DJ did I think we’ll be OK.

by T9ODawg on Oct 31, 2008 11:06 PM PDT reply actions  

How will I remember Ty?

A hard luck coach. Part of it was his own making. Part was his persona.

With a bit, maybe a lot, more work, I think he could have succeeded here. I feel he was enabled in part by Turner into thinking he didn’t have to answer to the fans. I really don’t understand why he fell for that because it sounds similar to what got him dismissed from ND. I know he has brains, but how does he not learn from that mistake?

When you get right down to it, I really don’t think he had a plan. He was offered a plum of a job and just decided to wing it. Look at the I-formation OL and the spread offense. It doesn’t work. He didn’t have a vision. As a vision, the spread isn’t my choice, but had he recruited to make it work, we Husky fans would be a lot happier right now. It can work, just not with our current players.

Some have said he needed more time. That’s true. My patience was/is gone.

I like Nathan’s list. With the right personality, and I view Ty’s as a bit condescending, I think a new coach who is energetic and positive can make quick inroads in recruiting on the west coast. Get the Husky Hunters going again and establish some sort of contact and he’ll do alright. It will take some effort and that’s one of the most important qualities the new coach needs to have…the willingness to expend that effort.

It’s a sad program at the moment, but even the young kids have an idea of what the Huskies once were. I don’t like salesmen types in general, but the new coach needs to have some of that personality in him. He’s got a big sell job to do.

I realize they’re intertwined, but how do you rate salesmanship vs. X’s and O’s?

by hairofthedawg on Nov 1, 2008 2:01 AM PDT reply actions  

X&O’s is WAY more important. Winning covers alot of flaws while losing exposes them. If Don James didn’t win we’d remember him as a surley guy who wouldn’t come down out of his tower during practices to coach up his players. But he won so we call him a legend. Bottom line is this: (Colin Cowherd said this the other day and I couldn’t agree more.) To compete on a national level with talent less than a USC, Florida, Oklahoma, ect. You have to have a coach with a system that works really well (especially on offense against a top notch Defense like USC). You see this at Oregon, Oregon State, Boise State, ect. This is why I think BY FAR Chris Petersen should be our #1 choice – even over Jim Mora. He has far less talent then Oklahoma & Oregon yet beat them both because his system works. Imagine what he could do with 4&5 star talent.

by Snostrebla on Nov 1, 2008 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Peterson

I read part of an interview someone did with Peterson. He said he recruits players that want to work their tails off to beat the big guys. I can live with that because he can get a higher rated player to come to UW, work their tails off to be competitive with $C and beat the crap out of Oregon, WSU, OSU

Jack

by T9ODawg on Nov 1, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Petersen

I think he is a good coach. He hasn’t built a program though, and he is pretty secretive. I think we need a promoter and any coach that is hired needs to realize that will be a big part of the job.

by John Berkowitz on Nov 1, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Remembering Ty

both of you said that, among other things, Ty is a decent man. While I agree, if that’s the best thing you can say about a head coach, then you know that he fell way short of expectations. i expect anybody associated with Husky football to be a decent person. when a person associated with Husky football lacks common decency, then i am deeply disappointed.

when i remember Ty i will think of the F word: failure. he was a failure as a head coach for UW.

by oahu dawg on Nov 2, 2008 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

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